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Mom mourns tiny baby kept in shoebox

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LilMtnCbn - 18 Aug 2004 17:21 GMT
http://www.post-trib.com/cgi-bin/pto-story/news/z1/08-18-04_z1_news_11.html

Mom mourns tiny baby kept in shoebox
Aug. 18, 2004

By Jonathan Lipman

Daily Southtown staff writer

An infant boy was found dead in a shoebox in the home of his 15-year-old mother
in Lansing, Ill., on Monday.

That girl wants you to know she didn’t kill the baby. She wants you to know
what really happened to her infant son.

How she hid her pregnancy from her family for seven months.

How she gave birth on her own, in a bathtub, at 4 in the morning last Friday.

How she slept next to the tiny body, born two months premature, for two days,
without telling a soul, even though she knew her child was dead.

About his name — Raphael Pierre.

She wants you to know she was trying to do what she thought right. But she made
mistakes.

“I would like people to know I loved him,” she said. “And I tried to do
the most responsible thing I could do.”

The Cook County Medical Examiner’s office lists the child’s first name as
“Baby Boy.” On Tuesday, the medical examiner ruled the infant died
naturally because it was born premature. Police are investigating, but already
have said they don’t believe a crime occurred.

The teenager, whose name is being withheld, nevertheless feels at fault. With
hair pulled back by a headband and a black Snoopy shirt on her small frame, she
looked at the ground and described what happened to “my baby.”

“He was born premature because I didn’t get any natal care,” she said.
“And because I was so young.”

The teen said she got pregnant Feb. 4, by a boy she knew from school whom she
had been dating for three months. She learned about the pregnancy in May and
knew it was a mistake.

“I regret making that mistake, but I understood my pregnancy,” she said,
her voice full of conviction. “I wasn’t going to have an abortion ... if I
couldn’t give him away, I would have just left (with the baby).”

The girl lives with her parents and brothers in a two-story home on a quiet
street in Lansing. Proud of her family, she was afraid of letting her parents
down.

“I would rather be a missing girl than have me living off my family like
that. Why should they provide for me and my mistake?” she said.

So she made a plan: She would conceal the pregnancy and would arrange for the
baby’s adoption on her own. She started calling adoption agencies and settled
on The Cradle, based in Evanston, in June. The agency agreed to work with her
without telling her parents.

“I wore big shirts,” she said proudly. “And it was a small pregnancy. The
day I tried on my graduation dress, that was the day I almost got caught.”

But her parents never figured it out. Last Thursday night, she was supposed to
meet a counselor from the adoption agency at a nearby restaurant.

But she began to feel cramps and couldn’t go.

“I didn’t know I was in labor, I just figured I was cramping up,” the
girl said.

Determined to keep the pregnancy secret, the girl crawled into the bathtub.

She had no medication, no medical help, and no idea what to do.

At about 4 a.m., she gave birth, all alone.

“It wasn’t bad. I figured it would be worse. I just kept that in mind.”

Right away, she knew the baby was in trouble. He came two months early, and the
girl could hear no heartbeat from her new son.

“He didn’t cry. He just shook a little,” she said.

Within 15 minutes, newly named Raphael Pierre was dead.

“I just sat there, I didn’t know what to do,” she said. “I didn’t
call police. I didn’t have a phone, and I still didn’t want to tell my
parents. ... After watching him die in my arms, I just couldn’t do that to
them.”

Instead, she took the body of the infant back to her room and curled up with
him in her bed.

She kept him there for three days.

“Even though he was dead, I still wanted to be with him,” she said, crying.
“Because he was so pretty.”

She spent as much time as she could with the little boy’s body, but still
tried to hide what happened from her parents. On Friday, the day she gave
birth, she spent the afternoon doing yard work. On Monday, she decided it was
time to tell the boy’s father. She placed the baby’s body in a shoebox and
went to meet him at school.

After he saw the child, the couple decided to call the adoption counselor.

The agency told them to call police, who came to the home, found the baby, and
told the girl’s parents what happened.

She still hasn’t talked to her parents directly about the pregnancy. She says
she can’t.

The girl’s parents declined to be interviewed.

The mother said this has happened too fast for her to explain clearly what she
feels.

“My daddy, he was worried about my health, and my mommy, she was just
confused,” the girl said. “She was so confused how I could go through labor
and then smile the next day.”

The girl was hospitalized briefly with an infection, but was told she’ll
recover. What she doesn’t know is how she’ll face her family again. She’s
still afraid of what they may think.

And she doesn’t know how to make it up to Raphael Pierre. She said she know
she owes him.

“I would rather be,” she said, speaking slowly and fighting back tears,
“in his situation.”

-------------------------
A good friend will come and bail you out of jail . . . but, a true friend will
be sitting next to you saying, "Damn . . . that was fun!"
-----Unknown
Marley Greiner - 18 Aug 2004 18:49 GMT
Jesus Mary Mother of God!  The Cradle was part of this secret pregnancy
scheme!  As far as I'[m concerned they're directly responsible for the death
of this baby and the nightmare this girl is going through.  Lainie, are you
out there?  If so, do you have any thoughts on this.  I know you're famliar
with them.  BTW, in IL private agencies handle SH cases, though they are not
drop-off points.  I just wonder what in the hell they told this poor girl.

Marley

http://www.post-trib.com/cgi-bin/pto-story/news/z1/08-18-04_z1_news_11.html

> Mom mourns tiny baby kept in shoebox
> Aug. 18, 2004
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>
> That girl wants you to know she didn't kill the baby. She wants you to
know
> what really happened to her infant son.
>
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> So she made a plan: She would conceal the pregnancy and would arrange for the
> baby's adoption on her own. She started calling adoption agencies and
settled
> on The Cradle, based in Evanston, in June. The agency agreed to work with her
> without telling her parents.
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>
> "Even though he was dead, I still wanted to be with him," she said,
crying.
> "Because he was so pretty."
>
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>
> She still hasn't talked to her parents directly about the pregnancy. She
says
> she can't.
>
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> "My daddy, he was worried about my health, and my mommy, she was just
> confused," the girl said. "She was so confused how I could go through
labor
> and then smile the next day."
>
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>
> And she doesn't know how to make it up to Raphael Pierre. She said she
know
> she owes him.
>
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> be sitting next to you saying, "Damn . . . that was fun!"
> -----Unknown
J. - 19 Aug 2004 00:25 GMT
>Jesus Mary Mother of God!  The Cradle was part of this secret pregnancy
>scheme!  As far as I'[m concerned they're directly responsible for the death
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>Marley

I can understand how they could decide not to contact the parents.  But how
could they fail to see that she got medical care?  

J.

>http://www.post-trib.com/cgi-bin/pto-story/news/z1/08-18-04_z1_news_11.html
>>
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>> be sitting next to you saying, "Damn . . . that was fun!"
>> -----Unknown

Reply to jmhjmd at aol.
Marley Greiner - 19 Aug 2004 00:44 GMT
> >Jesus Mary Mother of God!  The Cradle was part of this secret pregnancy
> >scheme!  As far as I'[m concerned they're directly responsible for the death
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>
> J.

I"m waiting for more details since I might have a way to get them, but the
whole thing reeks.  The reporter could be wrong, the girl could be lying, or
it could all be true.

Marley

>http://www.post-trib.com/cgi-bin/pto-story/news/z1/08-18-04_z1_news_11.html
> >>
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>
> Reply to jmhjmd at aol.
J. - 19 Aug 2004 00:59 GMT
>> >Jesus Mary Mother of God!  The Cradle was part of this secret pregnancy
>> >scheme!  As far as I'[m concerned they're directly responsible for the
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>whole thing reeks.  The reporter could be wrong, the girl could be lying, or
>it could all be true.

All possibilities.  I would expect a reporter to have confirmed Cradle's
involvement before publishing.

Let us know what you learn.

J.

Reply to jmhjmd at aol.
Marley Greiner - 19 Aug 2004 01:10 GMT
> >> >Jesus Mary Mother of God!  The Cradle was part of this secret pregnancy
> >> >scheme!  As far as I'[m concerned they're directly responsible for the
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>
> J.

I think the Cradle has refused to comment.  No doubt!  I've been waiting for
them to get theirs for a long time--even if they have supposedly clean up
their act.  The sins of the fathers and all that....The Trib and the
Sun-Times have nothing on the case.  The article came from the Sun's
Chicagoland newspapers.

Marley

> Reply to jmhjmd at aol.
Rhiannon - 19 Aug 2004 01:46 GMT
> Jesus Mary Mother of God!  The Cradle was part of this secret pregnancy
> scheme!  As far as I'[m concerned they're directly responsible for the death
> of this baby and the nightmare this girl is going through.  Lainie, are you
> out there?  If so, do you have any thoughts on this.  I know you're famliar
> with them.  BTW, in IL private agencies handle SH cases, though they are not
> drop-off points.  I just wonder what in the hell they told this poor girl.

So do I.
This is God-awfull.

Rh.

> Marley
>
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> > be sitting next to you saying, "Damn . . . that was fun!"
> > -----Unknown
Lainie Petersen - 19 Aug 2004 02:45 GMT
> Jesus Mary Mother of God!  The Cradle was part of this secret pregnancy
> scheme!  As far as I'[m concerned they're directly responsible for the death
> of this baby and the nightmare this girl is going through.  Lainie, are you
> out there?  If so, do you have any thoughts on this.  I know you're famliar
> with them.  BTW, in IL private agencies handle SH cases, though they are not
> drop-off points.  I just wonder what in the hell they told this poor girl.

Blows my mind to be sure.  The Cradle does honor the privacy of its
clients: If a woman or girl doesn't want to tell her parents, they
won't tell them either.  I can't argue with this policy, abortion
clinics in Illinois in do the same thing.

(The Cradle does emphasize pre-natal care, and works to make sure that
its clients get it. But they can't force someone to get pre-natal
care, sadly. )

From reading this article, it isn't at all clear to me how long the
girl had "settled on" The Cradle, or whether or not this meeting with
the counselor was her first. It also isn't clear what she told them
about pre-natal care. If she delayed meeting with a caseworker, she
was also delaying getting any sort of help with pre-natal care.  I
think that putting the blame on The Cradle, without more information,
is premature.

L.
Palms2pines - 19 Aug 2004 06:01 GMT
Lainie writes:

<snip>

>From reading this article, it isn't at all clear to me how long the
>girl had "settled on" The Cradle, or whether or not this meeting with
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>think that putting the blame on The Cradle, without more information,
>is premature.

I agree. Let's try to look at this from the side of an adoption agency. Fifteen
year old girl makes contact and says something like, "I am pregnant. I am
keeping this a secret. I will place the baby at birth. I have no phone. You
cannot contact me. I have no access to medical care. Thank you. I will be in
touch."  What could an agency really do?  

This story really makes me wonder how things might have gone down had the
infant not arrived two months early.

Very, very sad.

P2P
J. - 19 Aug 2004 14:10 GMT
>Lainie writes:
>
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>
>P2P

Fair enough.  I hope to hear more on the agency's involvement.

J.

Reply to jmhjmd at aol.
Rhiannon - 19 Aug 2004 19:16 GMT
>  I hope to hear more on the agency's involvement.

So do I.
The agency's website assures pregnant minors that they do not need
their parents' permission and promises confidentiality (as well as
medical care, a 24 hour phone service, etc)
Anyway, the story seems to have disappeared.
I can't find it in the archives either, but that may just be my
ineptitude.

Rh.

> Reply to jmhjmd at aol.
Lainie Petersen - 19 Aug 2004 15:38 GMT
> I agree. Let's try to look at this from the side of an adoption agency. Fifteen
> year old girl makes contact and says something like, "I am pregnant. I am
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> This story really makes me wonder how things might have gone down had the
> infant not arrived two months early.

Who knows...she was trying to contact adoption agencies, so she
obviously was aware of the pregnancy and was trying to do something
about it.  I doubt that her plan was to have the baby at home, though
my suspicion is that she really hadn't thought that far ahead.

It's a good thing that she didn't bleed to death herself.

L.
Marley Greiner - 19 Aug 2004 17:33 GMT
> > Jesus Mary Mother of God!  The Cradle was part of this secret pregnancy
> > scheme!  As far as I'[m concerned they're directly responsible for the death
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
> L.

The article and the new one that was posted today really calls for
clarification.  The Cradle may very well have not been involved in any of
this, (the girl could have been going to her first meeting with the Cradle
rep when she went into labor) but the press is presenting it that way or at
least writing ambiguously.  The Cradle should, imo, make a very strong
statement as to their involvement or non-involvement.  I understand The
Cradle is adamantly opposed to SH, and now this story is being used to push
SH, which it's totally irrelevant to this specific case. I'm also concerned
about sloppy reporting and bad follow-up. As a reporter for an indie, who is
just getting back into it after a very long hiatus,  I go out of my way to
fact check and clarify quotes and it really bothers me when the so-called
pros don't.

Marley
Lainie Petersen - 19 Aug 2004 22:49 GMT
> The article and the new one that was posted today really calls for
> clarification.  The Cradle may very well have not been involved in any of
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> fact check and clarify quotes and it really bothers me when the so-called
> pros don't.

Yeah, though a lot of the people working for these small town papers
are hardly pros.

In any case, the articles seemed contradictory to me, I think the only
reason The Cradle was mentioned was that it was a Cradle caseworker
who called the police...or at least that is way I understood the
second article.

In any case, I agree that The Cradle ought to make a strong statement
on this scandelous matter.  It does seem, though, that this was NOT
supposed to be a SH situation: The young mother, though perhaps
foolhardy, was trying to do the best she could.

L.
Marley Greiner - 19 Aug 2004 23:05 GMT
> > The article and the new one that was posted today really calls for
> > clarification.  The Cradle may very well have not been involved in any of
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
> L.

I don't believe it was  SH matter either, though now it's being used as one.

Marley
Lainie Petersen - 20 Aug 2004 17:10 GMT
> I don't believe it was  SH matter either, though now it's being used as one.

What I would like to see is The Cradle, along with other adoption
agencies, to look long and hard at their policies regarding
communication with "secret pregnancy" women who are not getting any
prenatal care. As P2P said, they can't do much if they don't know who
the caller is, and they cannot force prenatal care, but they might be
able to develop more "persuasive" proceedures for future use.

I used to volunteer for a rape crisis center that had a
"non-directive" policy: We didn't push women to go to the police, tell
family, etc. But eventually the center did decide to get "directive"
regarding medical care after a sexual assault. It was too risky to do
otherwise.

L.
Marley Greiner - 20 Aug 2004 18:43 GMT
> > I don't believe it was  SH matter either, though now it's being used as one.
>
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>
> L.

I agree with you, but another problem is the cottage industry SH
"counselors" that have sprung up. The whole thing is going to explode one of
these days.

Marley
J. - 20 Aug 2004 21:53 GMT
>> "Marley Greiner" <maddogmarley@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
>news:<Yu9Vc.226112$OB3.40575@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>
>Marley

I thought it already had.

J.

Reply to jmhjmd at aol.
Marley Greiner - 20 Aug 2004 21:57 GMT
> >> "Marley Greiner" <maddogmarley@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> >news:<Yu9Vc.226112$OB3.40575@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>
> J.

Not according to them.  It's all the cats pajamas. Babies are being saved
and saved.   My favorite is the woman in your home state  who says she wants
to be in every bar in the state.  She's speaking figuratively, of
course--she wants SH information in every bar.  I like the idea, though, of
her in every bar. I makes SH so much more relevant.

Marley

> Reply to jmhjmd at aol.
J. - 21 Aug 2004 02:42 GMT
>> >> > I don't believe it was  SH matter either, though now it's being used
>as
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
>
>Marley

I hadn't heard this.  It's nice to know someone has managed to identify the
market segment for those in need of the SH option.

I'm sure glad it's not our under-age kids or our church-going families at risk
here.

J.

Reply to jmhjmd at aol.
Lainie Petersen - 20 Aug 2004 22:53 GMT
> I agree with you, but another problem is the cottage industry SH
> "counselors" that have sprung up. The whole thing is going to explode one of
> these days.

Yeah, when a 15 year old and her infant both die after a botched,
unassisted home birth, and her journal and best friends reveal that
she had been encouraged to go the SH route by a local crisis pregnancy
center.

L.
Rhiannon - 21 Aug 2004 00:27 GMT
> > I don't believe it was  SH matter either, though now it's being used as one.
>
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> regarding medical care after a sexual assault. It was too risky to do
> otherwise.

You're absolutely right.
This is a situation where 'persusion' *is* in order.
In fact, should be imperative.

Rh.

> L.
Don - 10 Sep 2004 08:39 GMT
> An infant boy was found dead in a shoebox in the home of his 15-year-old
> mother in Lansing, Ill., on Monday.

Whew!

Glad she didn't put the kid up for adoption. He would have been scared
for life!

- Don
 
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