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J. - 27 Aug 2004 00:36 GMT
Updated: 04:31 PM EDT

More Americans Uninsured, Living in Poverty

Census Data Shows Third Straight Annual Increase in Both Categories

By GENARO C. ARMAS, AP

WASHINGTON (Aug. 26) - The number of Americans living in poverty increased by
1.3 million last year, while the ranks of the uninsured swelled by 1.4 million,
the Census Bureau reported Thursday.

Approximately 35.8 million people lived below the poverty line in 2003, the
Census Bureau said.    

It was the third straight annual increase for both categories. While not
unexpected, it was a double dose of bad economic news during a tight
re-election campaign for President Bush.

Approximately 35.8 million people lived below the poverty line in 2003, or
about 12.5 percent of the population, according to the bureau. That was up from
34.5 million, or 12.1 percent in 2002.

The rise was more dramatic for children. There were 12.9 million living in
poverty last year, or 17.6 percent of the under-18 population. That was an
increase of about 800,000 from 2002, when 16.7 percent of all children were in
poverty.

The Census Bureau's definition of poverty varies by the size of the household.
For instance, the threshold for a family of four was $18,810, while for two
people it was $12,015.

Nearly 45 million people lacked health insurance, or 15.6 percent of the
population. That was up from 43.5 million in 2002, or 15.2 percent, but was a
smaller increase than in the two previous years.
 
Uninsured rates for children, though, were relatively stable at 11.4 percent,
likely the result of recent expansions of coverage in government programs
covering the poor and children, such as the state Children's Health Insurance
Program, analysts said.

Meanwhile, the median household income, when adjusted for inflation, remained
basically flat last year at $43,318. Whites, blacks and Asians saw no
noticeable change, but income fell 2.6 percent for Hispanics to nearly $33,000.
Asians had the highest income at over $55,000, while whites made $47,800 and
blacks nearly $30,000.

Census Bureau analyst Dan Weinberg said the results were typical of a
post-recession period. He said the increase in people without insurance was due
to the uncertain job picture.

"Certainly the long-term trend is firms offering less generous (benefit) plans,
and as people lose jobs they tend to lose health insurance coverage," he said.

Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry seized on the numbers as evidence
the Bush administration's economic policies have failed. During the years Bush
has been in office, 5.2 million people have lost health insurance and 4.3
million have fallen into poverty, he said.

"Under George Bush's watch, America's families are falling further behind,"
Kerry said.

Bush administration officials were quick to counter that the data didn't
reflect more recent gains in the economy in the first half of 2004 and left
some of the blame on Congress. Health and Human Services Secretary Tommy
Thompson said Bush was focusing on proposals that would reduce the costs of
health insurance for businesses.

"The big failure is not what is happening in the administration," Thompson
said. "Individuals in the Senate have failed to adopt the president's health
care plan."

House Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman Joe Barton, R-Texas, noted that
while more people lost insurance, the number of Americans who had coverage grew
by 1 million last year. Overall, 243 million people had insurance in 2003.

"The bottom line is this: More people in America have health coverage today
than at any time in our nation's history and I think that's a fact worth
noting, but we can always do more," Barton said.

Even before release of the data, some Democrats claimed the Bush administration
was trying to play down bad news by releasing the reports a month earlier than
usual. The reports normally come out separately in late September - one on
poverty and income, the other on insurance.

Releasing the numbers at the same time and not so close to Election Day "invite
charges of spinning the data for political purposes," said Rep. Carolyn
Maloney, D-N.Y.

Census Director Louis Kincannon - a Bush appointee - denied politics played any
role in moving up the release date. The move, announced earlier this year, was
done to coordinate the numbers with the release of other data.

Official national poverty estimates, as well as most government data on income
and health insurance, come from the bureau's Current Population Survey.

This year the bureau is simultaneously releasing data from the broader American
Community Survey, which also includes income and poverty numbers but cannot be
statistically compared with the other survey.

08/26/04 16:06 EDT

Copyright 2004 The Associated

Reply to jmhjmd at aol.
pb... - 27 Aug 2004 09:50 GMT
Top post from pb... :

OT, J? I think not since the majority who post here are, as Marley calls
us, USians. Here's a little tidbit to add to yours...fits right into the
puzzle as you can see...

washingtonpost.com

Bush Health Care Plan Seems to Fall Short
Gap Grows Between Hard Data, Projections for Covering 10 Million Uninsured

By Ceci Connolly
Washington Post Staff Writer

Sunday, August 22, 2004; Page A04

If the Republican-controlled Congress enacted President Bush's entire
health care agenda, as many as 10 million people who lack health
insurance would be covered at a cost of $102 billion over the next
decade, according to his campaign aides.

But when the Bush-Cheney team was asked to provide documentation, the
hard data fell far short of the claims, a gap supported by several
independent analyses.

Projections by the Congressional Budget Office, the Treasury Department,
academics and the campaign's Web site suggest that under the best
circumstances,****Bush's plans for health care would extend coverage to
no more than 6 million people over the next decade and possibly as few
as 2 million.*****

"There's little reason to expect that there would be any reduction in
the overall numbers of Americans without health insurance," Brookings
Institution health policy expert Henry J. Aaron said. "We're swimming
against a rather swift current in our efforts to reduce the number of
uninsured, and the power of President Bush's proposals to move against
that current is, it seems to me, very, very limited."

In his bid for a second term, Bush is reprising much of the health care
agenda he ran on in 2000, including tax credits for individuals who
purchase insurance, and the formation of new, largely unregulated
purchasing pools for small businesses called association health plans.

His Democratic challenger, Sen. John F. Kerry (Mass.), has released a
health care agenda that is more ambitious and more expensive, with plans
to expand government health programs, offer tax credits similar to
Bush's and reimburse businesses for some of their most costly
catastrophic cases.

Forecasting the cost and impact of policy proposals is always
complicated, and both presidential campaigns try to spin the numbers to
their advantage. Kerry, for example, estimates his health care proposals
would cover 27 million people at a 10-year cost of $653 billion. But
that assumes $300 billion in "savings" that the Bush team says might
prove elusive. Without the savings, the cost of the Kerry package jumps
to nearly $1 billion.

Health experts inside and out of the administration say many of the
assertions Bush makes about his first-term health care record and his
health proposals for a second term are exaggerated, incomplete or
contrary to widely accepted analyses .

On the campaign trail, the president trumpets last year's enactment of a
Medicare prescription drug package as his signature health achievement.
In monetary terms, the new policy -- estimated to cost $564 billion over
10 years -- goes far beyond the $158 billion proposal candidate Bush ran
on in 2000.

"When we came to office, too many older Americans could not afford
prescription drugs. Medicare didn't pay for them," he said last month.
"Leaders in both political parties had promised prescription drug
coverage for years. We got it done. More than 4 million seniors have
signed up for drug discount cards that provide real savings."

Left unsaid is that 2.9 million of them had no choice; they were
enrolled automatically. And full implementation of the drug benefits
will not occur until 2006.

Since Bush took office, the number of Americans without health insurance
has climbed by 4 million, to nearly 44 million. On its Web site and at
news briefings, the Bush campaign says that through its actions
overseeing Medicaid and the Children's Health Insurance Program, the
administration has "expanded eligibility to more than 2.6 million people."

The statement gives the impression "they have extended coverage to 2.6
million more, and that is not really true," said Diane Rowland,
executive director of the Kaiser Commission on Medicaid and the
Uninsured. "In reality, only 200,000 of them got coverage" because of
Bush administration efforts.

Megan Hauck, deputy policy director for health care of the Bush
campaign, did not have figures but said she thought the Kaiser data were
"awfully low."

Total enrollment in the two government health programs did rise during
Bush's tenure -- by about 7.5 million. But for the vast majority,
coverage was required by law, not the result of any policy change.

"Part of the reason more people were covered is the economy got so bad
that people lost income," Rowland said. "There were more low-income
people under Bush than previously, so they became eligible for public
programs."

Although Hauck generally touts the campaign's projection that the Bush
proposals would expand coverage to 10 million Americans, she said it
could be as few as 6 million. Of the 10 million, half will use the
proposed $1,000 tax credit ($3,000 for families) to buy insurance. The
estimate comes from congressional testimony by a Treasury Department
official who speculated that the 10-year, $70 billion proposal could
result in coverage for 4 million to 5 million people.

One year earlier, the Bush budget set aside $89 billion for the same
credit, claiming it would cover 4 million. Analysts say it is impossible
to see how spending $20 billion less, at a time when premiums are much
higher, could achieve the same level of coverage.

If the tax credit were passed, Jonathan Gruber, an economist at the
Massachusetts Institute of Technology, predicts some businesses will
drop health insurance. If just 1 percent of people who currently receive
coverage from an employer bought individual insurance instead, the Bush
policy would result in 1.8 million newly insured, according to Gruber's
analysis.

The next-largest element in the Bush agenda is a proposal to allow small
businesses to band together to purchase insurance through new
association health plans. Hauck said 2 million people would be covered
if this were enacted. The figure came from a January 2000 CBO report in
which the nonpartisan agency said 10,000 to 2 million people might join
association health plans.

But in its July 2003 analysis of the Republican bill, the CBO concluded
that 600,000 Americans would likely buy into the pools, at a cost of
$254 million. Even the Bush campaign Web site reports that "600,000
would be newly insured," or 1.4 million fewer than Hauck's tally. And a
recent study by Mercer Risk, Finance and Insurance Consulting found the
proposal could result in a decline of 1 million insured, because
small-business insurance premiums would likely rise.

Finally, the Bush campaign projects that 3 million people would be
covered through new health savings accounts, which allow people to save
money tax-free for out-of-pocket medical expenses. The new accounts,
purchased in combination with high-deductible, catastrophic insurance,
were created as part of last year's Medicare prescription drug package.

Hauck said an "internal estimate" by the campaign indicates the
provision would extend insurance to 1.1 million people, though she could
not provide supporting material. The Joint Committee on Taxation
estimated the proposal would cost $6.7 billion, but officials there
declined to say how many people that figure was based on.

MIT's Gruber and Paul Ginsburg, president of the Center for Studying
Health System Change, said the impact would be minimal, because some
people likely to purchase the new accounts are currently insured.
Democrats say it is unfair for the Bush campaign to include the
provision at all, since it is current law, not a proposal.

Bush wants to expand use of health savings accounts by also making the
premiums tax-deductible, a proposal Gruber said would increase the
number of uninsured by 350,000.

But Hauck said the campaign assumes that making the premiums deductible
will result in coverage for an additional 1.9 million people. That
figure is based on an article by Dan Perrin and Richard Nadler at the
HSA Coalition, a group that has worked for the past decade to pass
medical savings account legislation, according to its Web site.

The coalition includes conservative members such as the Christian
Coalition, the 60 Plus Association and the Small Business Survival
Committee.

© 2004 The Washington Post Company

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Chosenchildinc1 - 27 Aug 2004 18:19 GMT
You know Patti, it is just liberal, weenie, whiny, hysteria. None of that
information about health care and the economy is true, this great country is
turning the corner. Why do you read anything printed by the liberal media, it
is all lies, set out to destroy God's choice to lead us, GWB.

Satan controls those journalists, ignore them, come into the light, step into
the light,

Get Back Satan   !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Steve  White - 27 Aug 2004 22:51 GMT
> You know Patti, it is just liberal, weenie, whiny, hysteria. None of
> that information about health care and the economy is true, this
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>
> Get Back Satan   !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Slow day trolling for available babies, Marcy?

Perhaps you'll save one of those kids from a life of poverty and adopt
them into an upper middle class family. Without even charging a fee.
Nuttin' but the best of reasons for you, eh kiddo?

steve
Chosenchildinc1 - 28 Aug 2004 03:37 GMT
>Subject: Re: OT? More in poverty, more uninsured.
>From: Steve White steve@spam.me.never
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>
>steve

Hey Steve, great to hear from you, by the way, how much did you pay for your
kid???????????

And what would your kids life be like if you hadn't adopted?

Typical right wing extremist hypocrite !!!!!

Now go vote for GWB, I hear Iran is next on our list of the holy wars,

Satan vs. Christ........Thank God we have George to lead us into the promised
land.

Armageddon is our due, watch it come........
LilMtnCbn - 28 Aug 2004 04:04 GMT
>Subject: Re: OT? More in poverty, more uninsured.
>From: chosenchildinc1@aol.com  (Chosenchildinc1)
>Date: 8/27/2004 8:37 PM Mountain Standard Time
>Message-id: <20040827223755.02800.00002516@mb-m04.aol.com>

>Hey Steve, great to hear from you, by the way, how much did you pay for your
>kid???????????

Hey Marcy, now that you're back, can you tell us if this is you?

Woman sentenced in adoption fraud

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By Kimball Perry
Post staff reporter

Wanting a baby, physician Cheryl Palmer of Leeds, Ala., contacted a Florida
adoption agency looking for help.
The agency found an infant for her in Cincinnati.

That's where Carla Davis, 28, was when she contacted the same agency, "Chosen
Child," looking to place for adoption the child she said she was carrying.

In court Tuesday, however, Davis admitted she took $1,115 from the doctor in
adoption-related transactions although she was never pregnant.

"Ms. Davis some time prior to January 2003 made contact with an adoption
brokerage in Florida and notified them that she was pregnant," assistant
Hamilton County prosecutor Andrew Berghausen told Common Pleas Court Judge
Robert Ruehlman Tuesday at a hearing at which Davis pleaded guilty.

The agency got the women in contact with each other and they talked often by
telephone. Davis convinced the doctor to give her the money -- some to pay
bills, some just for herself -- in preparation for allowing the doctor to later
adopt her baby.

"It was only later on in the process when the proposed parent, Dr. Palmer, came
to Cincinnati to meet with Carla Davis that she discovered (Davis) was never
pregnant," Berghausen told the judge.

"Once that was discovered, Ms. Palmer reported that to police. They discovered
that Carla Davis was not pregnant at that time and she knew that," said
Berghausen. That was confirmed, court records indicate, by Davis' hospital
records.

Davis was left with two options -- going to trial or pleading guilty.

She pleaded guilty and was sentenced to serve two years of probation, repay the
doctor $1,115, get a full-time job and perform 100 hours of community service.

If she fails at probation, Ruehlman said he will send her to prison for the
maximum allowed -- 12 months.

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A good friend will come and bail you out of jail . . . but, a true friend will
be sitting next to you saying, "Damn . . . that was fun!"
-----Unknown
Steve  White - 28 Aug 2004 06:18 GMT
Top post: nah, can't be, all of Marcy's expecting mudders are all ready
to pop, doncha know?

steve

> Hey Marcy, now that you're back, can you tell us if this is you?
>
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> be sitting next to you saying, "Damn . . . that was fun!"
> -----Unknown
 
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