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Family Forum / Pregnancy / Breastfeeding / September 200615 month checkup
Went in for shots & checkup today. He ended up not getting the MMR because she was concerned about his allergies & we decided just to wait a bit. Alexander only gained 7 ounces in the last 3 months (he now weighs 21lbs 14oz) and that has her concerned. She wants me to add more fatty foods to his diet. I still nurse him on demand (which is quite a lot during the day & also at night). We can't give him milk products because he is very allergic (if you put it on his skin he gets hives like crazy) so she suggested high calorie foods like avocado. He's not really thrilled with avocado but I can try mixing it with something else and see if that helps. He grew 1 inch, so he is now 32 1/2 and his head circumference is 19 3/4.  SignatureRebecca Jo Mama to Alexander 6/6/05 Whoops. Meant to add that the doctor scolded me for night nursing and told me that if I let him nurse at night he's going to get cavities. She said that "oriental people" used to let their kids nurse at night and you would look in their mouths and see "tiny black nubs" where their teeth should be. Everything I've read indicates that unless there is a sign of a problem, like the child getting a lot of cavities, it is okay to nightnurse. rebecca Total hooey about the night nursing. I had a doctor once tell me that I needed to completely wean my 2 yr old because she'd have cavities. Doctors are SO misinformed about bf'ing it's scary. > Whoops. Meant to add that the doctor scolded me for night nursing and told > me that if I let him nurse at night he's going to get cavities. She said [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > rebecca > Total hooey about the night nursing. I had a doctor once tell me that I > needed to completely wean my 2 yr old because she'd have cavities. > Doctors are SO misinformed about bf'ing it's scary. yeah. it's pretty irritating to deal with. rj > Whoops. Meant to add that the doctor scolded me for night nursing and told > me that if I let him nurse at night he's going to get cavities. She said [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Everything I've read indicates that unless there is a sign of a problem, > like the child getting a lot of cavities, it is okay to nightnurse. If I were you, I would probably just tell the doctor he's night weaned, as I told Lorelei's dentist yesterday. :-) Nothing you say is ever going to convince him that bf is not at fault if baby should develop cavities. William had a severe case of "baby bottle teeth" and has been toothless in fron for quite awhile now. But I night nursed all my babies, and he's the only one who had a problem. The enamel began chipping off his teeth almost as soon as they emerged. I'm convinced it was congenital. Leslie > If I were you, I would probably just tell the doctor he's night weaned, > as I told Lorelei's dentist yesterday. :-) Nothing you say is ever > going to convince him that bf is not at fault if baby should develop > cavities. nods. My husband said just nod and agree and then do what we want anyway. It's frustrating. > William had a severe case of "baby bottle teeth" and has been toothless > in fron for quite awhile now. But I night nursed all my babies, and > he's the only one who had a problem. The enamel began chipping off his > teeth almost as soon as they emerged. I'm convinced it was congenital. > > Leslie nods. Thanks! rj Wow your experience sounds so much like mine! At Connor's 15 month checkup he actually hadn't gained so much as an ounce from his last checkup (he was holding steady at 23 lbs 12 oz). He also has milk allergies and so drinks soy milk and nurses. He only nurses a couple of times a day though (which my ped gives me crap about because I'm also pregnant and she's sure I'm depriving that baby of nutrients). Anyway she did say though not to worry about Connor's growth because kids have different growth curves and as long as he's eating well, meeting developmental milestones, etc. If you have a Wild Oats or other natural food store near you there are a lot of dairy alternative products (like soy or rice cheeses etc) that don't taste too badly especially if you cook them into things. Melissa Walton Mom to Connor born 05/24/05 > Wow your experience sounds so much like mine! At Connor's 15 month > checkup he actually hadn't gained so much as an ounce from his last [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > different growth curves and as long as he's eating well, meeting > developmental milestones, etc. nods. She seemed way more concerned about his weight gain than I am. I'm definitely going to add some more high-calorie foods but I'm not going to obsess about it. > If you have a Wild Oats or other natural food store near you there are a > lot of dairy alternative products (like soy or rice cheeses etc) that > don't taste too badly especially if you cook them into things. Yeah, he drinks the enriched rice milk with milk right now. I need to find more ways to increase his calorie intake. We end up eating a lot of chicken and rice. She suggested sweet potatoes, which he loves, so I'm going to give him a lot of that from now on too. Glad I'm not the only one! rebecca HI -- I've noticed that yes, when there are no milk products in the diet, it gets a bit harder to put enough fat in the child's diet. But you can cook with olive oil (a very healthy fat), see if he likes tinned fish (salmon and sardines in oil, and they also have lots of calcium) ... My milk-allergic son LOVES Benecol on his bread and on his veggies ... Some parents do find that their kids do better when the night nursing is limited or eliminated. I'm not sure why, but I've heard it enough (anecdotally) that you may, in fact, want to consider cutting down on it. Maybe it's just that if he sleeps with fewer interruptions he'll grow more. Or maybe if he's forced to consume his calories during the day his tummy will become capable of holding more at a go? Just guessing. But it's also true that many babies' weight gain tapers for a while right after they learn to walk. He's got to learn to consume enough food to account for all the calories he's suddenly consuming by being on his feet. I hope these random comments help, --Beth Kevles bethkevles@aol.com http://web.mit.edu/kevles/www/nomilk.html -- a page for the milk-allergic Disclaimer: Nothing in this message should be construed as medical advice. Please consult with your own medical practicioner. NOTE: No email is read at my MIT address. Use the AOL one if you would like me to reply. > HI -- > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > (salmon and sardines in oil, and they also have lots of calcium) ... My > milk-allergic son LOVES Benecol on his bread and on his veggies ... Yeah, I'm going to start cooking things in olive oil. > Some parents do find that their kids do better when the night nursing is > limited or eliminated. I'm not sure why, but I've heard it enough [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > day his tummy will become capable of holding more at a go? Just > guessing. He does eat a lot during the day already. He sits down for 2 meals, lunch and dinner, and eats snacks throughout the day. It's just not higher-calorie stuff. > But it's also true that many babies' weight gain tapers for a while > right after they learn to walk. He's got to learn to consume enough > food to account for all the calories he's suddenly consuming by being on > his feet. > > I hope these random comments help, They do, Thanks! rj > HI -- > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > NOTE: No email is read at my MIT address. Use the AOL one if you would > like me to reply. I have to second that, Beth. We have just been night weaning my 16 month old and his daytime appetite has almost tripled in the last week! It didn't work for us the last time we tried it (about 10 months), but this time it has. I think before he just wasn't ready, and now he is. It's worth a try. As for high calories, I also will second the avocado, olive oil and sweet potato. I remember Jenrose also had success with coconut milk/cream. What else...? I found that offering *something* every hour meant that he was topping up his energy during the day and having a 'meal' at the usual times as well. Distraction works sometimes, too. However your bub is bigger than my bub, and it could be all genetics anyway. :) HTH! Jo SignatureWoman, Wife, Mother, Midwife > I have to second that, Beth. We have just been night weaning my 16 month > old and his daytime appetite has almost tripled in the last week! It > didn't work for us the last time we tried it (about 10 months), but this > time it has. I think before he just wasn't ready, and now he is. It's > worth a try. that's fantastic to hear Jo, I'm really pleased it's working for others, it seems to be a combo of things that makes it work, firstly, babies need to sleep to grow, that's why they sleep so much! If they are waking several times a night, that's likely 1-2hrs of sleep that they are missing out on. Secondly, it does seem to have an effect on their day time appetite, likely effect is to not much reduce the amount of breast milk consumed, but bump up the amount of solids. Cheers Anne > I have to second that, Beth. We have just been night weaning my 16 month > old and his daytime appetite has almost tripled in the last week! It > didn't work for us the last time we tried it (about 10 months), but this > time it has. I think before he just wasn't ready, and now he is. It's > worth a try. I'm glad this has worked for you. Alexander eats a lot during the day already. It's just that the things he eats aren't particularly high-calorie. He eats a lot of rice and chicken. He already loves sweet potato. I'll start cooking everything in olive oil and try to find some way to make avocado so that he likes it. He snacks on apples and strawberries and rice cereal all day long. It seems like he's constantly eating. > As for high calories, I also will second the avocado, olive oil and sweet > potato. I remember Jenrose also had success with coconut milk/cream. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > HTH! Thanks for the tips! rj > Went in for shots & checkup today. He ended up not getting the MMR because > she was concerned about his allergies & we decided just to wait a bit. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > He grew 1 inch, so he is now 32 1/2 and his head circumference is 19 3/4. You'll want to doublecheck (I'm not tottering my way into the kitchen at the moment, sorry), but I think Pediasure makes a lactose free drink, and we started doing a few of those a day with Sproglette when her weight wouldn't respond. We're down to 1 a day from 3 or 4 a day and she's something like...26 pounds and 33 inches at 28 months? Sounds about right. They're a couple hundred calories a bottle, and they've got a lot of good stuff and decent flavors. Sproglette's favorite is the banana cream. Jess > You'll want to doublecheck (I'm not tottering my way into the kitchen at > the moment, sorry), but I think Pediasure makes a lactose free drink, and [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Jess His milk allergy isn't a lactose problem. He's allergic to the proteins in the milk, so lactose-free milk still isn't safe. Thanks for the suggestion though! :) rj > His milk allergy isn't a lactose problem. He's allergic to the proteins in > the milk, so lactose-free milk still isn't safe. > > Thanks for the suggestion though! :) Still might give them a look, see what options you have. There's also someone else here that's the Goddess of spiking calories, but damned if I can remember who at the moment. Jess > Still might give them a look, see what options you have. There's also > someone else here that's the Goddess of spiking calories, but damned if I > can remember who at the moment. > > Jess Yeah, I checked out their website. All of their products have milk in them. Jenrose had good luck, I remember. I should look up some of her posts & see what she tried besides coconut milk. Thanks! rj > Went in for shots & checkup today. He ended up not getting the MMR because > she was concerned about his allergies & we decided just to wait a bit. DS1 has life-threatening allergy to egg & nuts as well as many other allergies. not sure about where you are, but here in australia, DS1 goes to the emergency department in our local hospital to get his MMR shot. Signatureelizabeth (in australia) - moving in 4 sleeps! mum to DS1 "cheese" (4 yrs) & DS2 "chalk" (1yo in 3 sleeps!) "Dog for sale: eats anything and is fond of children" - Classified Ad "If you're ever in doubt, throw a pepper in the air. If it fails to come down, you have gone mad, so don't trust in anything." - Gregory Maguire, "Mirror Mirror" > DS1 has life-threatening allergy to egg & nuts as well as many other > allergies. not sure about where you are, but here in australia, DS1 goes > to the emergency department in our local hospital to get his MMR shot. We're in the United States, Florida to be exact. Our doctor wants us to try giving him eggs. I'll put some on his cheek and then give him a small amount and see what happens. Thanks :) rj >> DS1 has life-threatening allergy to egg & nuts as well as many other >> allergies. not sure about where you are, but here in australia, DS1 [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Thanks :) > rj I'd try another area of skin rather than on the face - I'd just want to stay away from the airway if you suspect a major reaction. Try on the inside of the forearm or somewhere else sensitive - not on the face. Just a suggestion! Jo SignatureWoman, Wife, Mother, Midwife > I'd try another area of skin rather than on the face - I'd just want to > stay away from the airway if you suspect a major reaction. Try on the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Jo Thanks for the tip! rj >>I'd try another area of skin rather than on the face - I'd just want to >>stay away from the airway if you suspect a major reaction. Try on the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Thanks for the tip! > rj when we test a suspected allergen on DS1, we rub a bit on his chest. if no reaction, then we try around mouth. then if still no reaction, we try to get him to eat it. Signatureelizabeth (in australia) - moving in 2 sleeps! mum to DS1 "cheese" (4 yrs) & DS2 "chalk" (1yo in 1 sleeps!) "Dog for sale: eats anything and is fond of children" - Classified Ad "If you're ever in doubt, throw a pepper in the air. If it fails to come down, you have gone mad, so don't trust in anything." - Gregory Maguire, "Mirror Mirror" |
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