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Family Forum / Parenting / Adoption / October 2008Children Are Responsible For Their Own Actions
The telephone ring; it's a call from your child's teacher. The teacher is calling to inform you that your child has been disrespectful and disruptive in school. You calmly listen to the comments being made about your child and wonder in awl. It's a fact children will be children regardless of where they are at. Over the years I've noticed how my own child has from time to time made me look and feel embarrass because of her actions. I have come to the conclusion to understand and realize she's responsible for her own actions. I can only enforce the ground rules and help correct my child's bad behavior with appropriate disciplinary action to convince her she's only causing harm to herself and no one else. The moment we as parents can teach this simple truth to our children, the sooner they will begin to learn they are truly responsible for what they think, say, and do. Children are responsible for their own actions. As your child continues to grow and do what they want to do in life, they will soon realize the way they act in public can make or break them to where they could become like a magnet to attract others to themselves in a positive manner; or they could become like the garbage in the kitchen that stinks and needs to be taken outdoors and put in the garbage can to the degree where no one wants to be around them. The choices children make today will determine there outlook on life. We all make mistakes, but then there should be a learning curve and process that only parents can give with correcting and directing their children to be the best citizens in their community and to make an impact on the world. The next your child and mine gets out of line and begins to clown and act a fool in public we should make sure they pay the price for their actions.... More About Custody: http://groups.google.com/group/custodyinfo > The telephone ring; it's a call from your child's teacher. The teacher > is calling to inform you that your child has been disrespectful and > disruptive in school. <babble deleted> Does this apply to bio or adopted kids?  SignatureRobyn Resident Witchypoo BAAWA Knight! #1557 If you can't be a good example.... You'll just have to be a horrible warning. >> The telephone ring; it's a call from your child's teacher. The teacher >> is calling to inform you that your child has been disrespectful and [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Does this apply to bio or adopted kids? Holy sh.t! Do they actually do that? Here in Italy teachers and parents aren't even allowed to communicate if not in writing and with an appointment through the principal. (isn't that weird? guess they want to protect the teacher from all those Mafia Mommies!) No parent can call a teacher and the other way round (uhm.. dunno if adopted makes a difference, though... can I kick the teacher around since my kid's adopted??) Robyn, I missed the babble you deleted, can I be excused?? >>> The telephone ring; it's a call from your child's teacher. The teacher >>> is calling to inform you that your child has been disrespectful and [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> Does this apply to bio or adopted kids? > Holy sh.t! Do they actually do that? LOL - Do what? I didn't actually read it ;) SignatureRobyn Resident Witchypoo BAAWA Knight! #1557 If you can't be a good example.... You'll just have to be a horrible warning. >>> The telephone ring; it's a call from your child's teacher. The teacher >>> is calling to inform you that your child has been disrespectful and [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > kick the teacher around since my kid's adopted??) Robyn, I missed the babble > you deleted, can I be excused?? So no accountability to parents and no help given to the parents to help guide the student? Research shows that students do much better when the parents are actively involved in the child's education. Parents DO know best. That is why home-schooling, as a whole, does a much better job of educating children than public schools. No school-yard bullies to steal their lunch. No insults from spoiled brats. No elitist groups. Etc., etc., etc. > So no accountability to parents and no help given to the parents to help > guide the student? Research shows that students do much better when the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > their lunch. No insults from spoiled brats. No elitist groups. Etc., > etc., etc. uhm... not sure Michael..My Mum took 2 years to teach me long division..and I grew up to be an engineer after I went to a proper school (DOH! was THAT what they were?? jeeez..) sure there's accountability, it's just that the Momma can't barge into the teacher's class-room, she has to get an appointment formally, and can meet only on certain days. If all parens start walking in when they want, who's teaching the kids?? Nope, I really REALLY don't believe in home schooling. > > So no accountability to parents and no help given to the parents to help > > guide the student? Research shows that students do much better when the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > their lunch. No insults from spoiled brats. No elitist groups. Etc., > > etc., etc. So when they encounter those types of people in the grownup world later in life are they prepared? Kathy >> So no accountability to parents and no help given to the parents to help >> guide the student? Research shows that students do much better when the [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > only on certain days. If all parens start walking in when they want, who's > teaching the kids?? Arguments from absurdum are for morons who have no case and/or have no clue what they are talking about. Nope, I really REALLY don't believe in home schooling. > Arguments from absurdum are for morons who have no case and/or have no > clue > what they are talking about. Arguments from people who HAVE no arguments so they have to insult...tsk tsk Mike... Who exactly is teaching the (only) child home alone? I missed that interesting part...But don't insult me now, it's not polite, Mike... >>>> The telephone ring; it's a call from your child's teacher. The teacher >>>> is calling to inform you that your child has been disrespectful and [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > their lunch. No insults from spoiled brats. No elitist groups. Etc., > etc., etc. No social skills, etc., etc. SignatureRobyn Resident Witchypoo BAAWA Knight! #1557 If you can't be a good example.... You'll just have to be a horrible warning. >>>>> The telephone ring; it's a call from your child's teacher. The teacher >>>>> is calling to inform you that your child has been disrespectful and [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > No social skills, etc., etc. No or few antisocial skills. Plenty of social interaction with other home schoolers. Also plenty of social interaction at the police station, fire department, science centers, art museums, league sports, etc. The military and ivy league schools prefer the higher-achieving, self motivated home schooled graduates. They have less social problems with them also, as a whole (as in drunk, fights, rebellion, can actually wipe their own noses, etc.). > >>>> "christy murphy" <wlxogaahrjtt@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:f2414eb2-d551-4b1c-8d7e-f9d249e47372@d10g2000pra.googlegroups.com... > >>>>> The telephone ring; it's a call from your child's teacher. The teacher > >>>>> is calling to inform you that your child has been disrespectful and [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > schoolers. Also plenty of social interaction at the police station, fire > department, science centers, art museums, league sports, etc. Do you typically find "school yard bullies, insults from spoiled brats and elitist groups" in these settings? All home schooling is not created equal. Some do a very good job, some do a very poor job. To stereotype as you are (I would expect no less) is to use one of your phrases "an argument from absurdum". > The military and ivy league schools prefer the higher-achieving, self > motivated home schooled graduates. They have less social problems with > them also, as a whole (as in drunk, fights, rebellion, can actually wipe > their own noses, etc.). Kathy >>>>>> "christy murphy" <wlxogaahrjtt@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > (I would expect no less) is to use one of your phrases "an argument from > absurdum". See below. Home schooling *as a whole* is much better at educating children. I fully agree that there are exceptions and not everyone is fit to do so. As a group they do much better than public schooled children. Just as there are a few exceptional public school teachers there are a few unfit home school teachers. However, as a whole, the public school system in the US is fatally flawed. Why do you think so many public school teachers send their own children to private schools? I wish I sent my children to private school. It would have been a cheap investment in their lives and would have eliminated many of their problems. In a private school a student who attacks another student with scissors would have been appropriately dealt with. In public school the principal just wrote it off. Honestly I should have pressed formal assault charges against the boy. My bad. >> The military and ivy league schools prefer the higher-achieving, self >> motivated home schooled graduates. They have less social problems with >> them also, as a whole (as in drunk, fights, rebellion, can actually wipe >> their own noses, etc.). > > Kathy > >>>>>> "christy murphy" <wlxogaahrjtt@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:f2414eb2-d551-4b1c-8d7e-f9d249e47372@d10g2000pra.googlegroups.com... > >>>>>>> The telephone ring; it's a call from your child's teacher. The > > teacher [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > See below. Home schooling *as a whole* is much better at educating > children. Stats please. I fully agree that there are exceptions and not everyone is fit > to do so. As a group they do much better than public schooled children. > Just as there are a few exceptional public school teachers there are a few > unfit home school teachers. However, as a whole, the public school system > in the US is fatally flawed. Why do you think so many public school > teachers send their own children to private schools? Well just to balance your sterotype, in my neck of the woods I don't know too many that do. I wish I sent my > children to private school. I thought home schooling was your gold standard? It would have been a cheap investment in their > lives and would have eliminated many of their problems. Isn't it a parent's job to teach their child how to deal with problems? In a private > school a student who attacks another student with scissors would have been > appropriately dealt with. In public school the principal just wrote it > off. So you think that because that happened to you that that happens across the board in public schools? Honestly I should have pressed formal assault charges against the > boy. My bad. Yep. Kathy 1 >>>>>>>> "christy murphy" <wlxogaahrjtt@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>> [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] > > Stats please. http://www.hslda.org/docs/nche/000000/00000017.asp > I fully agree that there are exceptions and not everyone is fit >> to do so. As a group they do much better than public schooled children. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Well just to balance your sterotype, in my neck of the woods I don't know > too many that do. It is more than a sterotype. A sterotype is a generalized perception based upon first impressions. The fact is that homeschoolers as a whole do much better socially, academically, and in the workplace has been documented for years. It is much more than a first impression. > I wish I sent my >> children to private school. > > I thought home schooling was your gold standard? No, many parents are not fit to homeschool. Private schools are much better. Private schools also do a much better job of dealing with bullies. Better to get rid of one bully than to loose 5 or 6 students due to the bully. > It would have been a cheap investment in their >> lives and would have eliminated many of their problems. > > Isn't it a parent's job to teach their child how to deal with problems? teach and protect and give them the best possible. The fact is the US public school system is fatally flawed. Teachers are not allowed to do what is necessary to maintain discipline. Then again, we could teach the victims martial arts to be able to defend themselves. But then we also have zero-tolerance schools which punish the victim for defending themselves, resulting in few disclosures of bullies, a very real problem in public schools. The proper method of dealing with bullies is reporting it to authorities. Public school administrators, as a whole, are restricted from dealing with bullies. It is not a child's duty to beat the bully to a pulp, the only effective method of dealing with them if an administrator refuses to get rid of the bully. If the administration will remove them (not just suspended for a day or two, but expelled) then we have a totally different and positive situation. By law we can not kick them out until age 16. Where do they go? Most private schools will not deal with them. Only a few military type schools have the resources to deal with bullies and very few can afford to send their children there and the government will not pay to send them there. Therefore the school administrator's hands are tied. They give the bully a day or two off of school, much to the delight of the bully. > In a private >> school a student who attacks another student with scissors would have been [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > So you think that because that happened to you that that happens across the > board in public schools? It didn't just happen to me. It was part of the culture of educators who are not allowed by law to do what is necessary to maintain control in the classroom and to hold back students who are not ready for the next grade. I know many a parent who has the same complaints. http://www.jaredstory.com/been_harassed.html http://nces.ed.gov/programs/crimeindicators/crimeindicators2005/Indicators.asp?P ubPageNumber=12 http://nces.ed.gov/programs/crimeindicators/crimeindicators2005/Indicators.asp?P ubPageNumber=4 http://www.conservapedia.com/Public_school > Honestly I should have pressed formal assault charges against the >> boy. My bad. > > Yep. > > Kathy 1 > The military and ivy league schools prefer the higher-achieving, self > motivated home schooled graduates. They have less social problems with > them also, as a whole (as in drunk, fights, rebellion, can actually wipe > their own noses, etc.). I'd really like to know where you've seen Ivy League schools actually express a "preference" for home schooled students. Sure it's important that college students have good social skills. It's also important that they have some knowledge of the wider world which they're less likely to have if they're home schooled, especially if the home schooling is done within a tight inward looking community. Really good schools, Ivy League or not, are primarily concerned with academic standards and they don't give a toss where or how their students reached the level needed for entry. Citations please (from the colleges themselves, not just some opinion voiced by a proponent of home schooling) >> The telephone ring; it's a call from your child's teacher. The teacher >> is calling to inform you that your child has been disrespectful and [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Does this apply to bio or adopted kids? Quite posting from googlegroups. Wise people killfile all posts from googlegroups because most psts from them are trolls and spammers and slammers and jerks and google refuses to deal with them. |
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