Chosen Children: Absolutely stunning, a must read for every one...
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fx - 02 Jul 2008 00:08 GMT Chosen Children
Billion Dollar Babies in America's Foster Care, Adoption & Prison Systems
http://www.thechosenchildren.com/ebooks/chosen.pdf
Chosen Children is in 3 parts - Part I: The Problems--identifies the issues and follows the dollars to identify special interests; Part II: The Alternatives--identifies programs that work; Part III: The Chosen Children--identifies the victims and includes true case histories and in-depth stories of hundreds of incarcerated adoptees to reveal what makes their crimes unique...(the "why").
"True crime" books sensationalize the crime (the "what"), while Chosen Children provides the stories behind the stories (the "why"). The author, who has visited prisons, found an overrepresentation of adoptees among the 2-million who are incarcerated nationwide. She has researched hundreds of these adoptees from interviews, records, and correspondence and reunited many of them with their families. The book gives them a face and a voice for the first time, to show how the Foster Care and Adoption industries fuels the Prison industry and vice-versa.
The number of case histories in Chosen Children is the largest ever compiled in one book, and they are supported by excerpted newsclips, extensive data with sources and in-depth first-person narratives by incarcerated adoptees, including Michael Getty, Tom McGee, Greg Mox, Kevin Smith, Noah Stone, Harold Williams, Jeremy Strohmeyer, to name just a few. They are thieves, drug addicts, murderers, gang members, sex offenders--all linked by their adoption-related behaviors and broken birth bonds....the "billion dollar babies" in America's foster care, adoption and prison systems.
For further information, see article, "Killer Adoptees: Don't Shoot the Messenger" at: http://www.adopting.org/adoptions/killer-adoptees-dont-shoot-the-messenger.html
New Business News article about this Web Page - http://www.newbusinessnews.com/story/01070101.html
http://www.thechosenchildren.com/
http://www.thechosenchildren.com/ebooks/chosen.pdf
Marley - 02 Jul 2008 02:25 GMT Every time I hear about killer adoptees I go for my gun.
Marley
> Chosen Children > [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > http://www.thechosenchildren.com/ebooks/chosen.pdf Steve White - 02 Jul 2008 04:56 GMT In article <dc40c847-cf1e-4e80-b81b-de8164468401@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
> Every time I hear about killer adoptees I go for my gun. Fortunately you're still allowed to own one.
steve
Marley - 02 Jul 2008 06:25 GMT > In article > <dc40c847-cf1e-4e80-b81b-de8164468...@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > steve The USSC did something useful for once Now they just need to get rid of licsensing--or however it's spelled.
Marley
Julia Rollings - 02 Jul 2008 10:27 GMT >In article ><dc40c847-cf1e-4e80-b81b-de8164468401@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >steve Own what - a killer adoptee or a gun?
Julia (who likes living in a country with few guns or killer adoptees)
rkbose@pacific.net.sg - 02 Jul 2008 16:20 GMT > On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:56:00 -0500, Steve White <st...@spam.me.never> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Julia (who likes living in a country with few guns or killer > adoptees) Clearly Oz adoptees are deprived of their birthright.
kippaherring@hotmail.com - 03 Jul 2008 10:49 GMT It makes such a lot of of sense that a nation that gives its citizens the right to deprive bears of their arms would also deny adopted people knowledge of their origins and their OBCs.
Julia Rollings - 03 Jul 2008 14:21 GMT >It makes such a lot of of sense that a nation that gives its citizens >the right to deprive bears of their arms would also deny adopted >people knowledge of their origins and their OBCs. Here we have very few arms and no bears of any kind so we don't have a hope in hell of arming bears, but adoptees can access their birth info and we all have bare arms in summer.
Julia
J. - 02 Jul 2008 13:23 GMT > In article > <dc40c847-cf1e-4e80-b81b-de8164468...@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > steve We all should have a black powder musket and a horn of dry powder. It's what the framers wanted.
J.
Steve White - 05 Jul 2008 02:50 GMT In article <705c7c86-6966-4f7a-88b3-a88e03c063f1@c65g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>,
> > In article > > <dc40c847-cf1e-4e80-b81b-de8164468...@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > J. Or a set of dueling pistols. Think how much more polite society would be
:-) steve
kippaherring@hotmail.com - 05 Jul 2008 14:41 GMT > Or a set of dueling pistols. Think how much more polite society would be > :-) Purses at five paces :-)
rkbose@pacific.net.sg - 02 Jul 2008 08:22 GMT > Chosen Children > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > http://www.thechosenchildren.com/ebooks/chosen.pdf I didn't realize Lori Carangelo was a b-mom. I had the impression she was the person who came on here and said she had studied adoption but wasn't directly involved. Or am I thoroughly confused?
J. - 02 Jul 2008 13:20 GMT On Jul 2, 2:22�am, "rkb...@pacific.net.sg" <rkb...@pacific.net.sg> wrote:
> > Chosen Children > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > was the person who came on here and said she had studied adoption but > wasn't directly involved. Or am I thoroughly confused? I think you're confusing Lori with the high school student who wrote a paper on adoption and began convinced it was evil incarnate. She's still at it, although my aging brain can't recall her name at the moment. It will come to me as soon as I post this.
J.
kippaherring@hotmail.com - 02 Jul 2008 15:00 GMT > On Jul 2, 2:22�am, "rkb...@pacific.net.sg" <rkb...@pacific.net.sg> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > still at it, although my aging brain can't recall her name at the > moment. It will come to me as soon as I post this. Might you not be thinking of little Jess DelBalzo, who, among other memorable tracts, wrote 'Why I'm not giving up my baby'? Not that she was under any pressure to do so, mind you.
> J.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - rkbose@pacific.net.sg - 02 Jul 2008 16:19 GMT On Jul 2, 7:00 am, kippaherr...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Jul 2, 2:22�am, "rkb...@pacific.net.sg" <rkb...@pacific.net.sg> > > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > memorable tracts, wrote 'Why I'm not giving up my baby'? Not that she > was under any pressure to do so, mind you. That's it. I think it's my aging brain. Then again, I managed to be pretty confused even when I was a lot younger.
Greegor - 03 Jul 2008 11:43 GMT Is your only means to cope with these stats to laugh them off?
The ""Child Protection"" INDUSTRY has lied about outcomes for years. For some reason in the last few years they have lost their ability to manipulate the stats to their advantage.
There are several respected studies which show that outcomes from Foster/Adoption have been less rosey than what the Child Protection INDUSTRY propagandized for years.
After CAPTA and the whole CPS meat grinder, aren't you seeing more and more adoptees who were involuntarily TERMINATED from their parents by the system?
Just imagine the brainwashing potential to LIE to them once all contact with parents is cut off...
Do they turn 18 actually believing the story the a-parents and the caseworkers told them?
Are they allowed full access to the entire (thick) Juvenile Court and Termination hearing transcript when they are 18?
What a surprise it must be to find out that the birth parents fought like HELL to keep them, while the shills for the system told them the birth parents just didn't love them...
As somebody who watched a hearing process where the state attempted to terminate parental rights but FAILED to meet the burden of proof, I can say that it's basically a "railroad job".
Clearly the caseworkers are used to winning at that process, their angry hissy fits made that clear.
I don't for one minute believe that if they had terminated parental rights that these malicious, vindictive people would in any way be fair to the birth parents they so villified with lies, exaggeration and agency power games.
If a kid was put up for adoption way back in the 1950's VOLUNTARILY, it's a whole different situation than the flood of adoptees basically stolen from families using the corrupt system since Mondale's CAPTA got rolling. (He regrets it!)
kippaherring@hotmail.com - 04 Jul 2008 09:24 GMT > Is your only means to cope with these stats to laugh them off? My responses on this thread have been steeped to the gills in serious purpose. It's the slippery slope, don'tcha know?. Today, arms. Tomorrow, legs. Where is your concern for our Brothers Bruin?
Steve White - 05 Jul 2008 02:51 GMT In article <135972e7-a393-456d-b645-1c92854994d5@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
> Might you not be thinking of little Jess DelBalzo, who, among other > memorable tracts, wrote 'Why I'm not giving up my baby'? Not that she > was under any pressure to do so, mind you. Yup, Jessica DeBabbles
steve
Marley Greiner - 04 Jul 2008 12:25 GMT >> Chosen Children >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > was the person who came on here and said she had studied adoption but > wasn't directly involved. Or am I thoroughly confused? Two of 'em.
Marley
Lilmtncbn - 04 Jul 2008 07:42 GMT >>Chosen Children: Absolutely stunning, a must read for every one... Oh dear, it's that time of year again.
Who let her back in here?
Lilmtncbn - 04 Jul 2008 07:42 GMT >>Chosen Children: Absolutely stunning, a must read for every one... Oh dear, it's that time of year again.
Who let her back in here?
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