Nothing could please the American people more than seeing the three stooges
[George, Dick, and Don] doin the perpwalk for the internationl criminal
court.
Where's Rush when ya need him??
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Rumsfeld faces renewed war crimes claims
Mark Tran
Tuesday November 14, 2006
Guardian Unlimited
A US-based civil rights group today asked German prosecutors to take legal
action against the former US secretary of defence Donald Rumsfeld for war
crimes.
The Centre for Constitutional Rights (CCR) lodged a complaint with the
German federal prosecutor urging investigations of Mr Rumsfeld, who resigned
last week, and other former US officials over alleged abuses in Iraq and at
Guantánamo Bay.
Under a law enacted by Germany when the international criminal court was
created in 2002, the federal prosecutor can investigate and prosecute war
crimes regardless of where they are committed or of the nationality of the
perpetrators.
The prosecutor dismissed a similar case brought by the CCR in 2004. But the
CCR, backed by other civil rights groups, said new evidence, including
signed memos, had now strengthened its case. It added that the former US
brigadier general Janis Karpinski, a defendant in the earlier complaint as
the commanding officer at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq, was now providing
testimony on behalf of the plaintiffs.
Ms Karpinski, who was relieved of her command and demoted to the rank of
colonel last year, said her superiors had encouraged cruel treatment -
though she denied having known about the abuses herself at the time.
In order to conceal what was going on at Abu Ghraib, those in charge of the
prison had increased the scale of the abuses "incrementally over time", Col
Karpinski said at a news conference alongside the lawyers backing the case.
She told Reuters Television: "When I look back at it now, when I see the
footage, when I see the Iraqi people, I see a loss of hope in their faces. I
see desperation in their faces, and I know that we in many ways contributed
to this situation."
Mr Rumsfeld's resignation, on November 8, meant he could no longer claim the
immunity sovereign officials enjoyed from international prosecution for war
crimes, the CCR said.
The suit is brought on behalf of 12 alleged torture victims - 11 Iraqis held
at Abu Ghraib and Mohamad al-Qahtani, a Saudi held at Guantánamo whom the US
has identified as a would-be participant in the September 11 attacks.
"None of these plaintiffs - and the hundreds of other detainees subjected to
similar abuses - has seen justice," the 220-page complaint said, "and none
of those who authorised these techniques at the top of the chain of command
have been held liable for it, or even seriously and independently
investigated."
The CCR said Mr Qahtani had been subjected to 50 days of severe sleep
deprivation, 20-hour interrogations, forced nudity, sexual and religious
humiliation and physical force, including being made to adopt stress
positions for long periods.
Besides Mr Rumsfeld, the action names the US attorney general, Alberto
Gonzales, the former CIA director George Tenet, the former commander of all
US forces in Iraq, Lieutenant General Ricardo Sanchez, and eight others. It
alleges they ordered, aided or failed to prevent war crimes.
A case could not be brought with the international criminal court because
the US was not a member, the CCR said; neither could it be pursued through
the UN, because the US had power of veto.
The CCR also said the military commissions act of 2006, signed by George
Bush, provided immunity for US officials and military personnel from
prosecution for international crimes.
Wolfgang Kaleck, the German attorney leading the attempted litigation, said
the suit's backers would appeal if prosecutors refuse to take up the case,
and raised the prospect of further attempts in other European countries.
The Pentagon and the German federal prosecutor's office declined to comment,
saying they had not yet received the suit.
0:-> - 14 Nov 2006 19:59 GMT
> Nothing could please the American people more than seeing the three stooges
> [George, Dick, and Don] doin the perpwalk for the internationl criminal
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> The Pentagon and the German federal prosecutor's office declined to comment,
> saying they had not yet received the suit.
Any of them have their heads cut off on Video, dumb Troll?
Drilled with power-tools and dumped at the side of the road?
How did you get to be such a traitor?
Do you think those that were responsible for 9/11 should be simply let
go to encourage them to do something similar again?
0:->
George Truro - 15 Nov 2006 00:40 GMT
>> Nothing could please the American people more than seeing the three
>> stooges [George, Dick, and Don] doin the perpwalk for the internationl
[quoted text clipped - 83 lines]
>
> Any of them have their heads cut off on Video, dumb Troll?
Is having your head cut off on video mo better than having your head blown
off in obscurity ?
CIA made those videos anyhow to serve up to you ridiculous ditto heads to
parrot all over the land.
> Drilled with power-tools and dumped at the side of the road?
America the Beautiful has a long history of using torture - I believe they
use power tools in the 'secret' CIA gulags, but of course it's secret. lol.
> How did you get to be such a traitor?
Your knee jerk patriotism suits you fine - especially the 'jerk' part.
> Do you think those that were responsible for 9/11 should be simply let go
> to encourage them to do something similar again?
Who was responsible for 9/11 - got any evidence besides yo government told
you so ??
Phoney 'Osama' tapes?? hahaha
Arabs and pancakes. hahahahaha
You a.sholes crack me up. lol..
> 0:->
Ron - 15 Nov 2006 01:27 GMT
>>> Nothing could please the American people more than seeing the three
>>> stooges [George, Dick, and Don] doin the perpwalk for the internationl
[quoted text clipped - 105 lines]
> Who was responsible for 9/11 - got any evidence besides yo government told
> you so ??
Where is your proof that it was anyone else?
> Phoney 'Osama' tapes?? hahaha
Phony? Please, show us where the evidence is that supports that position.
After all, you can't even spell so I guess we should not expect much from
you, right?
> Arabs and pancakes. hahahahaha
More like Trolls and pancakes. You might want to smell what you are
shoveling.
> You a.sholes crack me up. lol..
Name calling is the refuge of the ignorant. If you cant make a valid
argument you resort to childish names. Figures.
Ron
George Truro - 15 Nov 2006 01:57 GMT
>>>> Nothing could please the American people more than seeing the three
>>>> stooges [George, Dick, and Don] doin the perpwalk for the internationl
[quoted text clipped - 108 lines]
>
> Where is your proof that it was anyone else?
You mean evidence - right dimbulb? Here ya go -
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501
Start with Loose Change
Then move on in any direction you choose.
http://st911.org/
>> Phoney 'Osama' tapes?? hahaha
>
> Phony? Please, show us where the evidence is that supports that position.
> After all, you can't even spell so I guess we should not expect much from
> you, right?
There is no evidence that ANY of the Osama tapes after 9/11 are authentic.
>> Arabs and pancakes. hahahahaha
>
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> Name calling is the refuge of the ignorant. If you cant make a valid
> argument you resort to childish names. Figures.
Pretend to watch the evidence - then come back and tell me how its all a
crock of sh.t by a bunch of idiots with issues bla,blab,bla - like a good
little NaziBoy. hehehe -
> Ron
Ron - 23 Dec 2006 05:22 GMT
>>>> Nothing could please the American people more than seeing the three
> >>>> stooges [George, Dick, and Don] doin the perpwalk for the internationl
[quoted text clipped - 118 lines]
>
> http://st911.org/
Been there, done that. I could drive a car through the holes those
idiots have in their theories. They could handle as much traffic as
the Holland Tunnel.
> >> Phoney 'Osama' tapes?? hahaha
> >
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> There is no evidence that ANY of the Osama tapes after 9/11 are authentic.
And none that they are not. Please, try and provide something to
support your claims.
> >> Arabs and pancakes. hahahahaha
> >
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> crock of sh.t by a bunch of idiots with issues bla,blab,bla - like a good
> little NaziBoy. hehehe -
I would, except that there IS no evidence. Far fetched theories and
conspiracy nuts only, and only dimwits like yourself are actually going
to buy into it. And you have been buying into it for 5 years now!
Just how much of that sh.t sandwich are you going to eat anyway?
Ron