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Another buttfuckin fostie bites the dust

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Charlie Chinaman - 07 Nov 2006 22:39 GMT
Sheesh - another buttfucker zero's in on 'troubled teens'.

Like robbers go to banks for money, buttfuckers go to CPS for boys. lol

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http://durangoherald.com/asp-bin/article_generation.asp?article_type=news&articl
e_path=/news/06/news061107_3.htm


Foster parent pleads guilty to sex assault
Man sentenced to 10 years to life

November 7, 2006
Herald Staff Report

Kenneth Charles "Ken!" Puhler, a Durango resident who trained adults who
worked with troubled teens and took in at least 130 foster children, has
pleaded guilty to sexual assault on a child in a position of trust.

Puhler, 50, formerly sheriff of Dolores County, pleaded guilty to one of 10
counts and was sentenced Nov. 1 to 10 years to life in prison, according to
court documents. If he is released, he will be placed on parole for 20 years
to life.

As part of the plea agreement, District Attorney Craig Westberg dropped the
other nine counts, which alleged abuse of children younger than 15 as far
back as 1993. In return, Puhler stipulated that he sexually abused a
14-year-old boy who was in his care as a foster child in February 2004, and
that "there were various times, both previous and subsequent to this event,
when the defendant had sexual contact" with the boy.

The stipulation also stated, "(T)he defendant was a foster parent and
responsible for (the boy's) general supervision and welfare; the defendant
was aware (the boy) had been removed from his former home by virtue of
previous sexual abuse."

Puhler must also pay $6,526 in restitution and other charges and must
register as a sex offender.

Puhler, who spelled his first name with an exclamation mark, worked as a
"prevention specialist" with the San Juan Basin Health Department, a
position in which he did not work directly with teens. He was a frequent
speaker on issues of teen suicide and sexuality. His work was featured in an
April 2003 Durango Herald story on teen depression.

A June 21 story in the Delta County Independent, published before Puhler's
arrest, said he and his wife had been foster parents to more than 130
children in the last 12 years.
Greegor - 09 Nov 2006 10:07 GMT
> the defendant was aware (the boy) had been removed from
> his former home by virtue of previous sexual abuse."

WHO do you s'pose told him that Ron?

They didn't make it clear of that home where he
was molested was a previous foster home or
a bio parent home.
0:-> - 09 Nov 2006 11:44 GMT
> > the defendant was aware (the boy) had been removed from
> > his former home by virtue of previous sexual abuse."
>
> WHO do you s'pose told him that Ron?

I don't see Ron's post to the thread. This makes the above appear to be
something Ron said and you are quoting. It's not. It's just a like from
the news article.

Now that we have the context a bit more in hand (R R R R ...what a
stupid desperate pissant you are, Greg) let's move on to your brilliant
presumptions.

> They didn't make it clear of that home where he
> was molested was a previous foster home or
> a bio parent home.

"They" being CPS that placed the boy, or the media reporter relating
the story?

You don't know if they said one way or the other if the boy had been in
a previous foster home or bio parent home.

Now for the final assininity of your post.....what possible difference
does that make to the victimization of this child, or to the fact CPS
likely is the one that caught this creep, eh?

It proves that workers are as available to, no MORESO, to children in
foster care than the general population.

This supports both my contention that sexual abuse is underreported,
and that foster parents, as opposed to bio parents, are far more easily
caught at abuse and thus more countable in data.

Having a nice morning are we, Greg?

You've got your little weasel running shoes on and going for all you
are worth today.

You immediately attack newcomers here, and you complain that we old
timers expose you to them for the little thuggish vampire you really
are.

R R R  R R R R

Tough luck, sap.

We PROVE what you are with your own posts. YOU, on the other hand
accuse and speculate without putting up any proof at all when
challenged to.

Why is that Greg? Could it be you are a liar, AND a little pissant
thug?

Kane
Greegor - 09 Nov 2006 22:49 GMT
Could you stick to the subject Kane?  Another BUFU fostie bites the dust
0:-> - 10 Nov 2006 04:23 GMT
> Could you stick to the subject Kane?  Another BUFU fostie bites the dust

Here's my post just prior to your comment above. Please explain what is
not on the subject, Greg.

.......................
>> > > the defendant was aware (the boy) had been removed from
>> > > his former home by virtue of previous sexual abuse."
> >
> > WHO do you s'pose told him that Ron?

I don't see Ron's post to the thread. This makes the above appear to be
something Ron said and you are quoting. It's not. It's just a like from
the news article.

Now that we have the context a bit more in hand (R R R R ...what a
stupid desperate pissant you are, Greg) let's move on to your brilliant
presumptions.

> > They didn't make it clear of that home where he
> > was molested was a previous foster home or
> > a bio parent home.

"They" being CPS that placed the boy, or the media reporter relating
the story?

You don't know if they said one way or the other if the boy had been in
a previous foster home or bio parent home.

Now for the final assininity of your post.....what possible difference
does that make to the victimization of this child, or to the fact CPS
likely is the one that caught this creep, eh?

It proves that workers are as available to, no MORESO, to children in
foster care than the general population.

This supports both my contention that sexual abuse is underreported,
and that foster parents, as opposed to bio parents, are far more easily
caught at abuse and thus more countable in data.

Having a nice morning are we, Greg?

You've got your little weasel running shoes on and going for all you
are worth today.

You immediately attack newcomers here, and you complain that we old
timers expose you to them for the little thuggish vampire you really
are.

R R R  R R R R

Tough luck, sap.

We PROVE what you are with your own posts. YOU, on the other hand
accuse and speculate without putting up any proof at all when
challenged to.

Why is that Greg? Could it be you are a liar, AND a little pissant
thug?

Kane
......................
Greegor - 10 Nov 2006 10:16 GMT
What's the usual prison time for people who BUFU kids?
Are Fosters who get caught at this stuff getting lighter than average
sentences?
If they BUFU one kid thousands of times can they get life with no
parole?

Do these pederasts stop when they are 80 years old?
Do molesters in general stop when they get elderly?
Dan Sullivan - 10 Nov 2006 13:34 GMT
> What's the usual prison time for people who BUFU kids?

Just pack an extra pair of socks, Greg.

And white underwear.

No stripes.

> Are Fosters who get caught at this stuff getting lighter than average
> sentences?

You gonna claim you were a foster parent?

> If they BUFU one kid thousands of times can they get life with no
> parole?

Spent a lot of time thinking about that, Greg?

> Do these pederasts stop when they are 80 years old?

You won't live that long, Greg.

> Do molesters in general stop when they get elderly?

Are you looking for a specific age so you can ask to be released then?
0:-> - 10 Nov 2006 19:29 GMT
> What's the usual prison time for people who BUFU kids?

Go find out.

> Are Fosters who get caught at this stuff getting lighter than average
> sentences?

Do you think so? If so prove it.

> If they BUFU one kid thousands of times can they get life with no
> parole?

Who knows. Go find out.

> Do these pederasts stop when they are 80 years old?

Go find out.

> Do molesters in general stop when they get elderly?

Go find out.

Stop asking rhetorical questions to no purpose but to evade, Greg.
Greegor - 11 Nov 2006 23:52 GMT
In a thread titled     Another BUFU fostie bites the dust

Greg wrote
> Do these pederasts stop when they are 80 years old?
> Do molesters in general stop when they get elderly?

Kane wrote
> Go find out.
> Stop asking rhetorical questions to no purpose but to evade, Greg.

See thread title.
Not rhetorical questions.
No attempt to evade the BUFU Fostie issue.
0:-> - 12 Nov 2006 02:33 GMT
> In a thread titled     Another BUFU fostie bites the dust
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> See thread title.

How does that negate asking you to go find out yourself?.

> Not rhetorical questions.

You are wrong. You are avoiding the definition of a rhetorical
question.

"adj 1: of or relating to rhetoric; "accepted two or three verbal and
rhetorical changes I suggested"- W.A.White; "the rhetorical sin of the
meaningless variation"- Lewis Mumford 2: concerned with effect or style
of writing and speaking; "a rhetorical question is one asked solely to
produce an effect (especially to make an assertion) rather than to
elicit a reply"

You are attempting to pontificate by questioning in the form you ask
the question, as the assumption is plain that you are making.

What is the point of asking: "Do these pederasts stop when they are 80
years old?
Do molesters in general stop when they get elderly?" other than to
suggest the answer you want, that they don't.

This is typical of you evasive and "answer in the question" rhetorical
questions, Greg.

Nothing wrong with doing so, but there is in denying you are doing so.
Rhetorical questions used properly have valid and acceptable uses in
debate.

> No attempt to evade the BUFU Fostie issue.

Didn't say you were, Greg, and you know it.

The "BUFU Fostie" by your joining in on it, while running from other
subject threads is the issue.

It's time you answered for your accusations and your dangrous advice.

Do so now, or live with the consequences. NO other subject is
acceptable for you to engage in here until you respond on your lies,
evasions, and flat out bullshit.

Not to me, at any rate. And I'll continue to make that plain.

Prove Dan committed a felony as you claim.

PROVE IT WITH LEGAL STATUTE, the only way it can be proved.

Defend your position on someone revealing to the court they have
committed a crime (stop defending the crime...that won't work as
evasion or in any other way...we aren't debating it rightness or
wrongness morally, we are debating the danger to the women) to
challenge the law while in the middle of another case, where she could
lose her children.

Do the program, Greg. Stop making these kind so outlandish, stupid,
irrational and lying statements and figuring you can simply then walk
away from them as those your challengers don't exist.

Don't post here if you don't want to be challenged.

YOU AND I both have free speech. Your to spout bullshit all you wish,
and ours to challenge your bullshit all we wish.

Got that? Good.

There are two easy ways out for you. Admit your error and apologize and
withdraw your claims on both issues.....and do so directly to the
people involved.

Easy eh? A man could do it instantly. Even Doug has done it on small
errors.

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Greegor - 13 Nov 2006 07:53 GMT
OFF TOPIC drivel by Kane moved to a thread called
Dan's credibility concerning his computer FELONY
alt.support.child-protective-services, alt.parenting.spanking,
alt.support.foster-parents

Kane wrote
> NO other subject [Dan's computer break in] is acceptable
> for you to engage in here until you respond

Another BUFU fostie bites the dust is the subject in this message
thread.
0:-> - 13 Nov 2006 17:35 GMT
> OFF TOPIC drivel by Kane moved to a thread called
> Dan's credibility concerning his computer FELONY
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Another BUFU fostie bites the dust is the subject in this message
> thread.

You were the first to go off topic in this thread, Greg.

You just don't like OTHERS to do it when you are the subject.

YOU, for instance, went off topic when Dan posted your commentary on
using an illegal act to tryin and fight a CPS case.

Instead of dealing with the issue, you quickly switched to the
process...how he might have gotten your bullshit commentary and
dangerous advice.

Notice YOUR changes of topic, Greg.

That's what gives us license to keep dragging you back by the scruff of
your scruffy little neck to the subjects YOU bring up in the first
place.

This isn't about BUFU.

It's about you trying to use every possible dodge to avoid answering
for what you told that women to do.

Keep dodging. It's wonderfully entertaining.

But not successful.

We SEE what you are.

No one can miss it.

And those that use you LOVE that you do such things because it
indicates you are still dishonest and available for their dishonesty
peddling.

You are their 'venue,' stupid.

You told someone to reveal their crime in court in the middle of a
child protection case that could likely result in her arrest, and the
loss of her case.

Admit to it. Correct it, and get on with life.

Nothing less will suffice here, unless of course you can show us how
this action you suggest had a chance in hell of getting her her
children back.

Go for it.

Truth and dare.

I DARE you to correct your mistake, Greg.

0:-]
Picadilli Phil - 13 Nov 2006 17:44 GMT
>> OFF TOPIC drivel by Kane moved to a thread called
>> Dan's credibility concerning his computer FELONY
[quoted text clipped - 59 lines]
>
> I DARE you to correct your mistake, Greg.

My God man - take a pill!! You're gonna blow a gasket Butch.

> 0:-]
Greegor - 13 Nov 2006 22:41 GMT
Kane posted OFF TOPIC, nothing about     Another BUFU fostie bites the
dust
Answer moved to the thread about Dan where it belongs.
0:-> - 13 Nov 2006 23:42 GMT
> Kane posted OFF TOPIC, nothing about     Another BUFU fostie bites the
> dust
> Answer moved to the thread about Dan where it belongs.

Cite your answer. You are lying. You did not answer in that thread.

0:->

You are just avoiding.
Greegor - 14 Nov 2006 11:45 GMT
On the application form do they ask em if they do BUFU?
0:-> - 14 Nov 2006 15:49 GMT
> On the application form do they ask em if they do BUFU?

Not that I recall. But then you'd have to ask one of the families I
helped to get their relatives into foster care with them, or adopt
them.

>From what they told me, gay or straight, they were subjected to long
long interviews by a CPS worker, and their sexual orientation and
sexual practices were in fact discussed.

Next question.

0:->
Greegor - 03 Dec 2006 13:33 GMT
> > On the application form do they ask em if they do BUFU?
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> long interviews by a CPS worker, and their sexual orientation and
> sexual practices were in fact discussed.

And you don't know WHY, right??   <grin>

> Next question.
>
> 0:->
0:-> - 03 Dec 2006 15:29 GMT
> > > On the application form do they ask em if they do BUFU?
> >
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> And you don't know WHY, right??   <grin>

Sure I do. It's standard for all applicants, gay or straight.

Now wipe that silly grin off your face and join us in the real world.

Your delusions will get you in trouble one day.

0:-]

> > Next question.
> >
> > 0:->
 
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