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Ruth Shear - 19 Nov 2005 12:23 GMT G'day
oht nak 8-)
Madeleina Venus (7 lb 7 ozs, 19.25") was born by a natural VBAC on Sat Nov 12th at 6:41 am after 3 hrs 20 mins of labor, including a speed down the freeway with my bum in the air trying not to push. No offense elizabeth, but I had no desire for a car birth 8-)
She is beautiful of course, and had no problems other than a harried day of phototherapy that resolved her bili levels faster than her ped would believe (I know it was all the mummy milk I pushed on her during that day). My milk came in on day 3 and we are nursing like pros.
I, on the other hand, have had major complications due to extensive blood loss and am living on my couch with a hemocrit of 6-ish (should be 6 or 7 time higher). I was kept in the hospital till Tues night and have only just started to get on top of stuff, specially since DS1 has been home sick too.
I promise to write the birth story sometime soon, but the bottom line was the birth itself, although fast and furious, was perfect! 8-)
DrRuth
Mary W. - 19 Nov 2005 12:30 GMT > G'day > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > the freeway with my bum in the air trying not to push. No offense > elizabeth, but I had no desire for a car birth 8-) Yeah! How wonderful.
> I, on the other hand, have had major complications due to extensive > blood loss and am living on my couch with a hemocrit of 6-ish (should be > 6 or 7 time higher). I was kept in the hospital till Tues night and have > only just started to get on top of stuff, specially since DS1 has been > home sick too. Yikes! Take care of yourself.
> > I promise to write the birth story sometime soon, but the bottom line > was the birth itself, although fast and furious, was perfect! 8-) I'm so glad. Welcome sweet Madeleina.
Mary W.
V. - 19 Nov 2005 13:22 GMT > G'day > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Nov 12th at 6:41 am after 3 hrs 20 mins of labor, including a speed down > the freeway with my bum in the air trying not to push. snip
congrats! Sounds like an adventurous birth, I look forward to reading the story. I'm eagerly awaiting my own Madeline, so it made me smile to see your Madeleina Venus name! Very pretty, and original without being *too* original, YKWIM? congrats again! Amy
Sidheag McCormack - 19 Nov 2005 14:55 GMT > Madeleina Venus (7 lb 7 ozs, 19.25") was born by a natural VBAC on Sat > Nov 12th at 6:41 am after 3 hrs 20 mins of labor, including a speed down > the freeway with my bum in the air trying not to push. No offense > elizabeth, but I had no desire for a car birth 8-) Congratulations! Homebirth next time? :-)
> She is beautiful of course, and had no problems other than a harried day > of phototherapy that resolved her bili levels faster than her ped would > believe (I know it was all the mummy milk I pushed on her during that > day). My milk came in on day 3 and we are nursing like pros. Yay!
> I, on the other hand, have had major complications due to extensive > blood loss and am living on my couch with a hemocrit of 6-ish (should be > 6 or 7 time higher). Are you sure that's really your haematocrit (percentage of blood volume occupied by red blood cells) as oppsed to your haemoglobin level (grams of haemoglobin per deciliter of blood)? My own haemoglobin was 6.2g/dL following a largish PPH, so I know how that feels, but I'm not completely convinced one can live with a haematocrit of 6%...
Hope you're soon feeling better, anyway.
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Ruth Shear - 20 Nov 2005 00:06 GMT G'day
> Congratulations! Homebirth next time? :-) haha. As attractive as that sounds to me, it's not clear I would still be alive if this all happened at home.
> > I, on the other hand, have had major complications due to extensive > > blood loss and am living on my couch with a hemocrit of 6-ish (should be [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > following a largish PPH, so I know how that feels, but I'm not completely > convinced one can live with a haematocrit of 6%... Well I'm not dead yet. They estimate a blood loss of 1.5 L.
A lot of numbers ran past me while I was in the hospital. It is true that they would quote me the "H&H" numbers (Hemocrit and Haemoglobin) each time and I maybe haven't kept them clear in my head, but I thought I had got it the right way around. I checked on the web to see what "normal" values should be and based on that and what I remember (which can indeed be questionable, other than I KNOW the final number was 6.something).
The "H" reading I am remembering was up at 42 before birth, plunged to around 20 at some point during the fuss, was watched with some consternation as it went down and down and though I thought that the last down reading (6.4 I think) was lower than the previous one (6.5), my OB was happy that it leveled out. Although various numbers looked bad - clinically I was not getting dizzy, light headed, pulse racing, I was good colour, my milk supply seemed unaffected, etc. So they let me go home as long as I promised to behave, live on fluids and iron supplements, liver and spinach, and not move off my sofa for weeks.
Over the course of several days I would take two steps forward, one back so to speak. As soon as one test was passed I would be ok for a while then something else would go wrong. I can't tell you how many times that the outcome of the next test would have decided whether or not to do a tranfusion. By the time I finally was given a get out of hospital free pass, then Madeleina had the bad bilirubin test. Sigh. I'm so glad we are out, but I'm really tired still..
> Hope you're soon feeling better, anyway. Thanks. I think it's going to take some time.
DrRuth
PS. I just spoke to my doula and got it sorted out. The problem was that the attending OB during the delivery and ensuing dramas was new school and talked in Hemocrit numbers (hence the 42) and my OB who is a little older and saw me over the following days of observation in the hospital talked in Haemoglobin. Now it all makes sense. Whatever the numbers I'm not in great shape.
Sidheag McCormack - 20 Nov 2005 12:06 GMT > Well I'm not dead yet. They estimate a blood loss of 1.5 L. Same here - though since there were an awful lot of clots that nobody but me ever saw, I suspect it was much more. (I thought in a back-of-envelope way that if one has Hb numbers from close enough together before and after the bleed, one ought to be able to work it out from that, but it's a bit imprecise, not least because the Hb numbers themselves have quite a large margin of error IIRC - i.e.two tests taken on the same occasion from the same person and tested separately can give surprisingly different numbers. Setting the imprecision apart, if, for example, one's Hb level halved, and one's blood volume stayed the same (because they were putting enough IV fluids in to replace the blood lost) then this ought to mean one lost half one's total blood volume, I think. That's a bit scary, since that's approximately what happened to me, and presumably you! I can console myself by saying that I don't actually know what my Hb was immediately before labour, and it's quite possible it was low then, which would reduce the volume of blood I must have lost.)
> Although various numbers looked bad > - clinically I was not getting dizzy, light headed, pulse racing, I was > good colour, my milk supply seemed unaffected, etc. So they let me go > home as long as I promised to behave, live on fluids and iron > supplements, liver and spinach, and not move off my sofa for weeks. Yeah, sounds very like my experience. The midwife told me my 6.2 result, and said "they'll want you to have a transfusion, and that'll mean staying over another night". Since I'd transferred from a homebirth, had only reluctantly stayed over one night, and knew that if I had to stay another they wouldn't let DH stay with me, that was very bad news. They sent the registrar down to talk to me, and to my surprise she was very nice. Checked that I had no symptoms of impending fatality :-) and told me that if I was able to walk out of the hospital she reckoned that was a sign it was reasonable for me to do so. I did, though I had to stop frequently to hold onto things!
I really did do bedrest for a week, and took things very easily for several weeks, and absolutely needed to - I spent a lot of time feeling horribly dizzy, that's the main thing I remember. Come my 8 week check I was feeling fine again (tired, but not obviously more than other sleep-deprived new mothers), but my Hb was still only 8.4. My main problem was that I don't eat meat (fundamentally enough that eating it as medicine didn't feel like an option) and never found any supplement I could tolerate. Haven't had my blood tested since then, but look and feel fine.
Btw, *don't* eat spinach - although it technically has lots of iron, it has something else in it that means the iron in it is not bioavailable (phytic acid? that may well not be right) Popeye has a lot to answer for :-) Other green vegetables are much better for iron. Dark chocolate is good too, believe it or not! I assume you know about having things rich in vitamin C along with your iron rich things and supplements, and avoiding tea, coffee or things with lots of calcium at those times, since the former aid absorption and the latter inhibit it?
> PS. I just spoke to my doula and got it sorted out. The problem was that > the attending OB during the delivery and ensuing dramas was new school > and talked in Hemocrit numbers (hence the 42) and my OB who is a little > older and saw me over the following days of observation in the hospital > talked in Haemoglobin. Now it all makes sense. Whatever the numbers I'm > not in great shape. Ah, I wondered if it might be something like that.
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Ruth Shear - 21 Nov 2005 05:58 GMT G'day
> That's a bit scary, since that's > approximately what happened to me, and presumably you! Yep - definitely a little disconcerting.
> I can console myself > by saying that I don't actually know what my Hb was immediately before > labour, and it's quite possible it was low then, which would reduce the > volume of blood I must have lost.) Well they say that close to delivery your plasma volume increases so your hemocrit is lower than normal.. Anyway I am off to the OB tomorrow and am going to ask her for a copy of the printout she showed me with all my CBC levels each time they measured it.
> I really did do bedrest for a week, and took things very easily for several > weeks, and absolutely needed to - I spent a lot of time feeling horribly > dizzy, that's the main thing I remember. Come my 8 week check I was feeling > fine again (tired, but not obviously more than other sleep-deprived new > mothers), but my Hb was still only 8.4. Thanks for this - it gives me at least an idea of how long it could take to recuperate. At the moment they are just telling me "weeks".
> Btw, *don't* eat spinach - although it technically has lots of iron, it has > something else in it that means the iron in it is not bioavailable (phytic > acid? that may well not be right) Popeye has a lot to answer for :-) Other > green vegetables are much better for iron. Interesting - I'll look into this.
> Dark chocolate is good too, believe it or not! 8-)
> I assume you know about having things rich in vitamin C > along with your iron rich things and supplements, and avoiding tea, coffee > or things with lots of calcium at those times, since the former aid > absorption and the latter inhibit it? Yes I had heard both of those things, though I believe it is tannin that is the inhibitor.
DrRuth
Ericka Kammerer - 21 Nov 2005 13:51 GMT > G'day
>>Btw, *don't* eat spinach - although it technically has lots of iron, it has >>something else in it that means the iron in it is not bioavailable (phytic >>acid? that may well not be right) Popeye has a lot to answer for :-) Other >>green vegetables are much better for iron. > > Interesting - I'll look into this. Apparently, it's a complicated dance involving several different substances in spinach that contributes to the bio-availability of the iron. However, the bottom line is that there are significantly better sources of iron when you take bio-availability into account. Cooking the spinach does make the iron significantly more bio-available, so if you like cooked spinach you're in luck.
Best wishes, Ericka
Chookie - 22 Nov 2005 05:20 GMT > > I really did do bedrest for a week, and took things very easily for several > > weeks, and absolutely needed to - I spent a lot of time feeling horribly [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Thanks for this - it gives me at least an idea of how long it could take > to recuperate. At the moment they are just telling me "weeks". After DS1's birth (eclampsia with haemolysis and a PPH too), I felt OK once I was home, but my haemoglobin didn't return to normal for 9 months. The ferritin hit borderline normal at 18 months and just sat there. Yes, I eat red meat, and yes, I was supplementing. Depends very much on your own physiology, I think.
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Anne Rogers - 21 Nov 2005 17:39 GMT > Yeah, sounds very like my experience. The midwife told me my 6.2 result, > and said "they'll want you to have a transfusion, and that'll mean staying [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > reasonable for me to do so. I did, though I had to stop frequently to hold > onto things! did you wish you had had one later? the majority of people I know who have had PPH have initially been really against having a transfusion for whatever reason, then have gone home and regretted it, those who have had a transfusion have seemed much better, much faster. Having seen it happen to quite a few people, I think if there was a doubt as to whether it was needed or not, despite wanting to go home etc. I think I'd actually say pump the stuff in, though I wouldn't have said that 2 years ago.
Anne
Chookie - 22 Nov 2005 05:24 GMT > did you wish you had had one later? the majority of people I know who have > had PPH have initially been really against having a transfusion for whatever [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > or not, despite wanting to go home etc. I think I'd actually say pump the > stuff in, though I wouldn't have said that 2 years ago. IIRC the hospital where I had DS2 will transfuse if your haemoglobin drops below 6. Mine was 6.7 or something, so I missed out. The first time I had 2 bags transfused in, and really, I could have done with three. The problem is, blood supplies are low, and I wasn't about to die.
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Sidheag McCormack - 22 Nov 2005 11:42 GMT [Sidheag wrote: - please, Anne, could you say whom you're quoting when you quote?]
>> Yeah, sounds very like my experience. The midwife told me my 6.2 result, >> and said "they'll want you to have a transfusion, and that'll mean [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> a sign it was reasonable for me to do so. I did, though I had to stop >> frequently to hold onto things!
> did you wish you had had one later? the majority of people I know who > have had PPH have initially been really against having a transfusion for [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > actually say pump the stuff in, though I wouldn't have said that 2 years > ago. No, because of the fact that having a transfusion would have involved another night's stay in hospital, and without my DH, which I would have found very very difficult to tolerate (I hate hate hate hospitals). If that factor hadn't been involved...? More difficult. I think no, still, in my particular circumstances. (For example, including the fact that I knew I had no other children to look after and that I would have several weeks of lots of help at home, so that taking it easy was practicable.) I'm a bit leery of blood products because I wonder what the next blood-transmissible disease that they don't yet screen for is going to turn out to be. I'm not aware of any particular risk of allowing one's blood to return to normal gradually over weeks/months, apart from the obvious risk of not feeling too good in the process, and I am aware of blood transfusion as a risk of ending up with a disease. I've heard it said that being anaemic can increase the chance of not having enough milk for the baby, but I've also heard that contradicted. If that were true, I suppose it would be a risk of not accepting the transfusion. FWIW, I had no such problem. (I've never heard it cited as a reason for failing to let down for a pump despite having good supply, before you ask, but that of course would be interesting!)
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Hillary Israeli - 22 Nov 2005 22:13 GMT *following a largish PPH, so I know how that feels, but I'm not completely *convinced one can live with a haematocrit of 6%...
I've seen breathing, conscious puppies and kittens with hematocrits of 6ish... damn fleas.
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cjorp@yahoo.com - 19 Nov 2005 16:04 GMT > Madeleina Venus (7 lb 7 ozs, 19.25") was born by a natural VBAC on Sat > Nov 12th at 6:41 am after 3 hrs 20 mins of labor Congrats!
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Anonymama - 19 Nov 2005 17:17 GMT > G'day > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Nov 12th at 6:41 am after 3 hrs 20 mins of labor, including a speed down > the freeway with my bum in the air trying not to push. Felicitations!
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Spanannie - 19 Nov 2005 19:55 GMT Congratulations Ruth and family! Wow, J was right all along! I'm sure he's very excited about her middle name!
I'm so glad you got the VBAC that you had wanted, and hope you are feeling better soon!
Annie
> G'day > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > DrRuth Ruth Shear - 20 Nov 2005 04:54 GMT G'day
> Congratulations Ruth and family! Wow, J was right all along! One of the first things he said to me: "See I knew she was a girl mummy!"
> I'm sure he's very excited about her middle name! We just couldn't not use it when it came time. It has grown on me over the months. He actually doesn't like her first name because he had already decided her name would be Eliza (from the book Hello Baby), so we've told him that her official nickname is Eliza, and he can call her Eliza or Venus, and one day he might call her Leina, or Madeleina, because that's the name she picked for herself.
> I'm so glad you got the VBAC that you had wanted, and hope you are > feeling better soon! Thanks. Despite all the stuff I've been through in the past few days I just have been so over the moon that the birth was everything I wanted it to be (just a little faster than was necessary).
DrRuth
Spanannie - 20 Nov 2005 05:11 GMT Josh is precious...I'm so glad that the adjustment is going well for him!
Annie
> G'day > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > DrRuth Larissa - 19 Nov 2005 20:34 GMT Congratulations on the arrival of your little girl! I am glad the VBAC went well.
REst up, I am looking forward to reading your story. I hope you are being well looked after.
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Anne Rogers - 19 Nov 2005 20:42 GMT Many congratulations Ruth, bummer about the blood loss, hope your levels get up soon
Anne
A&G&K&H - 19 Nov 2005 23:21 GMT > G'day > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > DrRuth Congratulations Ruth and welcome to the lovely Madeleina Venus. Such a beautiful name for a beautiful girl. Is DS just loving her and being a protective big brother?
I'm glad to hear that she is doing so well. Just get well yourself now. Amanda
Ruth Shear - 20 Nov 2005 04:51 GMT G'day
Amanda wrote:
> Is DS just loving her and being a protective big brother? Totally! So far every interaction between them has been so loving and beautiful. This morning I was in the bathroom and heard Madeleina wake up and start making cute baby noises. About five minutes later I hear Josh.. "Good morning Venus - it's your big brother Joshua." and then lots of quiet little talking about having a good sleep and nice dreams and all that stuff. Very very cute.
DrRuth
Spanannie - 20 Nov 2005 05:10 GMT Awwww. I love that.
Annie
> G'day > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > DrRuth A&G&K&H - 20 Nov 2005 09:07 GMT > G'day > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > lots of quiet little talking about having a good sleep and nice dreams > and all that stuff. Very very cute. Awww ....Its the stuff the older sibling says when they don't think anybody is listening which is the best :) Amanda
PattyMomVA - 21 Nov 2005 21:59 GMT > "Ruth Shear" <DrRuth@mail.utexas.edu> wrote and I snipped: >> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >> >> DrRuth Congrats, Ruth! I hope you're feeling yourself very soon.
Your DD has a beautiful name. It's so sweet you could allow DS to partly name her.
-Patty, mom of 1+2
Jamie Clark - 20 Nov 2005 00:03 GMT Whooo hooo! Congrats! Tell me about your name choice? You don't hear Venus very often...although oddly enough, a woman in my Mom's Group name is Venus. Just curious. Madeleina is a beautiful name!
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Ruth Shear - 20 Nov 2005 10:04 GMT G'day
> Tell me about your name choice? You don't hear > Venus very often...although oddly enough, a woman in my Mom's Group name is > Venus. Just curious. Madeleina is a beautiful name! When we told my son that my embryo was now a fetus, my husband told him that we used to call him "Cletus the fetus" before he was born. DS asked what was the name of this new fetus. DH suggested that DS name it. I held my breath because DS has done some pretty interesting naming in the past - three of his fish are named PlantBed, Fence and Sank. And then DS announced that her name was Venus the Fetus.
He knew about planet names. He had no idea this was actually a real girl's name. I told him that was beautiful, but in my head thought although it's a great fetus name, I'd never actually use that as a real name.
Josh talked to Venus every day. I spent a lot of time, especially in the last few months gently reminding him that Venus might be a boy, which he would counter by talking to my belly "Venus, it's your big brother Joshua, do you have a penis?" <waits, listening> "No mummy she says there is no penis in there." He had me converted and I called my fetus Venus and referred to it as feminine for the first 8 months or so, but then switched to calling it male for the last month to get myself used to that possibility. I worried about possible tantrums at the moment of birth if I had DS there (which I wanted) but if Venus was a boy.
I had a girl. It was so fast that DS wasn't there. I was in surgery and missed the first meeting of DS and DD, but when he saw me for the first time, he said "See I was right all the time mummy".
We took the full TX allowance of five days to name her, spending a lot of that time dealing with my complications. I called her Venus and MissyMoo an awful lot. By naming time we couldn't ignore the name Venus. I originally thought that only a particular sort of woman who was very strong could carry off that name. I decided that my daughter could very well be that woman, and now she has the choice whether to use that name or not.
I call her Venus most of the time now. DS does too because he actually is mad that we didn't name her "eliza" (like they do in the book Hello Baby), but my husband just thinks of the biochemistry ELISA test when he hears that name.
Madeleina was the name on our short list of girl names that seemed to fit her the best. We chose the spelling over Madelena, to guide pronounciation (Lay-na, not Leena), and because we prefer the nickname Leina to Maddy.
DrRuth
Cocoamum - 20 Nov 2005 10:23 GMT Ruth Shear skrev:
> We took the full TX allowance of five days to name her, spending a lot > of that time dealing with my complications. Five days????
We have six months in Denmark.
I've heard they have 24 hours in France.
We named our daughter after seing what personality she had. I wouldn't have been able to do that after 3-5 days. We babtized (and thereby named) her at 6 weeks, and that's very early here.
Tine, Denmark
Ericka Kammerer - 20 Nov 2005 14:38 GMT > Ruth Shear skrev: > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > We have six months in Denmark. More likely, this is a hospital policy rather than a legal requirement to name the baby within a certain amount of time. The hospital has to register the birth, but can register the baby as "Baby Boy Smith" or whatever and the parents can file the official paperwork later. If you go later than the hospital's deadline, you have to fill out all the paperwork and go to the appropriate offices yourself, which can be less convenient. And, you can't claim the child as a tax deduction until you've submitted all the information and received a SSN. It's possible that Texas has a law requiring naming in that short a time, but it would be the first I've heard of such a law. The hospitals are often very pushy (and sometimes give inaccurate information) about needing to get the baby named Right Now.
Best wishes, Ericka
Donna Metler - 20 Nov 2005 15:38 GMT > > Ruth Shear skrev: > > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > inaccurate information) about needing to get the > baby named Right Now. If you check the official SSA website, "Baby" has been in the top 1000 names every year since 1990, so obviously some parents aren't naming their child right away. (I seriously doubt that there are children going to kindergarten with the name "Baby"-at least, I've never had one in any of the schools I've taught in!).
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> Best wishes, > Ericka Cocoamum - 20 Nov 2005 15:49 GMT Ericka Kammerer skrev:
> More likely, this is a hospital policy rather than > a legal requirement to name the baby within a certain amount [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > inaccurate information) about needing to get the > baby named Right Now. We get no deduction, but we get some check from the 1st of the next quarter after the baby is born. Regardsless of name or not.
The hospital doesn't report the birth - the parents do. The hospital may do something too, but the parents have to do it. With or without name. This has to happen within three days, but the kids is registered as 'Girl Mom's Surname' until it gets a name.
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Jamie Clark - 21 Nov 2005 06:37 GMT Very cute story. Thanks for sharing it.
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Irrational Number - 20 Nov 2005 12:16 GMT > Madeleina Venus (7 lb 7 ozs, 19.25") was born by a natural VBAC on Sat > Nov 12th at 6:41 am after 3 hrs 20 mins of labor, including a speed down > the freeway with my bum in the air trying not to push. No offense > elizabeth, but I had no desire for a car birth 8-) Congratulations, Ruth! Take care of yourself.
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Andrea S - 20 Nov 2005 19:06 GMT "Ruth Shear" > wrote in message ...
> G'day > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Nov 12th at 6:41 am after 3 hrs 20 mins of labor, including a speed down > the freeway with my bum in the air trying not to push.
> > DrRuth Congrats to you!!!
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donna - 21 Nov 2005 16:17 GMT WTG and Welcome Madeleina
> G'day > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > DrRuth Nikki - 21 Nov 2005 22:55 GMT > G'day > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Nov 12th at 6:41 am after 3 hrs 20 mins of labor, including a speed > down the freeway Wow :-D. Congrats and welcome baby Madeleina. Very pretty name. Hope you are feeling better soon!
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Chookie - 22 Nov 2005 05:09 GMT > Madeleina Venus (7 lb 7 ozs, 19.25") was born by a natural VBAC on Sat > Nov 12th at 6:41 am after 3 hrs 20 mins of labor, including a speed down [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > DrRuth Congratulations!!
I didn't have a big PPH this time myself (probably 500ml), but I felt like sitting around for a fair while afterwards. Dunno if you can get FAB Iron over there, but it has really helped me build up my iron, and without too many unpleasant side effects.
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Irene - 22 Nov 2005 15:45 GMT Congratulations, and welcome, Madeleina!
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Mum of Two - 23 Nov 2005 00:28 GMT > G'day > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > I promise to write the birth story sometime soon, but the bottom line > was the birth itself, although fast and furious, was perfect! 8-) Congratulations on a great birth and a new daughter! I hope you're feeling better soon.
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Emily - 24 Nov 2005 04:04 GMT Congratulations on the rapid arrival of Madeleina Venus! I hope that your recovery continues to go well, and will be interested to read the longer story.
IKWYM (from another thread) about the educational aspect. I don't bring my kids on campus so much, but they tend to be very evident (e.g., photos on the wallpaper of my laptop which gets projected when I lecture from slides). I like to think that by being visible about being a mom and a professor I'm helping students imagine various ways of balancing home & work life.
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New York Jen - 25 Nov 2005 08:39 GMT > G'day > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > DrRuth Wow! Congratulations! How does your son like his new little baby sis?
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