A Crying Shame. The steeply rising costs of adoption in Canada.
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kippaherring@hotmail.com - 19 Apr 2008 22:53 GMT Get this quote. "Money isn't an issue. We're young, we have a nice house and cottage -- we're everything any birth mother would desire. We can provide a great life for a child, and it's just not happening for us."
http://www.financialpost.com/money/story.html?id=456035
A crying shame Sarah Treleaven, Financial Post Published: Saturday, April 19, 2000 This first in a two-part series looks at the steeply rising costs of adoption. Next Saturday, the costs of surrogacy.
Perfect-looking families stare out from online profiles on private adoption sites, pleading to provide a home for someone else's biological child. Couples view video clips of a four-year-old born to a drug-dependent mother, puzzling over whether she will be the right fit for their family. And then there are those who literally travel to opposite ends of the Earth to pick up a son or daughter they've only seen in a photograph.
The picture of adoption in Canada includes multiple images. While there are three options for adoption in Canada--public, private domestic and international -- the system is far from simple to navigate. It is characterized by copious paperwork, lengthy wait times, few guarantees and -- in the case of private and international adoption -- extremely steep fees.
While there are currently no fees associated with public adoption through a Children's Aid Society, the cost for private and international adoptions can range from $10,000 to $50,000.
Prospective parents often start by paying for a mandatory homestudy, which determines if prospective parents and their environment are suitable for a child, and sometimes a parent training course. Additional expenses can include counseling costs for the child's biological family, legal fees (for facilitation by licensees, citizenship processing or name changes), oversight fees for adoption practitioners, travel expenses (including hotels, flights, incountry costs and visas), private agency fees and finally -- in the case of private domestic adoption -- the costs of marketing oneself as the ideal couple.
In the private domestic system, prospective adoptive parents create online profiles, print business cards and publish small books in an attempt to sell themselves to provincial adoption agencies and birth mothers. According to Sarah Pederson, program manager at Ottawa's Adoption Council of Canada, the administrative steps and expenses are wide ranging and guidelines are generally set by the provincial or territorial Ministry of Children and Youth Services.
The wait times for private adoption can be excruciating and control is wrenched out of the hands of applicants as they wait to be picked by a young woman who gleans from a picture and a few short paragraphs that they just might be the perfect family for the baby she cannot keep.
Denice GrantSmith and her husband, Lewis, are trying to arrange a private domestic adoption by posting on Web sites such as Canada Adopts!, and pushing their parent profiles to agencies. Ms. GrantSmith, herself an adoptee, says that they have spent $6,000 to $7,000 to date on a homestudy, Web site development, agency registration and the printing of profiles. For the entire process, she expects to pay "$20,000 at least," once parent-training classes, counselling and legal fees, and agency fees have been factored in.
In the public system, it is the kids who must be marketed to prospective parents. They are typically older, classified as high need and have often been removed from a negligent environment. Virginia Rowden, director of social policy at Ontario Association of Children's Aid Societies (OACAS), says that there are at least 9,000 children in Ontario alone available for adoption. Even up against the projected expenses for private and international adoption, these children are often the hardest to place.
And the odds of placement might soon get even slimmer. Pending legislation in Ontario would require future adoptive parents to pay out-of-pocket for a lawyer to finalize their child's adoption. "Unless a fund is established to pay legal costs, free adoption services in Ontario will cease," says Marcelo Gomez-Wiuckstern, director of communications for OACAS.
Then there are international adoptions. These are generally facilitated through an international adoption agency and the requirements and expense can vary widely depending on the child's country of origin.
After two high-risk pregnancies that resulted in emergency Cesarean sections, Maike McCaskell and her husband decided to adopt a
third child through international channels. Two years after starting the application process, Ms. McCaskell and her mother-in-law flew to China in August, 2004, to pick up a 10-month-old baby girl. Within an hour of landing in Guangdong province, Ms. McCaskell was holding her new daughter.
"I know that people don't necessarily believe me, but it's the exact same thing as when you give birth and they put the baby in your arms," Ms. McCaskell says.
The McCaskells estimate that they spent a total of $25,000 to $27,000 on the adoption of their daughter. In addition to the homestudy, physicals, police checks and agency fees, the Mc-Caskells also paid for the translation of all of their documents and sundry government fees. Ms. McCaskell was required to stay in China for two weeks, and she estimates that the expenses related to the trip cost her $7,000.
Michael Blugerman, an adoption practitioner in Toronto, says that China is one of the least-expensive countries of origin for foreign adoptions, averaging $23,000, including travel and incountry costs. In other countries, most notably Russia, the expense can be closer to $45,000 --not including personal expenses.
Cathy Murphy, director of adoption services and acting executive director of Children's Bridge international adoption agency, says that mandatory incountry stays vary significantly -- from two weeks in China to eight weeks in Kazakhstan.
The high cost of adopting from a foreign country prompted the National Bank of Canada to introduce the International Adoption Financial Package 10 years ago. According to Citizenship and Immigration Canada, inter-country adoption has been declining since 2003. But Linda Sefc, NBC regional manager, says that the loan program has been increasing in popularity, and that the average amount borrowed is $35,000 to $50,000.
Even for couples with deep pockets, the adoption process can quickly wear them down. Money can buy few guarantees. The private system in Canada is suffering from a tremendous shortage of available newborns; fewer than 100 private adoptions were completed last year from the pool of hundreds, if not thousands, of couples waiting to adopt.
The wait times for international adoption average two to three years, according to Ms. Murphy. But Mr. Blugerman says that the popular China program is now a four-to five-year wait, and the landscape is constantly changing. "The most active new area is Africa -- particularly Ethiopia and South Africa. I think [the wait] could be under a year. Some, like Korea, have slowed down to a dribble. There's more of a nationalistic fervour everywhere. The first principle is that these kids should be raised in their own country."
But with a dearth of newborns available for domestic adoption, an unpredictable international adoption system and reluctance on the part of parents to take on children through the public system who might require special care, frustration over the inability to build a family is mounting. Regardless of resources, some parents worry that they could be waiting forever for a child.
Laura, who asked that her real name not be used, has been waiting to adopt a baby through private Ontario channels for two years. "There's nothing you can do other than wait," she says. "Money isn't an issue. We're young, we have a nice house and cottage -- we're everything any birth mother would desire. We can provide a great life for a child, and it's just not happening for us."
J. - 20 Apr 2008 01:50 GMT On Apr 19, 4:53�pm, kippaherr...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Get this quote. "Money isn't an issue. We're young, we have a nice > house and cottage -- we're everything any birth mother would desire. [quoted text clipped - 149 lines] > birth mother would desire. We can provide a great life for a child, > and it's just not happening for us." Will someone please explain to me how a legitimate private domestic adoption can run $50,000? Seriously, what kind of costs and profit margin are we talking about here?
J.
kippaherring@hotmail.com - 21 Apr 2008 18:56 GMT > On Apr 19, 4:53�pm, kippaherr...@hotmail.com wrote: > > Will someone please explain to me how a legitimate private domestic > adoption can run $50,000? Seriously, what kind of costs and profit > margin are we talking about here?
> J. Beats me, J. I've read $10,000 - $30,000 elsewhere (Canadadopts, I think), but we have free health care here so that can't be part of it.The mind boggles. Man, this is such an icky article.If there are people out there who still believe adoption isn't commodified to the hilt up they should read and deconstruct this.
Marley Greiner - 22 Apr 2008 06:22 GMT On Apr 19, 8:50 pm, "J." <jmd...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Apr 19, 4:53?pm, kippaherr...@hotmail.com wrote: > > Will someone please explain to me how a legitimate private domestic > adoption can run $50,000? Seriously, what kind of costs and profit > margin are we talking about here?
> J. Beats me, J. I've read $10,000 - $30,000 elsewhere (Canadadopts, I think), but we have free health care here so that can't be part of it.The mind boggles. Man, this is such an icky article.If there are people out there who still believe adoption isn't commodified to the hilt up they should read and deconstruct this.
They sound like they're looking for a new couch:
>Couples view video clips of a four-year-old born to >a drug-dependent mother, puzzling over whether she will be the right >fit for their family. And then there are those who literally travel to >opposite ends of the Earth to pick up a son or daughter they've only >seen in a photograph. Marley
Bianca - 25 Apr 2008 13:30 GMT > fit for their family. And then there are those who literally travel to > opposite ends of the Earth to pick up a son or daughter they've only > seen in a photograph. "they've seen in a photograph"??? No way! Is that legal? We aren't allowed to see pictures of the children we adopt before we adopt them! How doo they get pictures of the kids?!
Robibnikoff - 25 Apr 2008 14:06 GMT >> fit for their family. And then there are those who literally travel to >> opposite ends of the Earth to pick up a son or daughter they've only [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > to see pictures of the children we adopt before we adopt them! How doo > they get pictures of the kids?! Excuse me? Isn't that the norm in foreign adoptions?
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Bianca - 25 Apr 2008 18:55 GMT > Excuse me? Isn't that the norm in foreign adoptions? No Robyn. We way it works is we make ourselves available to welcome a kid within a crertain age bracket (0-7, 7-teen, teen-up, no more than that) and can specify if we are willing to accept serious sicknesses (I gave out "reversible illnesses: that means things that you can work on, can fix with proper medicine and care, operations. Couldn't face Down's sindrome, or serious mental illness). When you are called and they tell you there is a child waiting for you in Russia or Gabon or whereever you go, they tell you his/her story, give you the medical history (a rough outline) and off you go. You see your child when you're there. How can you choose a child with a picture??
Robibnikoff - 25 Apr 2008 20:32 GMT >> Excuse me? Isn't that the norm in foreign adoptions? > No Robyn. We way it works is we make ourselves available to welcome a kid [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > you go. You see your child when you're there. How can you choose a child > with a picture?? I don't know, but I know people that adopted babies from China that saw a picture before they saw the baby in person.
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Bianca - 25 Apr 2008 22:18 GMT > I don't know, but I know people that adopted babies from China that saw a > picture before they saw the baby in person. China didn't sign the Hague Convention, and we can't adopt from there yet. If you think about it... why SHOULD couples see pictures before agreeing to adopt. If you have a baby biologically it's not as if you see a picture before you get pregnant and agree then to go on with the pregnancy. The baby you have is the baby you get, no choice, thank God. And a picture shouldn't really make any difference. In some cases, you may be given a picture after you've signed before a notary agreeing to adopting that child, and right before meeting the child. But not before you've agreed and signed. Imagine a child's picture beeing passed around to dozens of couples. Terrible! :-(
Robibnikoff - 25 Apr 2008 22:29 GMT >> I don't know, but I know people that adopted babies from China that saw a >> picture before they saw the baby in person. > > China didn't sign the Hague Convention, and we can't adopt from there yet. Um, okay.
> If you think about it... why SHOULD couples see pictures before agreeing > to adopt. I don't really see what the big deal is. Then again, adopting a child isn't something I've ever thought about.
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Julia Rollings - 25 Apr 2008 22:36 GMT >> fit for their family. And then there are those who literally travel to >> opposite ends of the Earth to pick up a son or daughter they've only [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >to see pictures of the children we adopt before we adopt them! How doo they >get pictures of the kids?! I received a photo of each of my six children, along with their allocation paperwork. For my three children who were "waiting children" (i.e. there had been nobody on the lists of prospective parents who were willing to adopt them, due to the children's ages, sibling status and/or disabilities) I received their photos when I expressed interest in adopting those particular children.
It is the norm to receive a photo at allocation in most countries. My children were born in South Korea, Taiwan and India, but I know friends who adopted from many other countries (Thailand, the Philippines, Ethiopia, China, Brazil, Fiji) also received photos at the time they received their children's details. Usually you are not handed the photo until you accept the assignment of that particular child, based on the paperwork description of the child, and sign the documents saying you accept that child.
I don't see how it could hurt to receive a photo, and for me it was a vital link to the older child I was about to commit to for life (and, in the case of India, was going to have to wait over a year to meet). It helped me to become attached to the image of that child, in the same way I felt an emotional attachment to my daughter's ultrasound image.
Julia
J. - 25 Apr 2008 23:36 GMT > >> fit for their family. And then there are those who literally travel to > >> opposite ends of the Earth to pick up a son or daughter they've only [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Julia We, too, received photos of our son on referral. I didn't (and don't) see any problem with it. In fact, I can't imagine accepting a referral without having seen a photo of the child, particularly given the sterling reputation of international adoption at the time ('92). It was five months before we actually met him and another eight or more before he came to the States. I'm not sure I would have stuck with it the first five months without those photos.
J.
Bianca - 26 Apr 2008 19:30 GMT >It was five months before we actually met him and another eight or >more before he came to the States. I'm not sure I would have stuck >with it the first five months without those photos. Why? I mean, why is the photo that important?
Julia Rollings - 26 Apr 2008 21:49 GMT >>It was five months before we actually met him and another eight or >>more before he came to the States. I'm not sure I would have stuck >>with it the first five months without those photos. > >Why? I mean, why is the photo that important? For myself, the photos of my son and daughter helped me cope with the 19 months I had to wait from accepting the referral of my children to actually meeting them. In that time we were notified that my son had a condition (a very enlarged spleen and liver) that could indicate a very serious, potentially fatal, underlying medical problem. The photo had made him "real" to us, and it helpted to keep us focussed on him as a person - not just on the idea of us having another son. Whenever I was finding the waiting time starting to overwhelm me, looking at his photo was enough to keep me going.
Yes, we could have done it without a photo - but what would have been gained by withholding it?
Julia
Bianca - 26 Apr 2008 21:57 GMT >>It was five months before we actually met him and another eight or >>more before he came to the States. I'm not sure I would have stuck >>with it the first five months without those photos. > > Why? I mean, why is the photo that important? Sorry, too short! What I mean is: Wouldn't you have adopted anyway, even without seeing your child? Does it make such a difference? I can't really see that..
Robibnikoff - 28 Apr 2008 00:15 GMT >>It was five months before we actually met him and another eight or >>more before he came to the States. I'm not sure I would have stuck >>with it the first five months without those photos. > > Why? I mean, why is the photo that important? Why do you think it's not? I mean, my aparents couldn't have a photo of me prior to the adoption because I wasn't born yet, but I'm sure they would have loved to have had one.
I had a picture of my dog before I adopted her ;)
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Bianca - 28 Apr 2008 21:17 GMT > I had a picture of my dog before I adopted her ;) ROTFL!! :-D there you go...! QoD :)
Robibnikoff - 28 Apr 2008 21:32 GMT >> I had a picture of my dog before I adopted her ;) > > ROTFL!! :-D > there you go...! QoD :) Yep, she's the buff colored one right in the middle of the second picture :)
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Robibnikoff - 28 Apr 2008 21:33 GMT >> I had a picture of my dog before I adopted her ;) > > ROTFL!! :-D > there you go...! QoD :) sh.t, did I forget the URL?
http://www.purrsnpups.org/
2nd picture, puppy right in the middle, front row.
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Steve White - 27 Apr 2008 01:12 GMT In article <1e77082b-6a43-4b44-afc3-e2d248325b54@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
> Will someone please explain to me how a legitimate private domestic > adoption can run $50,000? Seriously, what kind of costs and profit > margin are we talking about here? Facilitators have to get paid, you know.
steve
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