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MIL returned the quilt.

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~*LiveLoveLaugh*~ - 26 Nov 2005 17:51 GMT
I think it was last year that I gave my MIL and FIL a handmade quilt that my
paternal grandmother made.  She has made a ton of them over the years, and I
have five or six of them.  The last one that my dad gave me is the one I
gave to my MIL and FIL.  Dad knew I was going to do this and was fine with
it.  My STBX just brought it in from the car in a box.  He said his mom
wanted to return it to me because it's an heirloom.  I respect the thought
behind it, but I'm hurt AGAIN.

Is this marriage evaporating as if it never existed??  Is that what it seems
like to anyone else, or is it just me??  I am so sad, and I am so tired of
being reminded almost every day that the end has happened, and I am not a
part of "them" anymore.  :(

`Had to vent/share/talk/cry out loud...

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Longshot - 26 Nov 2005 17:59 GMT
I think its sweet that they returned it. that shows respect for you & your
grandma. If they didnt want it they could have just tossed it. dont read so
much into it.
JMO
LS
WhansaMi - 26 Nov 2005 18:03 GMT
> I think it was last year that I gave my MIL and FIL a handmade quilt that my
> paternal grandmother made.  She has made a ton of them over the years, and I
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>
> `Had to vent/share/talk/cry out loud...

Lots of people still have decent relationships with their ex-in-laws.  If
you always have, then maybe now is the time to step up and say so.

I think it was very thoughtful for your MIL to return the quilt, since it
was something of an heirloom.  Her heart sounds like it is in the right
place.  But, I also think it would be perfectly fine for you to pick up the
telephone and say to her, "I know that your son and I are getting divorced,
but you have become part of the family of my heart.  I would really like it
if you kept the quilt.  Just because your son and I cannot stay married, it
doesn't mean, to me, that you have to be cut out of my life.  I gave the
quilt to you as an indication that you are a part of my life.  Whether or
not your son and I are together, whether or not you and I are in contact,
that is quite simply, a truth.  I'd like for you to have it."

For me, gifts are given out of respect and caring.  If you felt that for
these people, there is no need to take the gift back.  If you continue to
have a relationship with them, great.  If, for whatever reason, that can't
be... well, that's the way it is.  But, it doesn't negate what *was* -- that
you cared for them

Sheila
BP - 26 Nov 2005 18:44 GMT
>I think it was very thoughtful for your MIL to return the quilt, since it
>was something of an heirloom.  Her heart sounds like it is in the right
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>not your son and I are together, whether or not you and I are in contact,
>that is quite simply, a truth.  I'd like for you to have it."

Yeah, what she said.

If you'd like to continue having a decent relationship w/ your
stbx-inlaws, I think that asking them if they'd like to keep the
quilt, and explaining why as Sheila said above, would be a good start
to continuing cordial relations even if you and their son will no
longer be married.

BP
Rodney M. - 27 Nov 2005 02:44 GMT
> >I think it was very thoughtful for your MIL to return the quilt, since it
> >was something of an heirloom.  Her heart sounds like it is in the right
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> to continuing cordial relations even if you and their son will no
> longer be married.

This question has got me thinking... I used to have a great
relationship with my in laws. I still respect them very much, they are
great people, and probably were one of the reasons that breaking up
with my ex was hard - I knew I wasn't losing much of a marriage, but I
knew I was going to lose a lot of great relationships with a great
family.

When my ex left I grieved the loss of her family. I felt the depth of
that loss keenly. And they have too. But now, it seems its done. I feel
bad because they aren't part of my life at all. It's not that I
couldn't talk to them because I have on rare occasion and if I bump
into them we are cordial, but it seems like when it's done, it's really
done for me. When she left, this huge door slammed shut, and everyone
on 'her side' of the door just 'died' in my life.

I don't feel bad about not missing my ex in the least, but I feel a
little guilty that it's almost the same for the rest of her family. Is
it unkind/odd to just cut them off like that or is that a 'normal' part
of saying goodbye?
Joe St. Lucas - 27 Nov 2005 03:30 GMT
>This question has got me thinking... I used to have a great
>relationship with my in laws.

My son got married in august and the ex-in-laws were there.  I always got
along fine w. my (ex) MIL and at the wedding and reception you wouldn't have
known that their daughter divorced me seven years ago, we all got along fine.  
Matter of fact, the ex MIL and my wife were talking a lot like they were old
best friends.  Probably the alcohol had something to do with it, but the
alcohol also could have made people mean.  It's possible to have a good
relationship with old in-laws.
coorslte - 30 Nov 2005 00:31 GMT
>>This question has got me thinking... I used to have a great
>>relationship with my in laws.
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> alcohol also could have made people mean.  It's possible to have a good
> relationship with old in-laws.
I have a cordial relationship with my ex in-laws and we have been to
many of my kids "life events" together.   We always talk and enjoy each
other's company.....but I am not invited to the Sunday afternoon
cookouts, dinner during the week or to view the football game.   It is
different now.
m.L - 27 Nov 2005 03:43 GMT
>This question has got me thinking... I used to have a great
>relationship with my in laws. I still respect them very much, they are
>great people, and probably were one of the reasons that breaking up
>with my ex was hard - I knew I wasn't losing much of a marriage, but I
>knew I was going to lose a lot of great relationships with a great
>family.

Got me thinking, too.  My ex sent me an icq msg (how we usually communicate
about the kids, schedules, family plans, etc).  He said that my dad called him
up to wish him a happy birthday.  Almost blew me away, those two NEVER got
along!  It's so much nicer for the kids/grandkids this way.
BP - 27 Nov 2005 06:50 GMT
>I don't feel bad about not missing my ex in the least, but I feel a
>little guilty that it's almost the same for the rest of her family. Is
>it unkind/odd to just cut them off like that or is that a 'normal' part
>of saying goodbye?

I took my kids (well, 3 of them) out to visit their maternal
grandparents back in July. Like I said then to my ex-FIL, regardless
of the fact that I am no longer married to their daughter, they will
always be the grandparents of my children. That relationship
continues. They live about a thousand miles away so there is not a lot
of contact, but I do exchange emails with them sometimes and send them
pictures of the kids and so forth.

BP
My Own Doppelganger - 29 Nov 2005 01:48 GMT
Good for you!

That is the proper thing to do for the grandparents.  Your kindness
will most certainly be reflected in your children's upbringing.

>>I don't feel bad about not missing my ex in the least, but I feel a
>>little guilty that it's almost the same for the rest of her family. Is
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>
>BP

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My Own Doppelganger - 26 Nov 2005 21:10 GMT
Yeah.  I don't get that.  I mean if it was a gift, why the hell would
a person give it back.  It is insensitive and rude.  I wonder what
Miss. Manners would say about this.

I once knew someone who's MIL came into my friend's house and demanded
that gifts (toys) to her grandson would be returned.  Man, go figure.

Sorry you had to experience this.

>I think it was last year that I gave my MIL and FIL a handmade quilt that my
>paternal grandmother made.  She has made a ton of them over the years, and I
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
>`Had to vent/share/talk/cry out loud...

____________________
You do what you do and you pay for your sins
and there's no such thing as what might have been...
that's a waste of time...drive you out of your mind...
wickedways - 27 Nov 2005 02:25 GMT
 wow, I'm sure that hurt a GREAT DEAL....there are so many of these
reminders when relationships end...so many "repeat losses" and
echoes....it was considerate of her to return it rather than sell it on
ebay (lousy joke, sorry)....Put it on a closet or trunk somewhere and
save it for someone special. I know it's hard, but....the original
symbolism of the quilt remains and that can't be stolen.

 >I think it was last year that I gave my MIL and FIL a handmade quilt
that my
 > paternal grandmother made.  She has made a ton of them over the
years, and I
 > have five or six of them.  The last one that my dad gave me is the
one I
 > gave to my MIL and FIL.  Dad knew I was going to do this and was
fine with
 > it.  My STBX just brought it in from the car in a box.  He said his
mom
 > wanted to return it to me because it's an heirloom.  I respect the
thought
 > behind it, but I'm hurt AGAIN.
 >
 > Is this marriage evaporating as if it never existed??  Is that what
it seems
 > like to anyone else, or is it just me??  I am so sad, and I am so
tired of
 > being reminded almost every day that the end has happened, and I am
not a
 > part of "them" anymore.  :(
 >
 > `Had to vent/share/talk/cry out loud...
 >
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 >
 > *~*LiveLoveLaugh, and hangin' in there!*~*
 >
 > "How disappointment tracks the steps of hope..."
 > ~Letitia Landon
 >
 >
 >
~*LiveLoveLaugh*~ - 27 Nov 2005 02:32 GMT
>   wow, I'm sure that hurt a GREAT DEAL....there are so many of these
> reminders when relationships end...so many "repeat losses" and
> echoes....it was considerate of her to return it rather than sell it on
> ebay (lousy joke, sorry)....Put it on a closet or trunk somewhere and
> save it for someone special. I know it's hard, but....the original
> symbolism of the quilt remains and that can't be stolen.

I appreciate everyone's replies, and I agree.  I'm going to keep it.  I'll
use it one day, or I'll give it to someone I love one day.  Either way,
it'll be cherished by me.

Y'all have to understand that when something happens with this "procedure",
I come in here and just start typing.  Sometimes I know the reply.
Sometimes I want someone to agree with me even tho' I'm wrong.  I'm just
venting a lot of the times.

Thanks to everyone, or anyone who understands!!

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>   >I think it was last year that I gave my MIL and FIL a handmade quilt
> that my
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Michael A. Ball - 27 Nov 2005 04:09 GMT
>I think it was last year that I gave my MIL and FIL a handmade quilt that my
>paternal grandmother made...The last one that my dad gave me is the one I
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>
>`Had to vent/share/talk/cry out loud...

Sheila's imaginary dialog is really powerful; and it about what my first recommendation
would be. I tend to believe your MIL cared for the quilt. I think it has been stored,
safely in a box, rather than out on the linen shelf, where it might have been used and
deteriorated. That's merely speculation, of course.

What if MIL and/or FIL love you so much that they can't bear to have such a treasured
reminder of you. You would like the quilt to serve as a reminder of good things, but what
if they actually see it as a painful reminded? They might think that you won't want to
remain a part of their life! Either way, it's a great reason to follow Sheila's
recommendation!

Now, to play the devil's advocate. Even when it is for the best, divorce always saddens
me. It is the breaking of something that should not be broken. You seem like a fine
person, and as unlikely as it now seems, someday you are apt to find a new love and have a
new family. Will your new husband understand your attachment to your current MIL and FIL?
He might; or he might be threatened by it. Will your new MIL and FIL pick at your
attachment to your current MIL and FIL? Maybe.

Again I say, follow Sheila's recommendation, but make certain you do it for the right
reason. As you might know, we sometimes want others to keep an object because we hope,
even believe, it will perpetuate a tie--from both directions. When it happens, it is a
good thing; it's the sort of thing Sheila is talking about! And it is the opposite of what
I'm suggesting might happen. If you offer the quilt again, and they decline your
invitation, let it end there.

The things you're feeling about the divorce, itself, are quite typical. Even divorces
where spousal abuse has existed are still sad, because it is not what we wanted. At least,
not what we would have preferred.

I think the most important thing about divorce is that we learn from our mistakes; some of
which are often made long *before* the wedding.

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