Family Forum / Parenting / Adoption / September 2004

Like you Lu?  lmao!

I never said that...re-read it, Mary.  Here is it is, in its entirety.  You
REALLY need to RUN, not WALK to Lenscrafters
immediately!________________________________

OK, Mary, I am sorry that your grandson is having a heart problem, same as your
daughter, however this is WHY I do not understand why people go ahead and have
babies when they are fully aware that the family gene pool is clogged with
"sh.t" that their children can inherit.  As far as your daughter, perhaps her
drug use excelerated the problems in her heart.  I am sorry, but that is the
way I feel.  Oh, but I FORGOT....didn't you have CARLA do a drug intervention
with your daughter.....while Carla was sucking back on a glass of wine????????
sh.t!!!

As for Terry, if she has been in the hospital for two days, why are you blind
cc'ing this to her?  So that you can rock her world and upset her even MORE SO
than she already is???  Yep, that's the way you do it, huh???

Second:  You told me many months ago that Carla was sick and a complete LIAR
and she was no longer EVER going to be welcome on your list ever again, same
with Bernice.  I knew you were LYING, as you have done to me several times in
the past but this just goes to show I was right to "pull away" from you because
you are NOTHING BUT A BIG FAT LIAR.  You've lied about everything, from
Bernice, Carla (who, btw does NOTHING for the adoption community but cause
problems- she knows absolutely NOTHING about search, in fact, as lied over the
phone, passing herself off as an attorney to many - totally illegal) and little
lies about your family, yourself...Mary, you've had more jobs than Carter's got
liver pills.  How can someone quit and start new jobs so much?  You've had at
LEAST 15 jobs since I met you...you're always quitting and starting a new one,
complaining about the last one you quit.

I'm a LOT of things Mary, but a LIAR, I am not.  I tried to be a friend to you
but you have done nothing but betray me and perhaps your current "problems" are
your Karma.  Certainly, Carla started that horrible rumor about Donna Marie
being a "transvestite" but you are the one who helped SPREAD THAT VERY
RUMOR!!!!!  You told me that "others knew of it too."  Well, how could that be,
Mary?  Nobody met Donna Marie except for Carla.  You helped spread all that
gossip surrounding Donna Marie to anybody who would listen so stop acting like
a f.cking saint and STOP lying.

Yes, my beloved Papa went to heaven yesterday afternoon at 3:45 as her body was
riddled with cancer.  I had to do this myself because Steve is not here.  Do
you know how difficult that was for me???  And yet I get emails from you and
your egghead friends like Carla at this time of grief and pain in my life????
F*CK YOU BOTH FOR THAT!  

I knew why all my phone calls to you in the past went unanswered - because you
knew you were caught in more lies again.  I have NO DESIRE to be a friend with
someone who lies and spreads gossip about SOMEBODY WHO HAS DONE THEM NO
WRONG!!!!!  You did that to Donna Marie, spreading horrible untruths about her
and I detest you for that, yet your goofy whacked-out friend Carla has made
more enemies in the adoption than anyone I knew and why you still maintain a
friendship with her (and lie about it at times) is beyond me.  How would YOU
feel if someone went around calling YOU a "man" because you have such a deep
voice on the telephone?  Many people have remarked "Mary sounds like a man on
the phone?"   Wouldn't that hurt YOUR feelings, yet you thought it was funny
and cute to lie and gossip about Donna Marie.....why, Mary?????   You've caught
Carla in SEVERAL lies...how has Donna Marie hurt YOU?   What lies have you
caught her in and what has she done to you??????  NOTHING - NADA - ZIP!!  She
has not bothered you, yet you thought it was funny and cute to pass it onto
others, including me that you thought she was a man!!!!! Why, it would not
surprise me if you still were friends with the REAL psychopath among us,
Bernice Carpenter, even though she has sh.t on your and Terry more times than I
or anyone can count.  Mary, perhaps YOU need to get your own head examined.
You can't even live without a MAN, as soon as you left Dave, you had "next
contestant" already lined up - no big surprise.  When I have a friend, I stay
true to them, I don't lie to them, and I don't gossip about their friends,
spreading total untruths.  Like I said, I think your Karma is just coming back
to you.  It is not a wonder that you are pissing and moaning about all your
family troubles now....BOO HOO!!!!!!!  You reap what you sow.

Oh, and I knew all along that the lie about your 'taking over a PI's business
in FL' was another one of your untruths.  Hell, you got your kids sponging off
of you, living with you, you can't leave them.  Your middle name, Dear is
"Codependent."  It's not a wonder none of them can grow up and stand on their
own two feet when "Mother Mary" the queen of new jobs, constantly enables them
all, even bailing them out of jail and making promises to judges when she knows
that they (J.W. in particular) cannot follow through on those promises.

Yep, I am hurt, pissed off and sorry to get such a bullshit email from you in
my time of grief.  As for Terry, I've said it before and I'll say it again:
She caused all her own health problems and YOU MARY, have said that yourself,
although I know you will lie about it just as you lie about almost everything
that comes out of your mouth.  You are more like Bernice than you think you
are.

Now, go back to your two-faced, lying-sack-of-sh.t world of Codependency and
new jobs and leave me the hell alone.  With friends like YOU, who needs
enemies.  I now put you in the same category as I do Carla and Bernice.

Luanne

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Mary, I didn't post a reply quick, had to think about what I really wanted to
say.
Well here it is.
First off all,  what I meant when I said
how one quickly forgets is when all that sh.t was happening with Bernice and
you
where in the background going along with everything that was happening bad to
Bernice, in fact you told me if she kept her sh.t up, you had a large file on
her and use it somehow and that, I dont know how you would use it?.
For the life of me?, I still dont understand
why you have played both sides, played Bernice and Luanne.

OF COURSE I wouldnt trust anyone who is like that. Mary you cannot say that you
havent played both sides.. YOU HAVE!

Mary, I may see things totally different then you and you may see it your way.
But also when I re-read what Luanne wrote to you, I think I seen in the
beginning of that email of how sorry she was for what your grandson was going
through.

Luanne was upset at you, I think or I see it because she feels you played her
and to our surprise you really did, when all that sh.t was happening to Bernice
you would say one thing and do another. You would post at alt under a different
name then be buddy buddies with Bernice.

I can say at least my friend Luanne is straight up and doesnt bullshit me.

You cannot say that you dont bullshit.
You do, you spew bullshit Mary!

Sure you have been in the adoption community for a long time and you have
helped people and I give you tons of credit,
that cannot be taken away from you.
Thanks for that!

But when it comes to a true friendship Mary, you play all sides. or I should
say you played both sides.

Then I read what Carla wrote to you here on alt, I was stunned..
It was okay when you were trashing, bashing Bernice.. That is what I meant of
how one quicly forgets Mary. That is what I meant that Self Rightous does not
become you.  And Mary it doesn't

Barb