Family Forum / Parenting / Children's Health / October 2005

So would you rather die from tetanus?

PF

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Scare tactics.  Please....I will NEVER get vaccinated again. And I refuse
to go to any doctors. If I land up with cancer, I will die not knowing!

"Tetanus is a very rare disease in developed countries: there are only about
12 cases of tetanus per year in Australia, and half of those who got it were
vaccinated. Perhaps the most interesting thing about tetanus is that those
who get it do not develop immunity to it.........Far from immunising,
tetanus (and other) vaccine injections make the recipients more susceptible
to diseases. ......the New England Journal of Medicine published in 1984
that tetanus booster injections result in the same derangement of T4 and T8
cells as seen in AIDS patients. A 'mysterious' new syndrome emerged in the
US: thousands of children are developing AIDS symptoms (with deranged T4 and
T8 cells) without being HIV positive My well-considered opinion is that it
comes from that T (standing for tetanus) in the DPT vaccine."---Viera
Scheibner http://www.whale.to/vaccines/tetanus.html

by "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> Oct 22, 2005 at 01:07 PM

I am not questioning that there are risks in vaccination. There is
nothing

that we can do that doesn't have risks. You have to weigh the risks and
the
benefits. The benefits of vaccines far outweigh the risks.

Jeff

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Jeff have you read this article:

Tetanus Vaccination by Dr Mendelsohn MD (The Peoples Doctor Newsletter
1976-1988)

1) Scientific evidence shows that toofrequent tetanus boosters actually
may interfere with the immune reaction.

5) Until the last few years, government statistics admitted that 40
percent
of the child population of the U.S. was not immunized. For all those
decades, where were the tetanus cases from all those rusty nails?

In preparing my courtroom testimony on behalf of a child who allegedly
was
braindamaged as a result of the DPT (diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus)
vaccine, I reviewed the prescribing information (package insert) for the
Connaught Laboratories product which was administered to this child. The
1975 and.1977 package insert information which measured sevenandahalf
inches long listed three scientific references in support of the
indications, contraindications, warnings, cautions, and adverse reactions
to this vaccine. By 1978, the length of the insert had grown to 13 1/2
inches, and the number of scientific references had increased to 11. By
1980, the package insert was 18 inches long, and the references numbered
14. Of those newlyadded references, seven (three from U.S. medical
journals and four from foreign medical journals) dealt specifically with
reactions to the tetanus DPT portion of the (toxoid) vaccine.

Should your doctor reassure you that tetanus vaccine is completely safe,
or
that "the benefits outweigh the risks," or that you should have a shot
"just in case," why not share these citations with him?

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<http://click.egroups.com/1/2796/7/_/9021/_/955529806/>

My friend who was a pediatric neurologist at the time recalls vividly
how he watched his now 20 year old son become so brain damaged from this
now vaccine preventable disease that he left practice for two years and
is now doing general pediatrics. If a parent refuses vaccinating their
child, they are told to find another doctor.

Compared to how many die from the actual disease?

Please tell us which vaccine on the present pediatric schedule is more
dangerous than the actual disease?  Include all your references.

Keep in mind that tetanus kills about about half a million infants and young
children per year:
http://www.mailtribune.com/archive/2005/1022/local/stories/07local.htm
(from:
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=tetanus&btnG=Search+News )

and that measles is still a leading killer of children:
http://www.measlesinitiative.org/index3.asp

and that polio keeps coming back:
http://wcco.com/health/local_story_294100014.html  (also from:
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&ie=UTF-8&q=polio&btnG=Search+News )

Just like pertussis (which really likes killing babies):
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&ie=UTF-8&q=pertussis&btnG=Search+News

All you have is one baby who was in foster care and possibly born with
health issues to begin with...  Please, please answer the question.

Father held in toddler's death...

http://www.northjersey.com/page.php?qstr=eXJpcnk3ZjczN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXkzJmZnYmVsN2Y
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Saturday, October 22, 2005

By EMAN VAROQUA and DOUGLASS CROUSE
STAFF WRITERS

For 14-month-old Jeremy Celentano, nearly every day of life was a struggle.

Born addicted to cocaine and heroin, he was cared for in foster homes for
the first year of his life as he recovered from the drugs. Friends hoped his
fortunes would change for the better after his father won custody in July.

Instead, Jeremy is dead - beaten so brutally his skull was split. And
charged with murder is his father, Darren Celentano of Paterson, described
by authorities as a hardworking, steadfast man who apparently exploded in
rage under the pressures of parenthood.
Meanwhile, the boy's death has prompted yet another internal review at the
state Division of Youth and Family Services, which had been monitoring him.
A DYFS official contended Friday that his agency had argued against the boy
being turned over to his father.
Celentano, 28, of Grand Street, is under suicide watch at St. Mary's
Hospital in Passaic, Passaic County Prosecutor James Avigliano said Friday.
He was arrested late Thursday, and Avigliano said Celentano gave authorities
a confession on videotape.
Jeremy, suffering from several physical ailments, would not stop crying on
Monday, police said Celentano told them. The father lost his temper, police
said, and allegedly pounded the boy with closed fists until he stopped
breathing.
Jeremy suffered a fracture across the top of the skull, and a smaller one in
the back of his head. He also had bruises and cuts on his face and head,
including a black eye, according to the prosecutor.
"The father completely lost it," said Avigliano, visibly upset by the
autopsy photos. "He just went berserk."
Instead of dialing 911, Celentano initially called his mother, who had
routinely helped him care for the boy, and told her what he had done,
Avigliano said. Celentano then brought Jeremy's lifeless body to St.
Joseph's Regional Medical Center in Paterson, the prosecutor continued, and
the staff there called authorities on Tuesday morning. Avigliano declined to
say how long the boy had been dead before he was brought to the hospital, or
what the circumstances were surrounding his arrival at St. Joseph's.
Celentano was remorseful, Avigliano said, and his distraught behavior during
and after his statement prompted authorities to make sure he was placed at
St. Mary's for observation.
Little is known about Jeremy's mother, whose name has not been released.
Authorities said she was a drug addict, and because of her severe addiction
Jeremy had been turned over for state care at birth. But Darren Celentano
petitioned the family court for custody several months ago.
He won his case on July 26 when a state judge in Paterson turned the boy
over to him. Those court records remained sealed on Friday. Leah Bourne, the
attorney who represented Jeremy's mother in family court, declined to
comment Friday, saying only, "I'm sorry. We can't help you."
Darren Celentano could be arraigned on a charge of murder as early as
Monday, authorities said. If found guilty, he would face 30 years to life in
prison. Celentano has had no past run-ins with the law, according to state
criminal records.
Because the boy had been under DYFS care, Andy Williams, a spokesman for the
state Department of Human Services, said the child welfare agency will do
its own review of his death.
DYFS records show, Williams said, that the state did not want Jeremy turned
over to his father, but it lost that bid in court. Williams said the agency
"didn't feel he was ready" to care for Jeremy, who had been in foster homes
for medically fragile children.
"Our long-term goal was to reunify the child with the father," Williams
said. "But we didn't feel he was ready to handle the child alone."
He said DYFS asked that the father undergo a psychiatric evaluation, but
that the court felt otherwise, given Celentano's upstanding background.
Celentano was receiving a monthly stipend to care for Jeremy as well as some
in-home care services. Since the summer, DYFS workers said, they had visited
once a month and reported nothing irregular. Sept. 12 was the last in-home
visit. Jeremy died before an October visit was scheduled.
Jeremy's death follows several recent reports urging further change in the
way the state cares for at-risk children.
DYFS came under fire in January 2003 when the body of 7-year-old Faheem
Williams, whose family was under the agency's supervision, was discovered in
Newark. A state report later found that nearly a year before his body was
found in a basement, a DYFS caseworker and her supervisor closed his case
without making contact with him. The caseworker had more than 100 children
under her care.
The Williams case accelerated an overhaul of child welfare, including the
state's pledge to lower caseloads by hiring more workers, improving training
and revamping the way cases are managed and closed. But just this week in a
report, advocates said more work needs to be done.
Neighbors and friends described Celentano as a quiet, considerate man who
worked long hours. At one point, he told them he was working two jobs, but
did not talk about his work, the neighbors said.
Jeremy's mother would show up at the Grand Street apartment building where
she used to live with Celentano. Just Saturday, she stopped by the
Laundromat next door to leave two plastic bags full of shoes, jeans and
other items, said Gregorio Sanchez, a Laundromat employee and friend of
Celentano's. Neighbors did not know her name.
"She left them here with me and said she'd come back in an hour, but she
never did," Sanchez said.
Sanchez and others said she and Celentano separated several months ago.
Celentano's landlady, who asked that her name not be published, described an
ideal tenant who seldom made noise, paid his rent punctually and kept a tidy
living space.
In the period between having dropped his son off at the hospital and his
eventual arrest, Celentano apparently returned home.
"He was so upset when he came down to the Laundromat to talk to me that
night," his landlady said. "He said, 'My baby died today and I just can't
cry anymore.' He seemed very depressed."
She said news that Celentano had been charged with the boy's death was hard
to fathom. To those who knew him, Celentano seemed to relish fatherhood:
Often he took his son for rides in his red Ford Explorer or played with him
outside the apartment building, neighbors said.
"You don't know how happy he was when he got custody from the court," the
landlady said.
But Avigliano said Celentano found himself alone and overwhelmed.
"He was trying to do what he later found was impossible for him," Avigliano
said.
E-mail: varoqua@northjersey.com

true.

I posted two articles which are somewhat different.