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Family Forum / Parenting / Adoption / September 2007US Attorney Atchison (FL) and the 5 year old
http://www.newsroomamerica.com/usa/story.php?id=392541 U.S. Attorney Arrested In Sex Attempt With 5-Year-Old 2007-09-19 08:01am An assistant U.S. attorney from Florida was arrested in Michigan and charged with interstate travel with intent to have sex with a five- year-old girl. J. D. Roy Atchison was arrested at Detroit's international airport and arraigned on three separate counts. The complaint says Mr. Atchison is charged with attempted enticement of a minor using the Internet, a charge carrying a potential 30-year sentence; aggravated sexual abuse, a charge also carrying a potential 30-year sentence; and traveling across state lines to have sex with someone under 12, a charge that was added today and carries a maximum of life in prison upon conviction. Upon arrest he was found to have a Dora the Explorer doll and Vaseline lubrication jelly in his possession. Mr. Atchison has worked in the U.S. Attorney's Office in Pensacola since the late 1980s, mostly handling asset forfeitures in criminal cases and civil cases in which the United States was a party. Since Aug. 29, he had been having almost daily online chats with an undercover officer posing as a mother interested in offering her fictitious 5-year-old daughter for sex, law officers said. (c) 2007 Newsroom. http://www.mlive.com/newsflash/michigan/index.ssf?/base/news-47/1190215243238380 .xml&storylist=newsmichigan New count for U.S. prosecutor accused of seeking sex with girl, 5 9/19/2007, 11:06 a.m. EDT By DAVID N. GOODMAN The Associated Press DETROIT (AP) - A U.S. prosecutor and youth sports leader from Florida who authorities say flew to Michigan for an expected sexual encounter with a 5-year-old girl has been indicted on an additional charge and ordered held without bond. U.S. Magistrate Virginia M. Morgan also lifted a suicide watch for John D.R. Atchison. Atchison, 53, of Gulf Breeze, Fla., is an assistant U.S. attorney in northern Florida, based in Pensacola. He is married with three children and has been active in youth sports in his hometown. He was arrested Sunday at Detroit Metropolitan Airport after arriving for a meeting with what he thought was the mother of a 5-year-old girl with whom he arranged to have sex, authorities said. In fact, the woman was a Macomb County sheriff's detective and part of an Internet sex sting operation. He originally faced charges of use of the Internet to seek illicit sex, which carries a mandatory minimum of 10 years in prison and a maximum of 30 years; and interstate travel to engage in illicit sexual contact, which carries up to 30 years. On Tuesday, a federal grand jury added a charge of crossing state lines with intent to have sex with someone under 12, which carries a minimum 30-year prison sentence and a maximum of life. Defense lawyer James Thomas declined comment after the hearing. Atchison's boss, U.S. Attorney Gregory R. Miller, said in a statement Tuesday that his staff was "deeply saddened by the arrest." He said his office was cooperating with the FBI, U.S. prosecutors and Michigan investigators and believed that "in the end, justice will be served." The status of Atchison's employment was unclear. "We are, of course, concerned about the welfare of Mr. Atchison's family, he added. "Our thoughts and prayers go out to them." Federal agents obtained a search warrant Monday for Atchison's Florida home. There was no word on what they sought or found. Atchison is president of the Gulf Breeze Sports Association, which runs youth baseball, softball, cheer leading, soccer, football and basketball programs. The group said that it was placing him on leave until the charges were resolved. "Roy Atchison has been a valued member of the Gulf Breeze community and the Gulf Breeze Sports Association for the past decade," the group's vice president, Mike Mabry, said in a written statement Wednesday. According to an FBI affidavit, Atchison sent an instant message Aug. 29 to Macomb County sheriff's Detective Linda Findlay, who is part of the 6-year-old Macomb Area Computer Enforcement Team. "Findlay created an online undercover persona ... of a mother with minor children who is interested in allowing men to have sex with her children," FBI Agent Matthew A. Bowman wrote. Atchison messaged her that he was "very much a family man," Bowman said. The prosecutor and undercover detective held almost daily online chats after that, and he told her that he wanted to have oral, vaginal and anal sex with the young girl, the FBI agent said. On Sunday, Atchison flew from Pensacola to Houston and then to Detroit Metro, where he was to meet the mother, the affidavit said. Instead, federal and county agents arrested him. He was carrying presents for the girl, including a doll and hoop earrings, and also had sexual materials, including petroleum jelly, Sheriff Mark Hackel said. The moment of arrest gave authorities something they lacked until that moment - certainty that they had the right man, Hackel told AP Television News. "Actually going to meet the person provides the opportunity for law enforcement to say, `This is the person that was behind the computer that was typing on the computer, indicating that they wanted to have sex with a child,'" the sheriff said. http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5icZT2eJIwU5VjIl_EPmFCLPSSu4A Prosecutor's Arrest Worries Florida Town By MELISSA NELSON - 1 hour ago GULF BREEZE, Fla. (AP) - John D.R. Atchison - federal prosecutor, married father of three - was a respected figure who coached girls' softball and basketball in a park a few blocks from his home in this well-to-do beach community. But all that came crumbling down when he was arrested last weekend in Detroit in an Internet sex sting on charges he traveled to Michigan to molest a 5-year-old girl. Officials say he later tried to hang himself in jail. Atchison, 53, had been communicating with an undercover sheriff's detective from Macomb County, Mich., who was posing online as the fictitious girl's mother and arranged for him to have sex with the child, police said. He was arrested carrying presents for her, including a doll and earrings, and sexual materials, officials said. In the community that once applauded Atchison for his dedication to youth sports, people now worry that the assistant U.S. attorney might have held other secrets. But authorities have so far found no cases of child molestation in Florida involving Atchison. "There were no red flags. He was normal. He went to work at the courthouse Monday through Friday. It's not like he carried dolls to the ballpark," said police Lt. Rick Hawthorne, who knew Atchison for more than 10 years and coached softball. Mayor Lane Gilchrist said: "My first thought was just how stupid it was, particularly someone of his stature. You couldn't think up something like that." Atchison's lawyer, James C. Thomas, did not return a phone call Friday. As a federal prosecutor, Atchison mostly worked on tax and financial crime cases. According to court records, it appears he never prosecuted child sex abuse cases. He was charged with three felonies in Michigan, including crossing state lines with the intent to have sex with someone under 12. He could get up to life in prison. The mayor has tried to reassure parents and other residents alarmed by Atchison's arrest. "There was nothing involving local children and there should be no implication that there is," he said. But City Manager Edwin "Buz" Eddy, who spent years attending youth sporting events with Atchison and his family, said he worries the community has not seen the end of the case. "Who's to say that someone won't come forward with an accusation tomorrow?" he said. Eddy expressed surprise and a sense of betrayal after the arrest. "If he called me two weeks ago and wanted my daughter to go on a fishing trip I would have said sure," the city manager said. Ron Johnson, a Pensacola criminal defense attorney, worked with Atchison and knew him socially because their children played sports together. The only thing that made Atchison different from some others was his slightly standoffish "intellectual manner," Johnson said. "He was obviously a very bright guy and maybe a little eccentric in that sense," he said. Atchison's boss, U.S. Attorney Gregory R. Miller, said in a statement earlier this week that his office was cooperating with the investigation. He said staff members were "deeply saddened by the arrest." http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070920/NEWS04/70920038/1065/SP ORTS17 Prosecutor arrested in child-sex sting attempts suicide, police say September 20, 2007 By CHRISTY ARBOSCELLO FREE PRESS STAFF WRITER UPDATED AT 12:59 P.M. A Florida federal prosecutor accused of arranging to have sex with a young girl in Michigan tried to hang himself with a sheet early this morning in Sanilac County Jail, Sheriff Virgil Strickler said. One of John David Roy Atchison's three cellmates saw the suicide attempt around 4 a.m. Advertisement "He alerted the guard and he (the guard) held him up to keep him from hanging himself," Strickler said. A corporal immediately contacted U.S. Marshals who transported him from the 119-bed jail, where he had been since Wednesday. It's unclear where he was taken from there. Atchison, 53 of Gulf Breeze, Fla., was not harmed. At his own request, the assistant U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Florida was removed from suicide watch Tuesday. He has been charged with traveling across state lines to have sex with someone under 12, enticement of a minor using the Internet and knowingly traveling interstate to engage in illicit sex. He faces life in prison upon conviction. According to court records, he described himself as "very much a family man," in online chats with an undercover officer posing as a mother interested in letting him have sex with her 5-year-old daughter. In the conversations from Aug. 29 to Sept. 16, he expressed a desire to engage in oral, vaginal and anal sex with her fictitious daughter. Officers from the Macomb Area Enforcement Team arrested him Sunday at Detroit Metro Airport. In addition to his lengthy background practicing civil and some criminal cases with the U.S. Attorney's Office, Atchison, a husband and father of three, served as president of the Gulf Breeze Sports Association. He coached girls' basketball in the community. A MySpace.com page that a court document identified as belonging to Atchison, stated he enjoyed spoiling young girls. He allegedly described himself on the page as "Handsome, educated, professional, experienced Daddy. I love younger girls. Like everything about you...how you think, talk, act. I'm very understanding and supportive..,never ever judgmental." The profile goes on to say that he would like to "pamper, spoil, change and take care of" girls. Atchison's general interests are listed as "surfing, diving, boating...everything to do with the water...music and cute girls." His defense lawyer, James Thomas, could not immediately be reached for comment today. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- cotts1 I'm a pedophile because of my certainty that if some 45 year old pedder wants to nab a little girl and rape her, he'll figure out a way. Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 2:10 am -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- tspiegel I'M WITH DRUMMY. Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:14 pm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- beeswax2231 David Corcyca, the Oakland County, Mich., prosecutor - you know, the guy who let the Lasalle Bank robber go, well he just came on t.v. and said if he were get the case the man in question would be let go and David himself would ask all Michigan mothers to offer this man help in the form of their 5 year olds! David you are a big failure to the people in Michgan for saying that. Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:34 pm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- mrspeedreader I'm curious. Reports indicate that this man's MySpace profile had links to ADULT women who enjoyed pretending to be babies and little children, even to the point of wearing diapers. What gives with this? I think I would like to withhold judgment until I read the computer chat transcript for myself. Funny that it hasn't been released yet. Is it possible that this man believed that he was talking to an adult woman who (he believed) was pretending to be the mother of a five year old child, when in fact the game was that either this woman or another adult woman would wind up playing the role of such a child --- all as part of this sex fetish game? One would think that the undercover officer would take pains to ensure that all such ambiguity was removed. I'd like to see for myself, however. Where is this chat transcript? Why hasn't it been released? Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:51 pm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- drummy Why didn't the guards help the ahole commit suicide? Let the guy kill himself, he's about as useful to society as Jenny Granholm is who should commit suicide herself and relieve this state. Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:34 pm http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5h4Cwc7R9apgsfa0PZG9nQVyPT0sQ New Sex Sting Charge for U.S. Prosecutor By DAVID N. GOODMAN - 2 days ago DETROIT (AP) - A federal prosecutor who authorities say came to Michigan expecting to have a sexual encounter with a 5-year-old girl has been indicted on an additional charge and ordered held without bail. John D.R. Atchison, 53, of Gulf Breeze, Fla., an assistant U.S. attorney based in Pensacola, Fla., was arrested Sunday at Detroit Metropolitan Airport when he arrived for a meeting with a woman he thought was going to let him have sex with her young daughter, authorities said. The woman actually was a Macomb County sheriff's detective and part of an Internet sex sting operation. He initially faced charges of use of the Internet to seek illicit sex, which carries a mandatory minimum of 10 years in prison and a maximum of 30 years, and interstate travel to engage in illicit sexual contact, which carries up to 30 years. On Tuesday, a federal grand jury added a charge of crossing state lines with intent to have sex with someone under 12, which carries a minimum 30-year prison sentence and a maximum of life. Defense lawyer James Thomas declined to comment after a hearing Tuesday before U.S. Magistrate Virginia M. Morgan, who denied bail. Atchison's boss, U.S. Attorney Gregory R. Miller, said in a statement Tuesday that his staff was cooperating with the FBI, federal prosecutors and Michigan investigators. The status of Atchison's employment was unclear. Atchison is president of the Gulf Breeze Sports Association, which runs youth baseball, softball, cheer leading, soccer, football and basketball programs. The group said Tuesday it was placing him on leave until the charges were resolved. According to an FBI affidavit, Atchison exchanged instant messages with Macomb County sheriff's Detective Linda Findlay, who is part of the 6-year-old Macomb Area Computer Enforcement Team. "Findlay created an online undercover persona ... of a mother with minor children who is interested in allowing men to have sex with her children," FBI Agent Matthew A. Bowman wrote. When he arrived Sunday, he was carrying presents for the girl, including a doll and earrings, and also had sexual materials, Sheriff Mark Hackel said. http://news.google.com/news?hl=en_US&ncl=http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5icZT 2eJIwU5VjIl_EPmFCLPSSu4A Prosecutor's Arrest Worries Florida Town The Associated Press - 1 hour ago GULF BREEZE, Fla. (AP) - John DR Atchison - federal prosecutor, married father of three - was a respected figure who coached girls' softball and basketball ... Sex-sting suspect attempts suicide Metro Detroit Detroit Free Press, United States - 11 hours ago BY CHRISTY ARBOSCELLO A Florida federal prosecutor accused of arranging sex with what he thought was a child in metro Detroit tried hanging himself with a ... Prosecutor Tries to Kill Himself After Arrest in Pedophile Case New York Times, United States - 14 hours ago By NICK BUNKLEY DETROIT, Sept. 20 - A federal prosecutor from Florida who is accused of traveling to Michigan with the intention of having sex with a ... Prosecutor arrested in child-sex sting attempts suicide, police say Detroit Free Press, United States - Sep 20, 2007 By CHRISTY ARBOSCELLO A Florida federal prosecutor accused of arranging to have sex with a young girl in Michigan tried to hang himself with a sheet early ... New Sex Sting Charge for US Prosecutor The Associated Press - Sep 19, 2007 DETROIT (AP) - A federal prosecutor who authorities say came to Michigan expecting to have a sexual encounter with a 5-year-old girl has been indicted on an ... Sex case sends shock waves Macomb County Detroit Free Press, United States - Sep 19, 2007 BY CHRISTY ARBOSCELLO Indicted federal prosecutor John David Roy Atchison appeared to be an upstanding citizen in the quiet peninsula city of Gulf Breeze, ... US attorney taken off suicide watch Detroit Free Press, United States - Sep 18, 2007 By CHRISTY ARBORSCELLO At his own request, a federal prosecutor from Florida, John David Roy Atchison, will be taken off suicide watch. ... Prosecutor Facing Sex Charges Attempts Suicide North Country Gazette, NY - 15 hours ago DETROIT, MICH-An assistant US Attorney from Florida, under arrest for traveling to Detroit to have sex with a five-year-old girl, unsuccessfully tried to ... Florida Federal Prosecutor Arrested For Trying To Have Sex With ... AHN - Sep 20, 2007 Detroit, MI (AHN) - A federal prosecutor from Florida jailed for trying to arrange to have sex with a 5-year-old girl survived a suicide attempt on Thursday ... Prosecutor Caught In Sting Tries To Hang Himself CBS 4, FL - Sep 20, 2007 (CBS4) DETROIT A Florida prosecutor who allegedly flew to Michigan to have a sexual encounter with a 5-year-old girl has reportedly tried to hang himself in ... Federal prosecutor from Gulf Breeze charged in sex sting EmeraldCoast.com, FL - Sep 20, 2007 A detention hearing was scheduled for today in the case of a federal prosecutor from Pensacola charged in an online child sex sting in Detroit. ... Jailed prosecutor is moved up north DetNews.com, MI - Sep 19, 2007 The Sanilac County Jail has taken steps to ensure the safety of a Florida federal prosecutor charged with flying to Detroit from Pensacola to have sex with ... GB man nabbed in Michigan Gulf Breeze News, USA - Sep 19, 2007 Those who know Roy Atchison say the reports out of Michigan must be describing a different person than the community leader and family man they know. ... FBI seizes computer of proseuctor facing child sex charges (With ... The Northwest Florida Daily News, FL - Sep 19, 2007 GULF BREEZE - The FBI has seized the home computer of the federal prosecutor arrested last weekend in a Detroit child sex sting and are examining its ... Federal Prosecutor Accused of Trying to Have Sex with Five-Year-Old First Coast News, FL - Sep 19, 2007 BY CHRISTY ARBOSCELLO DETROIT, MI -- A federal prosecutor flew to metro Detroit with a Dora the Explorer doll, hoop earrings and petroleum jelly for a ... US Attorney Arrested In Sex Attempt With 5-Year-Old Newsroom America, New Zealand - Sep 19, 2007 An assistant US attorney from Florida was arrested in Michigan and charged with interstate travel with intent to have sex with a five- year-old girl. ... Prosecutor arrested in sex case Fox 21, CO - Sep 19, 2007 (AP) -- DETROIT - An assistant US attorney from Florida has been arrested in an Internet sting operation. Authorities say 53-year-old John DR Atchison was ... US attorney in jail until trial DetNews.com, MI - Sep 18, 2007 Suicide watch is lifted for Florida prosecutor who is accused of planning to have sex with a 5-year-old girl. DETROIT -- A federal prosecutor from Florida ... Former Prosecutor accusing of Seeking Sex with a Girl Faces New ... First Coast News, FL - Sep 18, 2007 DETROIT (AP) -- A grand jury has issued new charges against a US prosecutor from Florida accused of soliciting sex with a 5-year-old girl on the Internet. ... New count for US prosecutor accused of seeking sex with girl, 5 WLNS, MI - Sep 18, 2007 AP - September 18, 2007 4:44 PM ET DETROIT (AP) - A federal grand jury in Detroit issued new charges today against a US prosecutor from Florida accused of ... Fla. US prosecutor accused of seeking sex with young girl KRGV, TX - Sep 18, 2007 DETROIT (AP) - An assistant US attorney from Florida has been arrested for allegedly flying to Michigan to have sex with a 5-year-old girl. ... GBSA Statement On Assistant US Attorney WKRG-TV, AL - Sep 18, 2007 By WKRG Staff A Gulf Breeze youth sports organization has placed a Assistant US Attorney on leave pending the outcome of charges in Michigan. ... Prosecutor Caught in Sex Sting Attempted Suicide ABC News - Sep 20, 2007 In this photo released by the Macomb County Sheriffs Department, John David R. Atchison, 53, of Gulf Breeze, Fla., is shown in Mount Clemens, Mich, Sunday, ... Federal prosecutor accused in child sex sting attempts suicide MLive.com, MI - Sep 20, 2007 By DAVID N. GOODMAN AP DETROIT (AP) - A federal prosecutor from Florida who authorities say flew to Michigan for an expected sexual encounter with a ... New count for US prosecutor accused of seeking sex with girl, 5 MLive.com, MI - Sep 18, 2007 By DAVID N. GOODMAN AP DETROIT (AP) - A US prosecutor and youth sports leader from Florida who authorities say flew to Michigan for an expected sexual ... Prosecutor in kid sex sting tries suicide Monsters and Critics.com, UK - 2 hours ago DETROIT, MI, United States (UPI) -- A federal prosecutor accused of traveling from Florida to Michigan to have sex with a 5-year-old girl tried to hang ... Sheriff: prosecutor arrested in child Internet sex sting attempts ... KESQ, CA - Sep 20, 2007 AP - September 20, 2007 1:33 PM ET DETROIT (AP) - Authorities say a federal prosecutor from Florida, who's accused of flying to Michigan for a sexual ... Northwest Florida prosecutor caught in child sex sting attempts ... WJHG-TV, FL - Sep 20, 2007 A Northwest Florida prosecutor who authorities say flew to Michigan for an expected sexual encounter with a 5-year-old girl has tried to hang himself in his ... Prosecutor in sex sting arrest attempts suicide DetNews.com, MI - Sep 20, 2007 John David "Roy" Atchison, the Florida federal prosecutor indicted for allegedly flying from Pensacola, Fla., to Detroit to have sex with a 5- year-old girl, ... http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0709/18/cnr.02.html Federal prosecutor caught in an Internet sting. Police say John Atchison wanted sex with a 5-year-old Michigan girl. Michael Rosenfield of affiliate WXYZ has more. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) MICHAEL ROSENFIELD, WXYZ REPORTER (voice-over): Fifty-three- year-old John David Roy Atchison, a top law enforcement official in Florida, under arrest in Detroit, accused of trying to have sex with whom he thought was a 5-year-old girl. Authorities say Atchison conversed over e-mail with an undercover detective whose online profile says she is a mother with young children who men could have sex with. Atchison who is an assistant U.S. attorney for the Northern District of Florida allegedly began daily online chats with her telling her, he is, quote, "very much a family man". According to authorities he also wrote, quote, "I'm always gentle and loving, not to worry, I've done it plenty". After about two weeks of chats, a meeting was established and Atchison allegedly wrote the undercover detective to tell her daughter, quote, "You found her a sweet boyfriend who will bring her presents". (END VIDEOTAPE) COLLINS: Atchison is a married man with children. > http://www.newsroomamerica.com/usa/story.php?id=392541 > U.S. Attorney Arrested In Sex Attempt With 5-Year-Old [quoted text clipped - 552 lines] > allegedly flying from Pensacola, Fla., to Detroit to have sex with a 5- > year-old girl, ... > http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0709/18/cnr.02.html > [quoted text clipped - 583 lines] > > allegedly flying from Pensacola, Fla., to Detroit to have sex with a 5- > > year-old girl, ... Do you have a point gregg? > Do you have a point gregg? Any questions? > > Do you have a point gregg? > > Any questions? Why did you abuse your mentally ill wife? Why did you abuse Lisa Watkins' little girl? When are you going to admit you're a lying scumbag, Greg? FM > Do you have a point gregg? G > Any questions? DS > Why did you abuse your mentally ill wife? Should we ask your ex-wife who called in several child abuse reports on you Dan? DS > Why did you abuse Lisa Watkins' little girl? Why did you touch your daughter in the toilet, Dan? Did your state of undress have anything to do with the fact that the caseworkers "founded" you several times? DS > When are you going to admit you're a lying scumbag, Greg? How do you explain the large number of investigations? 15 is a lot. G > DAN SULLIVAN'S DAUGHTER SAID G > "My daddy touched me with the puppet bear in the toilet." Dave Moore wrote > Do you have proof that she said this? Dan HIMSELF volunteered the quote at least 5 times in 6 years. Jul 12 2007 6:56 am http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/msg/52b49e5 611d619ea?hl=en& Jul 21 2004, 9:31 am http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/msg/d15f8e3 38226b780?hl=en& Apr 18 2004, 7:43 pm http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/msg/fbdc314 69c3c74c9?hl=en& Feb 1 2002, 1:50 pm http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.foster-parents/msg/2d04c26b08f9f2b9?&hl=en Sep 21 2001, 12:08 pm http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/msg/1053fa8 cf6b86a18?hl=en& I have some questions for you Dan Sullivan! You might recognize some of them! DAN SULLIVAN'S DAUGHTER SAID "My daddy touched me with the puppet bear in the toilet." Was your daughter telling a LIE when she said this? Were you telling a lie when you POSTED THIS, Dan? Did the caseworkers whack off to your daughter's "credible evidence" Dan? You touched your own little girl, didn't you Dan? And you were FOUNDED for it but later you got them to UNFOUND it, right? Was there credible evidence that you touched your little girl in the bathroom? Did you use your bare hands Dan? Where was the little girl's mother during this? Did the little girl's mother know you were doing this? Did you hand your little girl a TOWEL afterwards? What state of undress were you in when you touched her? Why did you need to be in the bathroom when your little girl was in there? How old was she when you did this to your own little girl? How many times did you do this Dan? When a person reverses a FOUNDED decision does that DISPROVE the accusation, Dan? Did you ever hear the caseworker expressions: "Unfounded doesn't mean untrue." or "Children don't lie." ? > FM > Do you have a point gregg? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Should we ask your ex-wife who called in several > child abuse reports on you Dan? Ask my ex-wife why you abused your mentally ill wife, Greg? What sense would that make? > DS > Why did you abuse Lisa Watkins' little girl? > > Why did you touch your daughter in the toilet, Dan? I don't touch anything in the toilet, Greg. > Did your state of undress have anything to do > with the fact that the caseworkers "founded" you several times? They never saw me in any state of undress. > DS > When are you going to admit you're a lying scumbag, Greg? > > How do you explain the large number of investigations? 15 is a lot. I don't have to explain them, Greg. All that needs to be said is they all were determined to be unfounded. > G > DAN SULLIVAN'S DAUGHTER SAID > G > "My daddy touched me with the puppet bear in the toilet." [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Sep 21 2001, 12:08 pmhttp://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/... I was quoting what the CPS CW claimed my daughter said. There was no corroboration that she ever said it. FM > Do you have a point gregg? G > Any questions? DS > Why did you abuse your mentally ill wife? G > Should we ask your ex-wife who called in several G > child abuse reports on you Dan? DS > Ask my ex-wife why you abused your mentally ill wife, Greg? Maybe my mentally ill ex should talk to your mentally ill ex? The two bipolar manic depressives could compare notes! Your ex must really LOVE you to turn in so many child abuse accusations! What did you do to her, Dan? DS > What sense would that make? DS > Why did you abuse Lisa Watkins' little girl? Why were you "FOUNDED" several times? G > Why did you touch your daughter in the toilet, Dan? DS > I don't touch anything in the toilet, Greg. G > Did your state of undress have anything to do G > with the fact that the caseworkers "founded" you several times? DS > They never saw me in any state of undress. Not the Ethel Merman outfit again! DS > When are you going to admit you're a lying scumbag, Greg? G > How do you explain the large number of investigations? 15 is a lot. DS > I don't have to explain them, Greg. Of course not! Nobody's going to worry that you were accused and investigated 15 times for Child Abuse! DS > All that needs to be said is they all were determined to be unfounded. That's partly true. But you didn't drop the other shoe did you? You were originally FOUNDED five of those times. Is that why you said "All that needs to be said" when you left that detail out? That's from your own statements. Did you lie? Why is it you were accused in 15 Child Abuse Investigations and "founded" for 5 of them, Dan ? Is there something about how you LOOK or ACT that gets you lots of attention Dan? Wasn't it you that basically said "Where there's smoke there's fire"? FIFTEEN investigations and 5 FOUNDEDS sure is smoke! DAN SULLIVAN'S DAUGHTER SAID "My daddy touched me with the puppet bear in the toilet." DS > I was quoting what the CPS CW claimed my daughter said. DS > There was no corroboration that she ever said it. Yet YOU volunteered the statement at least 5 times over 6 years, Dan. Why is that Dan? > FM > Do you have a point gregg? > [quoted text clipped - 69 lines] > > Why is that Dan? Why do you think? It could not have been that he knows CPS can make mistakes and workers can also be vindictive? that his experience with just that could help others FALSELY accused? KYAO > > FM > Do you have a point gregg? > [quoted text clipped - 75 lines] > > KYAO Lets look at the differences between you greggie and Dan, His daughter was a toddler, learning to use the toilet Your girlfriends daughter was SEVEN years old, GET IT?? Dan was this babies FATHER, GET IT? You were mommy's latest squeeze, the paramour. The two incidents do not compare AT ALL. You are not fit to lick the sh.t off Dans boots, after he stepped in fresh cat feces. Firemonkey wrote > You are not fit to lick the sh.t off Dans boots, after he stepped in > fresh cat feces The way you lick Dan's boots you mean? Does Firemonkey speak for you Dan? > Does Firemonkey speak for you Dan? Thats really funny greggie, ah, where is kennie? > On Sep 21, 8:49 pm, Greegor <Greego...@gmail.com> wrote:> Does Firemonkey speak for you Dan? > > Thats really funny greggie, ah, where is kennie? kennie? > FM > Do you have a point gregg? > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Your ex must really LOVE you to turn in so many > child abuse accusations! What did you do to her, Dan? She reported or threatened to report to CPS many people over the years, Greg. She didn't discriminate much at all. > DS > What sense would that make? > DS > Why did you abuse Lisa Watkins' little girl? > > Why were you "FOUNDED" several times? "Unfounded" every time is the more accurate and true way of explaining the results of all the reports. > G > Why did you touch your daughter in the toilet, Dan? > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > You were originally FOUNDED five of those times. All that matters is the final determination. > Is that why you said "All that needs to be said" when you > left that detail out? Again, all that matters is the final determination. > That's from your own statements. Did you lie? About what, a.shole? > Why is it you were accused in 15 Child Abuse Investigations > and "founded" for 5 of them, Dan ? I was accused more that 15 times. And each and every report was unfounded. > Is there something about how you LOOK or ACT > that gets you lots of attention Dan? > > Wasn't it you that basically said "Where there's smoke there's fire"? Referring to all the perversions you admitted subjecting Lisa Watkins' little girl to. > FIFTEEN investigations and 5 FOUNDEDS sure is smoke! Not at all. > DAN SULLIVAN'S DAUGHTER SAID > "My daddy touched me with the puppet bear in the toilet." [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Why is that Dan? To show how ridiculous it was for the CPS CW's to claim she had credible evidence when in the next sentence she wrote that she didn't understand what my daughter said!!! The CW was almost as stupid as you, Greg. At least she had the sense to quit when her incompetence and culpability came to light. FM > Do you have a point gregg? G > Any questions? DS > Why did you abuse your mentally ill wife? G > Should we ask your ex-wife who called in several G > child abuse reports on you Dan? DS > Ask my ex-wife why you abused your mentally ill wife, Greg? G > Maybe my mentally ill ex should talk to your mentally ill ex? G > The two bipolar manic depressives could compare notes! G > Your ex must really LOVE you to turn in so many G > child abuse accusations! What did you do to her, Dan? DS > She reported or threatened to report to CPS DS > many people over the years, Greg. DS > She didn't discriminate much at all. What are you trying to minimize Dan? Your mental case ex wife's false accusations? DS > What sense would that make? DS > Why did you abuse Lisa Watkins' little girl? G > Why were you "FOUNDED" several times? DS > "Unfounded" every time is the more accurate DS > and true way of explaining the results of all the reports. That conveniently avoids the fact you were FOUNDED FIVE TIMES. You had to reverse those five determinations. G > Why did you touch your daughter in the toilet, Dan? DS > I don't touch anything in the toilet, Greg. So WHY did you volunteer the quote so many times Dan? G > Did your state of undress have anything to do G > with the fact that the caseworkers "founded" you several times? DS > They never saw me in any state of undress. G > Not the Ethel Merman outfit again! DS > When are you going to admit you're a lying scumbag, Greg? G > How do you explain the large number G > of investigations? 15 is a lot. DS > I don't have to explain them, Greg. G > Of course not! Nobody's going to worry that G > you were accused and investigated 15 times for Child Abuse! DS > All that needs to be said is they all DS > were determined to be unfounded. G > That's partly true. But you didn't drop the other shoe did you? G > You were originally FOUNDED five of those times. DS > All that matters is the final determination. Isn't THAT convenient!? G > Is that why you said "All that needs to be said" G > when you left that detail out? DS > Again, all that matters is the final determination. Where there's smoke there's fire, right Dan? 15 + Investigations, 5 FOUNDEDS.. is that smoke? G > That's from your own statements. Did you lie? DS > About what, [a-h]? The 15+ investigations and 5+ FOUNDEDS of course! G > Why is it you were accused in 15 Child Abuse G > Investigations and "founded" for 5 of them, Dan ? DS > I was accused more that 15 times. DS > And each and every report was unfounded. Later you mean. But 5 (or more) were initially FOUNDED. G > Is there something about how you LOOK or ACT G > that gets you lots of attention Dan? G > Wasn't it you that basically said "Where there's smoke there's fire"? DS > Referring to all the perversions you admitted DS > subjecting Lisa Watkins' little girl to. Of course! That concept would NEVER apply to your own FIFTEEN CHILD ABUSE INVESTIGATIONS or the FIVE FOUNDEDS you SAY you reversed. G > FIFTEEN investigations and 5 FOUNDEDS sure is smoke! DS > Not at all. For a guy who claims he was investigated 15 + times for CHILD ABUSE and FOUNDED five times, to make a statement like "Where there's smoke there's fire." is utterly rediculous. DAN SULLIVAN'S DAUGHTER SAID "My daddy touched me with the puppet bear in the toilet." DS > I was quoting what the CPS CW claimed my daughter said. DS > There was no corroboration that she ever said it. G > Yet YOU volunteered the statement at G > least 5 times over 6 years, Dan. Why is that Dan? DS > To show how ridiculous it was for the CPS CW's DS > to claim she had credible evidence when in the DS > next sentence she wrote that she didn't DS > understand what my daughter said!!! DS > The CW was almost as stupid as you, Greg. DS > At least she had the sense to quit when her DS > incompetence and culpability came to light. Did she say "Where there's smoke there's fire." about somebody else after being investigated over and over for Child Abuse herself? > FM > Do you have a point gregg? > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > What are you trying to minimize Dan? Nothing. > Your mental case ex wife's false accusations? CPS and the Courts did that. > DS > What sense would that make? > DS > Why did you abuse Lisa Watkins' little girl? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > That conveniently avoids the fact you were FOUNDED FIVE TIMES. The only thing that matters is the final determination. > You had to reverse those five determinations. CPS had to reverse those determinations. > G > Why did you touch your daughter in the toilet, Dan? > > DS > I don't touch anything in the toilet, Greg. > > So WHY did you volunteer the quote so many times Dan? Already answered. > G > Did your state of undress have anything to do > G > with the fact that the caseworkers "founded" you several times? [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Isn't THAT convenient!? It's what's accurate and true. Deal with it, Greg. > G > Is that why you said "All that needs to be said" > G > when you left that detail out? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Where there's smoke there's fire, right Dan? > 15 + Investigations, 5 FOUNDEDS.. is that smoke? No. I never admitted anything because I didn't do anything inappropriate, while YOU did, Greg. > G > That's from your own statements. Did you lie? > > DS > About what, [a-h]? > > The 15+ investigations and 5+ FOUNDEDS of course! No. > G > Why is it you were accused in 15 Child Abuse > G > Investigations and "founded" for 5 of them, Dan ? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Later you mean. But 5 (or more) were initially FOUNDED. In error. > G > Is there something about how you LOOK or ACT > G > that gets you lots of attention Dan? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > your own FIFTEEN CHILD ABUSE INVESTIGATIONS > or the FIVE FOUNDEDS you SAY you reversed. I didn't reverse the findings. CPS did when they were unable to produce any credible evidence. > G > FIFTEEN investigations and 5 FOUNDEDS sure is smoke! > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > a statement like "Where there's smoke there's fire." > is utterly rediculous. Learn to spell, a.shole. > DAN SULLIVAN'S DAUGHTER SAID > "My daddy touched me with the puppet bear in the toilet." That was the claim of the CW who quit. > DS > I was quoting what the CPS CW claimed my daughter said. > DS > There was no corroboration that she ever said it. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > somebody else after being investigated over and over > for Child Abuse herself? I don't know. >> Do you have a point gregg? > > Any questions? Yes. We know that there are bad people everywhere gregg, yourself included. Just what is the point of your post? To tell us something we already knew? To educate the masses about the fact that child abuse and neglect does not have a "class", an "income", or a "color"? Just what is your point gregg? Ron > Yes. We know that there are bad people everywhere gregg, yourself > included. Just what is the point of your post? To tell us something we > already knew? To educate the masses about the fact that child abuse and > neglect does not have a "class", an "income", or a "color"? > > Just what is your point gregg? I posted a NEWS STORY and you system suckwads are all having a cow griping about WHO posted the story and not the story itself or what it says about our system itself. Remember my comments about how these stings would catch a lot of people INSIDE of the system? Foster Ron from Omaha, your motives are obvious. You still griping about fx's blurb at the bottom of his stories Ron? Throw a hissy fit about some technicality! Pbtbntbtbt! >> Yes. We know that there are bad people everywhere gregg, yourself >> included. Just what is the point of your post? To tell us something we [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > story and not the story itself or what it says about > our system itself. Its says that there are bad people everywhere gregg. But we already knew that. So, what was your point? > Remember my comments about how these stings > would catch a lot of people INSIDE of the system? Was this your point? Of the 880,000+ victims annually some 100 or so are victimized by people associated in some small way with the system? How many were victimized by plumbers? How many by carpenters? How many by Dentists? How about those who have no job like yourself gregg? How many children were victimized by those types of people gregg? > Foster Ron from Omaha, your motives are obvious. > > You still griping about fx's blurb at the bottom of his stories Ron? > > Throw a hissy fit about some technicality! Pbtbntbtbt! You asked if there were any questions gregg. Just how far off the cliff are you going to jump when someone asks? Not prepared for someone actually having the gaul to ask you a relevant question? Care to throw another hissy-fit for us gregg? We could all use some extra entertainment. Ron > Yes. We know that there are bad people everywhere gregg, yourself > included. Just what is the point of your post? To tell us something we > already knew? To educate the masses about the fact that child abuse and > neglect does not have a "class", an "income", or a "color"? > Just what is your point gregg? I posted a NEWS STORY and you system suckwads are all having a cow griping about WHO posted the story and not the story itself or what it says about our system itself. Remember my comments about how these stings would catch a lot of people INSIDE of the system? Foster Ron from Omaha, your motives are obvious. You still griping about fx's blurb at the bottom of his stories Ron? Throw a hissy fit about some technicality! Pbtbntbtbt! > > Yes. We know that there are bad people everywhere gregg, yourself > > included. Just what is the point of your post? To tell us something we [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Throw a hissy fit about some technicality! Pbtbntbtbt! You posted this..... "Foster Ron from Omaha" so I will post this, get it? Gregg Hanson 401 7 Ave SW Cedar Rapids, IA 52404 (319) 550-1421 Check his criminal record at http://www.iowacourts.state.ia.us/ESAWebApp/DefaultFrame Greg S Hanson DOB 05/22/1959 Linn County > You posted this..... > > "Foster Ron from Omaha" > > so I will post this, get it? No problem! G > DAN SULLIVAN'S DAUGHTER SAID G > "My daddy touched me with the puppet bear in the toilet." Dave Moore wrote > Do you have proof that she said this? Dan HIMSELF volunteered the quote at least 5 times in 6 years. Jul 12 2007 6:56 am http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/msg/52b49e5 611d619ea?hl=en& Jul 21 2004, 9:31 am http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/msg/d15f8e3 38226b780?hl=en& Apr 18 2004, 7:43 pm http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/msg/fbdc314 69c3c74c9?hl=en& Feb 1 2002, 1:50 pm http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.foster-parents/msg/2d04c26b08f9f2b9?&hl=en Sep 21 2001, 12:08 pm http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/msg/1053fa8 cf6b86a18?hl=en& I have some questions for you Dan Sullivan! You might recognize some of them! DAN SULLIVAN'S DAUGHTER SAID "My daddy touched me with the puppet bear in the toilet." Was your daughter telling a LIE when she said this? Were you telling a lie when you POSTED THIS, Dan? Did the caseworkers whack off to your daughter's "credible evidence" Dan? You touched your own little girl, didn't you Dan? And you were FOUNDED for it but later you got them to UNFOUND it, right? Was there credible evidence that you touched your little girl in the bathroom? Did you use your bare hands Dan? Where was the little girl's mother during this? Did the little girl's mother know you were doing this? Did you hand your little girl a TOWEL afterwards? What state of undress were you in when you touched her? Why did you need to be in the bathroom when your little girl was in there? How old was she when you did this to your own little girl? How many times did you do this Dan? When a person reverses a FOUNDED decision does that DISPROVE the accusation, Dan? Did you ever hear the caseworker expressions: "Unfounded doesn't mean untrue." or "Children don't lie." ? > > You posted this..... > > > "Foster Ron from Omaha" > > > so I will post this, get it? Get this! Does Firemonkey speak for you Dan? G > DAN SULLIVAN'S DAUGHTER SAID G > "My daddy touched me with the puppet bear in the toilet." Dave Moore wrote > Do you have proof that she said this? Dan HIMSELF volunteered the quote at least 5 times in 6 years. Jul 12 2007 6:56 am http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/msg/52b49e5 611d619ea?hl=en& Jul 21 2004, 9:31 am http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/msg/d15f8e3 38226b780?hl=en& Apr 18 2004, 7:43 pm http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/msg/fbdc314 69c3c74c9?hl=en& Feb 1 2002, 1:50 pm http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.foster-parents/msg/2d04c26b08f9f2b9?&hl=en Sep 21 2001, 12:08 pm http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/msg/1053fa8 cf6b86a18?hl=en& I have some questions for you Dan Sullivan! You might recognize some of them! DAN SULLIVAN'S DAUGHTER SAID "My daddy touched me with the puppet bear in the toilet." Was your daughter telling a LIE when she said this? Were you telling a lie when you POSTED THIS, Dan? Did the caseworkers whack off to your daughter's "credible evidence" Dan? You touched your own little girl, didn't you Dan? And you were FOUNDED for it but later you got them to UNFOUND it, right? Was there credible evidence that you touched your little girl in the bathroom? Did you use your bare hands Dan? Where was the little girl's mother during this? Did the little girl's mother know you were doing this? Did you hand your little girl a TOWEL afterwards? What state of undress were you in when you touched her? Why did you need to be in the bathroom when your little girl was in there? How old was she when you did this to your own little girl? How many times did you do this Dan? When a person reverses a FOUNDED decision does that DISPROVE the accusation, Dan? Did you ever hear the caseworker expressions: "Unfounded doesn't mean untrue." or "Children don't lie." ? How old was your daughter when you did this Dan? > How old was your daughter when you did this Dan? Gregg Hanson 401 7 Ave SW Cedar Rapids, IA 52404 (319) 550-1421 Check his criminal record at http://www.iowacourts.state.ia.us/ESAWebApp/DefaultFrame Greg S Hanson DOB 05/22/1959 Linn County >> How old was your daughter when you did this Dan? > > Gregg Hanson > 401 7 Ave SW I hope you realize that of some harm would come to a person at that address - that YOU would be criminally liable? Let's say somebody acted on your posts and harmed somebody there. You DO realize that YOU could be charged with a criminal act? Or are you so stupid that you don't believe you can be? It seems you ARE soliciting for someboldy to do that! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>> How old was your daughter when you did this Dan? >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >charged with a criminal act? Or are you so stupid that you don't believe you >can be? It seems you ARE soliciting for someboldy to do that! LOL....this is funny, coming from you, 16 minutes after your own posting of what you allege is my home address, soliciting someone to throw acid in my face. You give new meaning to the word "irony," to say the least.... http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com JAILHOUSE LAWYER DAVID DORK MOORE > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>> How old was your daughter when you did this Dan? >>> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > what you allege is my home address, soliciting someone to throw acid in my > face. Davey talk about breaking the irony meter. My post was in response to YOUR hysterical appeal to ANYONE to harm my wife for you. I merely replaced my address with yours. Since YOU initiated the CALL for violence you are hardly in a position to WHINE if it backs up on you. But you ARE the internet's chief SISSY! > "assmonkey" <mehitabl...@gmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > charged with a criminal act? Or are you so stupid that you don't believe you > can be? It seems you ARE soliciting for someboldy to do that! Really? Are you threatening gregg kennie? What are you planing? Are you going to call him on the phone? At his home number which he boasted right here was public?? ooooooohhhhhhhh Thats harsh! Don't do it!!! > > "assmonkey" <mehitabl...@gmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > boasted right here was public?? ooooooohhhhhhhh Thats harsh! Don't do > it!!! It looks like your the one suggesting things kennie, samatter, you and greggie have a lovers quarrel? >> >> How old was your daughter when you did this Dan? >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> you >> can be? It seems you ARE soliciting for someboldy to do that! > Really? Are you threatening gregg kennie? What are you planing? Are > you going to call him on the phone? At his home number which he > boasted right here was public?? ooooooohhhhhhhh Thats harsh! Don't do > it!!! Why would *I* do that Assmonkey? More like you and your pals doing that kind of stuff. Hi Dan! > Yes. We know that there are bad people everywhere gregg, yourself > included. Just what is the point of your post? To tell us something we > already knew? To educate the masses about the fact that child abuse and > neglect does not have a "class", an "income", or a "color"? I love that you brought up that old saw again. Your buddy Donald Fisher the former CASEWORKER who concealed that fact, remember him? When claims were made about how CPS DOES tend to pick on people who are not rich enough to hire a dream team of lawyers and kick their a.s in court? He claimed that poor people abuse kids more! So tell me Ron, do you believe in the socio-economic connection or not? Do you actually disagree with your former CASEWORKER buddy on that point? I just LOVE arguments where one of you "system sucks" loses either way! > > Yes. We know that there are bad people everywhere gregg, yourself > > included. Just what is the point of your post? To tell us something we [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Your buddy Donald Fisher the former CASEWORKER > who concealed that fact, remember him? Caseworker? You know that's not true, Greg, you twice convicted wife abuser, and founded child abuser. See what I called you? THAT'S accurate and true. > When claims were made about how CPS DOES > tend to pick on people who are not rich enough [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > I just LOVE arguments where one of you "system sucks" > loses either way! Greg misses the point as usual. Just because abuse may be more prevalent in one group than another doesn't mean it doesn't exist in all the others. Ronald Van Dyne (Omaha Foster) wrote > Yes. We know that there are bad people everywhere gregg, yourself > included. Just what is the point of your post? To tell us something we > already knew? To educate the masses about the fact that child abuse and > neglect does not have a "class", an "income", or a "color"? G > I love that you brought up that old saw again. G > Your buddy Donald Fisher the former CASEWORKER G > who concealed that fact, remember him? DS > Caseworker? DS > You know that's not true, Greg, you twice DS > convicted wife abuser, and founded child abuser. DS > See what I called you? DS > THAT'S accurate and true. G > When claims were made about how CPS DOES G > tend to pick on people who are not rich enough G > to hire a dream team of lawyers and kick their a.s in court? G > He claimed that poor people abuse kids more! G > So tell me Ron, do you believe in the socio-economic G > connection or not? G > Do you actually disagree with your former G > CASEWORKER buddy on that point? G > I just LOVE arguments where one of you "system sucks" G > loses either way! DS > Greg misses the point as usual. DS > Just because abuse may be more prevalent in DS > one group than another doesn't mean it DS > doesn't exist in all the others. So just because kids DIE at four times the normal rate in state care doesn't mean natural parents aren't killing their kids right? Which CPS office are you working out of Dan? Or do you prefer Oliver Sutton? > Ronald Van Dyne (Omaha Foster) wrote > [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > Which CPS office are you working out of Dan? > Or do you prefer Oliver Sutton? I'd prefer you taking your sh.t disturbing attitude and go away. G > So just because kids DIE at four times the normal rate G > in state care doesn't mean natural parents aren't killing G > their kids right? G > Which CPS office are you working out of Dan? G > Or do you prefer Oliver Sutton? FM > I'd prefer you taking your sh.t disturbing attitude and go away. Why is Firemonkey answering for Dan? Does Firemonkey speak for you Dan? > G > So just because kids DIE at four times the normal rate > G > in state care doesn't mean natural parents aren't killing [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Why is Firemonkey answering for Dan? > Does Firemonkey speak for you Dan? Greg, are you incapable of responding to me? Or FM, too? > > G > So just because kids DIE at four times the normal rate > > G > in state care doesn't mean natural parents aren't killing [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Or FM, too? Does the following look like something for Firemonkey to answer? G > Which CPS office are you working out of Dan? G > Or do you prefer Oliver Sutton? Firemonkey answered FOR you, Dan. Does FM speak for you? > > > G > So just because kids DIE at four times the normal rate > > > G > in state care doesn't mean natural parents aren't killing [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Firemonkey answered FOR you, Dan. > Does FM speak for you? FM didn't answer what you asked, Greg. She simply commented on your overall moronic approach "I'd prefer you taking your sh.t disturbing attitude and go away." I'll tell you one thing, Greg, if I did work for CPS I'd call your local CPS and ask, as a professional courtesy, that they nail your a.s to the Courthouse wall so everyone in Iowa could see what a true child abuser looks like. Maybe it'd make Utube!!! You screaming and yelling "The mother told me I could spank her. The mother told me I could force her to take cold showers. The mother told me I could go into the bathroom with a towel every time she finished showering." "I even bought her a pair of SNEAKERS!!!!" "That's the kind of guy I am!!!" "I even drove her around to go dumpster diving!!! I could have made her walk!" What did I miss, Greg? > > G > Which CPS office are you working out of Dan? > > G > Or do you prefer Oliver Sutton? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > FM didn't answer what you asked, Greg. Again, does Firemonkey speak FOR YOU Dan? G > Which CPS office are you working out of Dan? G > Or do you prefer Oliver Sutton? Would YOU please answer the question Dan Sullivan? DS > She simply commented on your overall DS > moronic approach "I'd prefer you taking DS > your sh.t disturbing attitude and go away." DS > I'll tell you one thing, Greg, if I did work DS > for CPS I'd call your local CPS and ask, DS > as a professional courtesy, that they nail DS > your a.s to the Courthouse wall so DS > everyone in Iowa could see what a true DS > child abuser looks like. DS > Maybe it'd make Utube!!! DS > You screaming and yelling "The mother DS > told me I could spank her. The mother DS > told me I could force her to take cold DS > showers. The mother told me I could DS > go into the bathroom with a towel every DS > time she finished showering." DS > "I even bought her a pair of SNEAKERS!!!!" DS > "That's the kind of guy I am!!!" DS > "I even drove her around to go dumpster diving!!! DS > I could have made her walk!" DS > What did I miss, Greg? Dan thinks a "real child abuser" is convicted by innuendo. On the other hand, that IS just about the standard used in "dependency" (Child Protection) court. > DS > She simply commented on your overall > DS > moronic approach "I'd prefer you taking [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Dan thinks a "real child abuser" is convicted by innuendo. You are a real child abuser, Greg, and you were founded based on your own admissions. > On the other hand, that IS just about the standard > used in "dependency" (Child Protection) court. There ya go!!! G > Dan thinks a "real child abuser" is convicted by innuendo. Right Dan? > G > Dan thinks a "real child abuser" is convicted by innuendo. > > Right Dan? GFYS, Greg. G > Dan thinks a "real child abuser" is convicted by innuendo. G > Right Dan? DS > GFYS, Greg. ROFL! > G > Dan thinks a "real child abuser" is convicted by innuendo. > G > Right Dan? > DS > GFYS, Greg. > > ROFL! At least something in your pathetic life makes you laugh, Greg. . > > G > Dan thinks a "real child abuser" is convicted by innuendo. > > G > Right Dan? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > At least something in your pathetic life makes you laugh, Greg. . Poetic, isn't it? >>> G > Dan thinks a "real child abuser" is convicted by innuendo. >>> G > Right Dan? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Poetic, isn't it? Was that Poetic, or Pathetic?? G > Dan thinks a "real child abuser" is convicted by innuendo. G > Right Dan? DS > GFYS, Greg. G >ROFL! DS > At least something in your pathetic life makes you laugh, Greg. . FM > Poetic, isn't it? KL > Was that Poetic, or Pathetic?? Dan's a regular Nifong! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Nifong > G > Dan thinks a "real child abuser" is convicted by innuendo. > G > Right Dan? [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Nifong What was I convicted of, Greg? I'm waiting for your post on that subject. G > Dan thinks a "real child abuser" is convicted by innuendo. G > Right Dan? DS > GFYS, Greg. G >ROFL! DS > At least something in your pathetic life makes you laugh, Greg. FM > Poetic, isn't it? KL > Was that Poetic, or Pathetic?? G > Dan's a regular Nifong! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Nifong DS > What was I convicted of, Greg? DS > I'm waiting for your post on that subject. Nifong was a PROSECUTOR who blustered a LOT but had NO CASE! > G > Dan thinks a "real child abuser" is convicted by innuendo. > G > Right Dan? [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Nifong was a PROSECUTOR who > blustered a LOT but had NO CASE! gregg is a regular pile of feces http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feces feces is, well,. you know FM > gregg is a regular pile of feces A veritable fountain of scatological discourse! > G > Dan thinks a "real child abuser" is convicted by innuendo. > G > Right Dan? [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Nifong was a PROSECUTOR who > blustered a LOT but had NO CASE! Obviously there was enough credible evidence of your mistreatment of Lisa Watkins' daughter to keep her from her mother since February of 2001. Sounds like a pretty good case to me. |
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