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Family Forum / Parenting / Parenting / July 2004Martha Stewart
This probably is not the right forum to discuss this but heck it my Saturday rant. Doesn't it make you sick that the media (who obviously luvs her and has gone out of their way to make sure that the public message was sympathetic to the short 5 month sentence. It really pisses me off that 1.) She broke the law and gained an advantage that the everyday investor did not have and even though caught it was based her defense on legalese. 2.) Just because she was a woman and of celebrity status the media (even the sweet looking but usually hard on male criminals Nancy Grace, was fawning over her and the verdict and how because of Martha’s status weaved a precocious web non committal verbiage toward here verdict. Ain’t it strange that when the media finds a women they like who is accused of a criminal act or fits a cause they promote, they are able to investigate and give their one sided report but when the issue concerns men or men who have been unjustly victimized by the justice system they fall surprisingly silent. She shoug have gotten more time and er comment comparing herelf to Nelson Mandela show you the depth of just how far the unrepented greed which is so prevelant in this country has gone. DLove DLove > This probably is not the right forum to discuss this but heck it my > Saturday rant. Doesn't it make you sick that the media (who obviously luvs [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > DLove I understand where you coming from but I do not believe it applies for this case. Here is my take. If a co-worker told you that a company you have stock in is going to take a dive you would be on the phone just like most other people to dump it. Therefore I do not believe she should be doing any time at all other than receiving community service or probation. Insider trading is likely all too common and after all the scandals they need to look like they are cracking down on it with a high profile example. I think this is one of those rare cases that if she was a man or a liberal like Whoopi Goldberg no one would have touched her. Everything is political these days, therefore what a perfect example to satisfy the Democrats and liberal left by providing a woman who portrays herself as a home maker on TV. Not only does the image of a homemaker piss these people off but she is rich woman at that. What better to satisfy their ignorant hoards of voters that hate the rich and believe the liberal lie that women should be ashamed instead of proud to being a home maker. >> This probably is not the right forum to discuss this but heck it my >> Saturday rant. Doesn't it make you sick that the media (who obviously luvs [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] >that hate the rich and believe the liberal lie that women should be ashamed >instead of proud to being a home maker. ======= Ummm....Martha is a Democrat. ======= > >> This probably is not the right forum to discuss this but heck it my > >> Saturday rant. Doesn't it make you sick that the media (who obviously luvs [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > Ummm....Martha is a Democrat. > ======= That is irrelavent. >> >> This probably is not the right forum to discuss this but heck it my >> >> Saturday rant. Doesn't it make you sick that the media (who obviously [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > >That is irrelavent. ===== Hardly. She has given them a ton of money and she is being prosecuted by the conservative establishment. Your conspiracy theory is way off base. ===== ===== > >> >"DLove" <dlove@emailprotected.com> wrote in message > >> [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] > conservative establishment. Your conspiracy theory is way off base. > ===== Still irrelavant. The people that are clamoring for her head are typically Democrats and the liberal left. The 'conservative establishment' is being portrayed as being sympathetic to corrupt and wealthy. What a perfect way to satisfy these folks by crucifying someone like Stewart who of course is not one of their own. ............................................. Everything is >> >political >> >> >these days, therefore what a perfect example to satisfy the Democrats [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >to satisfy these folks by crucifying someone like Stewart who of course is >not one of their own. ==== Whatever--You're way off base but I guess you are determined to stay there. What I'm really concerned about is that some men feel Republicans are their allies and that Democrats are wholly responsible for the mess in family court. I think this is a dangerous position for dads to take. The problem for dads is systemic and neither party has shown itself to be supportive. Both parties need to be shaken up. Both need to learn that dads will *only* support the party that deserves their support. Thus far, neither does. And yes--I will vote based on this single issue--if a candidate were bold enough to make it an issue. So far, they are all pathetically spineless and/or totally clueless. ==== ==== > ............................................. > Everything is [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > I'm really concerned about is that some men feel Republicans are their allies > and that Democrats are wholly responsible for the mess in family court. Republicans are NOT the allies of men, but at least Republicans are not campaigning hard against men as the Dems are doing. "As president, I will put American government and our legal system back on the side of women." John Kerry, misandrist Democratic candidate for President. http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/women/ Democrats are the enemies of men. Republicans are not the friends of men. Both parties are responsible for the horrible legal mess for men and children in the US. Similar situations exist in other countries. > I think > this is a dangerous position for dads to take. The problem for dads is systemic [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > this single issue--if a candidate were bold enough to make it an issue. So far, > they are all pathetically spineless and/or totally clueless. Yep, neither party supports men. The Reps are marginally better because they don't actively oppose men. Bob  SignatureWhen did we divide into sides? "As president, I will put American government and our legal system back on the side of women." John Kerry, misandrist Democratic candidate for President. http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/women/ >> ............................................. >> Everything is [quoted text clipped - 71 lines] >Yep, neither party supports men. The Reps are marginally better because >they don't actively oppose men. ==== Hehe--It's then a matter of "legislate how you please but just don't mention it in public" like the other party does. LOL! That's funny, guys. Men must learn to support *the candidate* that supports dads. Period. To sing praises of either party is blasphemy. ==== ==== >Bob > >> ............................................. > >> Everything is [quoted text clipped - 77 lines] > party is blasphemy. > ==== I do not see anyone singing the praises of either party. Likely just more vocal against the Democrats since they are so much more virulent in their rhetoric against fathers. I have yet to decide who I am going to vote for however know for certain it will not be the two most anti-father candidates, Kerry and Edwards. I am still holding out hope someone will make fathers gaining equal rights an issue between now and November. > > >> ............................................. > > >> Everything is [quoted text clipped - 102 lines] > however know for certain it will not be the two most anti-father candidates, > Kerry and Edwards. I have sent multiple emails to the Kerry campaign asking for his position on men's rights and if he supports equal rights between the sexes or just special rights for woman on their issues. When I used to women's issues information link to ask my questions about men's rights, all I got back was more boiler plate crap about his position on women's rights. Kerry has no intention of getting anywhere near men's rights. He's trolling for the women's vote pandering to their every dream. > ............................................. > Everything is [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > ==== > Whatever--You're way off base but I guess you are determined to stay there. What > I'm really concerned about is that some men feel Republicans are their allies > and that Democrats are wholly responsible for the mess in family court. I think [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > they are all pathetically spineless and/or totally clueless. > ==== This thread and the other you seem to take it as if I support the Republicans wholeheartly. The Republicans are also responsible in many ways and have been instrumental in founding of child support laws. However they are not actively campaigning against fathers rights. It is the Democrats along with the Kerry-Edwards that are actively campaigning against equal rights for fathers this election. Although third parties are a long shot I still hold out hope one will come out for keeping the government out of family life or for equal rights for fathers. Even if they get few percentage points of a vote it will send up red flags to the major parties that we can influence future elections which is all that is needed. > > ............................................. > > Everything is [quoted text clipped - 69 lines] > red flags to the major parties that we can influence future elections which > is all that is needed. check out www.lp.org The Libertarian Party is against governmental control over many things, family life and morality included. I'm not sure where they are on "equal rights for fathers" specifically, but holding true with their message, they should be all about that. Badnarik in 2004! -- Krista Mother of three Student of Psychology and Latin > ............................................. > Everything is [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > ==== > ==== Vote Libertarian! www.lp.org They are in favor of minimal government and absolutely minimal government control, no morality laws, etc... -- Krista Mother of three Student of Psychology and Latin > This probably is not the right forum to discuss this but heck it my > Saturday rant. Doesn't it make you sick that the media (who obviously luvs [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > DLove > DLove Just because she's rich doesn't excuse the heavy hammer of the DOJ out to get her. The scandal has cost the "regular investor" a lot more than the alleged crime -- which turned out only to be lying about the crime to the investigators. They CREATED the crime by their persecution. Bob SignatureWhen did we divide into sides? "As president, I will put American government and our legal system back on the side of women." 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