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HELP! Women in my pocket!!

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InCharge - 28 Jun 2004 16:35 GMT
Finally, I've found a forum of men who support my opinions about women
taking responsibility for chosing to have kids. I've just been summonsed
by Dept of Human Resource Management to appear in court for child support.
I'll tell you a little about my story. I was in a marriage 10 years ago. I
struggled with drinking and during that time, had an extramarital affair.
As a result, my wife left me. This woman got pregnant (twins) and is now
trying to get child support from me. I have 4 kids by my ex-wife. Whenever
I am employed, I send my ex wife what I can to help. I disagree with child
support for the mistress (Ms. Stress) because she knew I was married and
CHOSE to have those kids so SHE should take responsibility for them. She
also knows I had 4 kids before her that I have to take care of. What I
need to know is will my 4 kids be considered when the order for Ms. Stress
is done and will I be requied to pay for her daughter she had by her dead
husband? If my ex wife decides to sue, will my first order be considered?
Also, will I be able to use the drinking problem as a way out of paying
for Ms. Stess' kids? Alcoholism can be considered a disability, you know.

I would appreciate a useful answer or advice. Thanks.

Chris
teachrmama - 28 Jun 2004 17:08 GMT
> Finally, I've found a forum of men who support my opinions about women
> taking responsibility for chosing to have kids. I've just been summonsed
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>
> I would appreciate a useful answer or advice. Thanks.

You don't have a CS order for your ex's kids?  The first CS order usually
gets the biggest piece of the CS pie.  Maybe you and your ex should go down
and get a CS order in place before the inevitable happens with the
mistress's kids.  You did have a paternity test, right?
InCharge - 28 Jun 2004 18:16 GMT
I didn't have a paternity test for the last 2 but I am 100% sure they are
mine because of a birth mark that nearly EVERYONE in my blood family has,
a small patch of gray hair. They are 5 yrs old and one has the patch of
gray hair just like my first 4 kids. My ex and I only have a separation
agreement that says child support is reserved. My ex wife is the type to
try to do this without my help and doesn't even want an order as long as I
am helping her but Ms. Stress is the opposite. She doesn't make as much
money as my ex and feels entitled to my help because she can't get out
there and look for a better job or get some education.
Bob - 28 Jun 2004 18:25 GMT
> Finally, I've found a forum of men who support my opinions about women
> taking responsibility for chosing to have kids. I've just been summonsed
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>
> Chris

Here is some quality advice for a man in your situation. Don't go cheap.

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When did we divide into sides?

"As president, I will put American government and our legal system back
on the side of women."  John Kerry, misandrist Democratic candidate for
President. http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/women/

[Bob does not advocate any illegal, seditious, or immoral acts.  All
posts are for discussion, rhetorical, or humorous purposes only.]

Chris - 29 Jun 2004 06:25 GMT
> > Finally, I've found a forum of men who support my opinions about women
> > taking responsibility for chosing to have kids. I've just been summonsed
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>
> http://www.bushmaster.com/shopping/weapons/lr-24v.asp

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Simpledog - 30 Jun 2004 17:41 GMT
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> > Finally, I've found a forum of men who support my opinions about women
> > taking responsibility for chosing to have kids. I've just been summonsed
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>
> http://www.bushmaster.com/shopping/weapons/lr-24v.asp
Patrick Lee - 05 Jul 2004 01:27 GMT
My advice, go underground----you are
screwed----no way out for men!!!!
Todd Schaffer - 02 Jul 2004 19:39 GMT
be carefull some states can take your drivers licens away, even take
your propety-your car and home . do not belive in hear say. Do research
in your state law.Best of luck friend
Joe_College - 28 Jun 2004 20:30 GMT
Here's some useful advise for the future...cover it up or pull it out.
Abortion is not birth control. You said she chose to have the kids but you
chose to get her pregnant by having raw sex. Anyone who knows how babies
are made knows how NOT to make them.

As far as answering your specific questions, I need to know in what state
you live.
InCharge - 29 Jun 2004 14:57 GMT
I don't need your lecture, man. I already heard this from my father when
all this happened. I'll tell you like I told him, If she can't support
these kids, she needs to put them up for adoption or she should have
aborted the pregancy. I can't take care of 6 kids, I'm only 1 person.
Besides, she's on welfare anyway. She'll have to stay there until she can
get a better job...bottom line. I barely have enough money for myself
without this girl constantly looking for a handout. Those kids will be
alright.

I'm looking for advise to take to court with me. I'm in Alabama.
Don - 01 Jul 2004 13:05 GMT
> I'm looking for advise to take to court with me. I'm in Alabama.

As was mentioned earlier, if you have a court order for child support
for your first four children, the court will have to take that into
account in determing the amount you owe for the next two.

If you don't have a court order, the court does love to close it's
eyes to reality and is likely to ignore the obligation you have to the
first four. Which then means that the last two will get a
disproportionate amount and you won't have much if any for the first
four. Furter if the mother of the last two is on welfare, you can bet
welfare will be down your throat. Also, once a number gets set it is
extra difficult to get it lowered.

As far as arguing alcoholism or her decision not to abort, you can
argue whatever you want, but the court will only be bored and annoyed.

I'm not a lawyer (thank god) just rather experienced as a result of 10
years of litigation.

    Don
short - 01 Jul 2004 18:20 GMT
> > I'm looking for advise to take to court with me. I'm in Alabama.
>
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> As far as arguing alcoholism or her decision not to abort, you can
> argue whatever you want, but the court will only be bored and annoyed.

Heh, and the last thing you want to do at the first hearing is annoy the
judge.  I've found that once you do, you're screwed.

When my ex and I went to court to finalize the divorce, we had agreed upon
an amount for child support, but the judge (after some testimony from her
and some others) looked at me and said "Oh no, you're paying more than that.
I'll make this a lesson you won't forget" or some crud like that.  So, don't
give the judge the death stare as he's talking to you, no matter what :o)

short - and I only interrupted once!!!
Chris - 02 Jul 2004 15:39 GMT
> > "InCharge" <flavorcharge@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:<52e996154224f44d59e715ece6d18a5b@localhost.talkaboutparenting.com>...

> > > I'm looking for advise to take to court with me. I'm in Alabama.
> >
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> Heh, and the last thing you want to do at the first hearing is annoy the
> judge.  I've found that once you do, you're screwed.

Correction: You're MORE screwed. You were already screwed when you were born
without a vagina.

> When my ex and I went to court to finalize the divorce, we had agreed upon
> an amount for child support, but the judge (after some testimony from her
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>
> short - and I only interrupted once!!!
 
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