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Julie - 10 Nov 2007 19:24 GMT Hi, I'm Julie, and I found out about this group through a search engine. My 9 month old baby girl is on a nursing strike. She has a cold, and the first day she had it she tried eating and couldn't breath. She ended up biting me really hard, and my mom had told me if she does that to say OUCH so she would know. Well, instead of it preventing her biting, she's not eating at all. She absolutely refuses to nurse, and throws a fit when I try. I could deal with that, but she is hardly drinking anything. She doesn't like bottles, and doesn't drink enough from a cup. She's been SO FUSSY for a couple days now, and I don't know how to get her to nurse again. Can anyone help????
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Julie - 10 Nov 2007 19:26 GMT I also wanted to mention, she only had three barely wet diapers yesterday. I know she's not getting enough fluids. I try to give her a cup of breastmilk every chance I get, but its obviously not enough.... I don't know what to do..........
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Hi, I'm Julie, and I found out about this group through a search engine. My 9 month old baby girl is on a nursing strike. She has a cold, and the first day she had it she tried eating and couldn't breath. She ended up biting me really hard, and my mom had told me if she does that to say OUCH so she would know. Well, instead of it preventing her biting, she's not eating at all. She absolutely refuses to nurse, and throws a fit when I try. I could deal with that, but she is hardly drinking anything. She doesn't like bottles, and doesn't drink enough from a cup. She's been SO FUSSY for a couple days now, and I don't know how to get her to nurse again. Can anyone help????
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Anne Rogers - 11 Nov 2007 06:04 GMT > I also wanted to mention, she only had three barely wet diapers > yesterday. I know she's not getting enough fluids. I try to give her a > cup of breastmilk every chance I get, but its obviously not enough.... I > don't know what to do.......... I already replied including watch her carefully, babies need help sooner than older children with simple illnesses. I think with only 3 barely wet nappies, you should alert you pediatrician, they may want to see her, or they may be able to suggest other observations to determine whether she needs the help of IV fluids or not. There is also pedialyte, it's a drink with all the right salts and minerals in to rehydrate a child, I'm not sure at what stage you should give that instead of breastmilk.
Cheers Anne
betsy - 11 Nov 2007 02:36 GMT > Hi, I'm Julie, and I found out about this group through a search engine. My 9 month old baby girl is on a nursing strike. I'm so sorry. That must be really tough for both of you.
Have you tried nursing her when she is asleep? Try to pick a time when her nose is as clear as possible and see if you can latch her on when she stirs.
She has a cold, and the first day she had it she tried eating and couldn't breath. She ended up biting me really hard, and my mom had told me if she does that to say OUCH so she would know. Well, instead of it preventing her biting, she's not eating at all. She absolutely refuses to nurse, and throws a fit when I try.
The OUCH thing seems to work well with some babies, but can be traumatic for others. Often they can't seem to help biting when they are trying to nurse and have plugged up noses. Babies often understand more than we think. Have you tried talking to her about what happened, explaining that you didn't mean to upset her when you said "ouch" and telling her that you are sorry and won't do it again?
Have you tried lots of skin to skin contact and cuddling without any pressure to nurse? If you can get her to feel calm and relaxed with skin to skin contact and cuddling, it may help her to get over the trauma and be ready to nurse again.
Are you able to get her nose clear enough for her to nurse if she tries?
Some breastfed babies who won't take a bottle seem to do well with the "Avent Magic Cup" with the softer white spout option. If you try this you can tell your daughter that it is OK for biting.
It sounds like you are pumping now, which is good. If you don't have a high quality pump, and she doesn't go back to nursing quickly, you may want to rent a really good one.
--Betsy
Julie - 11 Nov 2007 06:29 GMT Thank you so much! Yes, she nurses in her sleep just fine... I hope she will when she wakes up, now... I'm so relieved... TYTY!
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>> Hi, I'm Julie, and I found out about this group through a search engine. >> My 9 month old baby girl is on a nursing strike. [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > --Betsy betsy - 11 Nov 2007 14:51 GMT > Thank you so much! Yes, she nurses in her sleep just fine... I hope she will > when she wakes up, now... I'm so relieved... TYTY! > > -- I'm very glad for you. If she isn't ready to nurse while awake yet, experiencing some slow, gentle, natural wakings while nursing will probably get her over the trauma enough to begin nursing while awake.
--Betsy
Julie - 12 Nov 2007 00:30 GMT Thank you, Betsy. I've been trying this today, and it seems to be helping. She's doing a little better, but still not perfect. Thanks for all your help...
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>> Thank you so much! Yes, she nurses in her sleep just fine... I hope she >> will [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > --Betsy Anne Rogers - 11 Nov 2007 06:01 GMT > Hi, I'm Julie, and I found out about this group through a search engine. > My 9 month old baby girl is on a nursing strike. She has a cold, and the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > been SO FUSSY for a couple days now, and I don't know how to get her to > nurse again. Can anyone help???? don't worry that you saying OUCH is what has put her off, it will be the cold, if you couldn't breath through your nose, you wouldn't want to nurse. She's fussy because she's ill - there are no magic solutions to this, you can help her to breath more easily, either by having her in a steamy room, or by dropping saline in her nose to try and clear it up before offering a feed. You can play with the times you offer her the breast, offering when she's just waking up, or maybe even still asleep. I'd be inclined to try a nice warm bath with her, both of you get in, have some skin to skin contact, the steaminess should help her breath more easily and she may initiate nursing. You should try and maintain your supply by pumping, so it is available for her when she wants it - my mum lost her supply when my sister had a severe cold at this age, she had no advice or help about how to maintain a supply and encourage nursing. Keep offering her the cup, but make sure it's one that doesn't have a valve, if it does, the action will be very similar to bottle or breast and she'll probably struggle. Chances are she'll be absolutely fine, but do keep an eye on her, babies need help for simple illnesses sooner than older children or healthy adults.
Cheers Anne
Julie - 12 Nov 2007 00:32 GMT Thanks, Anne... I know that she was frustrated because she couldn't breathe, and that's why she bit me. Maybe it was a combination of both things, I don't know. I know I won't say OUCH again, though... I might try the bath thing, though. Thanks for the suggestion! :) I'll do anything I can to get her to eating again.
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>> Hi, I'm Julie, and I found out about this group through a search engine. >> My 9 month old baby girl is on a nursing strike. She has a cold, and the [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > Cheers > Anne Linda - 12 Nov 2007 01:15 GMT > Thanks, Anne... > I know that she was frustrated because she couldn't breathe, and that's > why she bit me. Maybe it was a combination of both things, I don't know. I > know I won't say OUCH again, though... I might try the bath thing, though. > Thanks for the suggestion! :) I'll do anything I can to get her to eating > again. :-/ Hi Julie, glad she seems to be doing better now. Just an idea on the Ouch thing - I read in one of my books that when the baby bites to pull their head in close right squashed up onto the breast so they are uncomfortable and push themselves away through natural reflexes. This seemed to help with my DD although it's hard to make sure you dont' flinch at the same time due to the biting!
Beth Kevles - 12 Nov 2007 03:34 GMT Hi --
Sometimes when one has a cold, one gets the kind of sore throat that makes it painful to swallow. Painful ears can do the same thing, I think. So if your baby-with-cold goes on a nursing strike, there are several things you can try:
1. Try to get her nose clear before nursing so she can breathe. A trip to a steamy bathroom, nasal suction, or a bit of saline into the nose may help. 2. Provide anti-pain medication 30-60 minutes before nursing. 3. If baby is getting dehydrated, get fluids in however necessary. Try a spoon or a cup. Dehydration is very risky for infants. 4. If the diaper count drops for too long, or if baby develops fever or other worrisome symptoms, call the baby's doctor promptly.
Good luck, --Beth Kevles bethkevles@gmail.PUT-THE-COM-HERE http://web.mit.edu/kevles/www/nomilk.html -- a page for the milk-allergic Disclaimer: Nothing in this message should be construed as medical advice. Please consult with your own medical practicioner.
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betsy - 12 Nov 2007 04:03 GMT > Hi Julie, glad she seems to be doing better now. Just an idea on the Ouch > thing - I read in one of my books that when the baby bites to pull their > head in close right squashed up onto the breast so they are uncomfortable > and push themselves away through natural reflexes. This seemed to help with > my DD although it's hard to make sure you dont' flinch at the same time due > to the biting! This is generally a very good idea for how to deal with biting. It usually works by blocking the baby's nose and forcing her to release her bite in order to breathe. Since the baby doesn't like the procedure too well, it also tends to deter future biting.
In the case of biting due to a cold, the biting happens when the baby's nose is too plugged up for breathing while nursing. She tries to mouth breathe while nursing, constantly latching halfway on and off and accidentally biting. Since her nose is already too plugged up for breathing, pulling her in to block the nose is less likely to help and more likely to be frightening.
--Betsy
Julie - 12 Nov 2007 04:38 GMT Thanks everyone for the suggestions. I'll have to try to remember that for the biting. She really doesn't bite while nursing that often (Though she does bite at other times!), but that makes sense that she was biting because she couldn't breathe good. She's doing a little better with her breathing now, though. She's even nursing awake some, but at other times she still rejects it. She's hardly sleeping, and I'm exhausted! Her diaper count was up a little better today, though. I nursed her every time she would let me today. I had pumped while she was on strike, but not maybe enough, so my milk supply might be down some. I'm hoping that's back up soon. This has been very stressful for both of us... I really appreciate all of your suggestions. When I found this group, I was very discouraged. I thought breastfeeding was over, but was VERY stressed by it, because she wont take a bottle hardly. Now, though, she's even breastfeeding again. I'm so thankful for online searches! Thank you soooo much everyone!
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>> Hi Julie, glad she seems to be doing better now. Just an idea on the >> Ouch [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > --Betsy
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