A call for help! (co-sleeping research needed)
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Em - 20 Feb 2004 04:28 GMT (crossposted to MKB & MKP)
I found out at my LLL meeting tonight that the SIDS taskforce in town is mounting an effort to have co-sleeping deemed a hotlineable offense (i.e. you can be reported to the Division of Family Services *Child Abuse* hotline for co-sleeping with your baby!). Anyway, as a Breastfeeding Coalition member in my town I have been invited to attend a meeting of the SIDS taskforce (along with the LLL leaders). I don't even know where to begin addressing this proposed co-sleeping issue. My baby is five months old and my time available to spend doing internet research is severely limited. I really don't want to go to a meeting with only, "I know I've read *somewhere* that co-sleeping is good."
So, I'm appealing to the informed participants of this newsgroup: can you give me reputable sources that indicate that co-sleeping is *not* a SIDS risk? I know there are articles out there as well about how breastfeeding can help reduce the risk of SIDS and I would appreciate direction to those as well.
-- Em mama to L-baby, 5 months (feeling a bit lazy asking others to do her legwork for her)
Marie - 20 Feb 2004 05:12 GMT >(crossposted to MKB & MKP) >I found out at my LLL meeting tonight that the SIDS taskforce in town is [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >really don't want to go to a meeting with only, "I know I've read >*somewhere* that co-sleeping is good." OMG! I have no idea how to help you there. I can't imagine it would be possible to have that come through. What, are they going around to every country in the world where this is the norm and taking all those babies away? Where do you live? What a shock! Marie
Maryilee - 20 Feb 2004 17:49 GMT >OMG! I have no idea how to help you there. I can't imagine it would be >possible to have that come through. What, are they going around to >every country in the world where this is the norm and taking all those >babies away? Where do you live? What a shock! >Marie I don't know what the consequences are, but lately I've noticed at the hospital where I work, that the social worker will be called in to "warn" parents of the "dangers" of co-sleeping.
However, nothing seems to be done in the case of the parents who are there with their sick children and *never* pick them up or interact with them.
Maryilee
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Marie - 20 Feb 2004 18:10 GMT >I don't know what the consequences are, but lately I've noticed at the hospital >where I work, that the social worker will be called in to "warn" parents of the >"dangers" of co-sleeping. When I had my babies, nothing was ever said to me about keeping them in bed with me in the hospital, and I noticed the nurses would make a note on the chart that the baby was in bed with me. A couple of times I've been told by a nurse that I can put the baby in the bassinet provided.
>However, nothing seems to be done in the case of the parents who are there with >their sick children and *never* pick them up or interact with them. :o( Marie
Tine Andersen - 20 Feb 2004 20:26 GMT > >I don't know what the consequences are, but lately I've noticed at the hospital > >where I work, that the social worker will be called in to "warn" parents of the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I've been told by a nurse that I can put the baby in the bassinet > provided. At my hospital - 6 years ago - I was told: Put the baby next to you. You'll both sleep better. You don't need the bassinet.
Tine, Denmark
Leigh McCuen - 21 Feb 2004 04:04 GMT > When I had my babies, nothing was ever said to me about keeping them > in bed with me in the hospital, and I noticed the nurses would make a > note on the chart that the baby was in bed with me. A couple of times > I've been told by a nurse that I can put the baby in the bassinet > provided. I was told I wasn't allowed to sleep with my baby in the bed, that when I went to sleep she had to be in her bassinet. So I stayed awake and held her. We went home the next day (rather than have me sacrifice another night of sleep).
Leigh
Larissa - 21 Feb 2004 10:08 GMT >>I don't know what the consequences are, but lately I've noticed at the hospital >>where I work, that the social worker will be called in to "warn" parents of the [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > :o( > Marie I was woken up by the nurses on duty and informed it was against hospital policy for me to sleep with my baby in the bed with me. Then it was noted in my record that I had been informed. I continued to sleep with her in hospital. For one thing I had just had a c-section and it was much easier to get the baby to feed her or burp her or hold her if she was upset than to try and struggle out of bed and get her.
Larissa DD feb 99 DS mar01 DD2 dec03
Marie - 20 Feb 2004 05:52 GMT >So, I'm appealing to the informed participants of this newsgroup: can you >give me reputable sources that indicate that co-sleeping is *not* a SIDS >risk? I know there are articles out there as well about how breastfeeding >can help reduce the risk of SIDS and I would appreciate direction to those >as well. Posting again... It occured to me that everytime I have seen someone argue against cosleeping because of the risk of SIDS, they start mentioning suffocating, getting caught between mattress and wall, etc. It's not about SIDS, it's always about death from accidents. Not that that is any help either but since there's no evidence that cosleeping causes SIDS they usually use that other stuff so I'd look out for it. Here are some articles I found: http://www.nichd.nih.gov/publications/pubs/sidsfact.htm "Recently, scientific studies have demonstrated that bedsharing, between mother and baby, can alter sleep patterns of the mother and baby. These studies have led to speculation that bedsharing, sometimes referred to as co-sleeping, may also reduce the risk of SIDS. While bedsharing may have certain benefits (such as encouraging breast feeding), there are not scientific studies demonstrating that bedsharing reduces SIDS. Some studies actually suggest that bedsharing, under certain conditions, may increase the risk of SIDS. If mothers choose to sleep in the same beds with their babies, care should be taken to avoid using soft sleep surfaces. Quilts, blankets, pillows, comforters, or other similar soft materials should not be placed under the baby. The bedsharer should not smoke or use substances such as alcohol or drugs which may impair arousal. It is also important to be aware that unlike cribs, which are designed to meet safety standards for infants, adult beds are not so designed and may carry a risk of accidental entrapment and suffocation." "There is some evidence to suggest that breast feeding might reduce the risk of SIDS. A few studies have found SIDS to be less common in infants who have been breast fed. This may be because breast milk can provide protection from some infections that can trigger sudden death in infants." http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/12/27/1072308726011.html?from=storyrhs "Research indicated that babies sleeping in the same room as a committed caregiver were half as likely to die of sudden infant death syndrome as a baby sleeping alone in a room, he said. Babies who shared beds had fewer and shorter apnoeas, or suspensions of respiration, in the deepest stages of sleep than those who slept alone." http://www.nd.edu/~prinfo/news/2002/9-10z.html "In Japan, which has the lowest rates of infant mortality and SIDS, about 90% of parents sleep with their babies."
There is an anthropologist (I think that's what she is) and I think her name is Karen Dettweiler? I couldn't find anything on her so I must be wrong, but she has said when mother and baby sleep together, their breathing patterns synchronizes.
I hope some of this might help. Marie
KarenC - 20 Feb 2004 13:32 GMT Great idea....her name is Kathy Dettwyler. Check out this site for some references on SIDS and all sorts research pertaining to BFing.
http://www.prairienet.org/laleche/detrefs.html
Karen
> There is an anthropologist (I think that's what she is) and I think > her name is Karen Dettweiler? I couldn't find anything on her so I > must be wrong, but she has said when mother and baby sleep together, > their breathing patterns synchronizes. Sidheag McCormack - 20 Feb 2004 14:24 GMT [piggybacking soory]
Maybe this statement from the UNICEF UK Baby Friendly initiative would help:
http://www.babyfriendly.org.uk/mailing/updates/research_update_20040216.htm
Sidheag DS Colin Oct 27 2003
HollyLewis - 20 Feb 2004 07:44 GMT >So, I'm appealing to the informed participants of this newsgroup: can you >give me reputable sources that indicate that co-sleeping is *not* a SIDS >risk? You want the research of James McKenna, which is written about extensively by Meredith Small in the book _Our Babies, Ourselves_ (there is a chapter specifically about sleep). Unfortunately, I have no idea how to go about finding actual abstracts or the like on the 'net, but perhaps someone here does. But go get the Small book and use her annotations.
If "reputable sources" for your purposes includes pretty much anything written by a pediatrician ;-) then you can use Dr. Sears and Dr. Jay Gordon. Both have websites that may be useful. (Don't recall the address of Gordon's, but Sears is www.askdrsears.com)
Should you be confronted with stories of cosleeping babies' deaths, remember that in almost all reports it turns out that the baby died not of SIDS but of suffocation, that the adult involved was drunk or drugged, and that the baby was sleeping on a couch or other unsafe place rather than in an actual bed. If you look for those elements in any evidence that the proponents of this nonsense have, you will probably find them.
Holly Mom to Camden, 3yo EDD #2 6/8/04
Mary W. - 20 Feb 2004 16:12 GMT > >So, I'm appealing to the informed participants of this newsgroup: can you > >give me reputable sources that indicate that co-sleeping is *not* a SIDS [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > finding actual abstracts or the like on the 'net, but perhaps someone here > does. But go get the Small book and use her annotations. Em-
Per Holly's suggestion, I looked up McKenna on pubmed and have a word document with his abstracts. Haven't gone through it all, but if you want the abstracts, let me know and I can email it to you. I can get some of the articles in pdf format (especially in the last 6-7 years).
Mary
Em - 20 Feb 2004 21:20 GMT "Mary W." <mbwagner@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > >So, I'm appealing to the informed participants of this newsgroup: can you > > >give me reputable sources that indicate that co-sleeping is *not* a SIDS [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > I can email it to you. I can get some of the articles in > pdf format (especially in the last 6-7 years). Thanks, Mary. I would like the info. The address in the header works if you take out the spam block.
Thanks to all who are posting info. I don't have much time to respond, but I'm reading all posts and appreciate it so much!
-- Em mama to L-baby, 5 months
Lucy - 20 Feb 2004 07:49 GMT > (crossposted to MKB & MKP) > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > mama to L-baby, 5 months > (feeling a bit lazy asking others to do her legwork for her) It is all a matter of cultural perspective. In some cultures NOT cosleeping is considered "child-abuse" so...they need to work on promoting SAFE co-sleeping practices, not ethnocentric rules/laws!
"Yet in the majority of cultures in the world (and in Western cultures until perhaps 200 years ago), babies sleep in the same bed with their parents, typically until they are weaned, a pattern often called cosleeping. Such an arrangement has many supportive reasons, including lack of alternative space for the infant to sleep in some cases. More often, cosleeping seems to reflect a basic collectivist value, one in which contact and interdependence rather than separateness are emphasized (Harker & Super, 1995). Morelli and her colleagues (1992) report that the Mayan mothers they interviewed, most of whom practice cosleeping, considered the U.S. practice of separate sleeping as tantamount to child neglect. They are shocked and disbelieving when told that U.S. infants often sleep in a separate room, with no one nearby. Morelli also reports that bedtime among the Mayan families she studied was rarely a time of discord or difficulty between parent and child, as it so often is in Western families in which infants and toddlers sleep separately from the adults. Mayan children also rarely used stuffed animals or other "transitional objects" to comfort themselves as they fell asleep, while this is common among Western infants and toddlers. Thus, the cultural assumptions affect not only what we consider "normal" and "right" for children; they shape the interaction between parent and child, including the nature of their common disputes or struggles." (From TextBook: The Developing Child-Helen Bee)
Chotii - 20 Feb 2004 08:10 GMT > > (crossposted to MKB & MKP) > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > hotline > > for co-sleeping with your baby!). Aw, for cryin' out loud.
If they do this, they'd better make sure that smoking and formula feeding are also hotlineable offenses, because those have at least equally strong associations with SIDS.
(No offense intended to the moms who must use formula, but it *is* a scary truth, see:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=1 4709496&dopt=Abstract
or
http://tinyurl.com/2njnp
Also
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=1 0443504&dopt=Books
or
http://tinyurl.com/2jvbt
Now please, do NOT turn this into a formula vs breast debate. This is a 'SIDS safety issues' thing. If co-sleeping is no more dangerous than having baby sleep alone in his own room (and it is not, if you look at the numbers), then it should not be "hotlineable". How about putting baby to sleep on his tummy? Should THAT be hotlineable? Should women be turned into CPS for putting baby to sleep on his tummy? How *about* smoking? That's known to increase the risk of SIDS. This is stupid. But as long as they're being stupid, how about they be *consistent* and stupid.
--angela
Em - 23 Feb 2004 22:06 GMT "Chotii" <res0vi4u@verizon.outdamnedspam.net> wrote in message
> Aw, for cryin' out loud. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > (No offense intended to the moms who must use formula, but it *is* a scary > truth, see: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_ui ds=14709496&dopt=Abstract
> or > > http://tinyurl.com/2njnp > > Also http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_ui ds=10443504&dopt=Books
> or > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > known to increase the risk of SIDS. This is stupid. But as long as they're > being stupid, how about they be *consistent* and stupid. I know. I don't even know how to begin with them. We were warned by the person that tipped us off to the meetings that when we go, we will be facing a very "hostile crowd." She said that she was the lone voice that questioned the idea at all and said she was, "totally discredited." I'm getting nervous.
Actually, I may well end up not going, because it is still unclear whether babies are "allowed" at the meetings and I can't leave mine behind. Several of my Coalition members are going though, and I'm passing along all of the good information I'm getting here to them.
-- Em mama to L-baby, 5 months
Nina - 20 Feb 2004 13:52 GMT Where in the name of God do you live? My personal opinion "f.ck them", pardon my language. If that's the case, lets report parents who drink even in small amounts smoke, take cough medicine, cook their eggs runny, feed their kids beef because SOMETIMES kids die from these things. Sheesh
> (crossposted to MKB & MKP) > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > mama to L-baby, 5 months > (feeling a bit lazy asking others to do her legwork for her) Em - 23 Feb 2004 22:06 GMT "Nina" <esanena@adelphia.never> wrote in message
> Where in the name of God do you live? > My personal opinion "f.ck them", pardon my language. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > beef > because SOMETIMES kids die from these things. I live in Missouri. I also learned at my meeting (from a LLL leader who also works for the DFS hotline), that having no air conditioning is hotlineable here. I should ask her about runny eggs, etc.....
What makes me extra uncomfortable is the feeling that it isn't "safe" to tell someone that I co-sleep, just in case they are going to think I'm a child abuser :-(
-- Em mama to L-baby, 5 months
ted - 20 Feb 2004 15:51 GMT > (crossposted to MKB & MKP) > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > can help reduce the risk of SIDS and I would appreciate direction to those > as well. One of the posters mentioned culture factor for cosleeping. In my case I'm having to cosleep because that's the ONLY way my dd will go to sleep. I tried every trick there is to make her sleep in the crib but she just won't. For some moms like me, cosleeping is not a choice, it's the only option. I love her dearly but honestly, I would've been lot happier if she sleeps in the crib but she doesn't. The minute I move an inch away from her, she wakes up no matter what time of the night it is. I take all precautions to avoid SIDS but there's no way I can do without cosleeping.
rsitter - 20 Feb 2004 18:20 GMT tedneeley@yahoo.com (ted) wrote in message
> One of the posters mentioned culture factor for cosleeping. In my case > I'm having to cosleep because that's the ONLY way my dd will go to [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > night it is. I take all precautions to avoid SIDS but there's no way I > can do without cosleeping. same here. my 1 year old is the lightest sleeper ever. the only way she will sleep is in my bed (although she is sleeping a little deeper now that we've taken her bottle.) i don't have to cuddle with her or touch her, but somehow she knows she is in my bed. we're about to have a newborn, and i don't know what to do to solve this.
but the thought that anyone would call this a form of child abuse? you can buy cosleeper units, both that kind that go in your bed and the kind that attach onto it. there are articles all over the net (i'm thinking particularly of ivillage.com) about the pros and cons. studies have shown that it doesn't increase the risk of sids when the appropriate precautions are taken, any more than allowing a child to sleep on their stomach. let's face it, tummy sleeping is the only way some babies will sleep.
whoever said that cosleeping is a cultural thing is correct. and there are many many many more people here that do it than will admit it because they're afraid of what other people will think - they're baby's spoiled, they can't control their kids, etc. but to think that someone would be so uncomfortable with what is one of the most natural things in the world to try to label it child abuse is in my opinion utter ridiculousness.
rsitter mother of megan, 10, riley, 1, and chloe due in 5 1/2 weeks.
Dagny - 20 Feb 2004 16:05 GMT Hope these help if not exactly what you need:
http://www.mothering.com/editorials/editorial113.shtml
Also some info on this page
http://www.mothering.com/action-alerts/index.shtml
I think there is a more in depth Mothering article but I can't find it.
-- Dagny
Joshua Levy - 24 Feb 2004 02:06 GMT > Hope these help if not exactly what you need: > > http://www.mothering.com/editorials/editorial113.shtml > Also some info on this page > http://www.mothering.com/action-alerts/index.shtml > I think there is a more in depth Mothering article but I can't find it. Is that the same Mothering magazine which is currently pushing the HIV doesn't cause AIDS theory? And the Vaccines cause Autism theory? Sounds like a great source of information to me! :-)
Joshua Levy
Chotii - 24 Feb 2004 02:28 GMT > > Hope these help if not exactly what you need: > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > HIV doesn't cause AIDS theory? And the Vaccines cause Autism theory? > Sounds like a great source of information to me! :-) Well, how about those of us who take a middle ground?
I do not believe the retrovirus "HIV" causes AIDS. I believe it may be an important factor but by *no* means the only factor. There are many other (in my mind) contributory factors which may affect different people, including environmental toxins, antibiotics use, illegal drugs, starvation, and even the drugs used to combat AIDS, which have bitterly ugly side effects.
I do not believe that *some* causes of autism may not have been triggered (in susceptible individuals) by the stress of vaccines on the bodies of those children. Also, that *some* children may suffer mercury poisoning, whose symptoms are difficult to distinguish from those of true autism - and that while this level of mercury in their bodies may have been cause primarily by environmental toxins, vaccines with thimerosol may have contributed. *We* certainly don't know how sensitive any individual child may be to heavy metals - only that in the vast majority of cases, any given individual child will be resilient enough to tolerate the amount of mercury in vaccines.
--angela
Akuvikate - 20 Feb 2004 17:52 GMT > So, I'm appealing to the informed participants of this newsgroup: can you > give me reputable sources that indicate that co-sleeping is *not* a SIDS > risk? From the perspective of a co-sleeping mama who loves it, unfortunately I can't. You can quote James McKenna, who shows that co-sleeping babies' breathing is more in sync with their moms and attempt to extrapolate that therefore SIDS rates will be lower. You can quote Dr. Sears, whose research standards are, shall we say, very much his own. But you can't find hard data that supports the idea that co-sleeping is protective against SIDS. So far all the hard data shows the opposite.
Though moms and babies probably are evolved to sleep together, this evolution didn't take place in the context of foam or innerspring mattresses and pillows and blankets for warmth. Probably the safest sleeping arrangement is mom and baby on a straw mat in a tropical climate where no more than a light blanket is needed. At the same time, making it a hotlineable offense is plain silly. Either those proposing it are doing so as a publicity stunt or they're not too bright.
Kate and the Bug, 8 months
Irene - 20 Feb 2004 22:31 GMT > > So, I'm appealing to the informed participants of this newsgroup: can you > > give me reputable sources that indicate that co-sleeping is *not* a SIDS [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > co-sleeping is protective against SIDS. So far all the hard data > shows the opposite. For this case, at least, though, she just needs to try and suggest that co-sleeping isn't *more* dangerous, which is a much lower bar than trying to prove that co-sleeping in fact protects against SIDS. (I'm not trying to argue one way or another, just as to what the argument needs to be, since I haven't seen any studies that have really convinced me either way.)
Irene
Em - 23 Feb 2004 22:01 GMT "Akuvikate" <ktelliott@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> "Em" <beadjoy@NOhotmailSPAM.com> wrote in message > > So, I'm appealing to the informed participants of this newsgroup: can you [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > proposing it are doing so as a publicity stunt or they're not too > bright. Our Coalition has already decided to approach the discussion from the perspective of, "how can we help people understand safe co-sleeping" as opposed to a debate about whether co-sleeping is okay or not (if we can steer it that way, anyway).
Re: the brightness of the taskforce members. Apparently, they are basing their stance on the Lancet article about bed sharing that was reprinted in the local paper. Also, several members of the taskforce have lost babies to SIDS. I think they are coming from a knee-jerk, emotional reaction. According to the person that attended their last meeting, one member said, "if this will save the life of even one baby, it will be worth it. I just boggle at where they have chosen to direct their attention, when, as other posters have pointed out, it could be directed to parents who smoke, etc.
-- Em mama to L-baby, 5 months
Joshua Levy - 24 Feb 2004 00:54 GMT > > So, I'm appealing to the informed participants of this newsgroup: can you > > give me reputable sources that indicate that co-sleeping is *not* a SIDS [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > babies' breathing is more in sync with their moms and attempt to > extrapolate that therefore SIDS rates will be lower. Any McKenna quotes should carry the following warning (in large type):
James McKenna's lab has NEVER published a peer reviewed paper comparing SIDS death rates for co-sleepers to SIDS death rates for non-co-sleepers. In fact, the lab has NEVER studied babies who died of SIDS at all! Although it is true that McKenna is a big co-sleeping advocate, his most recent postings do NOT claim that SIDS death rates are lower for co-sleepers.
> You can quote > Dr. Sears, whose research standards are, shall we say, very much his > own. I guess this is a polite way of saying "he's never published a peer reviewed research paper in his life" (or at least not one that I could find). This is quite surprizing, because he should just be able to look at his own patient's records, and compare to SIDS death rate to the city he is in. I know of one doctor who did this, and found that ALL of his SIDS baby deaths were co-sleepers, and none were cot sleepers. (And this was in the US, where cot sleeping is more common!) However, he only had 3 SIDS deaths in his practice, so the sample size is too small to be conclusive.
Joshua Levy
Bruce and Jeanne - 20 Feb 2004 19:10 GMT > (crossposted to MKB & MKP) > > I found out at my LLL meeting tonight that the SIDS taskforce in town is > mounting an effort to have co-sleeping deemed a hotlineable offense (i.e. > you can be reported to the Division of Family Services *Child Abuse* hotline > for co-sleeping with your baby!). Forget the research issue - what about invasion of one's privacy? Like another poster suggested, then people should be reported for smoking in the house of an infant.
Contact the ACLU
Jeanne
Em - 23 Feb 2004 21:55 GMT "Bruce and Jeanne" <bridgemanyang@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > (crossposted to MKB & MKP) > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Contact the ACLU I know. Are they going to go about peeping into people's windows? I'm beginning to doubt that they will ever be able to pull it off, but it is scary anyway. I am already careful about who I tell that we co-sleep, because there are lots of people who think it is hotlineable, even if it isn't.
-- Em mama to L-baby, 5 months
Joshua Levy - 20 Feb 2004 20:53 GMT > (crossposted to MKB & MKP) > > I found out at my LLL meeting tonight that the SIDS taskforce in town is > mounting an effort to have co-sleeping deemed a hotlineable offense (i.e. > you can be reported to the Division of Family Services *Child Abuse* hotline > for co-sleeping with your baby!). Sounds like a urban legend to me.
> Anyway, as a Breastfeeding Coalition > member in my town I have been invited to attend a meeting of the SIDS > taskforce (along with the LLL leaders). I don't even know where to begin > addressing this proposed co-sleeping issue.
> So, I'm appealing to the informed participants of this newsgroup: can you > give me reputable sources that indicate that co-sleeping is *not* a SIDS > risk? I know there are articles out there as well about how breastfeeding > can help reduce the risk of SIDS and I would appreciate direction to those > as well. I asked this question months ago. At the time no one could find a recent peer reviewed study which compared night time death rates in co-sleepers vs. crib sleepers, and found lower rates for the co-sleepers. One woman claimed she would find the studies, but that was three months ago, and she has never posted any.
On the other hand, finding studies showing that co-sleeping is MORE dangerous is easy. There are lots: | Co-Sleeping Safety Data (Update 3: Jan 22, 2004)
This is a annotated bibliography covering the safety of co-sleeping with infants. I have included EVERY study, which I can find an on-line abstract (or the entire paper is on line) in English, which meets the following criteria: 1. The research was published in 2000 or later. 2. The research was peer reviewed. 3. The research focused on actual death rates (not suspected causes or mechanisms). 4. The research compared death rates for co-sleepers vs. non-co-sleepers. 5. The research was done in developed (not third world) countries. This bibliography does NOT include editorials, opinion pieces, or letters to the editor. The main sources for these abstracts are PubMed, SCIRUS, and web archives of medical journals. If you find any other studies, please tell me, so I can add them.
Summary: of the nine studies found, seven found co-sleeping to be more dangerous than cot sleeping, and two studies found no added danger from co-sleeping. No study found co-sleeping safer than cot sleeping. Not one. Some of the studies focused on SIDS, some focused on suffocation, some covered both.
Quotes from the Research:
"The most conservative estimate showed that the risk of suffocation increased by 20-fold when infants were placed to sleep in adult beds rather than in cribs. The public should be clearly informed of the attendant risks." [SCHE03]
"Almost all SIDS deaths in Alaska occurred in association with prone sleeping, bed sharing, or sleeping outside a crib." [GESS01]
"bed sharing showed an increased risk of dying accidentally, when compared with infants sleeping in designated infant containers" [BEAL00]
"Bed-sharing appears to increase the proportion of unexplained deaths, regardless of the position of the infant." [THOG00]
The Papers:
[BEAL00] Sudden infant death syndrome in South Australia 1968-97. Part 3: is bed sharing safe for infants? Beal SM, Byard RW J Paediatr Child Health 2000 Dec 36:552-4 http://reviews.bmn.com/medline/search/record?uid=MDLN.21012639&refer=scirus "bed sharing showed an increased risk of dying accidentally, when compared with infants sleeping in designated infant containers"
[CARP04] Sudden unexplained infant death in 20 regions in Europe: case control study R G Carpenter, L M Irgens, P S Blair, P D England, P Fleming, J Huber, G Jorch, P Schreuder Lancet 2004; 363: 185-91 http://www.thelancet.com "For mothers who did not smoke during pregnancy, OR for bed-sharing was very small (at 2 weeks 2·4 [1·2-4·6]) and only significant during the first 8 weeks of life." One way to phrase this in a one sentence headline is: Co-sleeping with children under 2 months old was a significant risk factor for SIDS.
[CARR01] Sudden Infant Death Syndrome, Bedsharing, Parental Weight, and Age at Death Cindie Carroll-Pankhurst and Edward A. Mortimer Jr PEDIATRICS Vol. 107 No. 3 March 2001, pp. 530-536 http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/abstract/107/3/530?maxtoshow=& HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=&fulltext=co-sleeping&searchid=1068846875876_9946&s tored_search=&FIRSTINDEX=0&sortspec=date&resourcetype=1&journalcode=pediatrics "By demonstrating that among an urban population at high risk for SIDS, bedsharing is strongly associated with a younger age at death, independent of any other factors, this study provides evidence of a relationship between some SIDS-like deaths and parent-infant bedsharing, particularly if the parent is large."
[FERN03] Sleep Environment and the Risk of Sudden Infant Death Syndrome in an Urban Population: The Chicago Infant Mortality Study Fern R. Hauck, Stanislaw M. Herman, Mark Donovan, Solomon Iyasu, Cathryn Merrick Moore, Edmund Donoghue, Robert H. Kirschner, and Marian Willinger Pediatrics 2003; 111: 1207-1214 http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/abstract/111/5/S1/1207 "Several factors related to the sleep environment during last sleep were associated with higher risk of SIDS: ... bed sharing overall (OR: 2.7; 95% CI: 1.84.2), bed sharing with parent(s) alone (OR: 1.9; 95% CI: 1.23.1), and bed sharing in other combinations (OR: 5.4; 95% CI: 2.810.2)" [GESS01] Association between sudden infant death syndrome and prone sleep position, bed sharing, and sleeping outside an infant crib in Alaska. Gessner BD, Ives GC, Perham-Hester KA. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=1 1581445&dopt=Abstract "Almost all SIDS deaths in Alaska occurred in association with prone sleeping, bed sharing, or sleeping outside a crib."
[IYAS03] Risk factors for sudden infant death syndrome among northern plains Indians. Iyasu S, Randall LL, Welty TK, Hsia J, Kinney HC, Mandell F, McClain M, Randall B, Habbe D, Wilson H, Willinger M. JAMA. 2002 Dec 4;288(21):2717-23. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=1 2460095&dopt=Abstract Found that infants who died were more likely to co-sleep (59.4% vs. 55.4%), but this relation was not statistically significant.
[SCHE03] Where Should Infants Sleep? A Comparison of Risk for Suffocation of Infants Sleeping in Cribs, Adult Beds, and Other Sleeping Locations N. J. Scheers, PhD, George W. Rutherford, MS and James S. Kemp, MD PEDIATRICS Vol. 112 No. 4 October 2003, pp. 883-889 http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/abstract/112/4/883?maxtoshow=& HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=&searchid=1068833062184_5846&stored_search=&FIRSTIN DEX=10&minscore=5000&journalcode=pediatrics "Reported deaths of infants who suffocated on sleep surfaces other than those designed for infants are increasing. The most conservative estimate showed that the risk of suffocation increased by 20-fold when infants were placed to sleep in adult beds rather than in cribs. The public should be clearly informed of the attendant risks."
[THOG00] Sleep position and bed-sharing in sudden infant deaths: An examination of autopsy findings Jon R. Thogmartin MD, Charles F. Siebert, Jr MD and William A. Pellan AS From Palm Beach County Medical Examiner Office, West Palm Beach, Florida. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6WKR-45SR7D1-1H&_cover Date=02%2F28%2F2001&_alid=128612081&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_qd=1&_cdi=6913&_ sort=d&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=1a30538b9 ea46661bbf85336bdc6f88d The Journal of Pediatrics Volume 138, Issue 2 , February 2001, Pages 212-217 "Bed-sharing appears to increase the proportion of unexplained deaths, regardless of the position of the infant."
[WILL03] Are risk factors for sudden infant death syndrome different at night? Williams SM, Mitchell EA, Taylor BJ. Department of Preventive and Social Medicine, Dunedin School of Medicine, University of Otago, New Zealand. Arch Dis Child. 2002 Oct;87(4):274-8. "The interactions between time of death and bed sharing, not sleeping in a cot or bassinet, ... [several other factors] were also significant, or almost so."
Papers Not Listed
[ARNE01] Changes in the epidemiological pattern of sudden infant death syndrome in southeast Norway, 1984-1998: implications for future prevention and research. Arnestad M, Andersen M, Vege A , Rognum TO Arch Dis Child 2001 Aug 85:108-15 "For SIDS victims, an increase in the number of infants found dead while co-sleeping is seen" This paper was not included above because it was unclear if the quote was due to the popularity of co-sleeping, or if the rate of death was increasing.
[WILL01] Scott Med J. 2001 Apr;46(2):43-7. Sudden unexpected infant deaths in Dundee, 1882-1891: overlying or SIDS? Williams FL, Lang GA, Mage DT. "It might be prudent to inform parents that co-sleeping is a risk factor for SIDS and that it should therefore be avoided." Although this study technically fulfills all the requirements, it's focus on deaths over 100 years ago caused me not to list it above.
[MUKA99] Leg Med (Tokyo). 1999 Sep;1(1):18-24. Sleeping environments as risk factors of sudden infant death syndrome in Japan. Mukai T, Tamaki N, Sato Y, Ohno Y, Miyazaki T, Nagamori H, Hara S, Endo T. Department of Forensic Medicine, Tokyo Medical University, 160-8402, Tokyo, Japan "In addition, the co-sleeping habit, which was not uncommon in Japan, seems to contribute to certain deaths of infants whose causes of death were controversial. In the investigation of SIDS, therefore, the sleeping environments, such as bedclothes and the co-sleeping habit, as well as the sleeping position should be taken into consideration as risk factors." This study was published one year before my cut-off, so it is not included above. However because many people claim data from Japan shows the safety of co-sleeping, including it here.
Some Famous Papers That Didn't Make It (and Why)
The McKenna papers are very popular on AP and co-sleeping web sites, but none are included for two reasons: they are all way too old, and none of them measured actualy death rates in children. Really! These papers which supposedly justify co-sleeping as an anti-SIDS method NEVER studied babies who died of SIDS!
A more serious problem with McKenna's work is that it was based on a discredited theory of SIDS. The modern view of McKenna work is that is shows a serious problem with co-sleeping. That co-sleeping infants are under stress. For example:
[HUNS02] The sleep of co-sleeping infants when they are not co-sleeping: evidence that co-sleeping is stressful Hunsley M, Thoman EB Dev Psychobiol. 2002 Jan;40(1):14-22. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=1 1835147&dopt=Abstract "Each of these differences indicates a markedly lower arousal level in the long-term co-sleeping infants. This sleep pattern has been repeatedly found to be an indicator of stress. We infer that a major source of stress for these infants is the experience of sleep disturbance documented for infants when they were co-sleeping. Based on extensive evidence for long-term effects of early stress, we conclude that co-sleeping should have significant implications for infants' neurobehavioral development."
The famous 1999 study by the Consumer Product Safty Commission (a US government department responsible for regulating cribs and beds) is not included here because it was published one year before the cut off. It found serious risk associated with co-sleeping, just as all the studies here did.
Many people ask about Dr. Sears's research, but I can not find a single peer-reviewed paper every published by Dr. Sears. I have looked at some of his web pages, and although they often state that co-sleeping is protective of SIDS, the papers he cites are typically very hold (mid 1980s to 1990s). He cites papers my McKenna and others in the same lab: Moska, and Richard, which did not study infants with SIDS at all.
Other web pages I've seen have vague references to "New Zealand studies" or "British studies", which are not specific enough to track down. I suspect they refer to very old research, but it is impossible to tell.
General Background Information
Odds ratios (OR) are a way of measuring extra risk. An equally risky activity would have an OR of 1.0 Something three times as dangerous would have an OR of 3.0. For various reasons, odds ratios of less than 2.0 are not usually considered significant.
For comparison, the OR for getting lung cancer if you smoke is 20.0. Joshua Levy
Carolyn - 20 Feb 2004 21:26 GMT Here is a link for The Mother-Baby Behavioural Sleep Laboratory at Notre Dame. It is very supportive of co-sleeping. http://www.nd.edu/~jmckenn1/lab/introduction.html I see from reading other replies that Dr. James McKenna (one of the researchers) has already been mentioned. Carolyn
> (crossposted to MKB & MKP) > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > mama to L-baby, 5 months > (feeling a bit lazy asking others to do her legwork for her) Kate - 20 Feb 2004 22:02 GMT > (crossposted to MKB & MKP) > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > taskforce (along with the LLL leaders). I don't even know where to begin > addressing this proposed co-sleeping issue. I *just* posted this to some groups I'm on. How apropo. :-)
----------- http://www.nd.edu/~jmckenn1/lab/faq.html I remember when I first became aware of James McKenna's sleep articles several years ago. I was so amazed that there was actual research outlining benefits to shared sleep- I had just thought it was easier than a crib.
:-) Jan Hunt has some good articles up too. http://www.naturalchild.com/james_mckenna/
===== Kate, http://www.cs.colorado.edu/~kolina/advantages-of-formula.html Mom to Ursula (9!), Sage (6.5), Benno (3!!) Nature's way is straight and unerring, foursquare and calm, great and tolerant. Everything is accomplished without the necessity of fabricated purpose. Man's way is equally self-evident. His internal principles are correct; his external acts are righteous; his results are certain. ~ I Ching (B.C. 1150?) Chinese Book of Changes http://listserv.uts.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/parent-l http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Just-Moms/ :-) -------------------------------------------
I know there is a lot more, but this should get you started. :-)
kate
Em - 23 Feb 2004 21:53 GMT "Kate" <katehallberg@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> "Em" <beadjoy@NOhotmailSPAM.com> wrote in message > > (crossposted to MKB & MKP) [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > I know there is a lot more, but this should get you started. :-) Thank you so much, I really appreciate all of the good info I'm getting. These groups are so incredible.
-- Em mama to L-baby, 5 months
Robin - 29 Feb 2004 01:38 GMT > So, I'm appealing to the informed participants of this newsgroup: can you > give me reputable sources that indicate that co-sleeping is *not* a SIDS > risk? I know there are articles out there as well about how breastfeeding > can help reduce the risk of SIDS and I would appreciate direction to those > as well. Mothering had an issue devoted to co-sleeping somewhere around sept/oct '02. They list references for their articles, so getting your hands on that issue would be a good place to start.
FWIW, my hospital (SW VA, US) encouraged me to co-sleep and helped me figure out how to nurse lying down.
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