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Family Forum / Pregnancy / Breastfeeding / December 2004Oatmeal Myth
Where are these actual creditable sources that say that oatmeal will increase milk supply? I brought it up at a LLL Meeting when a Mom was looking for tips and the room dropped silent instantly and stared at me like I had just farted. They believe this is completely a myth. Some, including me, said we'd research it and get back to it later and compare research notes. I have found no other info on this topic other than right here. Please explain where this comes from. I think it may just be an old wives tale. Angela > Where are these actual creditable sources that say that oatmeal will > increase milk supply? I brought it up at a LLL Meeting when a Mom was [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Angela Gee - I'm not sure I've read any articles on it, but it sure works for me. But then I find that RRLT works better than fenugreek for me too, so who knows. AManda -- DD 15th August 2002 1 tiny angel Nov 2003 DS 20th August 2004 RRLT? > > Where are these actual creditable sources that say that oatmeal will > > increase milk supply? I brought it up at a LLL Meeting when a Mom was [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > 1 tiny angel Nov 2003 > DS 20th August 2004 Red Raspberry Leaf Tea :) > RRLT? > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > 1 tiny angel Nov 2003 > > DS 20th August 2004 "A> > > Gee - I'm not sure I've read any articles on it, but it sure works for me. > But then I find that RRLT works better than fenugreek for me too, so who > knows. > AManda Fenugreek and anise. Beer and wine have been the lactagogues (substances which increase milk supply) for centuries. Carl > "A> > > > Gee - I'm not sure I've read any articles on it, but it sure works for me. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Carl I don't find any effect with wine (and I won't drink beer for anyone), and I still find that Red Raspberry Leaf Tea (RRLT) works heaps better than fenugreek. ... but that's me :) Amanda Hello Amanda > I don't find any effect with wine (and I won't drink beer for anyone), lol and > I still find that Red Raspberry Leaf Tea (RRLT) works heaps better than > fenugreek. ... but that's me :) Raspberry leaf tea is not a traditional lactagogue but it seems to work as you've proven Carl > Hello Amanda > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Raspberry leaf tea is not a traditional lactagogue but it seems to work as > you've proven when i was near the end of my pregnancy i mentioned that i was having RRLT regularly to a naturopath friend. she said that i should have lovely, bountiful milk from drinking it.  Signatureelizabeth (in australia) DS - born 20-aug-02 "Old school don't mean I'm better, I'm just getting older" -- Bias B > Beer and wine have been the lactagogues (substances which increase > milk supply) for centuries. GAlactagogues. Wine won't do anything. Beer will have some effect because of the hops and barley. However, ethanol is very well known for decreasing production, which may counteract the galactagogic effect. Signaturetristyn www.tristyn.net Actually I was pointing out that BEER and alcohol are detrimental to babies. I breastfeed therefore what I drink my DD drinks too. I am laying off the alcohol until our BFing relationship ceases. I am not being sarcastic, I am just apauled that anyone would suggest that alcohol would at all increase one's supply and benifit my baby in anyway. Angela ----- Original Message ----- From: "iphigenia" <preternatural@hotmail.com> To: "Angela Brydges" <techgirl4hire@shaw.ca> Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 3:04 PM Subject: Re: Oatmeal Myth and increasing milk supply > Angela Brydges wrote: > > I prefer not to feed my baby beer, but ty anyways for the info. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > tristyn > www.tristyn.net > > Beer and wine have been the lactagogues (substances which increase > > milk supply) for centuries. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > tristyn > www.tristyn.net > I breastfeed therefore what I drink my DD drinks too. Except that what you drink has much more alcohol than your milk does. 0.4% blood alcohol is enough to kill you, but is only an eighth as alcoholic as low-point beer (which in the US is 3.2% alcohol), and low enough you'd meet the "alcohol free" beer cutoff of 0.5%. If you're sober enough to drive legally, your blood alcohol level is probably below 0.08%. A sippy cup of apple juice could ferment to that over the course of an afternoon. ;) > I am just apauled that anyone would suggest that alcohol would at all increase > one's supply and benifit my baby in anyway. Because you think it's not true, because you think the costs outweigh the potential benefits, or because alcohol is so irredeemably evil that no good could possibly come from it, scientific evidence notwithstanding? Phoebe :) >Actually I was pointing out that BEER and alcohol are detrimental to babies. >I breastfeed therefore what I drink my DD drinks too. I am laying off the >alcohol until our BFing relationship ceases. I am not being sarcastic, I am >just apauled that anyone would suggest that alcohol would at all increase >one's supply and benifit my baby in anyway. You're appalled even though it's true? SignatureLinz YB: 13 months, 9.4kg, 72cm. > >Actually I was pointing out that BEER and alcohol are detrimental to babies. > >I breastfeed therefore what I drink my DD drinks too. I am laying off the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > You're appalled even though it's true? Hello Linz I agree with you - studies have shown that alcohol in moderation is actually benefial to BF and milk production Carl carljones@usadatanet.net > Actually I was pointing out that BEER and alcohol are detrimental to babies. > I breastfeed therefore what I drink my DD drinks too. I am laying off the > alcohol until our BFing relationship ceases. I am not being sarcastic, I am > just apauled that anyone would suggest that alcohol would at all increase > one's supply and benifit my baby in anyway. Hi Angela! This is a good post. Alcohol if taken cautiously relaxes the mother, thereby facilitating the let-down of milk, and increases the level of prolactin Studies have shown that beer is more effective in increasing prolactin levels than other forms of alcohol DeRosa et al, "Prolactin Secretion After Beer" Lancet 2; 1981 pages 934-936 Carl carljones@usadatanet.net > > Beer and wine have been the lactagogues (substances which increase > > milk supply) for centuries. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > barley. However, ethanol is very well known for decreasing production, which > may counteract the galactagogic effect. Hi Tristyn ethanol only decreases prolactin if taken in quantity. Beer because of the hops and barley as you noted- I agree Carl > Where are these actual creditable sources that say that oatmeal will > increase milk supply? I brought it up at a LLL Meeting when a Mom was [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Please explain where this comes from. I think it may just be an old wives > tale. I think there's some on kellymom. Jess "Techgirl4Hire" <techgirl4hire@hotmail.com> wrote and I snipped: > Where are these actual creditable sources that say that oatmeal will > increase milk supply? I brought it up at a LLL Meeting when a Mom was [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Please explain where this comes from. I think it may just be an old wives > tale. It's purely anecdotal. No research evidence that I know of. But, hey, if it works for one mom, she's likely to pass the suggestion along to her friend, etc. So, it shows up here. One LLL leader I know thought maybe moms were just eating better and getting more vitamins when they concentrated on increasing their supply by eating oatmeal. I know that when I got frustrated with low supply and really began actively doing something about it, like drinking more water, taking fenugreek, and getting more rest, my supply bounced back, but I could never tell what it was exactly that helped. YKWIM? -Patty, mom of 3 YKWIM? I really need to see your source of acronymns for this group. Wow you guys use them lots. Angela > "Techgirl4Hire" <techgirl4hire@hotmail.com> wrote and I snipped: > > Where are these actual creditable sources that say that oatmeal will [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > -Patty, mom of 3 > YKWIM? I really need to see your source of acronymns for this group. Wow you > guys use them lots. You Know What I Mean. That's pretty standard Usenet acronym. Michelle Flutist SignatureDrift on a river, That flows through my arms Drift as I'm singing to you I see you smiling, So peaceful and calm And holding you, I'm smiling, too Here in my arms, Safe from all harm Holding you, I'm smiling, too -- For Xander [9/22/98 - 2/23/99] Hi Angela FWIW IMHO this website has helped me HEAPS :-))))) LOL Good luck Camille http://www.acronymfinder.com/ > It's purely anecdotal. No research evidence that I know of. But, hey, if > it works for one mom, she's likely to pass the suggestion along to her [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > getting more rest, my supply bounced back, but I could never tell what it > was exactly that helped. YKWIM? The other speculations are either the carb boost somehow helps, either the good cholesterol coming in helps, or the fact that oatmeal is a comfort food for a lot of women helps. *shrugs* It works for me-when I take oatmeal, I go from roughly 6-8 ounces a pump to ten+ ounces. Jess it might be an old wives tale, but it works! Well at least for a reasonable number of people, as always different things work for different people *Where are these actual creditable sources that say that oatmeal will *increase milk supply? I brought it up at a LLL Meeting when a Mom was *looking for tips and the room dropped silent instantly and stared at me like *I had just farted. They believe this is completely a myth. Some, including Well, I don't know what you consider a creditable source. Here are some references I have found. These are not peer-reviewed medical references. http://www.kellymom.com/bf/supply/oatmeal.html (which plainly states "Although there is no scientific evidence regarding oatmeal and milk supply, oatmeal does seem to work for some....") http://www.marie.org/bf/myarticles/boosters.html http://www.asklenore.info/breastfeeding/print/induced_lactation/protocols4 print.html or http://tinyurl.com/65yxz But medline doesn't turn up anything including both "galactagogue" and "oatmeal" as keywords... SignatureHillary Israeli, VMD Lafayette Hill/PA/USA/Earth "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it is too dark to read." --Groucho Marx It won't hurt you to eat oatmeal, either way. It may even lower your cholesteral,according to TV commercials. Unless of course, you are sensitive to gluten. |
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