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Hey has anyone else checked the estimator online today? According to that I stand at $140 per fortnight better off under the new system PLUS hubby will get a small tax cut (between $5 and $25 pw) Yay! -- Melissa Wife to 1 Mum to 3 Australia somewhere assilem2@NOSPAMozemail.com.au <--remove the OBVIOUS Where is that Melissa? Liz > Hey has anyone else checked the estimator online today? According to that I > stand at $140 per fortnight better off under the new system PLUS hubby will [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Australia somewhere > assilem2@NOSPAMozemail.com.au <--remove the OBVIOUS > Where is that Melissa? > > Liz http://www.familyassist.gov.au/Internet/FAO/FAO1.nsf/content/online_services Have fun lol. Melissa wonder if they have some cash for meeeee ;p looks like I get the 3k for this bubs as it isnt means tested. bimbette >>Where is that Melissa? >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Melissa > wonder if they have some cash for meeeee ;p > > looks like I get the 3k for this bubs as it isnt means tested. > > bimbette woohoo! lol, with the extra family payments and the $3000 it's a good incentive to have another baby...for us anyway! Would certainly make things easier if we wanted to. Melissa > > wonder if they have some cash for meeeee ;p > > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Melissa woo hoooooooooooooooooooo c Im feeling a bit weird about the 3k. Cant decide what I should do. keep it and open an account for bubs or give it to the salvos. Im quite uncomfy about it in some ways. bimbette >>>wonder if they have some cash for meeeee ;p >>> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > c > Im feeling a bit weird about the 3k. > Cant decide what I should do. > keep it and open an account for bubs or give it to the salvos. > Im quite uncomfy about it in some ways. > > bimbette Ah you could donate it to me lol! Nah in all seriousness I think it has it's place. $3k is ALOT of money and would go along way if used properly. For us, well another baby would be nice and the $3k would help us set up and take the pressure off...not to mention be a nice deposit on a new car BUT another baby just aint in the works.. Mel > >>>wonder if they have some cash for meeeee ;p > >>> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > > > c I believe it certainly does have its place for a lot of families. It sure is a lot of money and Im glad they are giving it in installments to teenagers. I know at 15 I would have thought getting 3k for having a baby would be a fabby idea. bimbette >>Im feeling a bit weird about the 3k. >>Cant decide what I should do. [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] >>> >>>c > I believe it certainly does have its place for a lot of families. > It sure is a lot of money and Im glad they are giving it in installments > to teenagers. I know at 15 I would have thought getting 3k for having a > baby would be a fabby idea. > > bimbette But what about those teenage mothers who could have used the lump sum to buy a crib, a full baby kit and a safe new car seat for their babies? Now they will get it dribbled out in such small amounts that it pretty much will get lost in the noise of day to day living. Why is it better to spend it on smokes and pizza in small installments rather than on a couple of big ticket items right at the start? Just because a mother is young doesn't mean that their babies don't deserve a chance to get some nice new stuff too. It wasn't so very long ago that women had to fight for the right to manage their own money as they saw fit, because it was "obvious" that, if given a chance, women would just fritter their money away on silly nothings. Everyone *knew* that women needed men to tell them what they could spend their money on - it was for their own good, after all. Replace "women" with "teenage mothers" and "men" with "the government" and you've reinvented the same social system. Now we just need to creep the age cut-off for installments up every couple of years, extend the now re-accepted principal to a few other areas and, ta da! Here we are - back, almost, to the begining. Almost, except that now, instead of our fathers or husbands deciding how often we can have some money to spend, it's the government. Do you really want the government micromanaging the lives of women to this extent? I think they should either just hand it out to all mothers to spend how they like, or pay it to everyone in installments. Do you not find it ironic that Howard thinks these mothers are so ignorant that they cannot be trusted with such a pittance as a one off, $3000 payment, but it is perfectly a.o.k. to place the life of a child in their hands? What a crazy world! eggs. :I think they should either just hand it out to all mothers to spend how :they like, or pay it to everyone in installments. Do you not find it :ironic that Howard thinks these mothers are so ignorant that they cannot :be trusted with such a pittance as a one off, $3000 payment, but it is :perfectly a.o.k. to place the life of a child in their hands? What a :crazy world! Hi, I'm new to reading this newsgroup and being a teenager when I had my first two children I just had to respond. I agree with you. Being a teenager has nothing to do with being a responsible mother. There are plenty of women who had/have children at the 'normal' age and are completely irresponsible. What the junkies, the alcholics and gamblers with kids. That money certaintly won't be going on things for the baby. Like you said, either give it the same to everyone or don't give it at all. Nic Yeah.. I was a bit harsh when I generalised about 'teenage mothers'. I meant what would have been relevant to me when I was a teenager. I highly doubt I would have bought baby items.. I was way more concerned with the latest fashions and undoubtably would have gone shopping. That was me. Then. I totally see your view and I realise that there are teenage mothers out there that would spend the money wisely and for them receiving it in installments sucks. It is crazy. bimbette > :I think they should either just hand it out to all mothers to spend how > :they like, or pay it to everyone in installments. Do you not find it [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Nic :Yeah.. I was a bit harsh when I generalised about 'teenage mothers'. :I meant what would have been relevant to me when I was a teenager. Oh don't worry about it. :) I didn't see it as being harsh. Despite me and I'm sure everyone who recieved the bonus and will recieve the baby bonus it's a god send, I think it probably wasn't a very good idea of the govt to do to begin with. There are too many people, from all ages to all walks of life, who will misuse it unfortunately. My oldest daughters friend's mother works the phone's for Centerlink and she said to me that once all the people who desparately needed the money stopped ringing they started getting calls from women who's husband's are earning 100k a year, wondering why they don't get the bonus. Incredible. :I highly doubt I would have bought baby items.. I was way more concerned :with the latest fashions and undoubtably would have gone shopping. :That was me. Then. And unfortunately there are those younger mothers who do that and make the rest of us look bad! lol :bimbette good to meet you Bimbette. :) Great name btw. :) Nic > Yeah.. I was a bit harsh when I generalised about 'teenage mothers'. > I meant what would have been relevant to me when I was a teenager. > > I highly doubt I would have bought baby items.. I was way more concerned > with the latest fashions and undoubtably would have gone shopping. > That was me. Then. Ya know, considering that current fashion is low slung hipsters teamed with teeny Titney tops, I don't think many girls today will be snapping up fashion items in the immediate postpartum period - and if they do, their just punishment will be waiting for them when they go to pick up their first pack of Mother & Child snaps at the One Hour Photo. I agree with Nic, that this whole Baby Bonus thing has been poorly thought out and executed in a way that seems designed to encourage us to think poorly of young mothers. I think I smell an election coming on ... eggs. :Ya know, considering that current fashion is low slung hipsters teamed :with teeny Titney tops, I don't think many girls today will be snapping :up fashion items in the immediate postpartum period - and if they do, :their just punishment will be waiting for them when they go to pick up :their first pack of Mother & Child snaps at the One Hour Photo. lol I know! I'm only 28 and there's no way in a million years I'd be waearing those tiny tops. The jeans are super comfy but I make sure all skin is covered! :I agree with Nic, that this whole Baby Bonus thing has been poorly :thought out and executed in a way that seems designed to encourage us to :think poorly of young mothers. I think I smell an election coming on Oh absolutely! It's must be getting bad if they are now trying to bribe voters though. Still, I'm not going to say no if they want to give it. Means we can get much more for the kids than we might be able to otherwise and that's always a good thing. Might not be all toy's like they want..lol NiC Put the $3K in a term deposit account or managed fund and just let it tick over until he/she is 17 and give it to them for their first car or to go towards uni study. > Im feeling a bit weird about the 3k. > Cant decide what I should do. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > > > c am thinking of the term deposit idea. I told my inlaws yesterday about the 3k baby bonus and my father in law said 'well I wont give money then' *wink*. he opened accounts for both girls on their arrival. bimbette > Put the $3K in a term deposit account or managed fund and just let it tick > over until he/she is 17 and give it to them for their first car or to go [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >>> >>>c >Cant decide what I should do. donate it to the house of m's Michelle -- Sometimes sanity takes vacation days on me remove the sand to email me. >Im feeling a bit weird about the 3k. >Cant decide what I should do. >keep it and open an account for bubs or give it to the salvos. >Im quite uncomfy about it in some ways. We were planning to stick it in our savings account and then work out what to do with it. At the moment it's not something we need for day to day living and by the time bubs is born it'll be even less necessary but I don't want to give it up either.  SignatureCheryl Mum to Shrimp (11 Mar 99), Thud (4 Oct 00) Mischief (30 Jul 02) + someone new due Feb 05 whack it in an aggresive managed fund.... > Im feeling a bit weird about the 3k. > Cant decide what I should do. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > > > c YaY for you guys! bimbette > Hey has anyone else checked the estimator online today? According to that I > stand at $140 per fortnight better off under the new system PLUS hubby will [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Australia somewhere > assilem2@NOSPAMozemail.com.au <--remove the OBVIOUS > YaY for you guys! > > bimbette Make s change for us...usually we end up gettig shafted and end up with a debt Melissa |
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