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Fido - 30 Jan 2005 01:25 GMT
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Fido - 30 Jan 2005 01:36 GMT
The Free Republic is running a live thread collecting images of the Iraq
vote as polling places open across the world. You can find that thread and
those images here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1331514/posts?q=1&&page=1

Warning, you might want to have a kleenex handy before you start reviewing
the pictures...  
Fido - 30 Jan 2005 02:07 GMT
These are just some more pictures from the Freep thread:

http://tinyurl.com/6hvxf

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Donna - 30 Jan 2005 05:27 GMT
Counterpoint:

http://www.zonaeuropa.com/01467.htm
Fido - 30 Jan 2005 05:44 GMT
> Counterpoint:
>
> http://www.zonaeuropa.com/01467.htm



"The Children of Iraq":

http://wwwi.reuters.com/images/mdf838871.jpg

Watching the joyful Iraqis voting, I am overwhelmed with emotion as I
stand as a witness to the birth of a democracy.

It is an awesome thing, and more powerful than any one person could ever
be.

There is so much to this story, so much pain, blood and death that lead to
this moment. It is a chance to marvel at humanity and to be joyful with
our bretheren.
Donna - 30 Jan 2005 14:04 GMT
The United States has created a wasteland in Iraq.

Destruction and death and hopelessness are also a big part of our
intervention in this part of the world.

American contractors will come in in fix what they can for huge sums of
money.

While I appreciate the joy that  you feel at the idea of casting a
vote, I am more deeply affected by the consequences of  this war and
the overall devastation of the land.

donna
Fido - 30 Jan 2005 14:34 GMT
How sad for people who can only see bad things in what is a great day for
all people. Those complaints sound so hollow.

The Iraqis have turned out in surprising number to vote, the minority
party who held power at the barrel of a gun for so long is doing
everything they can to stop this from happening, but it is happening
anyway. Millions who suffered under Saddam's regime are finally getting a
say in their government. They risked their lives today to vote with tears
in their eyes for loved ones who lost their lives to bring them to this
moment.

This is a time for great joy. I cry for those who gave their lives to
bring this about, and I feel such pride and hope.

http://tinyurl.com/49nwy

> The United States has created a wasteland in Iraq.
>
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>
> donna
Rambler - 30 Jan 2005 16:27 GMT
> How sad for people who can only see bad things in what is a great day for
> all people. Those complaints sound so hollow.
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>>
>>donna

You guys are an item, right?

Rambler
mL - 30 Jan 2005 17:22 GMT
>You guys are an item, right?
>
>Rambler

Even "items" often disagree. :-)
Fido - 30 Jan 2005 17:25 GMT
>> How sad for people who can only see bad things in what is a great day
>> for all people. Those complaints sound so hollow.
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>
> Rambler

Oh, yes.

Donna and I are "best friends," too.


Donna - 30 Jan 2005 18:06 GMT
One of the reasons this country is committed to establishing democracy
in far flung places around the world is so that we have the right to
disagree openly with our government, our leaders, our neighbors and
even our friends.

donna
LoriMc - 30 Jan 2005 18:55 GMT
> One of the reasons this country is committed to establishing democracy
> in far flung places around the world is so that we have the right to
> disagree openly with our government, our leaders, our neighbors and
> even our friends.

LOL.  Not 30 minutes ago I was in a discussion, (politics) with a very
special friend of mine, and one we have had before ... Let's not go there,
was the last reply I gave to that discussion.  :) People I respect and care
for often don't have the same identical ideas I do on certain subjects,  I
find that refreshing.

Lori Mc
*Calinda* - 30 Jan 2005 21:54 GMT
>> One of the reasons this country is committed to establishing
>> democracy in far flung places around the world is so that we have the
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> respect and care for often don't have the same identical ideas I do on
> certain subjects,  I find that refreshing.

SO and I sometimes go a few rounds, on a few issues as well.  As long as
we both respect the right of the other to have those opinions, it's good.  
It's when the respect is gone that it becomes a problem.
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Calinda dot Letter S at Gmail dot com

Rambler - 31 Jan 2005 02:22 GMT
> One of the reasons this country is committed to establishing democracy
> in far flung places around the world is so that we have the right to
> disagree openly with our government, our leaders, our neighbors and
> even our friends.

Just checking the scorecard, that's all.

Rambler
Casey - 31 Jan 2005 02:25 GMT
Rambler said
> > One of the reasons this country is committed to establishing democracy
> > in far flung places around the world is so that we have the right to
> > disagree openly with our government, our leaders, our neighbors and
> > even our friends.
>
> Just checking the scorecard, that's all.

The lovey-dovey talk in this thread had me confused as well.

Casey
-Lone_Wolf- - 30 Jan 2005 20:16 GMT
> How sad for people who can only see bad things in what is a great day
> for all people. Those complaints sound so hollow.
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> This is a time for great joy. I cry for those who gave their lives to
> bring this about, and I feel such pride and hope.

To bad the route they were forced to take had a very high price..., in
excess of 100,000 Iraqi's, 70+ British, 1200+ Americans.

That's a hell of a price to pay (and still pay)! Iraq was not a threat to
the US other than instability factor in oil prices.

(Ok, enough...)

John
Fido - 30 Jan 2005 20:45 GMT
>> How sad for people who can only see bad things in what is a great day
>> for all people. Those complaints sound so hollow.
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>
> John

http://tinyurl.com/45pkf
Roger (B) - 30 Jan 2005 22:04 GMT
"-Lone_Wolf-" <-lone_wolf-@CLOTHESexcite.com> wrote...
| To bad the route they were forced to take had a very high price...,
| in excess of 100,000 Iraqi's, 70+ British, 1200+ Americans.
| That's a hell of a price to pay (and still pay)! Iraq was not a threat
| to the US other than instability factor in oil prices.

    Notably, the rationale for this war shifted considerably.  It was
sold to us on basis that Saddam was hiding WMD (UN weapons
inspectors were so inept! - remember?)  On the heels of 9/11 +
Afghanistan, it was the next logical step in the /War on Terror/. But
when that didn't pan out, the mission shifted to nation building...
the last chapter on that has yet to be written.

    Many parents of dead soldiers understandably want to believe
that their child died for some noble cause and so support this war
without question but do question the patriotism of those who want
to end it.  There are many others, like one prominent family in my
town, who having lost a child in Iraq, point their finger at GWB
and ask, "Our child died in a foreign land to satisfy your attempt
to project American power and American-ize the Middle-East.
How many more will it take?"
Fido - 30 Jan 2005 22:33 GMT
"Roger \(B\)" <rcblinn-sss-@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:vPcLd.7996$gS5.959@bignews3.bellsouth.net:

> "-Lone_Wolf-" <-lone_wolf-@CLOTHESexcite.com> wrote...
>| To bad the route they were forced to take had a very high price..., in
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> to project American power and American-ize the Middle-East.
> How many more will it take?"

http://tinyurl.com/4hau8
Roger (B) - 30 Jan 2005 22:56 GMT
"Fido" <tomchandNS@gwi.net> wrote...
| http://tinyurl.com/4hau8

You ba see the faces, names and backgrounds of the soldiers
killed in Iraq since hostilities began on this CNN website:
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2003/iraq/forces/casualties/
You can sort the 1,588 listed either alphabetically or by date.
Roger (B) - 30 Jan 2005 22:58 GMT
Correction:
"Roger (B)" <rcblinn-sss-@bellsouth.net> wrote...
| You [can] see the faces, names and backgrounds of the soldiers
| killed in Iraq since hostilities began on this CNN website:
| http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2003/iraq/forces/casualties/
| You can sort the 1,588 listed either alphabetically or by date.

I wonder if you'll look.  [R]
Fido - 30 Jan 2005 23:40 GMT
"Roger \(B\)" <rcblinn-sss-@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:4AdLd.4052$qJ3.829@bignews1.bellsouth.net:

> Correction:
> "Roger (B)" <rcblinn-sss-@bellsouth.net> wrote...
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>
> I wonder if you'll look.  [R]

Iraqi's queue at a school polling station in the At Maeel area of Basra,
southern Iraq (news - web sites), January 30, 2005, as the country holds
its first elections. Some came on crutches, others walked for miles then
struggled to read the ballot, but across most of Iraq millions turned out
to vote Sunday, defying insurgent threats of a bloodbath. Suicide bombs
and mortars killed at least 33 people, but Iraqis still came out in force
for the first multi-party poll in 50 years:

http://tinyurl.com/3ou57

Iraqi man carries crippled old man to vote:

http://tinyurl.com/6652z

An Iraqi soldier crawls towards a polling station in an act of respect
during his country's national elections in eastern Baghdad January 30,
2005.:

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20050130/i/r272223278.jpg

Seventy-year-old Iraqi exile Mehsin Imgoter holds his voting ballot up and
begins to weep before putting it in the voting box in the Detroit suburb
of Southgate, Michigan. Imgoter's son was killed in the 1990 uprising
against Saddam Hussain:

http://tinyurl.com/59tga

.
kato - 30 Jan 2005 23:55 GMT
> Correction:
> "Roger (B)" <rcblinn-sss-@bellsouth.net> wrote...
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>
> I wonder if you'll look.  [R]

No dinnertime images of American youths returning home in flag draped
coffins. If there were, maybe the good people of the U.S. would put a stop
to this war. The military learned their lesson well from Viet Nam, or did
they?
Fido - 31 Jan 2005 00:21 GMT
>> Correction:
>> "Roger (B)" <rcblinn-sss-@bellsouth.net> wrote...
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> stop to this war. The military learned their lesson well from Viet Nam,
> or did they?

http://tinyurl.com/6bew6
Fido - 30 Jan 2005 23:34 GMT
"Roger \(B\)" <rcblinn-sss-@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:fydLd.4049$qJ3.3657@bignews1.bellsouth.net:

> "Fido" <tomchandNS@gwi.net> wrote...
>| http://tinyurl.com/4hau8
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> http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2003/iraq/forces/casualties/
> You can sort the 1,588 listed either alphabetically or by date.

http://home.cinci.rr.com/vladdies/salutebush.jpg
LoriMc - 30 Jan 2005 23:49 GMT
> "Roger \(B\)" <rcblinn-sss-@bellsouth.net> wrote in
>
>> "Fido" <tomchandNS@gwi.net> wrote...

This is one of those subjects where I think we all have to agree to
disagree.  Opinions on this run far and high.  None are all correct or
incorrect there are too many sides.

As I said to someone in a conversation earlier. I know how you feel about
this and I know how I feel about this, so lets not go here.

Lori Mc
Fido - 31 Jan 2005 00:28 GMT
>> "Roger \(B\)" <rcblinn-sss-@bellsouth.net> wrote in
>>
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>
> Lori Mc

http://tinyurl.com/55xj8
LoriMc - 31 Jan 2005 00:37 GMT
>>> "Roger \(B\)" <rcblinn-sss-@bellsouth.net> wrote in
>>>
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>
> http://tinyurl.com/55xj8

<shakes head>  we could trade photos about this back and forth all day and
it wouldn't change your or my view about this whole thing.
Fido - 31 Jan 2005 00:58 GMT
>>>> "Roger \(B\)" <rcblinn-sss-@bellsouth.net> wrote in
>>>>
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> <shakes head>  we could trade photos about this back and forth all day
> and it wouldn't change your or my view about this whole thing.

http://tinyurl.com/4b6oo
LoriMc - 31 Jan 2005 01:38 GMT
>>>>> "Roger \(B\)" <rcblinn-sss-@bellsouth.net> wrote in
>>>>>
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>
> http://tinyurl.com/4b6oo

LOL you are a mess. :p
Fido - 31 Jan 2005 05:56 GMT
> LOL you are a mess. :p

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Fido - 30 Jan 2005 15:46 GMT
While we have heard so much about terror attacks during the voting today,
so many risked their lives to come out anyway.

This was so important for so many....

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