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Family Forum / Parenting / Adoption / August 2005Need Immediate Help In Texas
We are in the process of terminating parental rights on my daughter an her husband (who are separated), so that we can adopt my granddaughte who has lived with us for 2+ years. The problem is that I am findin it necessary to file for a Temporary Restraining Order to prevent m daughter from removing the child from our home in the interim. Th forms I am using (from the law library) mention a "temporar injunction/writ of injunction". Most of these forms are geared toward a divorce situation, where they're trying to keep someone from sellin property, etc. My question is "if all I'm doing is trying to keep th child in our home", do I need to include the clauses for a Temporar Injunction (there is no property involved) in my paperwork -- pmwatt Why would you terminate a child's relationship to his/her parents? I doesn't matter how long you claim the child lives with you, are you no close with your daughter? Do you not think restricting a child fro his/her parent for ANY reason wouldn't be traumatizing, parental right being terminated is a family law death sentence. Surely there i another route, to include supervised visitation if your daughter TRUL IS A DANGER... otherwise, I question your motives and reasons, afte all, you raised your daughter, yes? If she is unfit, maybe you weren' the best mother yourself. Just a thought for the kids -- 4thekid I really don't owe anyone an explanation, but here it is anyway. _We_are_doing_this_to_protect_the_child_. The mother has had little o no contact with this child and the child does not know her as "Mommy". This was the mother's choice, not ours. She is in a very unstabl living condition most of the time and suffers from severe depression explosive angry outbursts and is generally unstable. We have tried fo years to get her help, to help her, etc. and nothing makes an difference. And I've long ago gotten over the feeling that "she wasn' raised right". She also has an 11 year old son by a previous marriag who lives with his father and who she does not maintain contact with support or exercise her visitation rights. My husband is retired disabled and the only way we can guarantee my financial ability t raise this child if something happens to my husband - is by adoptin her. While it tears my heart out to do "this" to my daughter, there i an innocent child that needs to be protected and if I can't help m daughter, maybe I can guarantee my granddaughter what she deserves i this life. I hope this helps you understand -- pmwatt > I hope this helps you understand. Yep, we do. Sounds to me like you're doing the right thing. But get a lawyer. steve > Why would you terminate a child's relationship to his/her parents? It > doesn't matter how long you claim the child lives with you, are you not [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > all, you raised your daughter, yes? If she is unfit, maybe you weren't > the best mother yourself. Just a thought for the kids. Slag off womb crawling breeder. Marley > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Marley Greiner Wrote: > Slag off womb crawling breeder. > > Marley Wow Marley how judgmental (and WRONG) you are towards me when I' simply playing "devils advocate" for the kids - perhaps while you wer busy playing with criminals in death penalty cases, you forgot t realise how those people became criminals in the first place - many o them from broken homes, and from having situations that wer unfortunate. I have seen too many "concerned grandparents" who ar angry at their children for not becoming everything they'd wanted, s they think by taking their children from them, they can exact reveng and get a second chance at the same time. There is nothing wrong wit questioning the motives in a legal case - in fact - its one of th first things you do if you are worth anything. Oh, and by the way - I have two beautiful children and I voluntaril got a tubal so I wouldn't have anymore. A little quick there Marle jumping to conclusions, I certainly agree with you to hire a attorney... so, tell me Marley, did they get the chair or what -- 4thekid > Marley Greiner Wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Wow Marley how judgmental (and WRONG) you are towards me when I'm > simply playing "devils advocate" for the kids - That is he only advocate children have. The devil. perhaps while you were > busy playing with criminals in death penalty cases, you forgot to > realise how those people became criminals in the first place - many of > them from broken homes, and from having situations that were > unfortunate. Some yes; others no. I worked with prisoners for years Some come from great homes. I have seen too many "concerned grandparents" who are > angry at their children for not becoming everything they'd wanted, so > they think by taking their children from them, they can exact revenge > and get a second chance at the same time. There is nothing wrong with > questioning the motives in a legal case - in fact - its one of the > first things you do if you are worth anything. Well, trying to take your kid's kids away is not a step most people take just because they didn't turn out like they wanted them, too. > Oh, and by the way - I have two beautiful children and I voluntarily > got a tubal so I wouldn't have anymore. A little quick there Marley > jumping to conclusions, I certainly agree with you to hire an > attorney... so, tell me Marley, did they get the chair or what? Hell no! This was a retrial that went pro se. After the first trial the ass't prosecutor resigned over what he called a railroading of the defendant. We were acquitted on retrials after a 6-week trial and a 2-day jury deliberation. The county nearly went bankrupt over the cost. Marley > Marley Greiner Wrote: > > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > conclusions, I certainly agree with you to hire an attorney... so, > tell me Marley, did they get the chair or what? Okay, so perhaps you're not a womb-crawling breeder. Now slag off. Cretin. steve > We are in the process of terminating parental rights on my daughter and > her husband (who are separated), so that we can adopt my granddaughter [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > child in our home", do I need to include the clauses for a Temporary > Injunction (there is no property involved) in my paperwork? I'm not a lawyer, but I support pro se work up to a point. ( I once assised in a pro se death penalty case). That said, capital murder cases are a breeze next to Family Court, the snake pit of the law. I'd not be fooling with with forms from the law library, but be hiring a lawyer instead to do it right. Filing TROs and TPRs against your own daughter sounds like a last-ditch effort to save a very bad situation (unlike what your critic has to say). Not all people are fit to be parents for whatever reason. Unfortunately, many of those people love the idea of breeding and never think of what happens afterwards. Marley Thanks for the support. The reason we haven't hired a lawyer is - yo guessed it - the cost. I used to work for attorneys, so have som knowledge on drafting papers and I'm pretty good at research. I eve did the papers for my daughter's first divorce, with no problems. Thi is a little more difficult, and so far the only place I've gotten stuc is this injunction thing. Anyway - I appreciate your thoughts -- pmwatt > Thanks for the support. The reason we haven't hired a lawyer is - > you guessed it - the cost. I used to work for attorneys, so have [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I've gotten stuck is this injunction thing. Anyway - I appreciate > your thoughts. However much a lawyer costs now, if a mistake is made and this whole proceeding is botched it's going to cost far more later. Not to mention the cost in time and anguish. I'd strongly suggest you find an experienced lawyer and work out a financial arrangement. Unless you're way in the boonies, there has to be a lawyer who will help. steve > We are in the process of terminating parental rights on my daughter and > her husband (who are separated), so that we can adopt my granddaughter [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > child in our home", do I need to include the clauses for a Temporary > Injunction (there is no property involved) in my paperwork? Call an attorney who is a specialist in this area. If you cannot afford one due to lack of income, perhaps your probate court can recommend one or put you in touch with your local Child Protection Services. The problem with forms downloaded from the Internet, gotten from a library or purchase from your local office supply store is they can be out-dated before the hit the shelves. Such a delicate matter should not be left in the hands of the inexperienced, regardless of the fact you may have worked in a lawyer's office. Good luck. (the)duckster |
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