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MEN: take a good, hard look at the women around you.

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Troy - 10 Jun 2006 04:46 GMT
If you have a brain, then you know damn well that the U.S. is a society
on a STEEP decline.

The feminization aspect the author below speaks of is a very large
symptom of this decline, and part of the overall trend towards
consumerism and hedonism.

American women, take note:  you are in big trouble.

http://tinyurl.com/k7hhy

Rampant MissBehaving

In the past week, I read two uncannily similar articles about a growing
American trend: unruly fiancées. Betrothed women are exhibiting the
wanton, unrestrained behavior once ascribed solely to men celebrating
the end of bachelorhood. Moreover, they are exposing themselves and
erasing boundaries in ways men never did. Future brides, though, are
not alone in their propensity to "MissBehave." We are seeing
raucous female behavior across the spectrum from teenage girls, college
girls, and adult women-single and married. Alas, this trend
exacerbates the double standard that negatively affects men.

In a piece from FoxNews.com entitled "Brides Gone Wild, Grooms Gone
Mild," posted on May 31, 2006, C. Spencer Beggs wrote that women are
trekking in droves to Las Vegas for premarital romps and excessive
binging on alcohol. Here is a representative quote from Beggs's
article: "It was a blast," Margie Parsons, of Huber Heights, Ohio,
said of her bachelorette party at a strip club. "I got handcuffed to
the stage and two women gave me a lap dance." Nice.

"What happens in Las Vegas stays in Las Vegas" is a popular
commercial mantra that must be a source of frustration to the
bride-to-be with no boundaries and a penchant for exhibitionism. So,
after making a jackass of herself in Sin City, why not continue the
insanity on her wedding day?

On June 2, 2006, the Wall Street Journal printed Jon Weinbach's
article, "Brides Gone Wild," about women hiring photographers and
videographers to immortalize them in their bras and panties, just
before donning their wedding dresses. Weinbach regales us about a male
photog snapping pix of Alison and her 12 bridesmaids in their
underwear. Huh?

Mrs. Brettschneider, Alison's mother-in-law from tony Larchmont, NY,
reviewed the proofs and deemed a few images inappropriate for public
consumption, including one of Alison showing her G-string and back
tattoo. "My in-laws weren't too happy about that," says the
bride, "but it was such a cool shot."

Cool? Mrs. Brettschneider even had to admonish Alison that eventually
her future kids would see those shots. Duh. Why didn't the
29-year-old bride realize this? And, where was the groom? Was he too
brainwashed to join in his mortified mother's rightful objection?

MissBehaving starts young. Look no further than YouTube.com, a global
video-viewing phenomenon. This Website allows everyone and anyone to
upload videos for the whole world to see. YouTube viewers are watching
50 million videos per day-from Hollywood movie trailers to rock-group
music videos to wacky home movies to, yes, teenage and college girls
doing striptease.

Many parents are unaware that their "sweet, innocent" daughters are
exposing themselves to the world. Using the webcams of their bedroom
and dorm-room PCs, they create provocative videos and upload them to
YouTube. Why? Boundaries are meaningless. Exhibitionism is cool.

If you are still naïve enough to believe that women are more faithful
than men, check out AshleyMadison.com, which supplies men for women who
cheat on their husbands and boyfriends. When Monogamy Becomes Monotony
is the motto of this service. Shocked?

Welcome to reality. Bonus for the unsuspecting husband: If his cheating
wife's tryst produces a child, and he raises this child as his own,
most states will force him to support it until age 18-even if he
later discovers that he is not the child's father. Ain't
MissBehavin' great?

Much Ado About Nothing?

Do I care that women get drunk at strip joints, pose half-nude for
their wedding albums, perform striptease on YouTube, and cheat on their
husbands? At one level, I don't care. We live in a free society. Why,
then, do I want to expose women for exposing themselves?

Two reasons. First, I am a member of society, and any deterioration of
my society affects me. Deterioration of society from within the family
begets more and larger government programs to compensate for what the
family lacks. This is an atrocious state of affairs, antithetical to
the principles of the United States.

Second, our society believes that women are better behaved than men,
despite evidence to the contrary. After all, we're not reading about
grooms and their best men posing in their underwear for wedding albums,
are we? The women described in this article are permitted to become
mothers, role models, and they are ill-equipped to teach children right
vs. wrong. Those children will, in turn, become parents and perpetuate
the weakening of society's fabric.

Accordingly, policemen and judges in family and criminal courts tend to
presume women-especially mothers-innocent, while presuming
men-especially fathers-guilty, giving women wide latitude to bend
and even violate court orders. A highly esteemed lawyer once told me
that judges deem identical behavior as violence, coming from a man, and
emotion, coming from a woman.

In almost all cases, when a woman confesses to falsely accusing a man
of rape-a false accusation is a felony-she is released unpunished.
And, every time Bill O'Reilly, host of The O'Reilly Factor on Fox
News, debates Geraldo Rivera about an adult female, especially a
teacher, having sex with a minor boy, Rivera laughs it off as a joke.
It isn't a joke.

As I've written previously, the double standard exists on TV, too.
Women can endlessly insult and assault men, and America considers that
funny. But, if men were to behave similarly toward women on any TV
show, it would be off the air after one episode.

This anti-male bias, which begins in elementary schools, is
unreasonable and unfair to all of society. In elementary schools,
teachers confer upon girls, who tend to be mild at that age,
behavior-benchmark status. When boys act rambunctiously, as they do at
that age, many teachers force their parents to put them on Ritalin.
Women good, men bad. Girls good, boys bad.

This anti-male bias raises its ugly head in our reproductive and
domestic-violence laws. Here are but three examples:

* Roe v. Wade-gives women the right to choose abortion, gives men no
rights

* VAWA (Violence Against Women Act)-gives women, even illegal aliens,
wide latitude and financial assistance to accuse and falsely accuse men
of violence; provides no legal relief or financial assistance to men
whom women physically abuse, even though women and men physically abuse
each other in equal percentages

* Safe-Haven Laws-47 states allow women, without penalty, to deposit
their unwanted newborns at fire stations within 72 hours of birth, and
to change their minds two weeks thereafter. Men must abide by whatever
decisions the women make.

No-Nonsense Bottom Line

Clearly, men are limited in their rights and behaviors. Women, on the
other hand, are behaving in ways unimagined just a few years ago-with
impunity, indulgence, and great latitude. A woman can waltz into the
office, dressed provocatively. If a man makes even a flattering comment
to her, and she decides to make an issue of it, his life can end on
that day. Women have gone wild and are becoming wilder. They are
MissBehaving rampantly and the government encourages it.

If our society continues to tolerate the double standard that condones
women and condemns men for identical behaviors, continues to offer
special privileges to women, and fails to criticize women and hold them
accountable for their MissBehaving, this trendline will lead us to a
predictable, preventable, ultimate end, embodied by three bleak
outcomes:

1. Men will become almost irrelevant
2. Women will self-destruct
3. Children will become criminals and wards of the state.
Kitty - 10 Jun 2006 04:49 GMT
> If you have a brain, then you know damn well that the U.S. is a society
> on a STEEP decline.

That's right.
Move to Congo, you'll have much better luck and life there.
Bill in Co. - 10 Jun 2006 04:52 GMT
>> If you have a brain, then you know damn well that the U.S. is a society
>> on a STEEP decline.
>
> That's right.
> Move to Congo, you'll have much better luck and life there.

Congo?    The Belgian Congo still exists??
Kitty - 10 Jun 2006 07:09 GMT
> >> If you have a brain, then you know damn well that the U.S. is a society
> >> on a STEEP decline.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Congo?    The Belgian Congo still exists??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Congo_War
Bill in Co. - 10 Jun 2006 09:16 GMT
>>>> If you have a brain, then you know damn well that the U.S. is a society
>>>> on a STEEP decline.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Congo_War

Hey!   That's not bad.   I'm only 4 decades behind the times.    Gee, I feel
great.
Kitty - 11 Jun 2006 05:21 GMT
>I'm only 4 decades behind the times.  

Did you *just now* figure that out?
Bill in Co. - 11 Jun 2006 08:21 GMT
>> I'm only 4 decades behind the times.
>
> Did you *just now* figure that out?

yeah, well, where's the fire???
Kitty - 11 Jun 2006 08:51 GMT
>>> I'm only 4 decades behind the times.
>>
>> Did you *just now* figure that out?
>
>yeah, well, where's the fire???

well then, keep on keeping on.
John Smith - 11 Jun 2006 00:45 GMT
> > If you have a brain, then you know damn well that the U.S. is a society
> > on a STEEP decline.
>
> That's right.
> Move to Congo, you'll have much better luck and life there.

Kitty litter, interesting that you think that your own country of Serbia is
below Congo. Also, what a racist jerk you are for thinking that Congo is a
backwards country. Don't bring your brand of Serbian racism to America
please!
A. - 11 Jun 2006 19:39 GMT
> > > If you have a brain, then you know damn well that the U.S. is a society
> > > on a STEEP decline.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> backwards country. Don't bring your brand of Serbian racism to America
> please!

Below in terms of what?  Is there some overall "country hierarchy"
that you're referring to?

Kitty compared the Congo to here - and well, 3.5 million violently
dead people in what, 12 years, is a bit high.  Even if you combine
all non-natural deaths together in the U.S. and don't control for
population size (we have way more people here), I think you'll find
that's not a good statistic.

Not to mention that something like 10 million a year flee Congo
for other countries and no one knows the real death stats there.

Amazing Congo doesn't get more press.  Yes, Serbia has had
its problems, Kitty didn't imply that they haven't.

This guy is the same troll, different name.  He likes intellectual
responses and stimulation from women, so he provokes them.
It's Sunday, some of us are in a giving mood.

A.
Kitty - 11 Jun 2006 21:01 GMT
>> > > If you have a brain, then you know damn well that the U.S. is a society
>> > > on a STEEP decline.
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>responses and stimulation from women, so he provokes them.
>It's Sunday, some of us are in a giving mood.

Oh, hi :) Meet John Smith, he's my personal pet troll.
I wish he could at least he my home country right, but oh well, he's
doing the best he can.

Bringing up Congo was a way of saying, if you don't like what goes on
in the US *that badly* move elsewhere. if they wanna move to Serbia
instead's, well, they can suit themselves.

I'd love to see them survive in a society that has no freedom of
speech, where posts like that would land them in jail for life.
_mL_ - 10 Jun 2006 06:52 GMT
Stop hiding in the basement looking at porn.

>If you have a brain, then you know damn well that the U.S. is a society
>on a STEEP decline.
[quoted text clipped - 158 lines]
>2=2E Women will self-destruct
>3=2E Children will become criminals and wards of the state.
siskiyou_sam@yahoo.com - 10 Jun 2006 13:23 GMT
> Stop hiding in the basement looking at porn.

There goes his love life! [LMAO!]

Sam
Kitty - 10 Jun 2006 07:20 GMT
> This anti-male bias raises its ugly head in our reproductive and
> domestic-violence laws. Here are but three examples:
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> Clearly, men are limited in their rights and behaviors.

How about we do it this way:
Men worry about controlling their dicks, and where they make semen
deposits, and us wimminz will worry about our body parts.
You hav all the control you need. You just don't like it when it spoils
your fun. You want control after you're done having fun. Guess what,
nature arranged for something different.
Quit yer whining and deal with it.

It's just a as stupid for you to complain about your reproduvctive
rights after you left a deposit, as it is for a woman to complain that
he didn'tpull it out, after she went into it without birth control.

And learn how to pick a reliable mate, rather then whining asking that
the government cleans up a mess you and some airhead tart made.

I'm gonna sould like Bill here, in the good ole 50's guys used to know
to leave their deposits inside a sock, take it with him and wash it
off.

Lemme tell ya about the birds and the bees here, immaturitry and
irreponsibility in choices you make does limit your freedoms.
Consequences are a biatch, aren't they?
Troy - 10 Jun 2006 10:11 GMT
> > This anti-male bias raises its ugly head in our reproductive and
> > domestic-violence laws. Here are but three examples:
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> rights after you left a deposit, as it is for a woman to complain that
> he didn'tpull it out, after she went into it without birth control.

<snip>

Gentlemen:

notice here the childish spite and hatred she displays towards men who
rightly criticizes women's despicable behavior;  the indifferent,
mocking, spiteful tone of this American woman as she responds to some
very legitimate concerns of men - *YOU* men.

Does this response give you a hint as to whether women are capable of
self-reflection?  Of thoughtful consideration of men's needs and
concerns?

For my part, I believe her response confirms the inability and
unwillingness of women to show consideration to men's concerns.  But
that's just me.

It also make me wonder why men ever bothered to show any regard,
consideration, or sympathy for women in the first place.

Understand, men:  there is nothing - ABSOLUTELY NOTHING - in it for you
to deign to grant women some "equal" status that she neither deserves
nor is capable of.

When you elevate women to the status of "equal,"  you are at the same
time, in effect, LOWERING yourselves.

And by elevating women, you only encourage them to viciously,
inhumanly, lash out at you men, and to inflict pain cruelly and
heartlessly, in order for them to avoid any responsibility or blame
whatsoever.

That's why it's up to YOU men to take charge - and confront your women,
and tell them what is acceptable behavior, and what is not - BECAUSE
THEY ARE STUPID AND CHILDLIKE IN NEED OF GUIDANCE, AND DON'T KNOW
THEMSELVES UNLESS YOU TELL THEM.
rj - 10 Jun 2006 12:18 GMT
(snip)

>> How about we do it this way:
>> Men worry about controlling their dicks, and where they make semen
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>> rights after you left a deposit, as it is for a woman to complain that
>> he didn'tpull it out, after she went into it without birth control.

...ahem

Don't tease the trolls, Kitty.

<grin>

Allow me....

><snip>
>
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
>THEY ARE STUPID AND CHILDLIKE IN NEED OF GUIDANCE, AND DON'T KNOW
>THEMSELVES UNLESS YOU TELL THEM.

Having a wee bit of trouble getting laid, are you?

rj
John Smith - 11 Jun 2006 00:48 GMT
> Having a wee bit of trouble getting laid, are you?
>
> rj

Hey, f-ing numb-nuts who granted you a degree in Psychology? Go back to your
trailer park and hump your hot mama ;-), but please use birth control, we
don't want another dumb-as-mollases bubba like you in this world.
rj - 11 Jun 2006 01:06 GMT
sigh...

Have a bit of jet lag here and can't sleep.

>> Having a wee bit of trouble getting laid, are you?
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>trailer park and hump your hot mama ;-), but please use birth control, we
>don't want another dumb-as-mollases bubba like you in this world.

Aha!  It seems that you've got the same problem... don't you Johnny!

rj

<grin>

Well, this *does* pass the time...
siskiyou_sam@yahoo.com - 10 Jun 2006 13:16 GMT
> Troy wrote:

Blah, blah, blah...same old sh.t...

Jeezus f.cking Christ on a stick - will you crybaby whack-jobs from
soc.men ever shut the f.ck up?

Sam
Troy - 11 Jun 2006 03:27 GMT
> > Troy wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Sam

No, you piece of sh.t.  I think you know very well what a thoroughly
debased, inhuman character you are.   If this is the way you respond to
thoughtful, reasoned criticism, then you are a disgusting,
reprehensible "male" without value or character.

It's men like you who protect and defend worthless women who destroy
and inflict pain.   Who react with the same hostility and shaming
techniques as the women.

And it is men like you whom we will have to take on if we are to
correct the problem.

You have made the choice to side with these women, and those men who
follow you will eventually pay for their stupidity - as you yourself
surely will.

The abuse, the injustice, the disrespect with which we are treated as
of RIGHT NOW make it completely unacceptable and dishonorable for
anyone to deny what is happening.

You have no integrity and no honor, you vile, disgusting piece of sh.t.
There is NO WAY you could love or respect these women... not the way
women treat men.  You just want the pussy.  If you are refusing to
listen to the truth, it is because you know it is true in the back of
your mind. We are not telling you something you don't know - that is
obvious.

Manginas like you are f.cking worthless - a traitor worse than an
enemy.
Kitty - 11 Jun 2006 05:26 GMT
>> > Troy wrote:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
>Manginas like you are f.cking worthless - a traitor worse than an
>enemy.

Whining lashing out doesn't become you.
Troy - 11 Jun 2006 05:52 GMT
> >> > Troy wrote:
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 36 lines]
>
> Whining lashing out doesn't become you.

That's right - keep showing off your evil.  Understand:  you are fully
aware of what you are doing right now.  You cannot plead ignorance.
And the time will eventually come when you and so many others like you
will have to answer for your despicable evil.   Women lack humanity,
which is why they are the enemy of men today.

But it's nice to hear you implicitly acknowledge that whining and
lashing out are traits of the inferior sex, i.e., women.  An
inferiority that lies at the heart of your low self-esteem and hatred
of men for being what you can never be.
Kitty - 11 Jun 2006 08:07 GMT
>> >> > Troy wrote:
>> >>
[quoted text clipped - 42 lines]
>will have to answer for your despicable evil.   Women lack humanity,
>which is why they are the enemy of men today.

Oh,okay.
If I was friends with the likes of you, I'd have to shoot myself.

>But it's nice to hear you implicitly acknowledge that whining and
>lashing out are traits of the inferior sex, i.e., women.  An
>inferiority that lies at the heart of your low self-esteem and hatred
>of men for being what you can never be.

For a little mouth breather like you, that's pretty funny.
Troy - 11 Jun 2006 19:55 GMT
> >> >> > Troy wrote:
> >> >>
[quoted text clipped - 45 lines]
> Oh,okay.
> If I was friends with the likes of you, I'd have to shoot myself.

Which would be of no loss to men whatsoever.

> >But it's nice to hear you implicitly acknowledge that whining and
> >lashing out are traits of the inferior sex, i.e., women.  An
> >inferiority that lies at the heart of your low self-esteem and hatred
> >of men for being what you can never be.
>
> For a little mouth breather like you, that's pretty funny.

Yes, it's funny because it happens to be true.  Hitting a raw nerve in
women like that tends to provoke laughter.
siskiyou_sam@yahoo.com - 11 Jun 2006 16:47 GMT
> > >> > Troy wrote:
> > >>
[quoted text clipped - 42 lines]
> will have to answer for your despicable evil.   Women lack humanity,
> which is why they are the enemy of men today.

Stop using "men" in the collective - you don't speak for me! And who
are they going to answer to; a bunch of twerpy gender-nazis who are
pissed off because they can't get laid? That's a f.cking laugh!
Sam
Troy - 11 Jun 2006 19:07 GMT
> > > >> > Troy wrote:
> > > >>
[quoted text clipped - 47 lines]
> pissed off because they can't get laid? That's a f.cking laugh!
> Sam

Just because I use "men" in the collective doesn't mean I have to
include you.  The issues and problems I talk about touch on men
collectively - whether you yourself are actually affected or not.   So
you f.ck off, and stop misleading the guys here that there is no
problem involving women - *because there most definitely is.*

And anyway, it would be a stretch to call you a "man" given your
behavior and attitude here.  Rather, you're lower than dog sh.t - a
stupid, vile police thug who will not only deny the truth, but openly,
and with deliberate malice, attack those who speak righteously against
what is wrong.  You would sell your principles and honor just for
worthless pussy.  You f.cking, evil mangina.
siskiyou_sam@yahoo.com - 11 Jun 2006 22:39 GMT
> > > > >> > Troy wrote:
> > > > >>
[quoted text clipped - 53 lines]
> you f.ck off, and stop misleading the guys here that there is no
> problem involving women - *because there most definitely is.*

Correction - YOU have a problem with women. And thus those problems YOU
have, probably due to something ineffectual in YOU, are magnified in
your hate-addled mind. They are not shared by the greater number of
men.

> And anyway, it would be a stretch to call you a "man" given your
> behavior and attitude here.

Oh f.ck you! You've never seen my behavior, just my written disgust
with your constant whining.

> Rather, you're lower than dog sh.t - a
> stupid, vile police thug who will not only deny the truth, but openly,
> and with deliberate malice, attack those who speak righteously against
> what is wrong.

You really need to see a shrink.

> You would sell your principles and honor just for
> worthless pussy.  You f.cking, evil mangina.

Bwahahahaha!!! What a f.cking moron! You do not have the slightest
capacity to even begin to understand my "principles".
Ultimately, you are a liar. You lie most convincingly to yourself.
Your "problems" are your own damned fault!

Sam
Troy - 11 Jun 2006 23:25 GMT
> > > > > >> > Troy wrote:
> > > > > >>
[quoted text clipped - 58 lines]
> your hate-addled mind. They are not shared by the greater number of
> men.

Of course I have a "problem" with women:  the women are terrible, and
they show poor character, manners, and are destructive and malicious
towards men.  And it's not just me.  Just because you happen not to
have one, don't conclude that therefore there is no problem.

But I think *you know goddamn well* there is one, and it has been
explained clearly over and over again.  You would sell your soul just
to get into a worthless chick's pants, you sick, miserable, dishonest
son of a bitch.  It's absolutely appropriate to hate what is hateful
when one has good, sound reasons - and American women are indeed
hateful.

> > And anyway, it would be a stretch to call you a "man" given your
> > behavior and attitude here.
>
> Oh f.ck you! You've never seen my behavior, just my written disgust
> with your constant whining.

I've seen your attitude and the response you've given on this group.
That's enough for me to stand by what I've said about you.

> > Rather, you're lower than dog sh.t - a
> > stupid, vile police thug who will not only deny the truth, but openly,
> > and with deliberate malice, attack those who speak righteously against
> > what is wrong.
>
> You really need to see a shrink.

What I said apparently hits close to home, you f.cking thug.

> > You would sell your principles and honor just for
> > worthless pussy.  You f.cking, evil mangina.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Ultimately, you are a liar. You lie most convincingly to yourself.
> Your "problems" are your own damned fault!

You have no principles.  You're a vile, dishonest, miserable, thuggish
mangina without a shred of integrity or honor.  You are exactly as I've
described you, and it's quite understandable you're pissed I called you
on it.  You will not only deny the truth, but openly, and with
deliberate malice, viciously attack those who speak righteously against
what is wrong.    Yeah, the truth hurts, doesn't it.
siskiyou_sam@yahoo.com - 13 Jun 2006 00:02 GMT
> > Correction - YOU have a problem with women. And thus those problems YOU
> > have, probably due to something ineffectual in YOU, are magnified in
> > your hate-addled mind. They are not shared by the greater number of
> > men.

Whineboy continues -

> Of course I have a "problem" with women:  the women are terrible, and
> they show poor character, manners, and are destructive and malicious
> towards men.

They've never done so to me. And it appears I am not alone. Therefore -
YOU must be the cause of all your problems with women.

> And it's not just me.  Just because you happen not to
> have one, don't conclude that therefore there is no problem.

I know a lot of men, married, divorced, in relationships, confirmed
bachelors - sounds to me like YOU have a problem. Most all of the guys
I know rather like women.

Wait, are you gay?

> But I think *you know goddamn well* there is one, and it has been
> explained clearly over and over again.

No - a few whiners to not a problem make.

> You would sell your soul just
> to get into a worthless chick's pants, you sick, miserable, dishonest
> son of a bitch.  It's absolutely appropriate to hate what is hateful
> when one has good, sound reasons - and American women are indeed
> hateful.

Not to most MEN - hetero-sexual men. Now weird little f.cks like you,
who knows? I'm beginning to think you're a homo.

> > > And anyway, it would be a stretch to call you a "man" given your
> > > behavior and attitude here.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> I've seen your attitude and the response you've given on this group.
> That's enough for me to stand by what I've said about you.

Well, seeing that you've been pretty much wrong about everything so far
- I'd say your opinion doesn't mean sh.t.

> > > Rather, you're lower than dog sh.t - a
> > > stupid, vile police thug who will not only deny the truth, but openly,
> > > and with deliberate malice, attack those who speak righteously against
> > > what is wrong.
> >
> > You really need to see a shrink.

> What I said apparently hits close to home, you f.cking thug.

Me? A "thug?" Bwahahahaha!!! You stupid little sh.t, I'm a grandfather!
I've never been arrested in my life. I own a home, pay my taxes, and
spend as much time fishing as I can.
Now, I'm certain I could still whip your a.s because real men don't
spend all their time on the internet whining like crybabies about
women.

> > > You would sell your principles and honor just for
> > > worthless pussy.  You f.cking, evil mangina.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> You have no principles.  You're a vile, dishonest, miserable, thuggish
> mangina without a shred of integrity or honor.

ROTFLMAO! You're having quite a little gay tantrum aren't you?

> You are exactly as I've
> described you, and it's quite understandable you're pissed I called you
> on it.

I'm not pissed off - I'm laughing at you! You're a f.cking idiot and I
think the other readers know it too.

> You will not only deny the truth, but openly, and with
> deliberate malice, viciously attack those who speak righteously against
> what is wrong.    Yeah, the truth hurts, doesn't it.

Was that a question you hysterical little twit? Look, I can tell you're
gay and freaked out about it. It took me awhile to figure out what a
"mangina" was. That's gay talk.
So why don't you go suck some cock and mellow out?
(Not mine though - I'm straight.)

Sam
Troy - 13 Jun 2006 18:32 GMT
> > > Correction - YOU have a problem with women. And thus those problems YOU
> > > have, probably due to something ineffectual in YOU, are magnified in
> > > your hate-addled mind. They are not shared by the greater number of
> > > men.
>
> Whineboy continues -

Fuckface thug continues.

> > Of course I have a "problem" with women:  the women are terrible, and
> > they show poor character, manners, and are destructive and malicious
> > towards men.
>
> They've never done so to me. And it appears I am not alone. Therefore -
> YOU must be the cause of all your problems with women.

You seem very intent on denying there is a problem - and in the most
vicious way possible.  You know very well there is a problem or you
wouldn't behave the way you are.

> > And it's not just me.  Just because you happen not to
> > have one, don't conclude that therefore there is no problem.
>
> I know a lot of men, married, divorced, in relationships, confirmed
> bachelors - sounds to me like YOU have a problem. Most all of the guys
> I know rather like women.

And I know lots of similar men who observe and experience the problem
I'm talking about.  You stupid, ignorant pig - you know very well you
can just open your eyes and ears to what's going on.  But not only do
you choose not to, you react in the most vile, disgusting manner in
order to silence and ridicule those speaking the truth. What a
loathsome, despicable piece of sh.t you are.

> Wait, are you gay?

Oh, so now enters the "gay" card LOL:  what a joke you are.  You have
to come up with something more original than that, because tired old
tactic of shaming and de-humanizing men from sick stupid f.cks like you
won't suppress the truth from being spread.

> > But I think *you know goddamn well* there is one, and it has been
> > explained clearly over and over again.
>
> No - a few whiners to not a problem make.

f.cking pigfaced liar.  You are not going to suppress the truth.  There
IS a problem out there in society of which women are at the middle of
all this, and more and more men are realizing this.

> > You would sell your soul just
> > to get into a worthless chick's pants, you sick, miserable, dishonest
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> Not to most MEN - hetero-sexual men. Now weird little f.cks like you,
> who knows? I'm beginning to think you're a homo.

What the *f.ck* are you talking about?!   You don't throw ethical
standards out the window and allow yourself as a man to be
disrespected, hated, and even destroyed by women/wives just because you
happen to be heterosexual!  You DUMBFUCK!!!  Christ, what an
unbelievable piece of sh.t you are.  And what I said about you lacking
principles, honesty, and brains is only reinforced by your idiotic,
mindless responses.

> > > > And anyway, it would be a stretch to call you a "man" given your
> > > > behavior and attitude here.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Well, seeing that you've been pretty much wrong about everything so far
> - I'd say your opinion doesn't mean sh.t.

You KNOW very well I have valid reasons for saying what I'm saying.
There is something very disturbed about your kind, to keep denying what
is very obvious in such a vicious, despicable manner.

> > > > Rather, you're lower than dog sh.t - a
> > > > stupid, vile police thug who will not only deny the truth, but openly,
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Me? A "thug?" Bwahahahaha!!! You stupid little sh.t, I'm a grandfather!

Big f.cking deal - you're still a thug.  A lowly thug who shows off his
complete lack of  principles, intelligence, and dignity.  Like I said,
lower than dog sh.t.

> I've never been arrested in my life. I own a home, pay my taxes, and
> spend as much time fishing as I can.
> Now, I'm certain I could still whip your a.s because real men don't
> spend all their time on the internet whining like crybabies about
> women.

> > > > You would sell your principles and honor just for
> > > > worthless pussy.  You f.cking, evil mangina.
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>
> ROTFLMAO! You're having quite a little gay tantrum aren't you?

LOL so calling you what you are is a "gay tantrum."  Oh gee, that makes
lots of sense LOL. This must be your default position whenever someone
holds a mirror up to you. But hey, I can understand you going apeshit
like that.  I'd hate myself too if I was like what I described you.

> > You are exactly as I've
> > described you, and it's quite understandable you're pissed I called you
> > on it.
>
> I'm not pissed off -

Of course you're pissed off.

> I'm laughing at you! You're a f.cking idiot and I
> think the other readers know it too.

I'm laughing at YOU, fuckface - all you have shown so far is a capacity
to hurl vile insults, and deny the truth.

> > You will not only deny the truth, but openly, and with
> > deliberate malice, viciously attack those who speak righteously against
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> So why don't you go suck some cock and mellow out?
> (Not mine though - I'm straight.)

LOL Using the tiresome, ineffective "gay" card is all you can do to
face up to the ugly truth about you.  Like I said, the truth hurts.
And what's true about you is very ugly, disturbing, and hateful.  A
sociopathic, piece of sh.t white trash.  You and American women are
made for each other - you both exhibit the same low qualities.
Kitty - 12 Jun 2006 02:12 GMT
>> > > > >> > Troy wrote:
>> > > > >>
[quoted text clipped - 79 lines]
>Ultimately, you are a liar. You lie most convincingly to yourself.
>Your "problems" are your own damned fault!

I think Troy is an equal opportunity hater.
Someone must have done something bad to him when he was little. Maybe
his evil momma dropped him on his head too many times?
Nearl J Icarus - 11 Jun 2006 04:24 GMT
crackin_silver@mail.com says...

>time, in effect, LOWERING yourselves.

And ghod knows you can get much lower. I bet you have to look to a snake in a
wagon rut.
JBug - 11 Jun 2006 05:21 GMT
> It also make me wonder why men ever bothered to show any regard,
> consideration, or sympathy for women in the first place.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> THEY ARE STUPID AND CHILDLIKE IN NEED OF GUIDANCE, AND DON'T KNOW
> THEMSELVES UNLESS YOU TELL THEM.

Wow! What made you feel this way towards the opposite sex? Are you
referring to American Women or Women in general? I sense hatred and
resentment towards women.
Troy - 11 Jun 2006 06:06 GMT
> > It also make me wonder why men ever bothered to show any regard,
> > consideration, or sympathy for women in the first place.
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Wow! What made you feel this way towards the opposite sex?

If you really have to ask this question, then you are out to lunch. But
frankly, I don't trust that you are asking this question sincerely.  It
is not hard to look around you, or to find out the answer from others
going thru the same thing.

> Are you
> referring to American Women or Women in general? I sense hatred and
> resentment towards women.

Of course I hate American women.   They are indeed supremely deserving
of hatred, as is anything that is foul and despicable.  And your point
is what exactly?   They hate us, and are willfully evil and destructive
towards men.  It is very insincere of you to try to checkmate me with
this "you hate women" line, which is obviously a stupid shaming tactic
of yours.  And it is utterly ridiculous and contemptible to imply that
women are somehow deserving of better  - *because they are most
definitely not.*
Casey - 11 Jun 2006 07:02 GMT
Troy said

> > Are you
> > referring to American Women or Women in general? I sense hatred and
> > resentment towards women.
>
> Of course I hate American women.  

Then please just leave the country and shut the hell up.   That way
there is one less loser between me and the American women I lust for.

> They are indeed supremely deserving
> of hatred, as is anything that is foul and despicable.  And your point
> is what exactly?   They hate us, and are willfully evil and destructive
> towards men.  It is very insincere of you to try to checkmate me with
> this "you hate women" line, which is obviously a stupid shaming tactic
> of yours.  

Accurate = stupid shaming tactic?

As far as checkmate goes ...

> And it is utterly ridiculous and contemptible to imply that
> women are somehow deserving of better  - *because they are most
> definitely not.*

Yep, checkmate.  You just proved JBug to be correct.

Casey
Troy - 11 Jun 2006 19:20 GMT
> Troy said
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Then please just leave the country and shut the hell up.   That way
> there is one less loser between me and the American women I lust for.

f.ck YOU, you pussified male freak.  The hatred and evil of American
women is a point that needs to be driven home until more men on this
group and elsewhere become aware about what these women have done to
destroy families and lives today.  You don't even challenge the reasons
I have for hating American women - in fact, you implicitly acknowledge
that American women might very well be hateful, and that people
everywhere might have legitimate and justifiable reasons to hate
American women.  But you're fine with the fact that women in America
are such debased, awful human beings.  Just so that you can get pussy.
FUCKface.

There are many men on this group as well as their children have
suffered and are currently suffering, you stupid son of a bitch.  Or
are stuck in miserable marriages because the pro-female laws screw over
husbands.  On a whim, a stupid woman can take his husband to the
cleaners, destroy his livelihood, take away his kids, and even send him
to prison.  You f.cking mangina.  And you say leave the country - just
so that there's less competition for pussy?  LOL  You low, dishonorable
worm.

I think it's pretty clear that if American women depend on shitty,
worthless manginas like you to protect them, then not only does that
reflect badly on who they are, but it's yet another clear indication of
the grim fate that lies ahead for American women (and western women
generally) as a group.  You are not going to suppress the truth, no
matter how much you try to sell out your soul.

> > They are indeed supremely deserving
> > of hatred, as is anything that is foul and despicable.  And your point
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>
> Casey
Kitty - 11 Jun 2006 21:02 GMT
>> Troy said
>>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
>f.ck YOU, you pussified male freak.

Can't control your temper, ay?
Troy - 11 Jun 2006 22:30 GMT
> >> Troy said
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Can't control your temper, ay?

You're a very mentally unstable, sociopathic woman.  You are also a
deliberately malicious, evil woman, acting out of envious (and
suicidal) hatred and spite because of your natural inferiorty as the
female sex.
siskiyou_sam@yahoo.com - 11 Jun 2006 22:51 GMT
> >> Troy said
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Can't control your temper, ay?

He's pitching a bit of a little tantrum, isn't he?
LMAO!

Sam
_mL_ - 11 Jun 2006 22:58 GMT
>> >> Troy said
>> >>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>He's pitching a bit of a little tantrum, isn't he?
>LMAO!

and he's probably pitching a tent reading his own posts (and probably a very
small tent at that).
Use killfiles if you can, it makes for much more intelligent reading and
interacting here.
Kitty - 12 Jun 2006 02:13 GMT
>>> >> Troy said
>>> >>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>and he's probably pitching a tent reading his own posts (and probably a very
>small tent at that).

*diet coke spew*
OMG, ML, you're the queen of funny, I swear!
Kitty - 12 Jun 2006 01:32 GMT
>> >> Troy said
>> >>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>He's pitching a bit of a little tantrum, isn't he?
>LMAO!

Like an angry 5-year old when he can't have candy before dinner.
siskiyou_sam@yahoo.com - 13 Jun 2006 00:05 GMT
> >> >> Troy said
> >> >>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> Like an angry 5-year old when he can't have candy before dinner.

You can just see Troy, thumb in mouth, stamping his little gay foot.

Sam
Kitty - 13 Jun 2006 03:56 GMT
>> >> >> Troy said
>> >> >>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
>You can just see Troy, thumb in mouth, stamping his little gay foot.

Pretty soon he'll throw himself on the floor and start punching the
air with all fours.
siskiyou_sam@yahoo.com - 11 Jun 2006 22:45 GMT
> I think it's pretty clear that if American women depend on shitty,
> worthless manginas like you to protect them,

Protect them from what? YOU!
And what YOU going to do, running around screaming like a fool?

Sam
Troy - 11 Jun 2006 23:42 GMT
> > I think it's pretty clear that if American women depend on shitty,
> > worthless manginas like you to protect them,
>
> Protect them from what? YOU!

Hey, nice to hear you acknowledge (albeit implicitly) that you're a
shitty, worthless mangina - so now we know where we stand.

And we know what kind of "male" a woman depends on to act as the
"muscle":  a low, miserable, gutter dirtbag like you with no
self-esteem.  They must feel so gratified and pleased knowing that they
can leverage a f.cked up, mentally disturbed fool like you to protect
them from the consequences of their terrible, evil behavior.

> And what YOU going to do, running around screaming like a fool?

Keep telling the truth about women in America and the west.  The two
greatest enemies of American women today are: 1) time, and 2) the
truth.
A. - 11 Jun 2006 22:49 GMT
> > Troy said
> >
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> f.ck YOU, you pussified male freak.

You need to learn some math - or give up your form of persuasion
based on false use of figures.  Or, tell the truth about your political
leanings.

Let's see.  Half the population is women, and you hate them.

You also hate men who like women.  I'm guessing that's at least
half of the remainder.

You don't mention it, but there aren't many Asian men, Filipinos. Jews,
or Blacks over at soc.men or in your "well-reasoned' group of thinking
pro-male men.  There are an increasing number of Hispanics, though,
especially Mexicans and Mexican-Americans.  Anyway, you lost
another 20% of your possible total to a variety of demographic factors
including ethnicity and sexuality.

So you "represent" about 15%-20% of the nation's adult population.
At best (let's not included people who are severely retarded, in comas,
over the age of 90 - for various reasons, they are really not going to
help you with your historic task of reversing the power swing in
the direction of women).

How does such a tiny minority reach out and ally itself with the
political interests necessary to get its way?  Hmm, well, that doesn't
at all seem to be a goal of the movement.  Like the white supremacist
movement, which it strongly resembles, it isn't about majority rule -
obviously.

It's about the "Triumph of Reason" over the stupid ones.  So far,
so good.  And yet - you probably could reason your way out of
Descartes' first meditation - much less Kant's Critique of Pure
Reason.  You couldn't give an orderly account of what it means
to reason (of course, I can't either - I am merely a female - and
even if I COULD give an account, I would not - not to you, nor
should you accept one from me, your enemy).

The hatred and evil of American
> women is a point that needs to be driven home until more men on this
> group and elsewhere become aware about what these women have done to
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> are such debased, awful human beings.  Just so that you can get pussy.
> FUCKface.

Can you state in what way men in America are a treasure-trove
of moral direction?

Most church-goers are women, most charities are run by women,
women outnumber men 5 to 1 in staffing volunteer agencies such
as soup kitchens, food banks, volunteering at senior centers,
teaching the illiterate to read.  Women are also more philanthropic
than men.  They also live longer.

Women have fewer sexual partners in a lifetime than men, and
are less like to contract sexual diseases, kill someone, or violently
harm someone.

So now I'm forgetting - why are men supposed to hate women
again?  Because women have something men want?  Not according
to you.  I'm still mystified, Troy (and you know we've talked before),
as to what exactly you want from women or why you associate
with them at all.  If it's all so obvious, then allow others to come to
your revelations on their own; otherwise, state something (anything)
that's informational.

> There are many men on this group as well as their children have
> suffered and are currently suffering, you stupid son of a bitch.

Gee, now you're frothing at the mouth at your own fellow males.
So you can't possibly want to change people or want alliances -
you like frothing.  That can't be one of the characteristics you want
to ENCOURAGE is it?

Men are indeed suffering, and there are changes that need to be
made in the law (I've mentioned several myself, just in the month
I've been here).  But you actually are doing more to keep that from
happening with your rabid frothing than you realize.  The fellow
you're posting to is not, Troy, going to be running off to fraternize
with you and learn from you and your ilk.

 Or
> are stuck in miserable marriages because the pro-female laws screw over
> husbands.  On a whim, a stupid woman can take his husband to the
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> generally) as a group.  You are not going to suppress the truth, no
> matter how much you try to sell out your soul.

Western women, in general, as you know are doing quite well.
We choose to work less than men (as groups) and thereby make
less money.  There is no wage differential in America beyond that,
according to what I read.  Women work fewer hours, manage to
survive, don't buy the toys that men do, and live longer.

We own property in greater numbers, without marrying at all!
The trend toward avoiding men and marriage altogether gathered
steam even before suffrage - but it has really picked up,
hasn't it?

22% of girls graduating high school this year said they plan
never to marry, up from 5% saying the same thing in 1950.
They don't want to, and they won't have to  - but are you happy?
Do you rejoice that your own agenda apparently seems to
be working (women aren't marrying the poor trapped men)?

Men need do only one thing nowadays, and that's to support
their biological children.  Is that such a big imposition?

Don't get married, keep a hat on it, and you're good.  No worries.

And now, there are several people saying what I say when we
run into each other:

Run away!  Avoid those women!  Don't come near us!

Situation defused, red alert goes to blue, right?

A.
Troy - 11 Jun 2006 23:56 GMT
> Run away!  Avoid those women!  Don't come near us!
>
> Situation defused, red alert goes to blue, right?
>
> A.

No - that would conveniently (for you) leave unaddressed some very
major problems and issues in society involving women.  Western women
today are not only a big problem in society; they  are the enemy of
men.  The truth about western women, and feminist-inspired policies
that have destroyed men's lives (not to mention children's and even
women's), must and will be exposed to the greatest audience of men
possible.
JBug - 12 Jun 2006 17:52 GMT
Perhaps you and all those men who have suffered have ended up with the
wrong type. Look around you and i don't only mean in America, i mean
the whole world and see its not only the men who are suffering. Women
too are going through the same sh.t and its all due to the wrong
choices both men and women have been making. You find a person whose
not your type and does not want what you want you will definitely end
up being miserable and unhappy. Evil and destructive don't only apply
to women but also to men! Ok fine you hate american women. Thats your
deal but it does not necessarily mean all american women are evil and
bad.

You should control that temper of yours because its that temper that
will lead one to be evil and destructive.

> > Troy said
> >
[quoted text clipped - 52 lines]
> >
> > Casey
Troy - 15 Jun 2006 20:23 GMT
> Perhaps you and all those men who have suffered have ended up with the
> wrong type. Look around you and i don't only mean in America, i mean
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> You should control that temper of yours because its that temper that
> will lead one to be evil and destructive.

f.ck you, dickface.  Your bullshit does not disguise the truth about
you - namely, that you're a dishonest, insincere fool who wishes to
selectively (and deliberately) deny some very disturbing truths
pertaining to women.  All you achieve in the end is stupidly defending
women who are at the center of a very real problem, by chalking it up
to some idiotic bullshit like "not finding the right type."   So f.ck
you and your dishonest, stupid, pussified bullshit.
JBug - 16 Jun 2006 19:43 GMT
That was so funny! I can't stop laughing! If you are wondering whats so
funny then i must tell you its your anger and the choice of words. I
don't believe my face does look like a dick! Hahaha! Thats even more
funny to imagine a face that looks like a dick!

> > Perhaps you and all those men who have suffered have ended up with the
> > wrong type. Look around you and i don't only mean in America, i mean
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> to some idiotic bullshit like "not finding the right type."   So f.ck
> you and your dishonest, stupid, pussified bullshit.
Troy - 16 Jun 2006 20:06 GMT
> That was so funny! I can't stop laughing! If you are wondering whats so
> funny then i must tell you its your anger and the choice of words.

I know it was funny - the truth is usually very funny.  Especially when
it's exposed raw like in your case.

What's even more funny is your laughable attempt to completely avoid
the main point of my response to you.  And even funnier than that is
the hilarious way you try (unsuccessfully) to deny you do not possess
the exact same anger as I do.  Which of course you do, and which
motivates you to respond against me.

> I
> don't believe my face does look like a dick!
> Hahaha! Thats even more
> funny to imagine a face that looks like a dick!

I do.  It's quite easy to imagine yours looking as such.  Look in the
mirror sometime, and you'll know what I mean, dickface.

> > > Perhaps you and all those men who have suffered have ended up with the
> > > wrong type. Look around you and i don't only mean in America, i mean
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> > to some idiotic bullshit like "not finding the right type."   So f.ck
> > you and your dishonest, stupid, pussified bullshit.
Nearl J Icarus - 17 Jun 2006 05:15 GMT
crackin_silver@mail.com says...

>the exact same anger as I do.  Which of course you do, and which
>motivates you to respond against me.

Same anger, sure. The anger you feel towards women is the same anger we feel
towards stupid people. You will promise to stay out of the gene pool, eh?
JBug - 17 Jun 2006 10:18 GMT
> > That was so funny! I can't stop laughing! If you are wondering whats so
> > funny then i must tell you its your anger and the choice of words.

Well you still do make me laugh and are providing me with such great
entertainment reading them. I guess am just amusing myself at your
expense! I think you did not understand me or perhaps i was not that
clear. Its not your topic thats funny its the words and offensive
language that you use that i find it funny and amusing and that is why
am having fun reading it.

> I know it was funny - the truth is usually very funny.  Especially when
> it's exposed raw like in your case.

> What's even more funny is your laughable attempt to completely avoid
> the main point of my response to you.  And even funnier than that is
> the hilarious way you try (unsuccessfully) to deny you do not possess
> the exact same anger as I do.  Which of course you do, and which
> motivates you to respond against me.

> > I
> > don't believe my face does look like a dick!
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Well let me tell you something those who do try to see themselves through the mirror are the ones who get the wrong image of themselves. Beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder not in the mirror. Perhaps that what you need to understand when it comes to women!

I feel sorry for you that you feel so much hatred towards women
especially those you consider "evil and destructive"! But let me ask
you a question! Do you think you can change all that? What are you
trying to achieve? No matter how much you try to express your anger and
concern towards those women you consider evil and destructive there is
no way you can achieve whatever it is that you wanna achieve. Those
women will continue being who they are. So instead of wasting your time
and energy complaining and hating these women do something thats
positive rather than taking a negative approach.

With hate in your heart you will never achieve anything because hatred
only brings destruction.

You can go ahead an attack me with your words and i can assure you its
not affecting me at all. The more you bite back with anger the more i
feel sorry for you. Because its a pity that you are not able to see the
good in women but so quick to see the bad! So my point here is that
your anger at some women is not going to do you good!

> > > > Perhaps you and all those men who have suffered have ended up with the
> > > > wrong type. Look around you and i don't only mean in America, i mean
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> > > to some idiotic bullshit like "not finding the right type."   So f.ck
> > > you and your dishonest, stupid, pussified bullshit.
Troy - 21 Jun 2006 09:49 GMT
> > > That was so funny! I can't stop laughing! If you are wondering whats so
> > > funny then i must tell you its your anger and the choice of words.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> language that you use that i find it funny and amusing and that is why
> am having fun reading it.

It's very disturbing when someone expresses "amusement" and "fun" in
the way you do.  It indicates a disturbed, psychopathic personality.
My only technical mistake was in believing at first you were a "male."

Whatever you say about what I wrote, it has obviously aroused in you
deep, psychotic rage, malice, and hatred that all men should take note
of.

> > I know it was funny - the truth is usually very funny.  Especially when
> > it's exposed raw like in your case.
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> and energy complaining and hating these women do something thats
> positive rather than taking a negative approach.

Being a woman yourself, you cannot be expected to discuss this subject
seriously or capably.  You foolishly express a reckless, unfounded
confidence that the evil, destructive behavior of women will continue
with impunity.  It is this narrowly self-absorbed attitude from women
that will lead to their eventual undoing.

> With hate in your heart you will never achieve anything because hatred
> only brings destruction.

Hatred of what is justifiably hateful leads to constructive ideas,
action, and solutions.  The hatred women harbor in THEIR hearts (i.e.,
the kind you display right now) towards men is merely vindictiveness
and malice.  It is THIS hatred that will never achieve anything, and
which will bring destruction to western women.

> You can go ahead an attack me with your words and i can assure you its
> not affecting me at all. The more you bite back with anger the more i
> feel sorry for you. Because its a pity that you are not able to see the
> good in women but so quick to see the bad! So my point here is that
> your anger at some women is not going to do you good!

Obviously my words are affecting you - they've affected you enough to
keep responding with persistent, unspeakable evil.  I most certainly
did get a rise out of you.  Your dishonest, insincere claims of pity
and "feeling sorry" do a poor job hiding the very real feelings of
virulent hatred, malice, and spiteful anger you unabashedly display
here.

And that is why women must be confronted with male anger, the kind of
righteous, justifiable anger that rebukes and punishes women for their
childishly evil, destructive behavior.  By acting on that anger, men
accomplish the most good, lifting western women from the low, debased
condition they (you) are in now.
Dave in Lake Villa - 27 Jun 2006 13:51 GMT
'Perhaps you and all those men who have suffered have ended up with the
wrong type. Look around you and i don't only mean in America, i mean the
whole world and see its not only the men who are suffering. Women too
are going through the same sh.t and its all due to the wrong choices
both men and women have been making. You find a person whose not your
type and does not want what you want you will definitely end up being
miserable and unhappy. '

REPLY:  The book i wish i would have read BEFORE getting married/
divorced ,  is Dr. Warrens 'Finding The Love of Your Life' ... a best
seller . In it , he describes a totally objective scientific plan toward
getting married and the 7 deadly mistakes people make when choosing a
marital partner. Id like to see a book like this taught in high school
so people are more informed on making better choices.  At a divorce rate
of 50% plus for first timers and 76% for second timers...its something
that is very necessary in our country.
JBug - 28 Jun 2006 13:24 GMT
> 'Perhaps you and all those men who have suffered have ended up with the
> wrong type. Look around you and i don't only mean in America, i mean the
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> of 50% plus for first timers and 76% for second timers...its something
> that is very necessary in our country.

Yeah a bk would certainly help but does it really work? I don't think
it is difficult to find the right person as long as you know who and
what type of person you are and what you want in that person you are
looking for. Everyone does make mistakes in life but whats important is
the lesson that these mistakes teach us. Without those mistakes no one
will ever learn and those who do make mistakes and still don't learn
but carry on making those mistakes simply don't use their common sense
or perhaps don't have any. I think the reason why people are not able
to find the right one is because they don't know what love truelly
means and what inner happiness is. So many people are lost in this
materialistic world that they have a complete different definition of
love and happiness.
JBug - 11 Jun 2006 09:54 GMT
> > Wow! What made you feel this way towards the opposite sex?
>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> women are somehow deserving of better  - *because they are most
> definitely not.*

Well i don't know anything about the American women but i do know that
women do not deserve to be treated like sh.t or thought of as something
very low and worthless! Just because a few women are alot worse than
they normally are does not mean that all women are the same. But i am
very much fascinated by your topic and i am not judging you or think
that you are right or wrong or whatever. I just wanna know why so much
anger and so much dislike. Perhaps if i was an american then  i would
have understood but i do know a few american women who are very nice,
matured and sensible and nothing like evil or destructive.

You are talking about women who are evil and destructive but do you
know that there are men who are exactly the same?
Troy - 15 Jun 2006 20:19 GMT
> > > Wow! What made you feel this way towards the opposite sex?
> >
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> You are talking about women who are evil and destructive but do you
> know that there are men who are exactly the same?

Stop shifting the argument away from the real issue, you dishonest
prick.  Of course "not all women are like that."  Of course "there are
men who are exactly the same."  Not only is that not the f.cking point,
it conveniently shifts blame and responsibility away from women,
thereby avoiding focus on a real problem.  So your irrational defense
and protection of women is neither impressive nor noble.  And this has
nothing to do with "treating women like sh.t" and you goddamn well know
it.  Your post still comes off as very insincere and not believable one
bit, not only considering what I've already said here, but also
considering what you can already figure out on your own by experience
and observation.

Your personal interaction with the handful of women does not refute the
experiences of many others who experienced differently.  Neither does
it refute the deep, and widespread systemic problems in society as a
result of loosened controls on women's behavior, which has also
rewarded and condoned female bad behavior while punishing men who seek
to stop it.  If you want to know more about this problem, then stop
hanging out at this losers lounge, and start doing the legwork
yourself.
calgarydivorce@yahoo.ca - 22 Jun 2006 04:30 GMT
f.ck OFF AND POST ON MY SITES:

http://divorcefocus.com/news.php

http://www.ottawadivorce.com/forum/

http://divorced-dad-central.com/index.php

http://mediationcalgary.com/

http://www.divorcecalgary.com/
Kitty - 11 Jun 2006 05:24 GMT
>> > This anti-male bias raises its ugly head in our reproductive and
>> > domestic-violence laws. Here are but three examples:
[quoted text clipped - 65 lines]
>THEY ARE STUPID AND CHILDLIKE IN NEED OF GUIDANCE, AND DON'T KNOW
>THEMSELVES UNLESS YOU TELL THEM.

Oh, grow up.
Troy - 11 Jun 2006 05:53 GMT
> >> > This anti-male bias raises its ugly head in our reproductive and
> >> > domestic-violence laws. Here are but three examples:
[quoted text clipped - 67 lines]
>
> Oh, grow up.

No, it is you who has to grow up.  But then women are basically
children in adult bodies.

Your childish response just now - hate-filled, and consciously
malicious and indifferent towards the claims of men - is an example of
the willful evil that resides in the souls of women.

There is no reason why any man should show any consideration or
sympathy to the claims of women, as they have done in the past.
Western women are destined to pay a severe price.
Casey - 11 Jun 2006 06:56 GMT
Troy said

> Western women are destined to pay a severe price.

Only those that have the misfortune to marry someone like you.

Casey
Kitty - 11 Jun 2006 08:13 GMT
>Troy said
>
>> Western women are destined to pay a severe price.
>
>Only those that have the misfortune to marry someone like you.

he'll never get married, he can't get a woman.
I was hoping for some entertainment, but this kid is boring.

What have you been doing with yourself lately?
Casey - 11 Jun 2006 17:26 GMT
Kitty said

> >Troy said
> >
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> What have you been doing with yourself lately?

I've been more than a bit overwhelmed with work - especially the last
week.  We're now at the height of the tourist season here and the real
estate bargain hunters are out in full force.  

I started with clients at 10:00am yesterday and my phone was still
ringing after 9:00p last night.  Looks like I'll be working most of the
day today as well.

I ain't complaining though ... it's been a long dry spell.

Casey
Kitty - 11 Jun 2006 21:04 GMT
>Kitty said
>>
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
>I ain't complaining though ... it's been a long dry spell.

I hear ya, days like that could be exhausting. Hopefully the sound of
cha-chinnnng that follows helps :)
Troy - 11 Jun 2006 19:22 GMT
> Troy said
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Casey

You don't get it, dipshit - I'm out of the picture.

You, OTOH, are a different story.

Because when evil, malicious women are undeservedly protected by
despicable, brainwashed "men" like you, you only increase the
likelihood that these women will ultimately and unavoidably suffer a
high price.
Kitty - 11 Jun 2006 21:05 GMT
>> Troy said
>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>You don't get it, dipshit - I'm out of the picture.

good riddance.
bye.
Troy - 11 Jun 2006 22:38 GMT
> >> Troy said
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> good riddance.
> bye.

Nice to see a side of you that amply demonstrates the female's mental
instability and sociopathic behavior.   A quite natural result of
western women brought up in a free environment without adequate social
controls on their behavior.
_mL_ - 11 Jun 2006 21:56 GMT
>> Troy said
>>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>likelihood that these women will ultimately and unavoidably suffer a
>high price.

You jealous cuz he gets more chicks than you.
Casey - 12 Jun 2006 00:55 GMT
_mL_ said
> >> Troy said
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> You jealous cuz he gets more chicks than you.

Yep, I think that's it.

I'm so brainwashed that I actually enjoy wild sex with those evil,
malicious women.

Poor me ....

Casey

Casey
Barbara Didrichsen - 12 Jun 2006 00:58 GMT
[snip]

>Yep, I think that's it.
>
>I'm so brainwashed that I actually enjoy wild sex with those evil,
>malicious women.
>
>Poor me ....

That's it.  

We're going to have to yank your male ID card away.  And send you back
to (all male) boarding school.

Barb
Kitty - 12 Jun 2006 02:16 GMT
>[snip]
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>We're going to have to yank your male ID card away.  And send you back
>to (all male) boarding school.

Do we tie him up and spank him before or after we take his ID card?
Casey - 12 Jun 2006 04:27 GMT
Barbara Didrichsen said

> [snip]
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> We're going to have to yank your male ID card away.  And send you back
> to (all male) boarding school.

Nooooooooooo - that would be cruel and unusual punishment!

Casey
Rambler - 13 Jun 2006 18:20 GMT
> [snip]
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> We're going to have to yank your male ID card away.  And send you back
> to (all male) boarding school.

Yeah .. but the teachers ... Smaaaaaaa...okinnnnnnnn!

Rambler
Xenos663 - 15 Jun 2006 08:34 GMT
> [snip]
>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Barb

Actually I could study better at a all male school.
The tits of the girls distracted me to much.
Didn't like my female teacher either.
She was talking to much about unrelated items.
Troy - 15 Jun 2006 20:17 GMT
> >> Troy said
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> You jealous cuz he gets more chicks than you.

You jealous cuz you're not a man.
Nearl J Icarus - 16 Jun 2006 07:00 GMT
crackin_silver@mail.com says...

>You jealous cuz you're not a man.

Why would a woman be jealous of that? They can get all the men they want. If
you would use the big head instead of the little one, you might figure that
out.
Troy - 16 Jun 2006 08:22 GMT
> crackin_silver@mail.com says...
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> you would use the big head instead of the little one, you might figure that
> out.

They are jealous because women are by nature inferior to men, yet labor
under the delusion that they are "equal" to men.

"Getting all the men they want" will still not relieve women of their
deep-rooted misery, unhappiness, envious rage, frustration, and
feelings of inadequacy and worthlessness stemming from this disparity
between theory and reality.

If YOU would use the big head instead of the little one, YOU might
figure that out.
Nearl J Icarus - 17 Jun 2006 05:11 GMT
crackin_silver@mail.com says...

>"Getting all the men they want" will still not relieve women of their
>deep-rooted misery, unhappiness, envious rage, frustration, and
>feelings of inadequacy and worthlessness stemming from this disparity
>between theory and reality.

That's true. If all men they get are like you, that would certainly explain
their deep rooted misery.
Troy - 21 Jun 2006 04:31 GMT
> crackin_silver@mail.com says...
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> That's true. If all men they get are like you, that would certainly explain
> their deep rooted misery.

Their deep-rooted misery is explained by their failure as feminine
women, permanently ruined by the women's movement.  Just as yours is
explained by your weakness and failure to live up to the obligation of
being a masculine man.  Whereas I've made myself scarce in their
presense, they've already gotten failed, damaged men like you in
spades, and they're still horribly miserable.
Nearl J Icarus - 21 Jun 2006 08:05 GMT
crackin_silver@mail.com says...

>being a masculine man.  Whereas I've made myself scarce in their
>presense, they've already gotten failed, damaged men like you in
>spades, and they're still horribly miserable.

You've passed the point of belief when you claim that any woman who has gotten
rid of you is still miserable. Regardless of how many men like me are around.
Troy - 21 Jun 2006 08:43 GMT
> crackin_silver@mail.com says...
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> You've passed the point of belief when you claim that any woman who has gotten
> rid of you is still miserable.

????    I said: "I've made myself scarce in their presense..." IOW,
since I take steps to avoid (or at least minimize) their presense as
much as possible in the first place, there is therefore no "getting rid
of me" on their part.

My first guess would have been that you are just a dipshit illiterate
moron.  But on second thought, it's more likely you're a
psychologically unstable sociopath who has no regard for the actual
meaning of words.

> Regardless of how many men like me are around.

"Men" (always around quotation marks in your case) like you being
pussy-whipped, emasculated, male freaks with no self-respect - I'll
give you credit for at least acknowledging that much.
Nearl J Icarus - 21 Jun 2006 09:42 GMT
crackin_silver@mail.com says...

>give you credit for at least acknowledging that much.

The only thing you can acknowledge is a 'man' like you is nothing like a man
like me.
Troy - 21 Jun 2006 09:52 GMT
> crackin_silver@mail.com says...
>
> >give you credit for at least acknowledging that much.
>
> The only thing you can acknowledge is a man like you is nothing like a man
> like me.

Thank God for that!
Rambler - 21 Jun 2006 16:01 GMT
>>crackin_silver@mail.com says...
>>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Thank God for that!

Wow ... and stupid enough to accept the quotation marks.  Do you
practice hard to come across like an idiot, or does it jus come naturally?

Rambler
Troy - 22 Jun 2006 02:57 GMT
> >>crackin_silver@mail.com says...
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Wow ... and stupid enough to accept the quotation marks.  Do you
> practice hard to come across like an idiot, or does it jus come naturally?

So now the tag team partner takes over. LOL  You pussified male freaks
are some piece of work.  I guess that's why you all have happy,
successful marriages and  - oops, wait.  I forgot.  You guys got
knocked flat on your a.ses...BY WOMEN.  In divorce court.  LOL

One could do a research paper you on the psychology of male pussies
like you, loving your misery so much, throwing away your self-respect
to protect these stupid, weak creatures who don't respect you, whom you
allowed to sh.t on you and break up your families.  Now that's a
thought that must warm the heart as you sign yet another alimony check
over to your worthless ex-wife.  LOL
Nearl J Icarus - 22 Jun 2006 06:56 GMT
crackin_silver@mail.com says...

>are some piece of work.  I guess that's why you all have happy,
>successful marriages and  - oops, wait.  I forgot.  You guys got
>knocked flat on your a.ses...BY WOMEN.  In divorce court.  LOL

I divorced her and have primary physical custody of our youngest son.

>One could do a research paper you on the psychology of male pussies
>like you, loving your misery so much, throwing away your self-respect
>to protect these stupid, weak creatures who don't respect you, whom you
>allowed to sh.t on you and break up your families.  Now that's a
>thought that must warm the heart as you sign yet another alimony check
>over to your worthless ex-wife.  LOL

And you'd get a grade way past F, more closer to Z. I paid alimoney for a year
and I've been divorced for 3. (was married for 27). And I wasn't ordered to pay
any alimoney. Your research paper would be a total fabrication. Kinda like your
life's story.

Do you have any substance at all? Your making it cloudy may seem to give
yourself the appearance of some depth, but you haven't any. So the only person
being fooled here is you.
Troy - 24 Jun 2006 07:47 GMT
> crackin_silver@mail.com says...
>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> and I've been divorced for 3. (was married for 27). And I wasn't ordered to pay
> any alimoney.

And to hell with you - you're still a pussified, emasculated fool.
Your life story will not change that fact about you.  And neither will
it serve as a tool to invalidate anything I've said, or the wholly
justified anger of growing numbers of men to the injustices they face,
or the very real problem that centers on the female population in
western societies.
Rambler - 24 Jun 2006 17:48 GMT
>>crackin_silver@mail.com says...
>>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> And to hell with you - you're still a pussified, emasculated fool.

I mean, damn the facts and full speed ahead.

> Your life story will not change that fact about you.  And neither will
> it serve as a tool to invalidate anything I've said,

You mean you actually said something?

> or the wholly
> justified anger of growing numbers of men to the injustices they face,
> or the very real problem that centers on the female population in
> western societies.

Just a question, bright spark ... have you ever even left Cleveland?

Rambler
Rambler - 22 Jun 2006 10:32 GMT
>>>>crackin_silver@mail.com says...
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> thought that must warm the heart as you sign yet another alimony check
> over to your worthless ex-wife.  LOL

I see it just comes naturally.

Rambler
Troy - 24 Jun 2006 07:50 GMT
> >>>>crackin_silver@mail.com says...
> >>>>
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
> I see it just comes naturally.

Hey, whatever you have to do to cope with the fact that you're a
pussified, p-whipped, male freak.  And no self-esteem to boot.
Rambler - 24 Jun 2006 17:51 GMT
>>>>Wow ... and stupid enough to accept the quotation marks.  Do you
>>>>practice hard to come across like an idiot, or does it jus come naturally?

<snip>

>>I see it just comes naturally.
>
> Hey, whatever you have to do to cope with the fact that you're a
> pussified, p-whipped, male freak.  And no self-esteem to boot.

What, you mean knocking little runts like you over the head.

Oh, and bright speark, I know you might need the help of a dictionary,
but pray tell how one can be both "pussified" and "penis-whipped" at the
same time.  Logic also isn't your forte there, is it sport?

Rambler
Troy - 26 Jun 2006 23:30 GMT
> >>>>Wow ... and stupid enough to accept the quotation marks.  Do you
> >>>>practice hard to come across like an idiot, or does it jus come naturally?
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> but pray tell how one can be both "pussified" and "penis-whipped" at the
> same time.  Logic also isn't your forte there, is it sport?

That's *PUSSY*-whipped, you dumbfuck moron.

But actually, it wouldn't at all be contradictory in your case to be
"penis-whipped," since an emasculated, pussified, weak-willed, male
freak like you would easily be taken for a fag anyway.
Rambler - 27 Jun 2006 17:25 GMT
>>>>>>Wow ... and stupid enough to accept the quotation marks.  Do you
>>>>>>practice hard to come across like an idiot, or does it jus come naturally?
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> "penis-whipped," since an emasculated, pussified, weak-willed, male
> freak like you would easily be taken for a fag anyway.

Wow ... so you can say pussified, but not pussy-whipped.  Momma comign
down hard on you I see.  Ask her nicely, and she might give you another
cookie.

Rambler
Nearl J Icarus - 22 Jun 2006 06:44 GMT
crackin_silver@mail.com says...

>> The only thing you can acknowledge is a 'man' like you is nothing like a man
>> like me.
>Thank God for that!

And learn to quote.
Rambler - 21 Jun 2006 16:00 GMT
>>crackin_silver@mail.com says...
>>
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> pussy-whipped, emasculated, male freaks with no self-respect - I'll
> give you credit for at least acknowledging that much.

We've got ourselves a claire - voyant.

Rambler
Troy - 24 Jun 2006 08:07 GMT
> >>crackin_silver@mail.com says...
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> >
> We've got ourselves a claire - voyant.

You make it so obvious with your unabashedly disgraceful displays of
pussified, self-emasculating behavior.
Rambler - 24 Jun 2006 17:52 GMT
>>>>crackin_silver@mail.com says...
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
> You make it so obvious with your unabashedly disgraceful displays of
> pussified, self-emasculating behavior.

A kettle, boys, a kettle.  I think we've got a kettle.

Rambler
Troy - 26 Jun 2006 23:50 GMT
> >>>>crackin_silver@mail.com says...
> >>>>
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
>
> A kettle, boys, a kettle.  I think we've got a kettle.

There you go again, acting like a nut-less, feminized, pussy boy.
Charging the other side with "hypocrisy" - in effect admitting by
default what you were called on in the first place.
Rambler - 27 Jun 2006 17:29 GMT
>>A kettle, boys, a kettle.  I think we've got a kettle.
>
> There you go again, acting like a nut-less, feminized, pussy boy.
> Charging the other side with "hypocrisy" - in effect admitting by
> default what you were called on in the first place.

You're funny.  You've done absolutely nothing ... the big ZERO ...
except to throw out epithets.  None grounded in reality, none grounded
in logic, and all simply proving that you are disconnected because, when
it comes down to it, your *only* response is 'see, you are a [(n) epithet].

In your case, Troy (a great name for a fag by the way), "Nothing but ...
nothing."

As I said, you're funny, but not smart at all.

Rambler
JBug - 28 Jun 2006 12:57 GMT
> >>A kettle, boys, a kettle.  I think we've got a kettle.
> >
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> Rambler

Thats what i thought too. He is funny. Perhaps he's just ignoring the
fact that he has serious issues. I think he has never met any good
people in he's life and that is why he thinks anyone who does not agree
with him are stupid. Which means he is not smart at all but one very
aggressive male trying to take he's revenge for being mistreated by
other people especially WOMEN!
Rambler - 21 Jun 2006 15:59 GMT
>>crackin_silver@mail.com says...
>>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> presense, they've already gotten failed, damaged men like you in
> spades, and they're still horribly miserable.

Here's your mirror.

Rambler
Troy - 24 Jun 2006 08:12 GMT
> >>crackin_silver@mail.com says...
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> >
> Here's your mirror.

And when I hold it up to you, all you see back is your weak, unmanly,
pussified, p-whipped reflection.
Nearl J Icarus - 24 Jun 2006 09:23 GMT
crackin_silver@mail.com says...

>And when I hold it up to you, all you see back is your weak, unmanly,
>pussified, p-whipped reflection.

All the same note, and very off key. I hope you blow better than you preach.
Rambler - 24 Jun 2006 17:52 GMT
>>>>crackin_silver@mail.com says...
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> And when I hold it up to you, all you see back is your weak, unmanly,
> pussified, p-whipped reflection.

Here's a handkerchief for the drooling.

Rambler
Troy - 27 Jun 2006 00:14 GMT
> >>>>crackin_silver@mail.com says...
> >>>>
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> Here's a handkerchief for the drooling.

And your reflection still remains.
Rambler - 27 Jun 2006 17:30 GMT
>>>And when I hold it up to you, all you see back is your weak, unmanly,
>>>pussified, p-whipped reflection.
>>
>>Here's a handkerchief for the drooling.
>
> And your reflection still remains.

Troyble with the spittle there, chump?

Rambler
Kitty - 11 Jun 2006 08:11 GMT
>> >> > This anti-male bias raises its ugly head in our reproductive and
>> >> > domestic-violence laws. Here are but three examples:
[quoted text clipped - 74 lines]
>malicious and indifferent towards the claims of men - is an example of
>the willful evil that resides in the souls of women.

Boooo

>There is no reason why any man should show any consideration or
>sympathy to the claims of women, as they have done in the past.
>Western women are destined to pay a severe price.

meow meow, whine whine...
oh, I should clue you in, I'm not a 'western woman', sooo, so much for
your argument.
I was hoping for some entertainment here, but you make a boring
repetitive troll.

Women...hate...whine...whine...Women...hate...whine...whine
Your needle is stuck.  yawn.
Bill in Co. - 11 Jun 2006 08:23 GMT
>>>>>> This anti-male bias raises its ugly head in our reproductive and
>>>>>> domestic-violence laws. Here are but three examples:
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>>>>>> * VAWA (Violence Against Women Act)-gives women, even illegal aliens,
>>>>>> wide latitude and financial assistance to accuse and falsely accuse
men
>>>>>> of violence; provides no legal relief or financial assistance to men
>>>>>> whom women physically abuse, even though women and men physically
abuse
>>>>>> each other in equal percentages
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Safe-Haven Laws-47 states allow women, without penalty, to deposit
>>>>>> their unwanted newborns at fire stations within 72 hours of birth,
and
>>>>>> to change their minds two weeks thereafter. Men must abide by
whatever
>>>>>> decisions the women make.
>>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>>>>> deposits, and us wimminz will worry about our body parts.
>>>>> You hav all the control you need. You just don't like it when it
spoils
>>>>> your fun. You want control after you're done having fun. Guess what,
>>>>> nature arranged for something different.
[quoted text clipped - 65 lines]
>
> Your needle is stuck.  yawn.

He doesn't know what you're talkin about (when you mentioned "needle").    I
doubt if he's old enough to remember.
Kitty - 11 Jun 2006 08:54 GMT
>> meow meow, whine whine...
>> oh, I should clue you in, I'm not a 'western woman', sooo, so much for
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>He doesn't know what you're talkin about (when you mentioned "needle").    I
>doubt if he's old enough to remember.

Yeah, he might confuse it with the needle up his arm.
I wonder what kind of a drug causes that kind of distortion.

I think Ecstasy makes one horny and euphoric. I think Meth creates
paranoia.
Or maybe he took ecstasy, and no lay in sight, now that would be a
biatch, ay?
Troy - 11 Jun 2006 20:09 GMT
> >> >> > This anti-male bias raises its ugly head in our reproductive and
> >> >> > domestic-violence laws. Here are but three examples:
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>
> Boooo

With every continued response, you keep confirming the worst ascribed
to you.

> >There is no reason why any man should show any consideration or
> >sympathy to the claims of women, as they have done in the past.
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> Women...hate...whine...whine...Women...hate...whine...whine
> Your needle is stuck.  yawn.

I wonder just how many husbands have tried to talk seriously with their
wives, and have been met with your type of behavior and attitude.  I
will bet more than I care to imagine.

I also wonder how many stupid, worthless women like you have dialed
911, as a result of a husband lashing out in anger at your vile,
deliberately evil - and deliberately provocative - behavior.

Your attitude here highlights the lie of so-called "gender equality."
Women ARE inferior to men.  Your childish, stupid behavior is proof of
that.  You as a woman are not just intellectually inferior, but MORALLY
inferior as well.  It is unimaginable that your type of response could
come from a man, for example.  So the idea that women are inferior to
men - and hate men because of it - is not so dismissible as you try to
make it seem.

I will repeat again:  There is no reason why any man should show any
consideration or sympathy to the claims of women, as they have done in
the past.  Western women are destined to pay a severe price.
_mL_ - 11 Jun 2006 21:54 GMT
>Women ARE inferior to men.

Then stay away from them.
Troy - 11 Jun 2006 22:15 GMT
> >Women ARE inferior to men.
>
> Then stay away from them.

No, that would give them a victory they do not deserve.  The
despicable, cruel nature of women need to be exposed.  And then it's up
to the men to decide what's in their best interest, and how to respond
accordingly.  Men gain nothing by treating women with respect or
sympathy.
Kitty - 12 Jun 2006 02:18 GMT
>>Women ARE inferior to men.
>
>Then stay away from them.

Yeah, I'm all for gay marriages.
Whatever makes them happy, I say.
siskiyou_sam@yahoo.com - 10 Jun 2006 13:21 GMT
> It's just a as stupid for you to complain about your reproduvctive
> rights after you left a deposit,

I don't think he's ever left a deposit anywhere but a few weak spurts
that ended up on his keyboard.

Sam
Kitty - 11 Jun 2006 05:28 GMT
>> It's just a as stupid for you to complain about your reproduvctive
>> rights after you left a deposit,
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>
>Sam

Bwaaaahahahahahaha
Good one!

in that case, thee's no need for him to worry about Men's reproductive
right, is there?
siskiyou_sam@yahoo.com - 11 Jun 2006 16:36 GMT
> >> It's just a as stupid for you to complain about your reproduvctive
> >> rights after you left a deposit,
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> in that case, thee's no need for him to worry about Men's reproductive
> right, is there?

If he's got no sproggies of his own then it's all an abstraction. All
mine are growd up. And a frisky lot they were too. So far though, I've
only got 2 grandkids. I want acres of them! "Get busy" say I!

Sam
rdubose@pdq.net - 11 Jun 2006 17:46 GMT
> > This anti-male bias raises its ugly head in our reproductive and
> > domestic-violence laws. Here are but three examples:
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> nature arranged for something different.
> Quit yer whining and deal with it.

  When a man and a woman fall into bed for an evening of spontaneous,
unprotected carnal knowledge and a pregnancy results, we might conclude
that they were equally responsible for that outcome. For one thing,
they were most likely equally drunk (or sober).
  The rights and responsibilities that appear afterwards are anything
but equal are not based, as you imply, purely on biological
foundations.
  If the woman - after having her fun- does not wish to be a parent at
that stage in life, she may abort the pregnancy or simply abandon the
child, no questions asked, with no further responsibility towards its
support.
  If a man - after having his fun - wishes to avoid parenthood at that
stage in life, he has no options whatsoever; he need not be consulted
before being handed 18 + years of child support payments.
  This is hardly a balanced set of options and it is NOT based on
biology. State mandated child support is not found in nature. Mens
ability to walk away is what nature decrees. But now you will say,
"That would not be fair!!! Why should he be able to escape the
consequences of our night of fun but not me???"
    The answer is because of raw nature -  until somethings called
laws and civilization were developed. And if these fragile notions are
to persist, they need to be based on foundations that pass for balance
and fairness - even if that means occasionally resisting the temptation
to conveniently dump burdens  onto the nearest guy.

> It's just a as stupid for you to complain about your reproduvctive
> rights after you left a deposit, as it is for a woman to complain that
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> irreponsibility in choices you make does limit your freedoms.
> Consequences are a biatch, aren't they?
Kitty - 11 Jun 2006 21:16 GMT
>> > This anti-male bias raises its ugly head in our reproductive and
>> > domestic-violence laws. Here are but three examples:
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>that they were equally responsible for that outcome. For one thing,
>they were most likely equally drunk (or sober).

Exactly!
The only problem is, once man has released the sperm, he no longer has
control over what happens to it.
If I were a guy, I'd save a few shots of sperm for when I actually
want to have a family, and have a vasectomy. It worse very slick,and
you can have recreational sex without worrying about unplanned
pregnancies.

>   The rights and responsibilities that appear afterwards are anything
>but equal are not based, as you imply, purely on biological
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>stage in life, he has no options whatsoever; he need not be consulted
>before being handed 18 + years of child support payments.

What if it was Aids and both people were irresponsible and had
unprotected sex, after the sex act after they've contracted aids,
they're stuck for life, because of a little bit of fun.
For a woman, having a baby is also a royal pain in the a.s about what
it does to your body, so it's not a walk in the park either.

>   This is hardly a balanced set of options and it is NOT based on
>biology. State mandated child support is not found in nature. Mens
>ability to walk away is what nature decrees. But now you will say,
>"That would not be fair!!! Why should he be able to escape the
>consequences of our night of fun but not me???"

Actually, if a woman got knocked up, without being in a committed
relationship, and then proceeded to whine about how  guy was a
deadbeat because he didn't want to be a dad, I'd smack her up-side the
head with the book "10 stupid things women do to mess up their lives"
and ask what the hell were you thinking???

>     The answer is because of raw nature -  until somethings called
>laws and civilization were developed. And if these fragile notions are
>to persist, they need to be based on foundations that pass for balance
>and fairness - even if that means occasionally resisting the temptation
>to conveniently dump burdens  onto the nearest guy.

And the guys are so driven by their need to have sex, that they are
incapable of considering consequences? I always thought higher then
that of men.

As for some people, well, you can't protect everyone from their own
stupidity.
rdubose@pdq.net - 11 Jun 2006 21:59 GMT
> >> > This anti-male bias raises its ugly head in our reproductive and
> >> > domestic-violence laws. Here are but three examples:
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> unprotected sex, after the sex act after they've contracted aids,
> they're stuck for life, because of a little bit of fun.

  But HIV cannot be made to go away via abortion.

> For a woman, having a baby is also a royal pain in the a.s about what
> it does to your body, so it's not a walk in the park either.

  But that route is, these days, her choice.

> >   This is hardly a balanced set of options and it is NOT based on
> >biology. State mandated child support is not found in nature. Mens
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> head with the book "10 stupid things women do to mess up their lives"
> and ask what the hell were you thinking???

  Sure. And stupid men should get a similar lecture. But after the
lecturers are delivered, the impact of actual laws are anything but
symmetrical. There are really no circumstances wherein a mom of an
unwanted pregnancy/parenthood is going to be required to pay her money
to support it, regardless of what the man or anyone else chooses to do.
Men with unwanted fatherhood are routinely assigned child support
regardless of their interests or intentions. She gets a series of
opt-outs, he does not..

> >     The answer is because of raw nature -  until somethings called
> >laws and civilization were developed. And if these fragile notions are
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> incapable of considering consequences? I always thought higher then
> that of men.

   It is right that people learn to act in respect of consequences.
Only mischief is created when those legal consequences are stacked up
according to ones gender birth-group.

> As for some people, well, you can't protect everyone from their own
> stupidity.
Kitty - 12 Jun 2006 01:52 GMT
>> >> > This anti-male bias raises its ugly head in our reproductive and
>> >> > domestic-violence laws. Here are but three examples:
[quoted text clipped - 54 lines]
>
>   But HIV cannot be made to go away via abortion.

That's not the point I was making.
Point was, if you know you can get stuck with something for life, you
need to think about it before past the point of no return.

>> For a woman, having a baby is also a royal pain in the a.s about what
>> it does to your body, so it's not a walk in the park either.
>
>   But that route is, these days, her choice.

Yeah, the timing of her final choice is not the same as the timing of
a male final choice. There re other things in life where men because
of their physiology have different choices then women. So it goes. I
don't think either gender is at a huge advantage or disadvantage,
overall.
Each one of us ends up having to take on the personal responsibility
to know the consequences of our choices, and live with them.

>> >   This is hardly a balanced set of options and it is NOT based on
>> >biology. State mandated child support is not found in nature. Mens
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>unwanted pregnancy/parenthood is going to be required to pay her money
>to support it, regardless of what the man or anyone else chooses to do.

Don't want pregnancy, don't have sex without really really good birth
control. if you're laxe about it, you're assuming the risk.

>Men with unwanted fatherhood are routinely assigned child support
>regardless of their interests or intentions. She gets a series of
>opt-outs, he does not..

He does. Just not when he thinks it's convenient.
Like I said, want sex with no consequences, get a vasectomy. It's much
quicker and simple then trying to change a law to protect you from
lack of personal responsibility.
See, you do have choices.  Vasectomy is a TON easier procedure then an
abortion too, and it can be reversed.
Women don't have that kind of an option, once your tubes are tied, the
chances of reversal are zilch. So maybe women should whine about how
men have more convenient choices ahead of time?
Anyway, this whole bit about how it's stacked against men, I just
don't buy it.

>> >     The answer is because of raw nature -  until somethings called
>> >laws and civilization were developed. And if these fragile notions are
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>Only mischief is created when those legal consequences are stacked up
>according to ones gender birth-group.

I don't think the legal consequences are stacked against one any more
then the other. Two people have sex and make a baby, they get to be
jointly responsible for it.
If a guy doesn't take precautions while he can, then he's assuming the
risk.

On the other hand, if you were able to have a guy dictate whether a
woman should or shouldn't have a child, the it should be true
otherwise. If I don't want child, Then I take precautions. if I want
family, then I make sure I find a willing mate.
harddon@__U_guess__.com - 10 Jun 2006 09:59 GMT
>Rampant MissBehaving

Never use the word MEN and HARD in the same subject line !!!!

Don Hard
siskiyou_sam@yahoo.com - 10 Jun 2006 13:18 GMT
I did that just the other day. Damn if there ain't some fine looking
(and acting) women all around me.

Sam
Kitty - 11 Jun 2006 05:30 GMT
>I did that just the other day. Damn if there ain't some fine looking
>(and acting) women all around me.
>
>Sam

You're not so bad yourself.
And the way your name so effortlessly rolls of the tongue...

[Kitty: too bad I'm taken :(  I just love men, the real ones.]
siskiyou_sam@yahoo.com - 11 Jun 2006 16:32 GMT
> >I did that just the other day. Damn if there ain't some fine looking
> >(and acting) women all around me.
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>
> [Kitty: too bad I'm taken :(  I just love men, the real ones.]

Well thank you mam. Now, mind you, I am kicking down the door of 60,
and I may be as grey as a Gold Beach morning, but I ain't fat and I
ain't bitter. Just crusty and sorta sunburnt.

Sam
Kitty - 11 Jun 2006 21:17 GMT
>> >I did that just the other day. Damn if there ain't some fine looking
>> >(and acting) women all around me.
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>and I may be as grey as a Gold Beach morning, but I ain't fat and I
>ain't bitter. Just crusty and sorta sunburnt.

ahh, the rugged charm :)

My ex bf just turned 62
siskiyou_sam@yahoo.com - 11 Jun 2006 23:09 GMT
> >> >I did that just the other day. Damn if there ain't some fine looking
> >> >(and acting) women all around me.
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>
> My ex bf just turned 62

And how old are you young lady?

Sam
Kitty - 12 Jun 2006 01:55 GMT
>> >> >I did that just the other day. Damn if there ain't some fine looking
>> >> >(and acting) women all around me.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
>And how old are you young lady?

37 going on 50 ;)
Some days going on 21, just depending on what kind of a mood I'm in.

My current bf is 47.

What matters more then chronological age is compatible health and
lifestyles (and other relevant relationship compatibilities)
John Smith - 12 Jun 2006 07:10 GMT
> 37 going on 50 ;)
> Some days going on 21, just depending on what kind of a mood I'm in.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> What matters more then chronological age is compatible health and
> lifestyles (and other relevant relationship compatibilities)

Kitty litter, if you actually believe this bullcrap that you wrote here than
why are you so ashamed of your age. Liar. Claiming to be between 21 to 50.
Just tell him what your reall age is. We know you are fat, ugly, old and
stupid.
Casey - 13 Jun 2006 05:57 GMT
John Smith said
> "Kitty" <Conniekat@DaKitty.meow> wrote in message
> > 37 going on 50 ;)
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Just tell him what your reall age is. We know you are fat, ugly, old and
> stupid.

It must really suck to be you ... you can lust after Kitty in your
dreams from now to eternity, but she'll never go for a little twerp
like yourself.

Casey
John Smith - 13 Jun 2006 16:10 GMT
> John Smith said
> > "Kitty" <Conniekat@DaKitty.meow> wrote in message
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> dreams from now to eternity, but she'll never go for a little twerp
> like yourself.

Sounds to me you are desperate enough to lust after kitty litter. I have no
interest in her. Her lying and general low class eastern Euro-trash demeanor
is what irks me. I say deport the fat fugly witch back to Serbia.

> Casey
rj - 13 Jun 2006 17:22 GMT
(snip)

>Sounds to me you are desperate enough to lust after kitty litter. I have no
>interest in her. Her lying and general low class eastern Euro-trash demeanor
>is what irks me. I say deport the fat fugly witch back to Serbia.

ROTFLMAO!!

C'mon juan...  We all know that what *really* bothers you about Kitty
is that she's so much smarter than you.  <grin>  I'll bet she makes
more than you do, too....

rj
Kitty - 13 Jun 2006 21:27 GMT
> (snip)
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> is that she's so much smarter than you.  <grin>  I'll bet she makes
> more than you do, too....

He's a perfect example of why I typically don't date men closer to my
own age.
I look at you, Casey, Rambler, Yooper, Xenos, JoeSt, Sam, Bogey, last
but not the lweast, my BF (I know I'm forgetting few others, please
forgive me). Now, there are guys you can have a nice stimulating and
educational conversation on a sunday afternoon while BBQing and having
a sip of chardonnay on a nice breezy terrace. Or you can joke around
and giggle with them as well.
You can't do that with the likes of Johnny.
John Riggs - 13 Jun 2006 21:45 GMT
>> (snip)
>>
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> and giggle with them as well.
> You can't do that with the likes of Johnny.

   Nope, he's a bit of a demented sad sack, which is why he's been
permanently placed in my KF along with Ray-tardo.
Kitty - 13 Jun 2006 22:07 GMT
> >> (snip)
> >>
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>     Nope, he's a bit of a demented sad sack, which is why he's been
> permanently placed in my KF along with Ray-tardo.

Ooooh, see, I knew I was forgetting someone!
Where have you been hiding lately?
Casey - 14 Jun 2006 03:21 GMT
Kitty said

> > C'mon juan...  We all know that what *really* bothers you about Kitty
> > is that she's so much smarter than you.  <grin>  I'll bet she makes
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> a sip of chardonnay on a nice breezy terrace. Or you can joke around
> and giggle with them as well.

I am humbled to be included in the group above - I think talking with
any of those guys at a Sunday BBQ would be education and entertaining
as well.

Heck, I may be a bit biased, but I think I'm even fun to converse with
on a Saturday while sipping Maker's Mark.

Of course the more I sip, the more stimulating I think I am to others.  
Maybe there's a pattern there ... hmmmm.

> You can't do that with the likes of Johnny.

<shudder>

Casey
Kitty - 14 Jun 2006 05:43 GMT
>Kitty said
>
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>Of course the more I sip, the more stimulating I think I am to others.  
>Maybe there's a pattern there ... hmmmm.

What would be even more fun is getting a bigger group of you guys
together
*giggle*
I love to hear guys get together and share stories.
John Smith - 14 Jun 2006 06:26 GMT
> > (snip)
> >
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> > C'mon juan...  We all know that what *really* bothers you about Kitty
> > is that she's so much smarter than you.  <grin>  I'll bet she makes

Kitty litter smarter than me ???? Common rj trash, there are better ways of
insulting someone ;-)

> > more than you do, too....
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> forgive me). Now, there are guys you can have a nice stimulating and
> educational conversation on a sunday afternoon while BBQing and having

And they need viagra too, but I bet you know all about that;-)

> a sip of chardonnay on a nice breezy terrace. Or you can joke around
> and giggle with them as well.
> You can't do that with the likes of Johnny.

You'd be begging for more with me. Hehehehehehe.
Kitty - 14 Jun 2006 19:03 GMT
> > > (snip)
> > >
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>
> And they need viagra too, but I bet you know all about that;-)

Measure of a man has nothing to do with his ability to get an erection.
Any 18 year old has you beat in that department, and there's a new
batch of them turning 18 every year. Stiff horny cocks much nicer then
yours are dime a dozen.

> > a sip of chardonnay on a nice breezy terrace. Or you can joke around
> > and giggle with them as well.
> > You can't do that with the likes of Johnny.
>
> You'd be begging for more with me. Hehehehehehe

Ewwww!
What an insufferable twit.
m-L - 14 Jun 2006 20:31 GMT
>> > I look at you, Casey, Rambler, Yooper, Xenos, JoeSt, Sam, Bogey, last
>> > but not the lweast, my BF (I know I'm forgetting few others, please
>> > forgive me). Now, there are guys you can have a nice stimulating and
>> > educational conversation on a sunday afternoon while BBQing and having
>>
>> And they need viagra too, but I bet you know all about that;-)

ummm... i know for a FACT that the above statement is false.
rj - 14 Jun 2006 22:48 GMT
>>> > I look at you, Casey, Rambler, Yooper, Xenos, JoeSt, Sam, Bogey, last
>>> > but not the lweast, my BF (I know I'm forgetting few others, please
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>ummm... i know for a FACT that the above statement is false.

ROTFLMAO!

What's this.... a *testamonial*????

<grin>

Mebbe we should start a new thread:  OT-Testamonials....Johnny Need
Not Apply

rj
John Riggs - 14 Jun 2006 23:02 GMT
>>>> > I look at you, Casey, Rambler, Yooper, Xenos, JoeSt, Sam, Bogey, last
>>>> > but not the lweast, my BF (I know I'm forgetting few others, please
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> rj

   Well, Lil' Johnny brags he leaves them begging for more .....
problem is he didn't have enough to start, otherwise he wouldn't be here.

HINT: Real men don't have to brag.
Kitty - 15 Jun 2006 05:24 GMT
>>>>> > I look at you, Casey, Rambler, Yooper, Xenos, JoeSt, Sam, Bogey, last
>>>>> > but not the lweast, my BF (I know I'm forgetting few others, please
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
>HINT: Real men don't have to brag.

eeeeegzactly!
But, could I brag about what a nice and charming guy you are? :)
and a very very good and loyal friend!

whom I feel very guilty for neglecting all too often :(
John Riggs - 15 Jun 2006 06:04 GMT
>>>>>> > I look at you, Casey, Rambler, Yooper, Xenos, JoeSt, Sam, Bogey,
>>>>>> > last
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
>
> whom I feel very guilty for neglecting all too often :(

   Shucks! Ya made me blush. Yer too kind.
Kitty - 15 Jun 2006 06:40 GMT
>>>>>>> > I look at you, Casey, Rambler, Yooper, Xenos, JoeSt, Sam, Bogey,
>>>>>>> > last
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
>> whom I feel very guilty for neglecting all too often :(
>    Shucks! Ya made me blush. Yer too kind.

naaaah, not too kind at all.
people who put up with my quirks moods and shenanigans and still act
friendly are very few. You're on of them!
*mwah*
Bill in Co. - 15 Jun 2006 07:10 GMT
>>>>>>>>> I look at you, Casey, Rambler, Yooper, Xenos, JoeSt, Sam, Bogey,
>>>>>>>>> last
>>>>>>>>> but not the lweast, my BF (I know I'm forgetting few others,
please
>>>>>>>>> forgive me). Now, there are guys you can have a nice stimulating
and
>>>>>>>>> educational conversation on a sunday afternoon while BBQing and
>>>>>>>>> having
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>>>>    Well, Lil' Johnny brags he leaves them begging for more .....
>>>> problem is he didn't have enough to start, otherwise he wouldn't be
here.

>>>> HINT: Real men don't have to brag.
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> friendly are very few. You're on of them!
> *mwah*

I do too!   How come I never get a kiss?
John Riggs - 15 Jun 2006 13:54 GMT
>>>>>>>>>> I look at you, Casey, Rambler, Yooper, Xenos, JoeSt, Sam, Bogey,
>>>>>>>>>> last
[quoted text clipped - 39 lines]
>
> I do too!   How come I never get a kiss?

       'Cause Kitty like me best :-P
Bill in Co. - 15 Jun 2006 19:34 GMT
>>>>>>>>>>> I look at you, Casey, Rambler, Yooper, Xenos, JoeSt, Sam, Bogey,
>>>>>>>>>>> last
>>>>>>>>>>> but not the lweast, my BF (I know I'm forgetting few others,
please
>>>>>>>>>>> forgive me). Now, there are guys you can have a nice stimulating
and
>>>>>>>>>>> educational conversation on a sunday afternoon while BBQing and
>>>>>>>>>>> having
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>>>>>>    Well, Lil' Johnny brags he leaves them begging for more .....
>>>>>> problem is he didn't have enough to start, otherwise he wouldn't be
here.

>>>>>> HINT: Real men don't have to brag.
>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
>         'Cause Kitty like me best :-P

Yeah, but look at all the quirks moods and shenanigans I have to put up with
in this group, on the part of so many of y'all.    It ain't fair.
Rambler - 16 Jun 2006 17:26 GMT
>>>>naaaah, not too kind at all.
>>>>people who put up with my quirks moods and shenanigans and still act
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Yeah, but look at all the quirks moods and shenanigans I have to put up with
> in this group, on the part of so many of y'all.    It ain't fair.

Life, eh Bill? Life.

Rambler
Kitty - 16 Jun 2006 03:54 GMT
>>>>>>>>>> I look at you, Casey, Rambler, Yooper, Xenos, JoeSt, Sam, Bogey,
>>>>>>>>>> last
[quoted text clipped - 39 lines]
>
>I do too!   How come I never get a kiss?

cause I never get a chance to miss you :P
Nearl J Icarus - 15 Jun 2006 06:32 GMT
the.tumbleweed@yahoo.com says...

>    Well, Lil' Johnny brags he leaves them begging for more .....

Of course he leaves them begging for more, he can't satisfy any of them. That
is why he uses "microsoft" for his e-mail. That is what the ladies call him.
Kitty - 15 Jun 2006 06:42 GMT
>the.tumbleweed@yahoo.com says...
>
>>    Well, Lil' Johnny brags he leaves them begging for more .....
>
>Of course he leaves them begging for more, he can't satisfy any of them. That
>is why he uses "microsoft" for his e-mail. That is what the ladies call him.

*groan*
OMG, that is too good, got me laughing to tears.
m-L - 15 Jun 2006 07:16 GMT
fasten your seatbelts, its going to be a rough ride. wrote:
>the.tumbleweed@yahoo.com says...
>
>>    Well, Lil' Johnny brags he leaves them begging for more .....
>
>Of course he leaves them begging for more, he can't satisfy any of them. That
>is why he uses "microsoft" for his e-mail. That is what the ladies call him.

:-)  Damn that's funny!
J0hn Smith - 15 Jun 2006 05:03 GMT
> >>> > I look at you, Casey, Rambler, Yooper, Xenos, JoeSt, Sam, Bogey, last
> >>> > but not the lweast, my BF (I know I'm forgetting few others, please
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>
> rj

rj, does viagra even work at your age. Hahahahahaha.
Kitty - 15 Jun 2006 05:27 GMT
>> >>> > I look at you, Casey, Rambler, Yooper, Xenos, JoeSt, Sam, Bogey,
>last
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>
>rj, does viagra even work at your age. Hahahahahaha.

You'll find out soon enough, pushing 40, you're no spring chicken
yourself.
You're starting to be one of those guys  bars that 20 yr old guys
point at and whisper about, I hope I'm not still lingering around here
trying to act like 20 at *his age*
Rambler - 15 Jun 2006 18:40 GMT
>>rj, does viagra even work at your age. Hahahahahaha.
>
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> point at and whisper about, I hope I'm not still lingering around here
> trying to act like 20 at *his age*

I can guarantee you that 40 doesn't equate to needing viagra.

Rambler
Kitty - 15 Jun 2006 19:02 GMT
> >>rj, does viagra even work at your age. Hahahahahaha.
> >
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>
> I can guarantee you that 40 doesn't equate to needing viagra.

I know, I know, but...
Kitty elbows Rambler a little and rolls eyes at Jonhhy-boy,
shhh... play along will ya.... ;)
J0hn Smith - 16 Jun 2006 04:58 GMT
> > >>rj, does viagra even work at your age. Hahahahahaha.
> > >
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> Kitty elbows Rambler a little and rolls eyes at Jonhhy-boy,
> shhh... play along will ya.... ;)

Kitty knows what age needs viagra. All the boyfriends she can scrounge up
need viagra. Too bad nobody under 60 would go out with her. Kitty what is
the maximum o's have you had?
Rambler - 16 Jun 2006 17:27 GMT
>>>>>rj, does viagra even work at your age. Hahahahahaha.
>>>>
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> need viagra. Too bad nobody under 60 would go out with her. Kitty what is
> the maximum o's have you had?

I'm sorry, what *type* of a maroon are you?

Rambler
Kitty - 15 Jun 2006 05:20 GMT
>>>> > I look at you, Casey, Rambler, Yooper, Xenos, JoeSt, Sam, Bogey, last
>>>> > but not the lweast, my BF (I know I'm forgetting few others, please
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>Mebbe we should start a new thread:  OT-Testamonials....Johnny Need
>Not Apply
LOL
yeh, Johnny's right hand would have to testify for his left, and vice
versa.
Kitty - 15 Jun 2006 05:19 GMT
>>> > I look at you, Casey, Rambler, Yooper, Xenos, JoeSt, Sam, Bogey, last
>>> > but not the lweast, my BF (I know I'm forgetting few others, please
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>
>ummm... i know for a FACT that the above statement is false.

It strikes me as peculiar that Johnny knows so much about viagra.
Mot people don't investigate things like that till they need them.
Nearl J Icarus - 15 Jun 2006 06:37 GMT
Conniekat@DaKitty.meow says...

>It strikes me as peculiar that Johnny knows so much about viagra.

He was hoping it would prevent him from rolling out of bed at the nursing home.
Kitty - 15 Jun 2006 06:44 GMT
>Conniekat@DaKitty.meow says...
>
>>It strikes me as peculiar that Johnny knows so much about viagra.
>
>He was hoping it would prevent him from rolling out of bed at the nursing home.

Maybe he should chew it, it might help him keep a stiffer lip.
J0hn Smith - 15 Jun 2006 05:02 GMT
> > > > (snip)
> > > >
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> batch of them turning 18 every year. Stiff horny cocks much nicer then
> yours are dime a dozen.

Kitty litter, then you either don't have a dime or you can't get one of the
stiff cock that is dime a dozen. I am stiffer than an 18 year old ;-) The
only men you can get need a ton of viagra.

> > > a sip of chardonnay on a nice breezy terrace. Or you can joke around
> > > and giggle with them as well.
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> Ewwww!
> What an insufferable twit.

So now you suffer in desire for me. Hahahahaha.
Casey - 14 Jun 2006 03:11 GMT
rj said
> (snip)
>
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> is that she's so much smarter than you.  <grin>  I'll bet she makes
> more than you do, too....

Methinks you are correct on both counts.

Casey
Kitty - 14 Jun 2006 05:44 GMT
>rj said
>> (snip)
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>
>Methinks you are correct on both counts.

awh, you guys are too kind to me here :D
John Smith - 14 Jun 2006 06:27 GMT
> rj said
> > (snip)
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>
> Casey

You think? That is news to me. Did you stop beating your wife yet?
siskiyou_sam@yahoo.com - 13 Jun 2006 00:18 GMT
> >> >> >I did that just the other day. Damn if there ain't some fine looking
> >> >> >(and acting) women all around me.
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> What matters more then chronological age is compatible health and
> lifestyles (and other relevant relationship compatibilities)

Recently a very attractive young woman, about your age, started a
romantic campaign to lure me into her goodies. And she was just my type
- right down to the big bright smile, large mammory glands, and blond
hair. And she was earnest too - that's what threw me.
But I escaped. I think I'd prefer an old bat closer to me in age. No
offense, I've run the phillies in my time - but now I ain't sure I
could keep up with a young one.
Now if I was a young man - I'd been all over her like bass on a june
bug.
Saw her recently with a young fellow in tow. She gave me a big ol' hug
(nice chest on that woman and she smells so good!) and introduced me to
her new beau. I am happy for her. Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy.

Sam
m-L - 13 Jun 2006 01:13 GMT
>But I escaped. I think I'd prefer an old bat closer to me in age. No
>offense, I've run the phillies in my time - but now I ain't sure I
>could keep up with a young one.

Hey, careful, sometimes old bats are harder to keep up with than the younger
ones. ;-)

i enjoyed your post, the wording is fun, it appears you might be a writer of
some sort.  

Anyway, i was reminded of an episode of "Norm" (damn, they always cancel the
funny shows!) where he states "You barren old monkeys are hot in the sack!"
Kitty - 13 Jun 2006 04:56 GMT
>>But I escaped. I think I'd prefer an old bat closer to me in age. No
>>offense, I've run the phillies in my time - but now I ain't sure I
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>Anyway, i was reminded of an episode of "Norm" (damn, they always cancel the
>funny shows!) where he states "You barren old monkeys are hot in the sack!"

yeah he does have something about him, doesn't he?

There was a comment about an actor I read, how that particular actor
is the epitome of a rugged intellectual - a thinking woman's sex
symbol, rather then them pretty boys of the likes of Johnny Depp or Di
Caprio.
The latter I call "just shut up and kiss me", former I'd actually want
a relationship with.
Xenos663 - 11 Jun 2006 11:39 GMT
> I did that just the other day. Damn if there ain't some fine looking
> (and acting) women all around me.
>
> Sam

" Acting ".
My ex was good at acting.
Look deeper.
Doug Laidlaw - 11 Jun 2006 06:45 GMT
> If you have a brain, then you know damn well that the U.S. is a society
> on a STEEP decline.
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> 2. Women will self-destruct
> 3. Children will become criminals and wards of the state.

Ho Hum...

1. Men will become almost irrelevant

You have managed that already -- without the "almost".

Doug L.
Signature

When we want to read of the deeds that are done for love, whither do we
turn?  To the murder column.
  - G.B. Shaw.

Troy - 15 Jun 2006 20:14 GMT
> > No-Nonsense Bottom Line
> >
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>
> You have managed that already -- without the "almost".

You wish that - because you're a pussified, reality-denying fool.  An
abject disgrace of a man, who loves his chains, and takes sadistic
pleasure in the suffering of other men.   Your defense of worthless,
vile women and of the matriarchy that is destroying society does not
make you noble or virtuous.  On the contrary, it makes you weak,
stupid, irrational, psychologically unbalanced, and utterly ignoble.
Rambler - 16 Jun 2006 17:28 GMT
>>>No-Nonsense Bottom Line
>>>
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> make you noble or virtuous.  On the contrary, it makes you weak,
> stupid, irrational, psychologically unbalanced, and utterly ignoble.

No no no ... tell us what you really think.

Rambler
Xenos663 - 11 Jun 2006 10:54 GMT
> If our society continues to tolerate the double standard that condones
> women and condemns men for identical behaviors, continues to offer
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>
> 1. Men will become almost irrelevant

Men will always be needed to fix stuff.
> 2. Women will self-destruct
How?
> 3. Children will become criminals and wards of the state.

They will learn and adapt.
My sons did adapt already.
" Every person is responsible for it's behavior regardless of gender ".
The new moral is not anymore gender biased.
It's also time not to blame " all " women for what some women or even
most women do.
The way I see it there are trend makers and trend breakers.
Most people are like a flock of sheep. Following who they think leads
the way.
Provide a better guidance and people will follow you.
Xenos663 - 11 Jun 2006 22:23 GMT
> Provide a better guidance and people will follow you.

This is not really true.
There are things that are more popular and things that a better.
They are often on opposed ends.

People tend to adapt.
Sometimes they revolt.
siskiyou_sam@yahoo.com - 11 Jun 2006 22:48 GMT
> > If our society continues to tolerate the double standard that condones
> > women and condemns men for identical behaviors, continues to offer
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>
> Men will always be needed to fix stuff.

He is projecting. HE is irrelevant. He's just one of those sissy
a.sholes that, in a better world, would have been eaten by a saber
tooth cat.

Sam

> > 2. Women will self-destruct
> How?
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> the way.
> Provide a better guidance and people will follow you.
robre - 13 Jun 2006 21:21 GMT
Wow!  I gotta stop in here more often.  Nice food fight!

robre
Kitty - 13 Jun 2006 21:29 GMT
> Wow!  I gotta stop in here more often.  Nice food fight!
>
> robre

Kitty pours some creamed spinach down the back of robre's and points:
Ewww, look what you've done!
robre - 14 Jun 2006 22:41 GMT
> > Wow!  I gotta stop in here more often.  Nice food fight!
> >
> > robre
>
> Kitty pours some creamed spinach down the back of robre's and points:
> Ewww, look what you've done!

Hey!  That was hot!
Kitty - 15 Jun 2006 01:25 GMT
> > > Wow!  I gotta stop in here more often.  Nice food fight!
> > >
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>
> Hey!  That was hot!

Goooey too.
 
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