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"It's all legal & fun —"  Uzi submachine gun

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Ic - 29 Oct 2008 01:01 GMT
Boy, 8, fatally shoots self with Uzi at gun show
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hl-VtQImXVuBfNXTpNMvOgFOxj2wD9439PRO0
Furrotown Road in Westfield, Mass., on Monday, Oct. 27, 2008.
Christopher Bizilj ,8,of Ashford, Conn. died after accidentally
shooting himself in the head while firing an Uzi submachine gun at a
gun fair held on the premises on Sun. Oct. 26, 2008.

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WESTFIELD, Mass. (AP) — With an instructor watching, an 8-year-old boy
at a gun fair aimed an Uzi at a pumpkin and pulled the trigger as his
dad reached for a camera.

It was his first time shooting a fully automatic machine gun, and the
recoil of the weapon was too much for him. He lost control and fatally
shot himself in the head.

Now gun safety experts — and some gun enthusiasts at the club where
the shooting happened — are wondering why such a young child was
allowed to fire a weapon used in war. Local, state and federal
authorities are also investigating whether everyone involved had
proper licenses or if anyone committed a criminal act.

"It's easy to lose control of a weapon like that ... they are used on
a battleground for a very good reason," said Jerry Belair, a spokesman
for Stop Handgun Violence, based in Newton, Mass. "It's to shoot as
many times as you possibly can without having to reload at an enemy
that's approaching. It's not a toy. It's not something to play with."

Police said Christopher Bizilj (Bah-SEAL) of Ashford, Conn., was
pronounced dead at Baystate Medical Center in Springfield, Mass., on
Sunday afternoon, shortly after firing a 9mm micro Uzi submachine gun
at the Machine Gun Shoot and Firearms Expo at the Westfield
Sportsman's Club, co-sponsored by C.O.P. Firearms & Training.

"The weapon was loaded and ready to fire," Westfield police Lt.
Hipolito Nunez said. "The 8-year-old victim had the Uzi and as he was
firing the weapon, the front end of the weapon went up with the
backfire and he ended up receiving a round in his head."

Nunez said the investigation is continuing.

Christopher, a third-grader, was attending the show with his father
and sixth-grade brother, Colin. Christopher had fired handguns and
rifles before, but Sunday was his first time firing an automatic
weapon, said his father, Charles Bizilj.

Bizilj told the Boston Globe he was about 10 feet behind his son and
reaching for his camera when the weapon fired. He said his family
avoided the larger weapons, but he let his son try the Uzi because
it's a small weapon with little recoil.

"This accident was truly a mystery to me," said Bizilj, director of
emergency medicine at Johnson Memorial Hospital in Stafford, Conn.
"This is a horrible event, a horrible travesty, and I really don't
know why it happened."

Police are calling the shooting an accident but are investigating
whether everyone connected with the incident had proper weapons
permits. Massachusetts requires licenses to own firearms, and the
federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives issues
different licenses to possess machine guns.

The machine gun shoot drew hundreds of people from as far away as
Maine and Virginia. An advertisement said it would include machine gun
demonstrations and rentals and free handgun lessons.

"It's all legal & fun — No permits or licenses required!!!!" reads the
ad, posted on the club's Web site.

"You will be accompanied to the firing line with a Certified
Instructor to guide you. But You Are In Control — "FULL AUTO ROCK &
ROLL," the ad said.

The ad also said children under 16 would be admitted free, and both
adults and children were offered free .22-caliber pistol and rifle
shooting.

Massachusetts has some of the strictest gun laws in the nation. It is
legal in Massachusetts for children to fire a weapon if they have
permission from a parent or legal guardian and they are supervised by
a properly certified and licensed instructor, Nunez said. The name of
the instructor who was with the boy at the time was not released.

"We do not know at this time the full facts of this incident," Nunez
said Monday.
Associated Press
Ken Marino - 29 Oct 2008 04:39 GMT
> Boy, 8, fatally shoots self with Uzi at gun show
> http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hl-VtQImXVuBfNXTpNMvOgFOxj2wD9439PRO0
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> said Monday.
> Associated Press

Only one law was broken here. The law that allowed the father of an 8
year old to live, when that father was stupid enough ti put an uzi in the
hands of an 8 year old.
SrRojo - 29 Oct 2008 05:41 GMT
> > Boy, 8, fatally shoots self with Uzi at gun show
> >http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hl-VtQImXVuBfNXTpNMvOgFOxj2wD9439PRO0
[quoted text clipped - 95 lines]
> year old to live, when that father was stupid enough ti put an uzi in the
> hands of an 8 year old.

--"I gotz a Uzi I got too Uzi I gots alota Uzi and I ain't nevar
shotted myself with Uzi,"--L'il Jak

"Many people wish that L'il Jak would shoot himself."--Col Kilgore and
Maddi
Morton Davis - 30 Oct 2008 04:40 GMT
On Oct 28, 9:39 pm, Ken Marino <kpha...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:01:21 -0700, Ic wrote:
> > Boy, 8, fatally shoots self with Uzi at gun show
[quoted text clipped - 96 lines]
> year old to live, when that father was stupid enough ti put an uzi in the
> hands of an 8 year old.

--"I gotz a Uzi I got too Uzi I gots alota Uzi and I ain't nevar
shotted myself with Uzi,"--L'il Jak

"Many people wish that L'il Jak would shoot himself."--Col Kilgore and
Maddi

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Leftloon gun banners dance in blood again.
majestic.pleasure.stick@gmail.com - 28 Nov 2008 02:42 GMT
> On Oct 28, 9:39 pm, Ken Marino <kpha...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 107 lines]
> =====
> Leftloon gun banners dance in blood again.

The mini-uzi is a little monster.  it fires 1200+ rounds per minute.
most grown men do not know how to control such a machine pistol.  give
it to a kid who can hardly hold the gun up and you wind up with
this...

Most folks that rent a mini-uzi put a suppressor on it to ad weight
and length to the gun.   this one, as i understand, was not so
equipped.

(morbid opinion) if this kid would have died on a fishing trip,  there
would not have been any national notice.
Poetic-Justice - 30 Nov 2008 13:55 GMT
>> On Oct 28, 9:39 pm, Ken Marino <kpha...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 97 lines]
> (morbid opinion) if this kid would have died on a fishing trip,  there
> would not have been any national notice.

The propaganda and attacks on the second amendment is beginning, as the
left wants to try again to ban guns, there will be eight years of
consistently negative stories about firearms.

The Liberals will try to turn the masses against guns as they tried to
turn the public away from National security through the use of our
military, Liberals have been manipulating the ignorant and stupid for
many years.
John-Melb - 30 Nov 2008 14:50 GMT
On Dec 1, 12:55 am, Poetic-Justice <@Poetic-Justice.talk-n-dog.com>
wrote:

> The propaganda and attacks on the second amendment is beginning, as the
> left wants to try again to ban guns, there will be eight years of
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> military, Liberals have been manipulating the ignorant and stupid for
> many years

Anti-gun zealots and their mates in the government and media
absolutely disgust me, and there is no doubt whatsoever that there
will more increasing and virulent attacks on the Second Amendment over
the next few years.

That having been said, what were these people thinking, they handed an
eight year old a sub-machine gun and then turned their back on him?
The "properly certified and licenced instructor" needs to loose his
certification and his licence right bloody now.

That kid was fully entitled to have a fun day with his family at a
range, and fully entitled to the protection and supervision of
responsible, competent adults to ensure his safety and protection.

Both his father and the "instructor" failed him miserably, he's dead
because of their failure.
slate_leeper - 29 Oct 2008 13:54 GMT
Unfortunately, responsibility is not inborn.

I used to shoot IPSC at this club occasionally. The last time I was
there, the RO wanted to start me while there were still people down
range pasting targets. He was surprised when I refused to start. He
was not in the least concerned about his squad or anyone's safety. All
he wanted to do was keep running over to the classifier stage and
reshooting it over and over as he tried to make "master." He would
take is co-RO with him to time his attempts. At these times he would
appoint some unqualified squad member as "RO" for the squad
temporarily. I felt so unsafe that I dropped out of the match.

Last time I ever went there.

This is the state that allows out-of-state competitors to bring a
handgun into the state for competitions, but does NOT allow bringing a
+10 magazine. However the Range Master and a couple of his friends
kept telling me it was OK because "the chances of getting caught are
so low." The penalty is a mandatory five-year term. I don't care how
low the chances are, that is very poor advise.

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