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CANADA - EDITORIAL OPINION - Safe havens for babies: impressive evidence

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BabySafeHaven - 12 Jun 2007 13:49 GMT
CANADA

http://www.canada.com/reginaleaderpost/news/letters/story.html?id=9e6fd512-8d4f-
40ac-b19d-1f7d4bb88292


Safe havens for babies: impressive evidence

The Leader-Post
Published: Tuesday, June 12, 2007

We're a bit surprised at the lack of knowledge and understanding our
northern neighbors have on the subject of baby safe haven laws.

These life-saving laws are not simply an "easy way out" of parental
responsibilities, a quickie drop-off for newborns or any of the other
misconceptions spread around by the very few detractors of these laws.

These laws are very well thought-out and very involved programs that
handle a deadly serious situation in the best way possible, and the
results in the U.S. -- among the better programs -- has been
astounding in lives saved, counselling received, even in getting
medical and background information on the surrendered newborns. Forty-
seven states have passed baby safe haven laws, and 99 per cent of the
U.S. population lives in these states. Only Alaska, Nebraska and
Hawaii remain.

Take Massachusetts, for example. It was the 46th state to pass a baby
safe haven law just 30 months ago.

Prior to passage of the Massachusetts law, there were 13 abandoned
babies in a 54-month period while our legislature considered joining
the 97 per cent of the country that had passed laws.

Six babies had their medical and familial histories made useless by
death.

Of the seven who survived, four lost their heritages due to anonymous
unsafe abandonments. The mothers will never return due to possible
prosecution.

Since our law was enacted in October 2004, there have been six safely
surrendered newborns. All six have full medical histories given by the
mothers. Four moms came back to sign full-disclosure adoption
contracts. The last two surrenderings were in the last two months and
are being held as confidential. Those moms are immune from prosecution
when they return to give this information or possibly work toward a
reunification. Heritage-stripping was eight times worse prior to
passage of our baby safe haven law.

2005 was the first year in over 20 that there was not a baby abandoned
in Massachusetts. New York state also had its first year without an
abandonment following the passage of its law. Alabama went two years
following passage without an abandonment. Both states had severe
abandonment-of-newborn problems prior to passage of their laws.

Our 24/7 baby safe haven hotline receives from 50 to 100 calls a
month, and over 30 women have been counselled through the hotline to
enter parenting or adoption programs, averting any abandonment
situation.

Our awareness campaign is spread across the world through MySpace and
video web postings on that site, YouTube and Google Video. We're
surprised you haven't reported on it.

We'd be happy to work with the Canadian press to help fix these
misconceptions, and implement a proper baby safe haven program. The
media across New England is our best ally in generating awareness.

Michael Morrisey

Morrisey is a spokesperson at Baby Safe Haven New England.

Lexington, Mass.
KL - 12 Jun 2007 16:08 GMT
> CANADA
>
> http://www.canada.com/reginaleaderpost/news/letters/story.html?id=9e6fd512-8d4f-
40ac-b19d-1f7d4bb88292

>
> Safe havens for babies: impressive evidence

You really are SO pathetic!!  There is NO impressive evidence, just what
you make up in your little minds.  If anyone else were impressed with
your articles, they would post them, but you will notice that you are
the only ones who feel the need to post your own writings.  That is
really sad and pathetic!

--

KL
doug thomas - 12 Jun 2007 19:04 GMT
> CANADA
>
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>
> Lexington, Mass.

You Americans are so much smarter than us that it is appropriate for you to
lecture us - oh, and where were those weapons of mass destruction 650,000
dead Iraqis later?

But hey why let reality get in the way of perception.

Doug Thomas
J. - 13 Jun 2007 02:52 GMT
> > CANADA
>
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>
> - Show quoted text -

Hey, Doug, let's not pretend that the Morriseys are at all typical of
Americans.  They'd have us believe that they are wiser than anyone who
doesn't see things through their own murky bit of glass.

J.
Middle-American, geographically speaking.
Dad - 20 Jun 2007 02:21 GMT
< snip >

> You Americans are so much smarter than us that it is appropriate for you to
> lecture us - oh, and where were those weapons of mass destruction 650,000
> dead Iraqis later?
>
> But hey why let reality get in the way of perception.

Q: What's the difference between a Canadian and a canoe?
A: A canoe will tip.

Q: Why do Canadians screw doggy-style?
A: So both can watch the hockey game.

In Canada, there are only 2 seasons - six months of winter and 6
months of poor snowmobiling

How many Canadians does it take to make a chocolate chip cookie?
2. One to hold the cookie, and one to squeeze the rabbit.

Why does a Canadian cross the road?
To get to the middle.

Dad
J. - 22 Jun 2007 14:48 GMT
> < snip >
>
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> Why does a Canadian cross the road?
> To get to the middle.

Dad, poor dad.  Picking on our little brothers and sisters to the
north.  Shame on you.  Rabbit hockey is a great game!

J.
Robibnikoff - 22 Jun 2007 15:36 GMT
>> < snip >
>>
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> Dad, poor dad.  Picking on our little brothers and sisters to the
> north.  Shame on you.  Rabbit hockey is a great game!

Rabbit hockey?!?!?  Oh dear :(
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kippaherring@hotmail.com - 22 Jun 2007 15:47 GMT
Once upon a time in the Kingdom of Heaven, God went missing for six
days.
Eventually, Michael the archangel found him, resting on the seventh
day.
He inquired of God, "Where have you been?"
God sighed a deep sigh of satisfaction and proudly pointed downwards
through the clouds,
"Look Michael, look what I've made."
Archangel Michael looked puzzled and said, "What is it?"
"It's a planet," replied God, "and I've put LIFE on it. I'm going to
call it Earth and it's going to be a great place of balance."
"Balance?" inquired Michael, still confused.
God explained, pointing to different parts of Earth, "For example,
Northern Europe will be a place of great opportunity and wealth while
Southern Europe is going to be poor; the Middle East over there will
be a hot spot. Over there I've placed a continent of white people and
over there is a continent of black people," God continued, pointing to
different countries. "This one will be extremely hot and arid while
this one will be very cold and covered in ice."
The Archangel, impressed by Gods work, then pointed to a large land
mass the top corner and asked, "What's that one?"
"Ah," said God. "That's Canada, the most glorious place on Earth.
There's beautiful mountains, lakes, rivers, streams and an exquisite
coast-line. The people from Canada are going to be modest, intelligent
and humorous and they're going to be found traveling the world.
They'll be extremely sociable, hard-working and high achieving, and
they will be known throughout the world as diplomats and carriers of
peace. I'm also going to give them super-human, undefeatable ice
hockey players who will be admired and feared by all who come across
them."
Michael gasped in wonder and admiration but then proclaimed. "What
about balance, God? You said there will be BALANCE!"
God replied wisely. "Wait until you see the loud-mouth bastards I'm
putting next to them."
Tom - 22 Jun 2007 17:19 GMT
On Jun 22, 11:47 am, kippaherr...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Once upon a time in the Kingdom of Heaven, God went missing for six
> days.
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> hockey players who will be admired and feared by all who come across
> them."

Ice hockey?  ICE hockey?  The officials will be at your door shortly.
They will arrive with bell, book and candle.  You will then be
deported to the U.S.

Tom

> Michael gasped in wonder and admiration but then proclaimed. "What
> about balance, God? You said there will be BALANCE!"
> God replied wisely. "Wait until you see the loud-mouth bastards I'm
> putting next to them."
kippaherring@hotmail.com - 23 Jun 2007 00:43 GMT
> On Jun 22, 11:47 am, kippaherr...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> Ice hockey?  ICE hockey?

Je m'excuse.
Vestiges of my Britdomness still cling.

>  The officials will be at your door shortly.
> They will arrive with bell, book and candle.

Excorcism. Kewl.

>  You will then be
> deported to the U.S.

Quelle horreur!
A fate worse than a fate worse than death.
Steve  White - 24 Jun 2007 05:21 GMT
> Ice hockey?  ICE hockey?  The officials will be at your door shortly.
> They will arrive with bell, book and candle.  You will then be
> deported to the U.S.

What about field hockey?

steve
Tom - 25 Jun 2007 14:14 GMT
> In article <1182529173.281181.97...@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> What about field hockey?

What about it?

A Canadian referring to hockey as "Ice Hockey" is like an American
referring to football as "American Football."

Tom
kippaherring@hotmail.com - 25 Jun 2007 14:32 GMT
> What about field hockey?

That would be hockey in the UK.
>From Angela Brazil's genre school girl stories:
http://www.fullbooks.com/Monitress-Merle2.html

' "I daresay you'll soon feel better. It's a pity you'll miss the
hockey
practice," said Merle.

"What hockey practice?"

"Miss Mitchell has just told me to tell everybody. We're to play
instead
of having English language this afternoon."

Sybil's face was a study. But Miss Fanny's eyes were fixed upon her
with
such a questioning look that she was obliged to preserve her air of
faintness and continue to pose as an invalid. There was nothing for it
but to go and lie down. As she turned, however, she managed to whisper
to
Merle:

"You're the meanest thing on the face of this earth! Why couldn't you
tell me sooner about the hockey?" '

You can read the whole thing if you want.
BB Church - 12 Jun 2007 19:40 GMT
> CANADA
>
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>
> Lexington, Mass.

ECHO Echo echo echo......
kippaherring@hotmail.com - 12 Jun 2007 19:54 GMT
http://www.canadiancrc.com/Safe_Haven_Laws_CCRC_20APR06.htm
J. - 13 Jun 2007 02:48 GMT
> CANADA
>
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>
> Lexington, Mass.

Are we to take this as a yet another endorsement of BSH's or simply a
bit of public self-abuse?

J.
Kathy J - 13 Jun 2007 05:55 GMT
"BabySafeHaven" <BabySafeHaven@gmail.com> wrote in message

> Safe havens for babies: impressive evidence
>
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>
> Lexington, Mass.

Where is the impressive evidence?
It sounds to me like your theory is "make it legal and it will cease".
There are many possible reasons and incentives for not dumping a kid,
education, welfare increases, social acceptance, Britney Spears Syndrome,
etc.
I think the hotline in and of itself is a good service but too bad it's
linked with the Safe Haven Law.
Maybe Canadian press is not as gullible as some in the US.
Kathy J
Jackie - 14 Jun 2007 17:37 GMT
>We're a bit surprised at the lack of knowledge and understanding our
>northern neighbors have on the subject of baby safe haven laws.

I have read that some women in the US are now being prosecuted more
aggressively if they do not 'safe haven' the baby..

Is this true?

This article (full text below) comes from a recent situation in
Canada..

>Saskatchewan's Attorney-General says women who abandon their babies should not have to fear the justice system after another abandoned child was found in bizarre circumstances this week.

Snipped some..

>Attorney-General Frank Quennell said criminal prosecution in these circumstances isn't in the public interest.
>
>"I don't think it should be a justice system response," Mr. Quennell said. "A young, frightened woman confronted with a baby she just doesn't know how to cope with won't be prosecuted, particularly if she surrenders that child to a hospital or to social services."

Funny old world.. we already give women a break..

Stay the hell out of Canada..  Michael Morrisey!

Jackie

>http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20070524.DROPOFF24/TPStory/National
>
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>
>The child was initially taken to Prince Albert's Victoria Hospital, but was later transferred to the neonatal intensive-care unit at Saskatoon's Royal University Hospital.
Marley - 14 Jun 2007 19:42 GMT
> On Tue, 12 Jun2007 05:49:25 -0700, BabySafeHaven
>
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>
> Jackie

I wouldn't count on it Jackie  SHs are something every loyal state-
sucking socialist can get behind, as exhibited by its  "acceptance" in
the US. The cultural  Marxists' wet dream.

Marley

Marley

> >http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20070524.DROPOFF24/T...
>
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>
> >The child was initially taken to Prince Albert's Victoria Hospital, but was later transferred to the neonatal intensive-care unit at Saskatoon's Royal University Hospital.
Jackie - 16 Jun 2007 14:50 GMT
>> Funny old world.. we already give women a break..
>>
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>
>Marley

Well damn them all to hell..

Wait.. the one (pregnant woman unable to cope) caught in the middle is
the one damned to hell..

Jackei
pb... - 19 Jun 2007 10:48 GMT
>>> Funny old world.. we already give women a break..
>>>
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>
>Jackei

Surely you believe that the woman's child, tossed without a voice into a
state of cosmic disconnect, will also be damned to hell?

pb...

"It takes a cynic who still clings to a dollop of hope and optimism, perhaps,
to still be awed by the grim fact that there is actually no bottom to the
barrel."
--William Rivers Pitt--
Jackie - 22 Jun 2007 00:56 GMT
>>>> Funny old world.. we already give women a break..
>>>>
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>Surely you believe that the woman's child, tossed without a voice into a
>state of cosmic disconnect, will also be damned to hell?

I was addressing the issue of women being prosecuted when they abandon
their baby. When they do not safe haven it... as was written in that
newspaper article I quoted..

I say the way to help these women and the baby they may decide to kill
is to get them before they need to abandon the child.. Give them every
bit of support they can get..

And how are you Patty..

Jackie
kippaherring@hotmail.com - 22 Jun 2007 13:04 GMT
> Surely you believe that the woman's child, tossed without a voice into a
> state of cosmic disconnect, will also be damned to hell?

Wouldn't that have been Purgatory, at least before the recent Papal
pronouncement?
I do believe their inchoate souls (even, presumably, Canadian ones)
are now allowed to crawl into heaven.
 
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