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ed_spain - 26 Mar 2005 13:36 GMT
Hola Dudes / Dudettes,

When I was working with a client the other day on the checkout process
for his web site, I had to complete the full checkout process in Amazon
to compare. While there, I picked a book almost at random (Relationship
Rescue - can you tell what's always on my mine ;->), and just realized,
NOW, that it's by the famous "Dr. Phil". I've seen his name pop up here
but, being as disconnected as I am from American culture (I'm living in
Spain), this is my first contact with him.

I'm just curious... what do you people think of the guy? I guess you've
seen him on TV, heard him discussed around the water cooler (do they
still exist?), etc. Is it someone worth reading?

Thanks,
Ed
Patricia - 26 Mar 2005 14:43 GMT
>Hola Dudes / Dudettes,
>
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>Thanks,
>Ed

I think he talks a lot of common sense. He seems to be able to cut to
the root of the problem.

I have used his suggested ideas a couple of times to help me with
problems in my life.

Patricia
"Eat less; move more."
Bill in Co. - 26 Mar 2005 18:21 GMT
>> Hola Dudes / Dudettes,
>>
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> Patricia
> "Eat less; move more."

No, no, that's not it!    It's expect less, and you won't be disappointed.
Rambler - 26 Mar 2005 15:01 GMT
> Hola Dudes / Dudettes,
>
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> seen him on TV, heard him discussed around the water cooler (do they
> still exist?), etc. Is it someone worth reading?

Lessee, that was either book number one or book number two I read when
the stuff happened.  The other one was the Mars Yeranus one.

Actually, I liked them both (it's been debated in here a bunch, usually
with titters of "I can't believe you'd read that crap").  It helped to
address some things that I needed to incorporate into my life anyway.

That said, Ed, I get the feeling that it might kinda of be too late for
this.  I mean, never say never, but I'd be careful of getting yourself
emotionally hooked if there is slim chance.  Just a thought.

As an aside, you could kind of have tracked the demise of my marriage by
what I was reading.  It was in this order (save for the first two):

- Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus
- Relationship Rescue
- Controlled Seperations
- Rebuilding
- Mom's House, Dad's House

There might have been some others in there, but I read those in the four
weeks before the marriage went 'poof.'

Rambler
Laura - 26 Mar 2005 15:12 GMT
> As an aside, you could kind of have tracked the demise of my marriage by
> what I was reading.  It was in this order (save for the first two):
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> There might have been some others in there, but I read those in the four
> weeks before the marriage went 'poof.'

Instead of Relationship Rescue, I'd recommend reading "Life Strategies"
and "Self Matters" (also by Dr. Phil).  These will deal directly with
you and your life and how to make the most of it.
ed_spain - 26 Mar 2005 16:45 GMT
Hi Rambler,

> Lessee, that was either book number one or book number two I read when
> the stuff happened.  The other one was the Mars Yeranus one.

Mars - there were some things I liked there, but I wasn't overwhelmed.

> That said, Ed, I get the feeling that it might kinda of be too late for
> this.  I mean, never say never, but I'd be careful of getting yourself
> emotionally hooked if there is slim chance.  Just a thought.

Hahahahah, you're right, of course - like I said, it wasn't really a
planned purchase - just my subconsious grabbing what it wanted. I'm
even slowly starting to realize it's too late (well DUH!!!). However,
it HAS been a "good" divorce - maybe we can at least pull a friendship
out of it. Definitly not there yet, though.

> As an aside, you could kind of have tracked the demise of my marriage by
> what I was reading.  It was in this order (save for the first two):

Lol... I just glanced over at my bookshelf, and saw books on stock
options and how to best deal with employees - pretty much useless to me
now ;-> Hope you got your money's worth out of them.

> There might have been some others in there, but I read those in the four
> weeks before the marriage went 'poof.'

All that in 4 weeks?!?!? Geez, I just needed 3 weeks to finish "Jude
the Obscure", and I USED to be a fast reader. Too much going on in my
life now to get more than a dozen or so pages in a day.

Hasta Pronto,
Ed
shinypenny - 26 Mar 2005 15:39 GMT
> Hola Dudes / Dudettes,
>
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> Thanks,
> Ed

I'm a big Dr Phil fan, I think he makes a lot of sense. But when I
bought his book, Self Matters, I was disappointed. I don't think he (or
his ghost writer) writes all that well, and I had trouble getting
through the book because I kept getting stuck on the poor writing.
YMMV, of course.

If you're interested in learning more about him and his methods, I
highly recommend his web site, www.drphil.com. I don't watch t.v. much,
but I confess I routinely check out his site to catch up on his show.
It's a lot quicker to read through the daily slide-show, which I can do
in minutes, rather than sit through the whole hour. And, for me, it's
more helpful to see how he applies the advice in his book to real-life
situations.

jen
Elisa - 26 Mar 2005 15:40 GMT
> Hola Dudes / Dudettes,
>
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> Thanks,
> Ed

I use his line:  "and is that working for you?"  all the time at work (Human
Resource Manager).

Elisa
DrLith - 26 Mar 2005 23:03 GMT
> I'm just curious... what do you people think of the guy? I guess you've
> seen him on TV, heard him discussed around the water cooler (do they
> still exist?), etc. Is it someone worth reading?

I like Dr. Phil's "no BS" approach. I think he's sold himself out badly in
the past couple of years, but I also don't think that alters the validity of
his approach or his advice.

At this point in the game, you might find "Life Strategies" more valuable
than "Relationship Rescue."
Bill in Co. - 27 Mar 2005 00:13 GMT
>> I'm just curious... what do you people think of the guy? I guess you've
>> seen him on TV, heard him discussed around the water cooler (do they
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> At this point in the game, you might find "Life Strategies" more valuable
> than "Relationship Rescue."

I like Dr. Laura's no BS approach!
YooperBoyka - 27 Mar 2005 02:44 GMT
>>> I'm just curious... what do you people think of the guy? I guess you've
>>> seen him on TV, heard him discussed around the water cooler (do they
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>
> I like Dr. Laura's no BS approach!

I liked her nekkid pictures.
The Dave© - 26 Mar 2005 23:09 GMT
> ed_spain wrote:
> Hola Dudes / Dudettes,
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> you've seen him on TV, heard him discussed around the water cooler
> (do they still exist?), etc. Is it someone worth reading?

Hola back at'cha, Edwardo...

I think Dr. Phil  gives generally good advice, but it's not advice that
I haven't heard other people give for years and years.  Basically, he
has no original ideas, he's just mastered re-packaging the same old
time-tested truths.  That doesn't make him a bad guy, necessarily, just
not the wonderful guru some seem to think he is.
Nearl J Icarus - 27 Mar 2005 17:40 GMT
>has no original ideas, he's just mastered re-packaging the same old
>time-tested truths.  That doesn't make him a bad guy, necessarily, just
>not the wonderful guru some seem to think he is.

There probably isn't much "original ideas" left. You know, the "nothing new
under the sun" bit. I do like the way he doesn't let issues stray. Thats the
important part. You're not going to get anywhere beating around the bush.

The people who think he's a wonderful guru probably don't read the small
print.

"All material provided on the DrPhil.com web site is provided for
entertainment, educational or informational use only, is not necessarily
created or approved by a certified mental health professional..."

What is he a doctor of?
Bryan Dongray - 31 Mar 2005 19:51 GMT
> I'm just curious... what do you people think of the guy?

As others have said, he does have a good show with good advice.
Maybe some is reused/repackaged, but it's good. Although in his shows
sometimes he used to says some truths about men that women don't want
to hear. I don't know if he dropped those, to increase ratings.

I found (and you being from outside the USA may notice), Dr.Phil does
have a weird stream of thoughts that are anti-nakedness, any nakedness
is always bad because I'm sure he things only perverts think the human
body is something that can be seen by anyone outside your doctor, and
the bathroom wall.
If you see someone naked you are emotionally scarred for life!
But that is standard American culture beliefs on what is "proper",
it's quite prudish.
 
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