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Chosen Children: Absolutely stunning,  a must read for every one...

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fx - 02 Jul 2008 00:08 GMT
Chosen Children

Billion Dollar Babies in America's Foster Care, Adoption & Prison Systems

http://www.thechosenchildren.com/ebooks/chosen.pdf

 Chosen Children is in 3 parts - Part I: The Problems--identifies the
issues and follows the dollars to identify special interests; Part II:
The Alternatives--identifies programs that work; Part III: The Chosen
Children--identifies the victims and includes true case histories and
in-depth stories of hundreds of incarcerated adoptees to reveal what
makes their crimes unique...(the "why").

"True crime" books sensationalize the crime (the "what"), while Chosen
Children provides the stories behind the stories (the "why"). The
author, who has visited prisons, found an overrepresentation of adoptees
among the 2-million who are incarcerated nationwide. She has researched
hundreds of these adoptees from interviews, records, and correspondence
and reunited many of them with their families. The book gives them a
face and a voice for the first time, to show how the Foster Care and
Adoption industries fuels the Prison industry and vice-versa.

The number of case histories in Chosen Children is the largest ever
compiled in one book, and they are supported by excerpted newsclips,
extensive data with sources and in-depth first-person narratives by
incarcerated adoptees, including Michael Getty, Tom McGee, Greg Mox,
Kevin Smith, Noah Stone, Harold Williams, Jeremy Strohmeyer, to name
just a few. They are thieves, drug addicts, murderers, gang members, sex
offenders--all linked by their adoption-related behaviors and broken
birth bonds....the "billion dollar babies" in America's foster care,
adoption and prison systems.

For further information, see article, "Killer Adoptees: Don't Shoot the
Messenger" at:
http://www.adopting.org/adoptions/killer-adoptees-dont-shoot-the-messenger.html

New Business News article about this Web Page -
http://www.newbusinessnews.com/story/01070101.html

http://www.thechosenchildren.com/

http://www.thechosenchildren.com/ebooks/chosen.pdf
Marley - 02 Jul 2008 02:25 GMT
Every time I hear about killer adoptees I go for my gun.

Marley

> Chosen Children
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Steve  White - 02 Jul 2008 04:56 GMT
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<dc40c847-cf1e-4e80-b81b-de8164468401@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,

> Every time I hear about killer adoptees I go for my gun.

Fortunately you're still allowed to own one.

steve
Marley - 02 Jul 2008 06:25 GMT
> In article
> <dc40c847-cf1e-4e80-b81b-de8164468...@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
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> steve

The USSC did something useful for once  Now they just need to get rid
of licsensing--or however it's spelled.

Marley
Julia Rollings - 02 Jul 2008 10:27 GMT
>In article
><dc40c847-cf1e-4e80-b81b-de8164468401@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
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>steve

Own what - a killer adoptee or a gun?

Julia  (who likes living in a country with few guns or killer
adoptees)
rkbose@pacific.net.sg - 02 Jul 2008 16:20 GMT
> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:56:00 -0500, Steve  White <st...@spam.me.never>
> wrote:
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> Julia  (who likes living in a country with few guns or killer
> adoptees)

Clearly Oz adoptees are deprived of their birthright.
kippaherring@hotmail.com - 03 Jul 2008 10:49 GMT
It makes such a lot of of sense that a nation that gives its citizens
the right to deprive bears of their arms would also deny adopted
people knowledge of their origins and their OBCs.
Julia Rollings - 03 Jul 2008 14:21 GMT
>It makes such a lot of of sense that a nation that gives its citizens
>the right to deprive bears of their arms would also deny adopted
>people knowledge of their origins and their OBCs.

Here we have very few arms and no bears of any kind so we don't have a
hope in hell of arming bears, but adoptees can access their birth info
and we all have bare arms in summer.

Julia
J. - 02 Jul 2008 13:23 GMT
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> <dc40c847-cf1e-4e80-b81b-de8164468...@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
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>
> steve

We all should have a black powder musket and a horn of dry powder.
It's what the framers wanted.

J.
Steve  White - 05 Jul 2008 02:50 GMT
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> > In article
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> J.

Or a set of dueling pistols. Think how much more polite society would be
:-)

steve
kippaherring@hotmail.com - 05 Jul 2008 14:41 GMT
> Or a set of dueling pistols. Think how much more polite society would be
> :-)

Purses at five paces :-)
rkbose@pacific.net.sg - 02 Jul 2008 08:22 GMT
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> http://www.thechosenchildren.com/ebooks/chosen.pdf

I didn't realize Lori Carangelo was a b-mom. I had the impression she
was the person who came on here and said she had studied adoption but
wasn't directly involved. Or am I thoroughly confused?
J. - 02 Jul 2008 13:20 GMT
On Jul 2, 2:22�am, "rkb...@pacific.net.sg" <rkb...@pacific.net.sg>
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> > Chosen Children
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> was the person who came on here and said she had studied adoption but
> wasn't directly involved. Or am I thoroughly confused?

I think you're confusing Lori with the high school student who wrote a
paper on adoption and began convinced it was evil incarnate.  She's
still at it, although my aging brain can't recall her name at the
moment.  It will come to me as soon as I post this.

J.
kippaherring@hotmail.com - 02 Jul 2008 15:00 GMT
> On Jul 2, 2:22�am, "rkb...@pacific.net.sg" <rkb...@pacific.net.sg>
> wrote:
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> still at it, although my aging brain can't recall her name at the
> moment.  It will come to me as soon as I post this.

Might you not be thinking of little Jess DelBalzo, who, among other
memorable tracts, wrote 'Why I'm not giving up my baby'? Not that she
was under any pressure to do so, mind you.

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rkbose@pacific.net.sg - 02 Jul 2008 16:19 GMT
On Jul 2, 7:00 am, kippaherr...@hotmail.com wrote:

> > On Jul 2, 2:22�am, "rkb...@pacific.net.sg" <rkb...@pacific.net.sg>
> > wrote:
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> memorable tracts, wrote 'Why I'm not giving up my baby'? Not that she
> was under any pressure to do so, mind you.

That's it. I think it's my aging brain.
Then again, I managed to be pretty confused even when I was a lot
younger.
Greegor - 03 Jul 2008 11:43 GMT
Is your only means to cope with these stats to laugh them off?

The ""Child Protection"" INDUSTRY has lied
about outcomes for years.  For some reason
in the last few years they have lost their ability
to manipulate the stats to their advantage.

There are several respected studies which show
that outcomes from Foster/Adoption have
been less rosey than what the Child Protection
INDUSTRY propagandized for years.

After CAPTA and the whole CPS meat grinder,
aren't you seeing more and more adoptees
who were involuntarily TERMINATED from
their parents by the system?

Just imagine the brainwashing potential
to LIE to them once all contact with
parents is cut off...

Do they turn 18 actually believing the story
the a-parents and the caseworkers told them?

Are they allowed full access to the entire
(thick) Juvenile Court and Termination hearing
transcript when they are 18?

What a surprise it must be to find out that
the birth parents fought like HELL to keep
them, while the shills for the system told
them the birth parents just didn't love them...

As somebody who watched a hearing process
where the state attempted to terminate
parental rights but FAILED to meet the burden
of proof, I can say that it's basically a "railroad job".

Clearly the caseworkers are used to winning at
that process, their angry hissy fits made that clear.

I don't for one minute believe that if they
had terminated parental rights that these
malicious, vindictive people would in any
way be fair to the birth parents they
so villified with lies, exaggeration and
agency power games.

If a kid was put up for adoption way back
in the 1950's VOLUNTARILY, it's a whole
different situation than the flood of
adoptees basically stolen from families
using the corrupt system since
Mondale's CAPTA got rolling.  (He regrets it!)
kippaherring@hotmail.com - 04 Jul 2008 09:24 GMT
> Is your only means to cope with these stats to laugh them off?

My responses on this thread have been steeped to the gills in serious
purpose.
It's the slippery slope, don'tcha know?. Today, arms. Tomorrow, legs.
Where is your concern for our Brothers Bruin?
Steve  White - 05 Jul 2008 02:51 GMT
In article
<135972e7-a393-456d-b645-1c92854994d5@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,

> Might you not be thinking of little Jess DelBalzo, who, among other
> memorable tracts, wrote 'Why I'm not giving up my baby'? Not that she
> was under any pressure to do so, mind you.

Yup, Jessica DeBabbles

steve
Marley Greiner - 04 Jul 2008 12:25 GMT
>> Chosen Children
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> was the person who came on here and said she had studied adoption but
> wasn't directly involved. Or am I thoroughly confused?

Two of 'em.

Marley
Lilmtncbn - 04 Jul 2008 07:42 GMT
>>Chosen Children: Absolutely stunning, a must read for every one...

Oh dear, it's that time of year again.

Who let her back in here?
Lilmtncbn - 04 Jul 2008 07:42 GMT
>>Chosen Children: Absolutely stunning, a must read for every one...

Oh dear, it's that time of year again.

Who let her back in here?
 
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