CANADA - EDITORIAL OPINION - Safe havens for babies: impressive evidence
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BabySafeHaven - 12 Jun 2007 13:49 GMT CANADA
http://www.canada.com/reginaleaderpost/news/letters/story.html?id=9e6fd512-8d4f- 40ac-b19d-1f7d4bb88292
Safe havens for babies: impressive evidence
The Leader-Post Published: Tuesday, June 12, 2007
We're a bit surprised at the lack of knowledge and understanding our northern neighbors have on the subject of baby safe haven laws.
These life-saving laws are not simply an "easy way out" of parental responsibilities, a quickie drop-off for newborns or any of the other misconceptions spread around by the very few detractors of these laws.
These laws are very well thought-out and very involved programs that handle a deadly serious situation in the best way possible, and the results in the U.S. -- among the better programs -- has been astounding in lives saved, counselling received, even in getting medical and background information on the surrendered newborns. Forty- seven states have passed baby safe haven laws, and 99 per cent of the U.S. population lives in these states. Only Alaska, Nebraska and Hawaii remain.
Take Massachusetts, for example. It was the 46th state to pass a baby safe haven law just 30 months ago.
Prior to passage of the Massachusetts law, there were 13 abandoned babies in a 54-month period while our legislature considered joining the 97 per cent of the country that had passed laws.
Six babies had their medical and familial histories made useless by death.
Of the seven who survived, four lost their heritages due to anonymous unsafe abandonments. The mothers will never return due to possible prosecution.
Since our law was enacted in October 2004, there have been six safely surrendered newborns. All six have full medical histories given by the mothers. Four moms came back to sign full-disclosure adoption contracts. The last two surrenderings were in the last two months and are being held as confidential. Those moms are immune from prosecution when they return to give this information or possibly work toward a reunification. Heritage-stripping was eight times worse prior to passage of our baby safe haven law.
2005 was the first year in over 20 that there was not a baby abandoned in Massachusetts. New York state also had its first year without an abandonment following the passage of its law. Alabama went two years following passage without an abandonment. Both states had severe abandonment-of-newborn problems prior to passage of their laws.
Our 24/7 baby safe haven hotline receives from 50 to 100 calls a month, and over 30 women have been counselled through the hotline to enter parenting or adoption programs, averting any abandonment situation.
Our awareness campaign is spread across the world through MySpace and video web postings on that site, YouTube and Google Video. We're surprised you haven't reported on it.
We'd be happy to work with the Canadian press to help fix these misconceptions, and implement a proper baby safe haven program. The media across New England is our best ally in generating awareness.
Michael Morrisey
Morrisey is a spokesperson at Baby Safe Haven New England.
Lexington, Mass.
KL - 12 Jun 2007 16:08 GMT > CANADA > > http://www.canada.com/reginaleaderpost/news/letters/story.html?id=9e6fd512-8d4f- 40ac-b19d-1f7d4bb88292 > > Safe havens for babies: impressive evidence You really are SO pathetic!! There is NO impressive evidence, just what you make up in your little minds. If anyone else were impressed with your articles, they would post them, but you will notice that you are the only ones who feel the need to post your own writings. That is really sad and pathetic!
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KL
doug thomas - 12 Jun 2007 19:04 GMT > CANADA > [quoted text clipped - 68 lines] > > Lexington, Mass. You Americans are so much smarter than us that it is appropriate for you to lecture us - oh, and where were those weapons of mass destruction 650,000 dead Iraqis later?
But hey why let reality get in the way of perception.
Doug Thomas
J. - 13 Jun 2007 02:52 GMT > > CANADA > [quoted text clipped - 78 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Hey, Doug, let's not pretend that the Morriseys are at all typical of Americans. They'd have us believe that they are wiser than anyone who doesn't see things through their own murky bit of glass.
J. Middle-American, geographically speaking.
Dad - 20 Jun 2007 02:21 GMT < snip >
> You Americans are so much smarter than us that it is appropriate for you to > lecture us - oh, and where were those weapons of mass destruction 650,000 > dead Iraqis later? > > But hey why let reality get in the way of perception. Q: What's the difference between a Canadian and a canoe? A: A canoe will tip.
Q: Why do Canadians screw doggy-style? A: So both can watch the hockey game.
In Canada, there are only 2 seasons - six months of winter and 6 months of poor snowmobiling
How many Canadians does it take to make a chocolate chip cookie? 2. One to hold the cookie, and one to squeeze the rabbit.
Why does a Canadian cross the road? To get to the middle.
Dad
J. - 22 Jun 2007 14:48 GMT > < snip > > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Why does a Canadian cross the road? > To get to the middle. Dad, poor dad. Picking on our little brothers and sisters to the north. Shame on you. Rabbit hockey is a great game!
J.
Robibnikoff - 22 Jun 2007 15:36 GMT >> < snip > >> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > Dad, poor dad. Picking on our little brothers and sisters to the > north. Shame on you. Rabbit hockey is a great game! Rabbit hockey?!?!? Oh dear :(
 Signature Robyn Resident Witchypoo BAAWA Knight! #1557
kippaherring@hotmail.com - 22 Jun 2007 15:47 GMT Once upon a time in the Kingdom of Heaven, God went missing for six days. Eventually, Michael the archangel found him, resting on the seventh day. He inquired of God, "Where have you been?" God sighed a deep sigh of satisfaction and proudly pointed downwards through the clouds, "Look Michael, look what I've made." Archangel Michael looked puzzled and said, "What is it?" "It's a planet," replied God, "and I've put LIFE on it. I'm going to call it Earth and it's going to be a great place of balance." "Balance?" inquired Michael, still confused. God explained, pointing to different parts of Earth, "For example, Northern Europe will be a place of great opportunity and wealth while Southern Europe is going to be poor; the Middle East over there will be a hot spot. Over there I've placed a continent of white people and over there is a continent of black people," God continued, pointing to different countries. "This one will be extremely hot and arid while this one will be very cold and covered in ice." The Archangel, impressed by Gods work, then pointed to a large land mass the top corner and asked, "What's that one?" "Ah," said God. "That's Canada, the most glorious place on Earth. There's beautiful mountains, lakes, rivers, streams and an exquisite coast-line. The people from Canada are going to be modest, intelligent and humorous and they're going to be found traveling the world. They'll be extremely sociable, hard-working and high achieving, and they will be known throughout the world as diplomats and carriers of peace. I'm also going to give them super-human, undefeatable ice hockey players who will be admired and feared by all who come across them." Michael gasped in wonder and admiration but then proclaimed. "What about balance, God? You said there will be BALANCE!" God replied wisely. "Wait until you see the loud-mouth bastards I'm putting next to them."
Tom - 22 Jun 2007 17:19 GMT On Jun 22, 11:47 am, kippaherr...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Once upon a time in the Kingdom of Heaven, God went missing for six > days. [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > hockey players who will be admired and feared by all who come across > them." Ice hockey? ICE hockey? The officials will be at your door shortly. They will arrive with bell, book and candle. You will then be deported to the U.S.
Tom
> Michael gasped in wonder and admiration but then proclaimed. "What > about balance, God? You said there will be BALANCE!" > God replied wisely. "Wait until you see the loud-mouth bastards I'm > putting next to them." kippaherring@hotmail.com - 23 Jun 2007 00:43 GMT > On Jun 22, 11:47 am, kippaherr...@hotmail.com wrote: > > Ice hockey? ICE hockey? Je m'excuse. Vestiges of my Britdomness still cling.
> The officials will be at your door shortly. > They will arrive with bell, book and candle. Excorcism. Kewl.
> You will then be > deported to the U.S. Quelle horreur! A fate worse than a fate worse than death.
Steve White - 24 Jun 2007 05:21 GMT > Ice hockey? ICE hockey? The officials will be at your door shortly. > They will arrive with bell, book and candle. You will then be > deported to the U.S. What about field hockey?
steve
Tom - 25 Jun 2007 14:14 GMT > In article <1182529173.281181.97...@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > What about field hockey? What about it?
A Canadian referring to hockey as "Ice Hockey" is like an American referring to football as "American Football."
Tom
kippaherring@hotmail.com - 25 Jun 2007 14:32 GMT > What about field hockey? That would be hockey in the UK.
>From Angela Brazil's genre school girl stories: http://www.fullbooks.com/Monitress-Merle2.html
' "I daresay you'll soon feel better. It's a pity you'll miss the hockey practice," said Merle.
"What hockey practice?"
"Miss Mitchell has just told me to tell everybody. We're to play instead of having English language this afternoon."
Sybil's face was a study. But Miss Fanny's eyes were fixed upon her with such a questioning look that she was obliged to preserve her air of faintness and continue to pose as an invalid. There was nothing for it but to go and lie down. As she turned, however, she managed to whisper to Merle:
"You're the meanest thing on the face of this earth! Why couldn't you tell me sooner about the hockey?" '
You can read the whole thing if you want.
BB Church - 12 Jun 2007 19:40 GMT > CANADA > [quoted text clipped - 68 lines] > > Lexington, Mass. ECHO Echo echo echo......
kippaherring@hotmail.com - 12 Jun 2007 19:54 GMT http://www.canadiancrc.com/Safe_Haven_Laws_CCRC_20APR06.htm
J. - 13 Jun 2007 02:48 GMT > CANADA > [quoted text clipped - 68 lines] > > Lexington, Mass. Are we to take this as a yet another endorsement of BSH's or simply a bit of public self-abuse?
J.
Kathy J - 13 Jun 2007 05:55 GMT "BabySafeHaven" <BabySafeHaven@gmail.com> wrote in message
> Safe havens for babies: impressive evidence > [quoted text clipped - 64 lines] > > Lexington, Mass. Where is the impressive evidence? It sounds to me like your theory is "make it legal and it will cease". There are many possible reasons and incentives for not dumping a kid, education, welfare increases, social acceptance, Britney Spears Syndrome, etc. I think the hotline in and of itself is a good service but too bad it's linked with the Safe Haven Law. Maybe Canadian press is not as gullible as some in the US. Kathy J
Jackie - 14 Jun 2007 17:37 GMT >We're a bit surprised at the lack of knowledge and understanding our >northern neighbors have on the subject of baby safe haven laws. I have read that some women in the US are now being prosecuted more aggressively if they do not 'safe haven' the baby..
Is this true?
This article (full text below) comes from a recent situation in Canada..
>Saskatchewan's Attorney-General says women who abandon their babies should not have to fear the justice system after another abandoned child was found in bizarre circumstances this week. Snipped some..
>Attorney-General Frank Quennell said criminal prosecution in these circumstances isn't in the public interest. > >"I don't think it should be a justice system response," Mr. Quennell said. "A young, frightened woman confronted with a baby she just doesn't know how to cope with won't be prosecuted, particularly if she surrenders that child to a hospital or to social services." Funny old world.. we already give women a break..
Stay the hell out of Canada.. Michael Morrisey!
Jackie
>http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20070524.DROPOFF24/TPStory/National > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > >The child was initially taken to Prince Albert's Victoria Hospital, but was later transferred to the neonatal intensive-care unit at Saskatoon's Royal University Hospital. Marley - 14 Jun 2007 19:42 GMT > On Tue, 12 Jun2007 05:49:25 -0700, BabySafeHaven > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Jackie I wouldn't count on it Jackie SHs are something every loyal state- sucking socialist can get behind, as exhibited by its "acceptance" in the US. The cultural Marxists' wet dream.
Marley
Marley
> >http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20070524.DROPOFF24/T... > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > >The child was initially taken to Prince Albert's Victoria Hospital, but was later transferred to the neonatal intensive-care unit at Saskatoon's Royal University Hospital. Jackie - 16 Jun 2007 14:50 GMT >> Funny old world.. we already give women a break.. >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Marley Well damn them all to hell..
Wait.. the one (pregnant woman unable to cope) caught in the middle is the one damned to hell..
Jackei
pb... - 19 Jun 2007 10:48 GMT >>> Funny old world.. we already give women a break.. >>> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >Jackei Surely you believe that the woman's child, tossed without a voice into a state of cosmic disconnect, will also be damned to hell?
pb...
"It takes a cynic who still clings to a dollop of hope and optimism, perhaps, to still be awed by the grim fact that there is actually no bottom to the barrel." --William Rivers Pitt--
Jackie - 22 Jun 2007 00:56 GMT >>>> Funny old world.. we already give women a break.. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >Surely you believe that the woman's child, tossed without a voice into a >state of cosmic disconnect, will also be damned to hell? I was addressing the issue of women being prosecuted when they abandon their baby. When they do not safe haven it... as was written in that newspaper article I quoted.. I say the way to help these women and the baby they may decide to kill is to get them before they need to abandon the child.. Give them every bit of support they can get..
And how are you Patty..
Jackie
kippaherring@hotmail.com - 22 Jun 2007 13:04 GMT > Surely you believe that the woman's child, tossed without a voice into a > state of cosmic disconnect, will also be damned to hell? Wouldn't that have been Purgatory, at least before the recent Papal pronouncement? I do believe their inchoate souls (even, presumably, Canadian ones) are now allowed to crawl into heaven.
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