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Child Support in Ontario - When the Child Moves

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sgallagher@rogers.com - 21 Jun 2008 23:36 GMT
My cousin's husband is a non-custodial parent who pays child support
to his ex wife for his two daughters.

The daughters are going to start living with their father full time
starting in September.  This is at their request
and their mother (the custodial parent) is in full agreement as she
says she can't handle them anymore.

As of now, they are not going to court or planning to execute any
legal documents to change the custody
from the father to the mother, or to acknowledge that the children
will be living full time with the father.

The ex wife has talked about selling her home and getting a smaller
one for herself, and she won't be
maintaining any regular place for the children to live.

Questions:

From a legal standpoint, can the father stop paying child support to
his ex-since the children will not be
living with her anymore.  He thinks that he can simply stop paying
since the children will be living full time
with him.  His wife (my cousin) is afraid that at some later date, the
ex can come back and say that
he owes child support, even though the girls were not living with
her.

Additionally, there's the issue over whether the girl's mother should
start paying child support to the
father, since she doesn't want them living with her anymore.

Lastly, the mother is remarried to a man who lives in South America,
and they suspect that she may
be wanting to move there to be with him.

Is it OK to leave this as a handshake deal, or should they be going
for something more formal?
Gini - 22 Jun 2008 01:11 GMT
> My cousin's husband is a non-custodial parent who pays child support
> to his ex wife for his two daughters.
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> Is it OK to leave this as a handshake deal, or should they be going
> for something more formal?
===
Your cousin may have reason to be concerned. In the US, as long as there is
a CS order in place, it is owed and is separate from custody arrangements.
In other words, he owes and is liable for the support until the order is
changed by a judge (not the parents). She may never come back to court for
the money but she could, and that alone may inspire her when she finds
herself in a financial pinch.
Bob W - 22 Jun 2008 01:28 GMT
>> My cousin's husband is a non-custodial parent who pays child support
>> to his ex wife for his two daughters.
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> to court for the money but she could, and that alone may inspire her when
> she finds herself in a financial pinch.

This is good advice.  The OP needs a change of custody order and a
modification of CS order stopping CS accruals on the old order and
establishing the new amount to be paid by the mother.  It depends on
Canadian law, but in the U.S. those items can be done simultaneously and if
done by stipulation, be accomplished quickly.

From a strategy standpoint press the issue for these changes BEFORE taking
on custody of the children.  That will give your husband leverage to get the
stipulated changes in place quickly.
Bob W - 22 Jun 2008 01:33 GMT
>>> My cousin's husband is a non-custodial parent who pays child support
>>> to his ex wife for his two daughters.
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> on custody of the children.  That will give your husband leverage to get
> the stipulated changes in place quickly.

I meant father not husband, but the advice for your cousin's husband is the
same.
sgallagher@rogers.com - 22 Jun 2008 11:59 GMT
> >> <sgallag...@rogers.com> wrote in message
> >>news:cced07b5-9307-4b31-a0db-682bdf0beb0c@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
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> I meant father not husband, but the advice for your cousin's husband is the
> same.

Thanks.  I will encourage my cousin and her husband to at least speak
with a lawyer.
paleryder - 23 Jun 2008 14:43 GMT
<sgallagher@rogers.com> wrote...

> Is it OK to leave this as a handshake deal, or should they be going
> for something more formal?

A verbal agreement isn't worth the paper it's printed on.

Seriously, formalizing things keeps everyone honest.
DB - 23 Jun 2008 15:24 GMT
> <sgallagher@rogers.com> wrote...
>
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>
> Seriously, formalizing things keeps everyone honest.

Yea, in her mind she thinks she's doing him a favour by letting the kids
stay with him and he doesn't have to pay her any C$ anymore. She has done
him such a big favour that she also figures she doesn't have to pay C$! LOL
amy - 24 Jun 2008 19:20 GMT
> > <sgallag...@rogers.com> wrote...
>
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> stay with him and he doesn't have to pay her any C$ anymore. She has done
> him such a big favour that she also figures she doesn't have to pay C$! LOL

Well whether or not the children are living with the children the
mother the father is required to pay CS. Finalize this or you risk
getting in trouble with the law.
 
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