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Is Swine Flu Vaccination Mandatory?

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(¯`·.¸ + In hoc signo vinces + ¸.·´¯) - 19 Sep 2009 01:47 GMT
The Washington Post confirmed today that the swine flu vaccine, which is set
to be rolled out nationwide this fall in what some fear could ultimately
become a mandatory vaccination program, will contain mercury, a toxin linked
with autism and neurological disorders.

Claims by the CDC and the Institute of Medicine, following a whitewash study
that ignored previously verified evidence, that thimerosal, a mercury based
preservative, has no causal relationship to skyrocketing cases of autism
have been soundly rejected by top doctors and scientists ever since.

Epidemiologist Tom Verstraeten and Dr. Richard Johnston, an immunologist and
pediatrician from the University of Colorado, both concluded that thimerosal
was responsible for the dramatic rise in cases of autism but their findings
were dismissed by the CDC.

Cases of autism in the U.S. have increased by 1,500 per cent since 1991,
which is when vaccines for children doubled, and the number of immunizations
is only increasing. Just one in 2,500 children were diagnosed with autism
before 1991, whereas one in 166 children now have the disease.

A peer reviewed study by Dr. Mark Geier which appeared in the Journal of
American Physicians and Surgeons showed that the IOM research was flawed
because it was largely based on a Danish study by Anders Peter Hviid, which
did not account for the fact that American children have a much higher
mercury burden than children in Denmark.

"At the high levels (of thimerosal exposure), it is undeniable there is a
causal relationship, and we have gone to high levels. Their studies,
therefore are not relevant, I am not saying they are wrong, although there
are many criticisms of it. It is just not relative to the US situation,"
said Geier.

Geier's study concludes that there is an increase of neurodevelopment
disorders following the use of thimerosal containing vaccines.
Mark Probert - 19 Sep 2009 02:44 GMT
On Sep 18, 8:47 pm, "\(¯`·.¸ + In hoc signo vinces + ¸.·´¯\)"
<nob...@mixmaster.it> wrote:
> The Washington Post confirmed today that the swine flu vaccine, which is set
> to be rolled out nationwide this fall in what some fear could ultimately
> become a mandatory vaccination program, will contain mercury, a toxin linked
> with autism and neurological disorders.

Only by those who do not understand science.

> Claims by the CDC and the Institute of Medicine, following a whitewash study
> that ignored previously verified evidence, that thimerosal, a mercury based
> preservative, has no causal relationship to skyrocketing cases of autism
> have been soundly rejected by top doctors and scientists ever since.

That would be "doctors" and "scientists" who are on top of the dung
heap.

> Epidemiologist Tom Verstraeten and Dr. Richard Johnston, an immunologist and
> pediatrician from the University of Colorado, both concluded that thimerosal
> was responsible for the dramatic rise in cases of autism but their findings
> were dismissed by the CDC.

Using bogus information.

> Cases of autism in the U.S. have increased by 1,500 per cent since 1991,
> which is when vaccines for children doubled, and the number of immunizations
> is only increasing. Just one in 2,500 children were diagnosed with autism
> before 1991, whereas one in 166 children now have the disease.

Diagnostic reassignment, expansion of diagnosis, and IDEA...

> A peer reviewed study by Dr. Mark Geier which appeared in the Journal of
> American Physicians and Surgeons

There is NO peer review in this journal, other than having the
authors' check clear.

showed that the IOM research was flawed
> because it was largely based on a Danish study by Anders Peter Hviid, which
> did not account for the fact that American children have a much higher
> mercury burden than children in Denmark.

Which is untrue.

> "At the high levels (of thimerosal exposure), it is undeniable there is a
> causal relationship, and we have gone to high levels. Their studies,
> therefore are not relevant, I am not saying they are wrong, although there
> are many criticisms of it. It is just not relative to the US situation,"
> said Geier.

Geier has been rejected by the courts as an expert. He is a has been,
or, better, a never was.

> Geier's study concludes that there is an increase of neurodevelopment
> disorders following the use of thimerosal containing vaccines.

You like reading fiction?
Rich Ulrich - 19 Sep 2009 06:53 GMT
On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 10:47:09 +1000, "\(¯`·.¸ + In hoc signo vinces +
¸.·´¯\)" <nobody@mixmaster.it> wrote:

>The Washington Post confirmed today that the swine flu vaccine, which is set
>to be rolled out nationwide this fall in what some fear could ultimately
>become a mandatory vaccination program,

[snip, rest, which has been discredited by the intro ...]]

Washington Post?  The U.S. and mandatory flu vaccines?

- Is that a totally ignorant and stupid way to start a message,
or is it only totally paranoid?

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Mark Probert - 20 Sep 2009 00:57 GMT
> On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 10:47:09 +1000, "\(¯`·.¸ + In hoc signo vinces +
>
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>  - Is that a totally ignorant and stupid way to start a message,
> or is it only totally paranoid?

Rich, it can be totally ignorant, stupid and totally paranoid all at
the same time. Most anti-vax conspiracy crap does that quite well.

> --
> Rich Ulrich
Brian Gaff - 19 Sep 2009 12:54 GMT
I do not see that anyone is going to force you to have it, honestly.
Brian

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> The Washington Post confirmed today that the swine flu vaccine, which is
> set to be rolled out nationwide this fall in what some fear could
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> Geier's study concludes that there is an increase of neurodevelopment
> disorders following the use of thimerosal containing vaccines.
 
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