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Got my notices from the state sanctioned thieves the other day

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John Meyer - 28 May 2007 14:57 GMT
So I get my notices of tax intercept the other day, and now I'm playing
the "wonder how long it's going to take them to actually credit my
account."  We have two notices, one from state and one from federal.

State of Colorado: 119.00  May 23   
Federal: 852  May 18.

I wrote to one of their bureaucrats, Reuben Luzano, who took the stand
that what they did was not stealing because I didn't complain at the
administrative hearing.  To put this in common terms, an administrative
hearing is where you argue about the length of rope they use to hang
you.  But just to humor Mr. Luzano, the next time they send one of those
notices I'll send a response arguing that at the level of income I'm at
makes an intercept of the entire refund basically a spike past the
poverty line.  I'll tell you how that works out (A clue: I have two
chances, jack and sh!t and jack left town).
So now we get to play the waiting game.  I can be a reasonable man, so
I'll give them a month, which I think is the amount of time that they
would give me if my payment was tardy.  But when you are talking about
nearly a fifth of my debt load and given the fact that child support
accrues interest, you can bet your hiney I will be talking to Mr. Lozano
again should payments not be posted.  Nothing mean or anything like
that: I'm just going to make him know in no uncertain terms that I
intend to use my right to petition the government for a redress of
grievances should this linger and should interest accrue.
Bob Whiteside - 28 May 2007 19:59 GMT
> So I get my notices of tax intercept the other day, and now I'm playing
> the "wonder how long it's going to take them to actually credit my
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> that what they did was not stealing because I didn't complain at the
> administrative hearing.

Federal tax intercepts can take 3-4 months to get the money to the state.
State tax intercepts are faster and usually take less than a month to apply
the money.

It sounds like the state is charging you interest.  If that is the case, you
should claim the date of withholding is the date of payment and cite the
language in 42 U.S.C. 654b.

On a side note - Change your exemptions claimed so you don't have any refund
at the end of the year.
John Meyer - 28 May 2007 23:42 GMT
>> So I get my notices of tax intercept the other day, and now I'm playing
>> the "wonder how long it's going to take them to actually credit my
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> should claim the date of withholding is the date of payment and cite the
> language in 42 U.S.C. 654b.

Thanks for the advice.
So I guess the state gets to look forward to me asking "where's my
credit" for the next three to four months.
John Meyer - 31 May 2007 15:26 GMT
>> So I get my notices of tax intercept the other day, and now I'm playing
>> the "wonder how long it's going to take them to actually credit my
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> On a side note - Change your exemptions claimed so you don't have any refund
> at the end of the year.

Can you get me the specific language to cite?
Bob Whiteside - 31 May 2007 19:47 GMT
> >> So I get my notices of tax intercept the other day, and now I'm playing
> >> the "wonder how long it's going to take them to actually credit my
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> >
> Can you get me the specific language to cite?

(c) Timing of disbursements

                          (1) In general

       Except as provided in paragraph (2), the State disbursement unit
   shall distribute all amounts payable under section 657(a) of this
   title within 2 business days after receipt from the employer or
   other source of periodic income, if sufficient information
   identifying the payee is provided. The date of collection for
   amounts collected and distributed under this part is the date of
   receipt by the State disbursement unit, except that if current
   support is withheld by an employer in the month when due and is
   received by the State disbursement unit in a month other than the
   month when due, the date of withholding may be deemed to be the date
   of collection.
John Meyer - 31 May 2007 20:15 GMT
>>>> So I get my notices of tax intercept the other day, and now I'm playing
>>>> the "wonder how long it's going to take them to actually credit my
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>     month when due, the date of withholding may be deemed to be the date
>     of collection.

That's what I thought it was.  Now I have to find out exactly when this
interest is charged (the colorado cs web site lists payments but not
debits).
Relayer - 31 May 2007 23:33 GMT
> >>>> So I get my notices of tax intercept the other day, and now I'm playing
> >>>> the "wonder how long it's going to take them to actually credit my
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>
> - Show quoted text -

Bob is right. Change youre exemptions
 
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