OT?: Gender stereotyping at VBS
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BP - 27 Jun 2005 03:32 GMT Tonight was our first night of this year's VBS (Vacation Bible School), and I volunteered to help out. I also helped out last year, just because I was taking my kids there every night so I would help out with whatever was needed. This year I signed up ahead of time, told them that I would prefer not to be in charge of anything but would be happy to assist with whoever needed me. Guess what they assigned me to do? I'm the group leader for the largest group of children (12 kids ages 6-8) with the most known "wild" kids in it - and they told me they did this on purpose, because they thought that a male leader might calm these kids down some!
So all of these super-moms who run the VBS, including the bubbly super-helpful types, the stern drill sergeant types, and everything in between, admit that they just can't handle these "behavior problem" kids and grab the first available man to do it!
Hmmm, I wonder if things go haywire with my divorce and my wife starts fighting me for custody, will all of these ladies come charging forward to testify for me? Probably not, since most of them are buddies with my wife or at least know her. Or else they'd say it doesn't matter, since my kids are not behavior problems.
OTOH, maybe they're just hazing me because I'm the only man among the adult volunteers. Whew, at least it only runs four more nights.
BP
Rog' - 27 Jun 2005 04:07 GMT > Tonight was our first night of this year's VBS (Vacation Bible > School), and I volunteered to help out.... [I] told them that I > would prefer not to be in charge of anything but would be > happy to assist with whoever needed me.... they assigned me... > group leader... If you had a spine, you'd tell them where to get off. But instead, it appears that you're a wus who'll do what you're told. =R=
BP - 27 Jun 2005 04:46 GMT >> Tonight was our first night of this year's VBS (Vacation Bible >> School), and I volunteered to help out.... [I] told them that I [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >If you had a spine, you'd tell them where to get off. But instead, >it appears that you're a wus who'll do what you're told. =R= Heh. I'll assume you're joking, otherwise you can just FOAD.
The gal who was my contact with the Powers That Be in charge of this year's VBS said that this way, I wouldn't actually be in charge of any particular activities, just herding my group of kids from one activity to the next. Yeah, right - that was before I found out I was getting the little hooligan gang, they waited to spring that on me tonight just as we got started. *g*
It was no problem, just had a couple of little guys that didn't seem to know the meaning of the word "No" until I explained it to them, then we got along just fine. *g*
BP
Grace - 27 Jun 2005 07:23 GMT Yeah, right - that was before I found out I was getting
> the little hooligan gang, they waited to spring that on me tonight > just as we got started. *g* [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > BP Glad it went well for you, BP. Still......the current governor of California did a cute movie called Kindergarten Cop. You might want to rent it, just in case. bigger grin
Grace always a little amazed that so many little helions turn up at Vacation Bible Camp.
Nearl J Icarus - 27 Jun 2005 08:25 GMT HopefullyGrace@aol.com says...
>Glad it went well for you, BP. Still......the current governor of >California did a cute movie called Kindergarten Cop. You might want >to rent it, just in case. bigger grin "Its not a tumor!" Yeah, it was a pretty funny movie. Whenever people try to bug me by making noises, I tell them they have to try harder than that. I raised 5 kids.
>always a little amazed that so many little helions turn up at Vacation >Bible Camp. Who else do you think is going to take care of 'em? The parents are probably looking for a little vacation of their own. 8-)
Grace - 27 Jun 2005 09:43 GMT > HopefullyGrace@aol.com says... > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Who else do you think is going to take care of 'em? The parents are probably > looking for a little vacation of their own. 8-) As the oldest of 5 children I have to agree with you on that one.. Everywhere we went it was like a small parade.
Grace
Bill in Co. - 27 Jun 2005 05:37 GMT >> Tonight was our first night of this year's VBS (Vacation Bible >> School), and I volunteered to help out.... [I] told them that I [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > If you had a spine, you'd tell them where to get off. But instead, > it appears that you're a wus who'll do what you're told. =R= What are you talking about? WHO today HAS a spine?
What a joke, we've become so PC, and defer all bouts to the lawyers, that NOBODY needs a spine anymore. As you should know.
I'll leave the light on for ya.
exredhead - 27 Jun 2005 04:42 GMT It is'nt because you are male,really.You are just fresh meat in the volunteer pool. I've seen it before.
S.Taylor - 27 Jun 2005 11:25 GMT This is not a surprise. Women will always yield to men when the going gets difficult. When the social/financial situation is steady they will demand (and use their sexuality) to obtain leadership positions. This is the hallmark of feminism.
Feminist filth is everywhere...
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>Tonight was our first night of this year's VBS (Vacation Bible >School), and I volunteered to help out. I also helped out last year, [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > >BP My Own Doppelganger - 27 Jun 2005 23:40 GMT Yup - Exredhead is right...you is fresh meat to be taken advantage of. Isn't it like...no pain, no gain? :-)
>Tonight was our first night of this year's VBS (Vacation Bible >School), and I volunteered to help out. I also helped out last year, [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > >BP -------- In a cold world you need your friends to keep you warm.
A man - 28 Jun 2005 14:30 GMT Tell the people who run VBS that you will only do it if you have the power to kick out the trouble makers. It might just result in that after you tried everything else.
Also, you don't give kids sugar and expect them to behave well. And sugar is what is served the most at VBS, cub scouts and other non-profit functions. Don't give them cool aid, pop, juice, cookies, popsicles, or anything with sugar. I find when I cut out the sugar my son (age 9) acts much better.
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BP - 28 Jun 2005 15:53 GMT >Tell the people who run VBS that you will only do it if you have the power to >kick out the trouble makers. It might just result in that after you tried >everything else. Well, GOSH, I guess churches (and most other things) would just run a lot better if we just kick out the troublemakers. Kinda counter-productive, though, when you are trying to get a message across to kids who might not have heard it before, or might not have been paying attention in Sunday School.
The kids are not nearly the problem they were made out to be. There are two little boys who do most of the disruption, and simply separating them to opposite parts of any activity we are doing has helped a lot. Also, some of these ladies who have had prior experience with these two kids just seem to have no patience with them at all, and tend to yell at them for the smallest things - the kids are in effect being punished for past misbehavior in addition to whatever they happen to do now.
>Also, you don't give kids sugar and expect them to behave well. And sugar is >what is served the most at VBS, cub scouts and other non-profit functions. >Don't give them cool aid, pop, juice, cookies, popsicles, or anything with >sugar. I find when I cut out the sugar my son (age 9) acts much better. Duh! They don't get any of that stuff at our VBS. What they get at home before they show up is out of our control.
The kids are not a problem, and I was not asking for "solutions" to this non-existent problem, just commenting on what I saw as a slightly ironic situation with all of these super-mom types setting me up for the "behavior problems" they couldn't handle.
BP
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