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Tiffany - 29 Jul 2004 16:52 GMT http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/96391_malepill20.shtml
this article appeared in Nov. 2002
Male birth-control pill studied
By KATHY GEORGE SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER REPORTER
"Don't worry, honey, I'm on the pill."
Some day soon, that could be a man speaking.
Doctors at the University of Washington are renewing long-stymied efforts to develop a birth-control pill for men, who haven't had a new contraceptive product since the condom's invention centuries ago.
The UW researchers plan to recruit about 50 men to test a tablet that, like the female pill that spawned the sexual revolution of the 1960s,
uses hormones to trick the body.
But instead of suppressing a woman's egg once a month, this new pill would block millions of sperm produced by a man each day.
"It actually is somewhat harder, biologically, to turn off the production of all sperm," said Dr. William Bremner, director of the UW's Male Contraception Research Center, just created with a $9.5 million, five-year federal grant.
Bremner has been working on male contraceptives for 25 years. Research in the field has moved slowly, he said, because society as a whole -- and the American pharmaceutical industry -- still believe that preventing pregnancy "is really a female issue."
"I just do not see pharmaceutical companies in general stepping up to fund this kind of research," Bremner said. "The American companies -- it's hard to get them to talk to you."
It boils down to this: If a safe and effective pill is marketed, will men buy it?
Zach Beck, 19, thinks so. He's been taking a birth-control pill every day -- and receiving weekly hormone injections -- as part of a preliminary, month-long UW study of hormone levels that will help guide future studies.
"I really don't mind it. It's really safe," said Beck, a UW sophomore who is being paid $300 for his participation.
"Just using condoms, they break," he said. "It's a big hassle, trying to get 24-hour emergency contraception . . . I'd so much rather take a pill every day, just for that extra assurance."
Bremner and his colleagues agree men want alternatives.
"They just don't have a lot of options," said Dr. John Amory, one of the principal investigators at the new center.
As it is, men account for just 30 percent of contraceptive use in the United States. Half of that is condoms, the other half vasectomies. Both have drawbacks.
For one thing, condoms aren't cheap. And many men dislike them because they decrease sensation and can spoil the mood, Amory and Bremner said.
They also fail frequently. A couple relying exclusively on condoms for a year has a 10 percent to 15 percent chance of pregnancy, Amory said.
Vasectomies, on the other hand, guarantee infertility, but some men are squeamish about the surgery.
A male birth-control pill would allow men better control over their own fertility, Amory said. It also would take some of the birth-control burden off of women.
That's where the social implications loom large.
"It is a little bit of a tricky concept that a male would take a pill to prevent a health risk (pregnancy) in a female," Bremner said.
Amory added, "The question I get asked at cocktail parties is: 'Would women trust men to use it?' "
Beck, the student, said he wouldn't expect that.
The pill "would be for my assurance, not for my partner's."
Chris Charbonneau, president of Planned Parenthood of Western Washington, welcomes a male pill, saying men would benefit from having more say over pregnancy risks.
But birth control, if not seen as a woman's domain, still may be viewed as fundamentally wrong in some quarters.
Sharon Park, director of the Washington State Catholic Conference, said, "The church's position hasn't changed. We oppose the use of artificial contraceptives. It wouldn't matter if it was male or female.
"We believe that sexual intercourse should only take place in marriage," which should be open to procreation, she said.
Partly because of religious and social concerns, male contraceptive research has been neglected, Bremner said.
Only two companies, both in Europe, have been funding the research. Without the $9.5 million grant from the National Institutes of Health, the UW's male contraceptive work would have stopped, he said. The grant decision was scientific, not political, he added. After Congress directed the institutes to create contraceptive centers, Bremner applied for a grant and scientists approved it, he said.
One company, Holland-based Organon, paid for some of Bremner's previous work and claims it can bring a hormone-based injection for men to the market within three to four years, Bremner said.
Long-term safety data is lacking for the male birth-control shots. But short-term studies show they prevent pregnancy about 97 percent of the time, making them about as effective as the female pill, the UW doctor said.
The UW researchers hope to develop a male pill that's as effective as the shots, Amory said, and are trying to determine why the pill reduces but does not stop sperm production in some men.
Here's how the pill should work.
"The testicle makes two things -- testosterone and sperm," Amory explained. The pill uses external testosterone to shut down the brain's signals to the testicle, which stops making sperm and internal testosterone. "It leaves the guys with a healthy amount of testosterone so that they feel fine," the doctor added.
Adding progestin has improved the male pill's effectiveness to about 95 percent, still a little short of the injection's prevention rate, Amory said.
The UW's newly funded work goes beyond the pill. Researchers at the UW and Washington State University are studying what controls sperm production, hoping to identify an agent in the testis that -- unlike testosterone -- has no other function.
Normally, testosterone travels through the man's body, stimulating muscle mass, beard growth, sexual interest and prostate growth as well as sperm production. Birth control would have fewer side effects if it used an agent more specific to sperm production, Bremner explained.
The shorter-term goal, however, is a pill that stops sperm production but keeps behavior, sexual function and metabolism normal and reduces the risk of prostate disease.
With adequate research support, it can be done, Bremner said. And it should be done.
"The burden of reversible contraception falls heavily on the female," he said. "It's hard to justify that there haven't been any new male methods."
Charbonneau agrees.
"Women have always said, 'When is it going to be the man's turn?' "
P-I reporter Kathy George can be reached at kathygeorge@seattlepi.com
Bob - 29 Jul 2004 17:53 GMT Yes, in response to a steadily growing number of men like Bob loudly demanding equal research and products for men, the government is finally granting a small fraction of their BC research budget for men's research. It's very little and very late, but it's a start.
Note that even the researchers are mouthing the century old sexist cowshit that it's harder to turn off sperm than turn off eggs -- before they have done the research necessary to make any of that into knowledge. AFTER they have done 30 years of well financed research they might have a basis for that claim, but prior to the research it shows that their research is as sexist as their heads. Even when they get a small budget it goes to bigoted a.sholes who's minds are already made up with historical lies.
Bob
> http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/96391_malepill20.shtml > [quoted text clipped - 156 lines] > > P-I reporter Kathy George can be reached at kathygeorge@seattlepi.com
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Tiffany - 29 Jul 2004 18:00 GMT > Yes, in response to a steadily growing number of men like Bob loudly > demanding equal research and products for men, the government is finally [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Bob Admit it, you just would never be happy. lol
Since you believe so strongly in this cause, tell us what you have done to benefit it? (Besides coming here to Usenet) Write letters? Stage protests? Help the other men make such a difference that you have made. lol
Oh yes.... I do believe this article makes parts of your past statements WRONG.
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Bob - 29 Jul 2004 18:27 GMT More than 40 years after The Pill hit the market for women, scientists still haven't produced a version for men.
"Scientists have known for 50 years that it should be possible to fiddle with a man's hormones and make him sterile for a while. But that hasn't produced a marketed product yet for lots of reasons, like sporadic research funding, cultural concerns and limited interest by drug companies, a recent report from the Institute of Medicine noted."
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/19/health/main612637.shtml
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> http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/96391_malepill20.shtml > [quoted text clipped - 156 lines] > > P-I reporter Kathy George can be reached at kathygeorge@seattlepi.com
 Signature When did we divide into sides?
"As president, I will put American government and our legal system back on the side of women." John Kerry, misandrist Democratic candidate for President. http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/women/
[Bob does not advocate any illegal, seditious, or immoral acts. All posts are for discussion, rhetorical, or humorous purposes only.]
Tiffany - 29 Jul 2004 18:50 GMT > More than 40 years after The Pill hit the market for women, scientists > still haven't produced a version for men. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/19/health/main612637.shtml That is an interesting article. Thanks for finding it. It does prove though that research has been going on, doesn't it. Until they actually market the stuff, men should wear condoms or get snipped if they don't want kids.
T
Bob - 29 Jul 2004 19:40 GMT >>More than 40 years after The Pill hit the market for women, scientists >>still haven't produced a version for men. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > T Translation: Fifty years of no funding, sexist cultural discrimination, and no interest by drug companies, but Tif-Tif says that men can still use the crud products invented in the 19th century, or be sterilized.
How very sexist of her.
Bob
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Tiffany - 29 Jul 2004 19:52 GMT > >>More than 40 years after The Pill hit the market for women, scientists > >>still haven't produced a version for men. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Bob Sexist or factual, Bob-bob? You seem to be having a hard time knowing what words mean. May I suggest a dictionary?
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AZ Astrea - 30 Jul 2004 06:27 GMT This is, of course, good news. But look at how far away it is from becoming a reality for the general population. There was an article from Australia, I think, last year that said the same things. They keep saying that they're getting closer and closer and saying it's only a couple years from being a reality but heck that article was from 2002. So where's the pill?
Of course the government and the religious nuts have no desire to see this come to fruition. There is no money to be made out of men using bc. That is what will certainly screw things up! And I wouldn't be at all surprised that shortly after the pill becomes available, and the birth rate plummets, that they'll find a way to outlaw it. It all comes down to money. It always has.
~AZ~
> http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/96391_malepill20.shtml > [quoted text clipped - 156 lines] > > P-I reporter Kathy George can be reached at kathygeorge@seattlepi.com Bob - 30 Jul 2004 15:24 GMT > This is, of course, good news. But look at how far away it is from becoming > a reality for the general population. There was an article from Australia, [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > ~AZ~ Right on babe. A male pill would take away women's power to control fertility and dominate men. The feminist lobby is very strongly opposed to anything that would help men get free from their domination.
Bob
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"As president, I will put American government and our legal system back on the side of women." John Kerry, misandrist Democratic candidate for President. http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/women/
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Bob Whiteside - 30 Jul 2004 18:11 GMT > This is, of course, good news. But look at how far away it is from becoming > a reality for the general population. There was an article from Australia, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > that they'll find a way to outlaw it. It all comes down to money. It > always has. There are some related societal issues that could be changed by wide-spread use of a male bc pill that alters men's hormones. Recent research in the late 90's showed testosterone is a calming hormone.
When men have excess testosterone their bodies they naturally convert the excess to estrogen and that is what makes men with high testosterone counts get edgy. On the other side, women are calmer after sex because their bodies absorb the high testosterone levels in male ejaculate to counter the high estrogen levels in their bodies.
A male bc pill that alters the testosterone balance could cause men and women to become more violent because they lack the benefits of testosterone to keep them calm.
The Dave© - 30 Jul 2004 18:18 GMT > Bob Whiteside wrote:
> > This is, of course, good news. But look at how far away it is from > becoming [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > and women to become more violent because they lack the benefits of > testosterone to keep them calm. So, IOW, men would become psychotic and irrational, too.
Yes, I'm just kidding. It was too easy to pass up. :-p
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Tiffany - 30 Jul 2004 18:41 GMT > > Bob Whiteside wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > Yes, I'm just kidding. It was too easy to pass up. :-p Yeah, I knew someone was going to go there. :)
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Tiffany - 30 Jul 2004 18:41 GMT > > This is, of course, good news. But look at how far away it is from > becoming [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > women to become more violent because they lack the benefits of testosterone > to keep them calm. Lovely, that is all we need is more violent men and women. If sex isn't going to calm and make you happy, why bother? lol
T
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