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Rog' - 21 Sep 2005 04:01 GMT
Background:  My ex and I wore my parents rings as our own
for 18 years.  For the last five, they've been in a jewelry box
that I inherited from my mother, and I had not given them a 2d
thought.  Tonight, my brother e-mails me and says that his wife
wants to know if I have my mother's wedding ring, so it can be
passed on to one of their daughters to use (I have no children).

I looked in the box to see if they're still there.  On one hand, it
makes sense to pass these down to my nieces.  OTOH, they
have meaning for me. as well.  I reply that I will give the rings
to one of their daughters, if and when there's a marriage.  But I
wonder if I should keep them, or just give them to my brother?
:-/  =R=
Joe St. Lucas - 21 Sep 2005 04:19 GMT
>I looked in the box to see if they're still there.  On one hand, it
>makes sense to pass these down to my nieces.  OTOH, they
>have meaning for me. as well.  I reply that I will give the rings
>to one of their daughters, if and when there's a marriage.  But I
>wonder if I should keep them, or just give them to my brother?

So the rings were there?  Give them to your brother if and when a
daughter gets married.  It could be that she won't even want it and
wants something of her own.
My Own Doppelganger - 21 Sep 2005 04:38 GMT
You're not giving them to your brother.  You're giving the rings to
your niece.  I know...semantics, but one of my law professors said
that law is about language and if you use the wrong words, people will
laugh at you.  :-)

>Background:  My ex and I wore my parents rings as our own
>for 18 years.  For the last five, they've been in a jewelry box
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>wonder if I should keep them, or just give them to my brother?
>:-/  =R=

--------
You can't change the past, but you can change the future.
m.L - 21 Sep 2005 05:58 GMT
>Background:  My ex and I wore my parents rings as our own
>for 18 years.  For the last five, they've been in a jewelry box
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>wonder if I should keep them, or just give them to my brother?
>:-/  =R=

Try not to attach too much emotional importance to a piece of metal, rock,
etc.  Things are just things.
Nearl J Icarus - 21 Sep 2005 10:01 GMT
NO@blah.blahhhhh says...

>>I looked in the box to see if they're still there.  On one hand, it
>>makes sense to pass these down to my nieces.  OTOH, they
>>have meaning for me. as well.  I reply that I will give the rings
>>to one of their daughters, if and when there's a marriage.  But I
>>wonder if I should keep them, or just give them to my brother?

How does your brother feel about the rings? If his only concern was for his
daughter to use, then keep the rings. If he'd like to be the caretaker for a
while, then it would be nice to pass them on. They could have some meaning for
him too.

I don't have much of an example to go by. When I left NY, I took my Dad's
shotgun and a .22 rifle he had (it was his training rifle when he was in the
army). Dad died 7 years after I left. I was talking to my brother one time and
he told me that he had been looking for Dad's shotgun but didn't know where it
was. I gave it to him. It had meaning for him as well as it did for me.
ed_spain - 21 Sep 2005 08:48 GMT
Hi Rog,

Don't mean to attack you, but I'll give you my gut reaction on this
one...

>For the last five, they've been in a jewelry box
> that I inherited from my mother, and I had not given them a 2d
> thought.

My son will leave a toy forgotten for months, and then all the sudden
claim ownership on the day his little sister starts playing with it. If
you haven't thought about them in 5 years, you're being just a bit
childish about not giving them away to family now. Even if they end up
selling them (which I guess is what you're worried about), who cares?
Forget them for 5 more years ;->

In any case, they'll get better use than mine, which ended up in the
trash.

HTH,
Ed
Rog' - 21 Sep 2005 23:44 GMT
> Hi Rog,
> Don't mean to attack you, but I'll give you my gut reaction
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> In any case, they'll get better use than mine, which ended up in the
> trash.
--------------------------
I think that you make a good point.  I had felt responsible as a
"caretaker" for these family mementos, but I'd have to admit that
my brother is /almost/ as reliable as I and /somewhat/ trustworthy,
so maybe its now time to turns the reigns over to him.  =R=
Big RJ - 22 Sep 2005 00:03 GMT
>> Hi Rog,
>> Don't mean to attack you, but I'll give you my gut reaction
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> my brother is /almost/ as reliable as I and /somewhat/ trustworthy,
> so maybe its now time to turns the reigns over to him.  =R=

Rog,

Like someone mentioned before you aren't giving them to your brother they
are going to your niece......  How does she view the rings?  She probably
wouldn't even want them when she gets the option.  She'll want a nice shiney
new one that cost about $10,000.

Big RJ
LoriMc - 22 Sep 2005 00:25 GMT
>>> Hi Rog,
>>> Don't mean to attack you, but I'll give you my gut reaction
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>
> Big RJ

You know kids will surprise you sometimes. I recently gave my daughter (23)
the wedding rings from her father and my marriage, she was very touched and
wears the engagement ring daily (says it reminds her of me and her father).
It is a small ring and not at all fancy, as at that time in my life money
was very scarce, so I was really surprised at her reaction when I gave it to
her.

LoriMc
m.L - 22 Sep 2005 01:05 GMT
>>>> Hi Rog,
>>>> Don't mean to attack you, but I'll give you my gut reaction
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
>was very scarce, so I was really surprised at her reaction when I gave it to
>her.

Some still cherish things for value other than monetary.  :-)
(if i had a $10,000 ring i'd never wear it)
Bill in Co. - 22 Sep 2005 02:57 GMT
>>>>> Hi Rog,
>>>>> Don't mean to attack you, but I'll give you my gut reaction
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>>
>> You know kids will surprise you sometimes. I recently gave my daughter
(23)
>> the wedding rings from her father and my marriage, she was very touched
and
>> wears the engagement ring daily (says it reminds her of me and her
father).
>> It is a small ring and not at all fancy, as at that time in my life money
>> was very scarce, so I was really surprised at her reaction when I gave it
to
>> her.
>
> Some still cherish things for value other than monetary.  :-)

Nonsense, you OLD TIMER.    (You need to get with the times, girl).
m.L - 22 Sep 2005 03:51 GMT
>Nonsense, you OLD TIMER.    (You need to get with the times, girl).

Who ya callin' OLD!!
:-)
YooperBoyka - 22 Sep 2005 07:36 GMT
>>Nonsense, you OLD TIMER.    (You need to get with the times, girl).
>
> Who ya callin' OLD!!
> :-)

Yeah,...pop 'im inna jaw!
We ain't old !!!!
...and neither is he.

He's jus' usin' it as an excuse ta not *do* anything.
Nearl J Icarus - 22 Sep 2005 10:53 GMT
surly_curmudgeon08@earthlink.net says...

>> Some still cherish things for value other than monetary.  :-)
>Nonsense, you OLD TIMER.    (You need to get with the times, girl).

I don't know about that. I have an old club sword that my grandfather gave to
me. My 29 year old has often told me that he wants it when the time comes.
I've got an old trunk that I've had since I was 6. My 24 year old daughter has
dibs on it. (in a previous post I think I said she was 23). That .22 rifle I
mentioned a little while ago is in my youngest son's room. (he is 16).

It took me a while to get my hands on that sword myself. My brother told me it
was his. I tried for years to get that sword from him. It wasn't until I had
grown up that Mom told me that sword was mine to begin with.
Rog' - 22 Sep 2005 13:10 GMT
> I have an old club sword that my grandfather gave to me.
> My 29 year old has often told me that he wants it when the
> time comes.  <snip> It took me a while to get my hands on
> that sword myself. My brother told me it was his. I tried for
> years to get that sword from him. It wasn't until I had grown
> up that Mom told me that sword was mine to begin with.

I haven't rec'd a response to the e-mail that I sent my brother
on Tuesday.  I'm guessing that he (or his snooty wife) are
somewhat peeved that I didn't just say I'd had the rings over.
Well, his daughters are only 5 & 8 now, so there's no rush,
and he got a fair share of stuff from our parents, already. =R=
Big RJ - 23 Sep 2005 00:58 GMT
>> I have an old club sword that my grandfather gave to me.
>> My 29 year old has often told me that he wants it when the
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Well, his daughters are only 5 & 8 now, so there's no rush,
> and he got a fair share of stuff from our parents, already. =R=

Damnit Rog' you got us all worked up for a 5 and an 8 year old?

Grrrrr.....

Very funny though.

Big
Nearl J Icarus - 23 Sep 2005 09:30 GMT
rcblinnNoSpam@bellsouth.net says...

>somewhat peeved that I didn't just say I'd had the rings over.
>Well, his daughters are only 5 & 8 now, so there's no rush,
>and he got a fair share of stuff from our parents, already. =R=

Do what!? 5 & 8?? Somehow I came up with the impression that they were a lot
closer to getting married than that. With that tidbit of information, I would
say those rings are just fine where they are.

Neither my brother or I have much of anything that belonged to Dad. Dad was
living in CO when he died. I had more than my brother did so I didn't mind
passing a little bit to him. I was in OK and my brother was in NY at the time.
Big RJ - 23 Sep 2005 00:55 GMT
>>>> Hi Rog,
>>>> Don't mean to attack you, but I'll give you my gut reaction
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
>
> LoriMc
Lori,

That is a wonderful story.  You gave YOUR rings to your child and she
appreciates them.  Rog' has the option of giving his PARENTS rings to their
grandchild.  That one extra step may make a difference.  JMHO.

Big
Rambler - 27 Sep 2005 17:16 GMT
> That is a wonderful story.  You gave YOUR rings to your child and she
> appreciates them.  Rog' has the option of giving his PARENTS rings to their
> grandchild.  That one extra step may make a difference.  JMHO.

Lori's story is great ... and how it is supposed to be, methinks.

Rog has, IMNSHO, a fantastic opportunity here.  He is (if I read things
right) the Big Brother.  He has the opportunity to hold onto those
rings, as the big brother, and then present them in 12 or 20 years as
part of "da family."  We are all tied together.  Can you imagine what
those kids will think when Uncle Rog says, "This was your grandma's...."

Rambler
Exray - 22 Sep 2005 01:00 GMT
> Hi Rog,
>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> HTH,
> Ed

One of the things I've learned as I've gotten older is that the things I
used to own that I still have now own me instead.  I look at things and have
trouble parting with them, as if I'm a custodian of something precious.

The opportunity to give some of my stuff to somebody who actually asks for
it (instead of violating the unwritten and essentially imaginary terms of my
stewardship) would be a real blessing to me.

Give up the ring and happily scratch one thing from your long list of
unneeded responsibilities.
YooperBoyka - 21 Sep 2005 13:21 GMT
> Background:  My ex and I wore my parents rings as our own
> for 18 years.  For the last five, they've been in a jewelry box
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> wonder if I should keep them, or just give them to my brother?
> :-/  =R=

Listen to that old Gary Lewis and the Playboys song, and then ask again.
 
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