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why is it easier to kill the mother of our children then fight for our rights to be a father to our kids?

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ottawaont - 11 Feb 2006 02:16 GMT
Why is it that the only thing left for men to do to stop these woman
from causing long term mental abuse to men and their children, is to
just kill her????? Because apparently, the courts and the justice
department don't seem to care for the fathers rights to his children.
Even the legal aid, discriminates against fathers. I have done
everything I could think of, and yet, I was told by my lawyer that I
will never get to a trial, because I don't have 20,000.00 to start
with. Thats pathetic don't you think......So............ rob a bank,and
your going to jail, so thats out of the question, right....and you'll
get more time for robbing a bank then you will for killing the mother
too. So, I figure one way or another IF YOU WANT SOME SORT OF RESULTS,
EITHER WAY, JAIL IS GOING TO HAPPEN...So WHY NOT JUST KILL HER? Problem
solved, and you'll be able to watch your children grow. I am left with
this question because what is a man to do to protect his,"SO CALLED
RIGHTS TO FATHER HIS CHILDREN". Yes, the father would go to jail, but
the father would eventually get out, and the mother would not be there
to f.ck their lifes up any more. And the father could just help the
children understand that what he did to their mom, WAS the ONLY THING
TO DO FOR THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CHILDEN. If theres a better solution
to this growing problem, please.....I am all ears....I would like to
know how a father can actually be heard, and our rights can be
exersised.
Gini - 11 Feb 2006 02:23 GMT
> Why is it that the only thing left for men to do to stop these woman
> from causing long term mental abuse to men and their children, is to
> just kill her?????
==
I see you really thought that through.
==
Dusty - 11 Feb 2006 02:59 GMT
> > Why is it that the only thing left for men to do to stop these woman
> > from causing long term mental abuse to men and their children, is to
> > just kill her?????
> ==
> I see you really thought that through.
> ==

He does have a point.  When every other option has been removed and you're
left with nothing, what other avenue is there, other then suicide?

Of course, that does -not- mean that I agree with it.  Just that I
understand where he's coming from.
Gini - 11 Feb 2006 03:07 GMT
>> > Why is it that the only thing left for men to do to stop these woman
>> > from causing long term mental abuse to men and their children, is to
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> He does have a point.  When every other option has been removed and you're
> left with nothing, what other avenue is there, other then suicide?
===
He's talking homicide. There's a difference. And the other avenue don't kill
anyone.
===
Dusty - 11 Feb 2006 03:25 GMT
> >> > Why is it that the only thing left for men to do to stop these woman
> >> > from causing long term mental abuse to men and their children, is to
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> anyone.
> ===

Yeah, I know it's homicide.  But even if he (or anyone else for that matter)
were to do the deed, he'd -still- be out in 5-10 years (with good behavior,
maybe sooner).  And he'd still be able to be a part of his kid's lives, too.

The suicide option is just f*cked from the get-go.  It truly is a "no win"
situation.  Not that this is "supposed" to be about wining.  But lets be
honest here, that's exactly how judges, lawyers and their ilk see divorce -
who wins the most money from the walking ATM and how much their gonna get a
week for being the first one to file the paperwork to remove the other
parent from the family.

Like I said before, Gini, I don't agree with it, but I certainly do
understand it.
Gini - 11 Feb 2006 03:38 GMT
> "Gini" <gini@verizon.com> wrote in message
....................................................
>> ===
>> He's talking homicide. There's a difference. And the other avenue don't
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> Like I said before, Gini, I don't agree with it, but I certainly do
> understand it.
===
I don't.
===
teachrmama - 11 Feb 2006 03:52 GMT
>> >> > Why is it that the only thing left for men to do to stop these woman
>> >> > from causing long term mental abuse to men and their children, is to
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> maybe sooner).  And he'd still be able to be a part of his kid's lives,
> too.

This guy would probably get life for 1st degree murder.  He just posted his
premeditation on the internet!!
ottawaont - 14 Jan 2009 19:13 GMT
I wasn't talking about homicide. Its me trying to figure out what these
people who kill their loved ones were thinking. I was trying to put myself in
their prospective.

>>> > Why is it that the only thing left for men to do to stop these woman
>>> > from causing long term mental abuse to men and their children, is to
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>anyone.
>===
DB - 11 Feb 2006 03:32 GMT
"Dusty" <No_one@home.org> wrote in

> Of course, that does -not- mean that I agree with it.  Just that I
> understand where he's coming from.

We all completely understad his frustration with the present Kourt system!
ottawaont - 11 Jul 2008 20:36 GMT
>> Why is it that the only thing left for men to do to stop these woman
>> from causing long term mental abuse to men and their children, is to
>> just kill her?????
>==
>I see you really thought that through.
>==
Gini, I don't think you understood the blog I wrote. So I will explain
further.
My blog was not intended as a threat to do harm, it was meant for feedback
regarding men and the inability to defend oneself when faced with false
alligations of abuse. I have been accused of all sorts of false claims, yet,
no one, not even my lawyers I have gone through will defend me in court. They
all tell me I have to do what is asked by the cas, to see my children. I have
done nothing wrong, I have broken no laws, yet, I am told by my lawyers that
are funded by Legal Aid, that In order for me to get through this, I MUST go
through a process. That process is now 4 years long, and I have gotton no
where in my case, except I am not seeing my children at all, unless being
babysat at the cas office. If I want to have unsupervised access, I have to
agree to do drug screening, a parenting course, and I have to see a group for
men who abuse.
I am not abusive in any way, shape or form. I have never been. Yet, my ex,
has defeated me in court, making claims of mental and emotional abuse. I
wrote the blog above, because during the course of my troubles attempting to
get somewhere in court, I have seen in the news, where fathers have decided
to take the law into their own hands, and murder the entire family, including
himself. The blog was in my words the only explanation that could come to my
mind, of what the father was thinking before he murdered his family.
I have now gone through 4 different lawyers here in Ottawa, and all of them
did nothing to defend my case, instead, all were trying to help the cas to
help me go through a process that only degrades me in the process.
So, again, I do ask, what is a father to do, in the best interest of his
family, to fight in court, these false aligations to clear his name and have
his children back in his life.
ottawamom - 08 Aug 2009 18:03 GMT
>>> Why is it that the only thing left for men to do to stop these woman
>>> from causing long term mental abuse to men and their children, is to
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
>family, to fight in court, these false aligations to clear his name and have
>his children back in his life.

That's because no judge wants to get their hands bloody by accidentally
placing a child at risk back with their abusers. Since they trust in the CAS
system so much...they think that even having the children from innocent
families placed in caring enough homes, that it will supress the trauma that
a child feels when ripped away from their lives. What I have known about
people (not all because I do not want to generalize) who work in high
positions where it takes money to go through law school etc. These people
were generally raised in very loving homes and probably never experienced
anything even remotely close to being ripped away from their family for no
reason. Those people usually end up growing up living as adults with severe
emotional disorders and/or living on the streets thinking that their parents
either abandonned them or didn't love them or something screwed up that the
system or their alienating parent told them. So essentially  most judges have
no idea what it would feel like to be a child in this position.
What ever happened to your situation? Your lawyer makes it seem inevitable no
matter what evidence you provide. If your case has improved or if you just
want to talk with someone who is going through something similar to you, you
can reach me at my email address
 
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