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Nanny 911 hostile to attachment parenting?

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Donna Metler - 26 Jul 2005 02:32 GMT
Did anyone see Nanny 911 tonight? It really bothered me how opposed the
Nanny was to even having the 8 month old in bed with the mom and dad-even
though the mom mentions nursing, or to the mom even lying down with the
older boys as they went to sleep for a short time, or to the mother carrying
the 8 month old around with her as she did daily tasks. I mean, what's wrong
with a baby being with mommy? My baby is more of the free range type, but
believe me, she doesn't want mommy anywhere out of eyesight-and if daddy is
home, wants him nearby as well! That's part of being 8 months old. It just
really got me.

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Donna DeVore Metler
Orff Music Specialist/Band/Choir
Mother to Angel Brian Anthony 1/1/2002, 22 weeks, severe PE/HELLP
And Allison Joy, 11/25/04 (35 weeks, PIH, Pre-term labor)

Christina - 26 Jul 2005 02:35 GMT
> Did anyone see Nanny 911 tonight? It really bothered me how opposed the
> Nanny was to even having the 8 month old in bed with the mom and dad-even
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> home, wants him nearby as well! That's part of being 8 months old. It just
> really got me.

yeah, i saw that too...what got me was nanny saying the mom had
attachment "issues" with her children...

christina (nanny would think i have issues too :) )
Shell - 26 Jul 2005 02:55 GMT
> Did anyone see Nanny 911 tonight? It really bothered me how opposed the
> Nanny was to even having the 8 month old in bed with the mom and dad-even
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> home, wants him nearby as well! That's part of being 8 months old. It just
> really got me.

I didn't see it tonight but I remember it from the original airing.  IIRC
the dad was sleeping on the couch.  I have no problem with attachment
parenting, but when it starts affecting the parent's relationship I think
it's an issue.

~Shell
Jodi - 26 Jul 2005 04:20 GMT
>> Did anyone see Nanny 911 tonight? It really bothered me how opposed the
>> Nanny was to even having the 8 month old in bed with the mom and dad-even
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> parenting, but when it starts affecting the parent's relationship I think
> it's an issue.

Not to mention, it wasn't that she wanted the 8-month-old nursling in bed,
it was that the mom couldn't handle having *any* of the kids in their own
beds (even though the kids seemed fine with it).  From the show, it really
didn't seem like she was co-sleeping because it was in the best interest of
the kids (or family as a whole) -- she was co-sleeping because she couldn't
handle the idea of the kids being okay without her.

--Jodi
Marie - 26 Jul 2005 16:50 GMT
> > Did anyone see Nanny 911 tonight? It really bothered me how opposed the
> > Nanny was to even having the 8 month old in bed with the mom and dad-even
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> ~Shell

No, this father slept in the bed. AP isn't the issue. From what I watched,
both parents were clueless about AP methods, raising children in general,
and their marriage. They reminded me of children raising their children.

Marie
DD-17 mo
KC - 26 Jul 2005 21:07 GMT
> I didn't see it tonight but I remember it from the original airing.  IIRC
> the dad was sleeping on the couch.  I have no problem with attachment
> parenting, but when it starts affecting the parent's relationship I think
> it's an issue.
>
> ~Shell

I didn't see it either, but my dh and I opt not to sleep together.  I
sleep with the baby on a mattress on the floor when we have an infant.
That way he gets plenty of rest, and I feel safer with the baby just in
bed with me.  It doesn't affect our relationship.  We are solid.  It
always irks me that people think something is wrong if a couple doesn't
sleep together.   It doesn't mean we don't cuddle together alot, and do
everything else married couples do.  We are just doing what makes us
happiest, getting good sleep.

KC
Shell - 28 Jul 2005 01:02 GMT
>> I didn't see it tonight but I remember it from the original airing.  IIRC
>> the dad was sleeping on the couch.  I have no problem with attachment
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> everything else married couples do.  We are just doing what makes us
> happiest, getting good sleep.

I strongly feel that if parents aren't close physically (not just sex) and
maintaining that physical contact it does affect marriages.  Too often
parent's don't sleep together, it becomes habit, routine, etc... and oh!
hey! look at that! we're roomates now.  And physical needs as a couple do
not get met.

I'm speaking in general terms, but that's what I see a lot. If it works for
you, awesome :-)   It sounds like you're getting the cuddling quota in.  ;-)

~Shell
Renee - 26 Jul 2005 04:01 GMT
> Did anyone see Nanny 911 tonight? It really bothered me how opposed the
> Nanny was to even having the 8 month old in bed with the mom and dad-even
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Mother to Angel Brian Anthony 1/1/2002, 22 weeks, severe PE/HELLP
> And Allison Joy, 11/25/04 (35 weeks, PIH, Pre-term labor)

I watched that episode and thought that someone here would say
something about it.

That family had some real problems that did need to be fixed, at least.
The older son spanking the younger son, the younger son peeing
outside, and the father spending time with his birds instead of helping
the mom in the morning.

Renee
Marie - 26 Jul 2005 16:57 GMT
> Did anyone see Nanny 911 tonight? It really bothered me how opposed the
> Nanny was to even having the 8 month old in bed with the mom and dad-even
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> home, wants him nearby as well! That's part of being 8 months old. It just
> really got me.

Well, what do you expect from an English nanny taught in the old traditional
ways of raising children? :) I wasn't surprised that she was opposed to the
mom carrying the 8-month-old around frequently, not that I agreed with it.

Unfortunately, though, this mom made AP look bad in other areas and
reinforced the common misconceptions towards AP. I couldn't believe how
unsafe cosleeping was for the 8-month-old in the crowded family bed.

Marie
DD-17 mo
Dagny - 26 Jul 2005 20:30 GMT
> Unfortunately, though, this mom made AP look bad in other areas and
> reinforced the common misconceptions towards AP. I couldn't believe how
> unsafe cosleeping was for the 8-month-old in the crowded family bed.

With an 8-month-old?  My six month old is nearly 20 pounds ... I'm not
likely to smother him ... ????

Of course I did not see the show to know what they were doing.
Donna Metler - 26 Jul 2005 20:51 GMT
> > Unfortunately, though, this mom made AP look bad in other areas and
> > reinforced the common misconceptions towards AP. I couldn't believe how
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Of course I did not see the show to know what they were doing.

Well, she was very definitely NOT following safe co-sleeping rules. Among
other things, the 8 month old was shown as being on the outside of mommy,
and while there was a bedrail, it wasn't anywhere near big enough given that
8 month olds are pretty mobile. There was also no control on the bedding,
and there was enough of it to be a hazard. But, the reason given for the
baby needing to sleep in her own bed wasn't that they weren't co-sleeping
safely, but that it was emotionally "unhealthy" to co-sleep at all.

But I still don't see what was so wrong with the mother playing with an
obviously wide awake baby even though the schedule says it was naptime, or
with her lying down next to her son while he was going to sleep in his own
bed!  And I don't believe for a second that co-sleeping with a 6 yr old is
going to confuse him as to his role in the household, or that he wanted to
replace daddy.

There were obvious problems which needed to be addressed-but a lot of the
things which the nanny kept harping on the mother about were things which
made me wonder just what she'd say about me? I mean, my daughter sort of has
a schedule, but it's evolved based on what her internal clock seems to
want-everything has about an hour or so launch window when it usually
happens, but it's all subject to change based on baby desires and needs.
Marie - 26 Jul 2005 21:21 GMT
> > Unfortunately, though, this mom made AP look bad in other areas and
> > reinforced the common misconceptions towards AP. I couldn't believe how
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Of course I did not see the show to know what they were doing.

Oh, no. I am all for cosleeping, and I cosleep with my DD.

In an up-close shot, the family (father, 6-yo boy, 3-yo boy, mother, and
8-mo girl) was shown sleeping in the same bed, nearly on top of each other
like in a can of sardines. The baby was between the mother and what at first
looked like no safety barrier on their side of the bed. Later, in the
background when the mother was filmed in her bedroom, there was an
itty-bitty bed rail on that side of the bed.

For safe cosleeping, the bed should be large and roomy enough for the
parents and the baby. Preferably, a stronger rail or the crib alongside the
bed would be needed if they were to continue to cosleep. For the baby that
young, it would be safer not to have older and bigger siblings in the same
bed with her b/c they might not be careful and aware of her in their sleep.
It just bothered me to see her sleeping in what seemed like an unsafe
situation to me.

Marie
DD-17 mo
KC - 26 Jul 2005 21:11 GMT
I didn't see it, but I usually like the discipline things they teach,
but dislike their rigidity.  They took away bedtime sippy cups of water
one time from some toddlers, and I didn't like that.  I am a softy, and
like to baby my babies.  However their discipline advice has helped me
to get my older kids behaving better.

KC

> Did anyone see Nanny 911 tonight? It really bothered me how opposed the
> Nanny was to even having the 8 month old in bed with the mom and dad-even
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Mother to Angel Brian Anthony 1/1/2002, 22 weeks, severe PE/HELLP
> And Allison Joy, 11/25/04 (35 weeks, PIH, Pre-term labor)
 
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