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Baby food vs. Big people food

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Amy Hunt - 08 Jul 2004 04:10 GMT
Hi.  My son is 12 mo. old now and I am having an extremely hard time
switching him over to big boy food.  He ONLY wants baby food in jars.  He'll
eat crackers and peas, but that's about it.  He screams hysterically when I
show him the "big boy" food.  When I say big boy food, I mean Mac&Cheese,
spaghetti, cheese balls, etc.  In fact he didn't even want anything to do
with his birthday cake!  If I pull out a baby food jar he opens wide.  I
even tried blending his food to give it that baby food texture.  He might
take one bite, but when he realizes it's not Gerber, he tries to pull the
food out of his mouth and starts crying.  I'm stumped!  Do I give in and
just keep giving him baby food or is there some secret I haven't heard
about?  Suggestions are welcome!  Thanks!

Amy
Tori M. - 08 Jul 2004 05:48 GMT
I did not get Bonnie to eat much real food until she was 18 months old.  I
was really worried about it because we gave her a wide variety of Baby foods
and she loved all of them until they started to get clumps.  Now she will
still not eat Peaches, pears and there are a few others she LOVED as a
baby....  I was given a NUK brush by the people at the WIC office because
she would not eat any meat or pasta or basicly anything other then Cherios,
animal crackers, cookies and brocoli for a while.. Oh and she liked Veana
Sausages( not really meat.. ewww)  Anyway the WIC lady said some kids have a
hard time with new tectures and the brush kinda numbed her tounge a bit so
she could not feel what she was eating.  I am proud to say that she will now
eat chicken and beef(well hamburger) and pasta.. so I can make spaghetti and
not have to make something else for her.. hehe.  Bonnie also had no interest
in her birthday cake other then flinging it arround the room.. I was
standing behind her and got some on me.

Tori

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Xavier due 10/17/04

jenn - 08 Jul 2004 05:51 GMT
> Hi.  My son is 12 mo. old now and I am having an extremely hard time
> switching him over to big boy food.  He ONLY wants baby food in jars.  He'll
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>
> Amy

Let this be a caution to parents that 6-8 months or so is a better
transition time than 12 -- longer you wait the more likely this is to
happen  He is now accustomed to special meals

he is old enough to feed himself -- have him eat with the family -- give
him a little bit of his food in his dish and a bit of mashed table food
in another compartment of the dish and let him feed himself and provide
a tiny number of finger foods as well -- since you are busy eating, you
will not be dancing attendance giving him time to experiment -- you can
poke a spoonfull in now and then but don't make feeding him your primary
focus --- the goal is to deemphasize eating

it won't hurt him to eat baby foods for awhile -- so don't worry if that
is mostly what he eats, but he is likely to experiment a bit with foods
you are eating when he sees others enjoying them and no one forcing them
on him or caring much what he eats

good luck -- hope it goes well -- and remember most things that seem
like a big deal at the moment sort of work themselves out over time --
so don't worry about it but take the tiny steps to increase low focus
exposure to other options
Amy Hunt - 08 Jul 2004 15:57 GMT
Thanks for the great feedback!  I totally agree with the starting them out
on big people food sooner comment!  I am a first time mom that doesn't seem
to have much baby sense.  I can already think of a hundred things I will do
differently next time around -- including more tummy time early on and the
whole feeding issue I have described.  I wish I had enough sense and
foresight to figure these things out a couple months earlier!  I swear I am
intelligent person, at least I'd like to think so.

I guess something else I need to work  harder on are my family meals.  I am
a working mom (teacher) and I have never been much of a cook.  I have also
always struggled with my weight leading me to eat a lot of weight watchers
dinners and the such.  I will concentrate on cooking (my husband cringes)
more family friendly meals and try your suggestions.  I wish I could rewind
a couple months and start back then!

Thanks again for the post and I will give this a shot!

Amy

> > Hi.  My son is 12 mo. old now and I am having an extremely hard time
> > switching him over to big boy food.  He ONLY wants baby food in jars.  He'll
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> so don't worry about it but take the tiny steps to increase low focus
> exposure to other options
glunk - 08 Jul 2004 16:10 GMT
> Thanks for the great feedback!  I totally agree with the starting them out
> on big people food sooner comment!  I am a first time mom that doesn't seem
> to have much baby sense.  I can already think of a hundred things I will do
> differently next time around --

And you second will find ways to thwart THAT effort! I am being a little
tonge in cheek. I was going to do this and that with my second, and darn it
all, she is just not complying. Parents sometimes take too much onto
themselves in terms of what they can affect and what is just their child
being their child. Mine would not eat a BITE of any kind of solid before 6
months. It was really closer to 7. Pretty hard to start her on lumpy when
she would not eat anything. It all works out ok though.

> including more tummy time early on and the
> whole feeding issue I have described.  I wish I had enough sense and
> foresight to figure these things out a couple months earlier!  I swear I am
> intelligent person, at least I'd like to think so.

Don't give yourself too much grief. The one thing that was hardest for me
with my first was realizing that if I made a mistake, it was undoable. And
it did not need to be undone Right This Minute. I remember when my sister's
kids could drink out of a cup WAY before I even knew it was appropriate to
start trying with my son. I remember thinking, he is supposed to be drinking
out of a cup. Oh My God Get Him Drinking Out of a Cup Right Now. That kind
of uptightness never helped DS learn anything. Somehow he survived my
neroses!

> I guess something else I need to work  harder on are my family meals.  I am
> a working mom (teacher) and I have never been much of a cook.  I have also
> always struggled with my weight leading me to eat a lot of weight watchers
> dinners and the such.  I will concentrate on cooking (my husband cringes)
> more family friendly meals and try your suggestions.  I wish I could rewind
> a couple months and start back then!

I am also work. (Ugh. I hate it.) For me there are 3 keys to being able to
provide dinner for the family. One is this cookbook:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0764539302/qid=1089299073/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2
_1/102-4621316-4150506


I can get dinner on the table quickly, often in as little as 15 minutes.
They aren't rocket science recipes. One is store bought chicken patties in a
sandwich with salsa and black bean dip, for instance. I could have come up
with that. But I do not want to!  I will begin to look for other cookbooks
like it.

The other absolute necessity is a meal plan. I need to know what to take out
of the freezer the night before. I make a grocery list from the meal plan
plus things we need to have on hand, like juice, snacks, milk, etc.. I only
do meal plans for dinners. We have a rotating same o' same o' for breakfast
and lunch. But you could just as easily do meal plans for those meals to.

I do not try to make my food particularly kid friendly. In our house, dinner
is a take it or leave it proposition, as is every meal. Frank McCourt never
turned down a chicken sandwich! It used to make me crazy to come up with
meals that my son would like that we could tolerate. I do not make spicy or
truely awful things (like liver and onions which my parents loved. ICK) and
I have something kind of boring at every meal, like fruit salad, bread or
applesauce. But once the meal is planned, that's what is for dinner. I also
pick one of DS's favorites at least once per week.

Good luck!

S

> Thanks again for the post and I will give this a shot!
>
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> > so don't worry about it but take the tiny steps to increase low focus
> > exposure to other options
jenn - 08 Jul 2004 16:27 GMT
>>Thanks for the great feedback!  I totally agree with the starting them out
>>on big people food sooner comment!  I am a first time mom that doesn't
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> months. It was really closer to 7. Pretty hard to start her on lumpy when
> she would not eat anything. It all works out ok though.

6 months is when doctors recommend starting solids anyway -- so you are
not remiss at all -- and 7 months is not that unusual -- I started mine
on solids then and went straight to mostly mashed table food -- if they
start late, they can handle more lumpy food from the gitgo

I also do think it is easier with the second -- although our kids
differed a lot -- the confidence that comes with knowing you haven't
killed the first one and he has sort of survived the days of incompetent
new parenthood, gives you the boost you need to cope

>>including more tummy time early on and the
>>whole feeding issue I have described.  I wish I had enough sense and
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>>>so don't worry about it but take the tiny steps to increase low focus
>>>exposure to other options
glunk - 08 Jul 2004 16:44 GMT
> >>Thanks for the great feedback!  I totally agree with the starting them out
> >>on big people food sooner comment!  I am a first time mom that doesn't
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> killed the first one and he has sort of survived the days of incompetent
> new parenthood, gives you the boost you need to cope

Absolutely. For me, part of that is knowing that these little things that
you do "wrong" are not a very big deal.

> >>including more tummy time early on and the
> >>whole feeding issue I have described.  I wish I had enough sense and
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> > I am also work. (Ugh. I hate it.) For me there are 3 keys to being able to
> > provide dinner for the family. One is this cookbook:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0764539302/qid=1089299073/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2
_1/102-4621316-4150506


> > I can get dinner on the table quickly, often in as little as 15 minutes.
> > They aren't rocket science recipes. One is store bought chicken patties in a
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> >>>so don't worry about it but take the tiny steps to increase low focus
> >>>exposure to other options
Rupa Bose - 08 Jul 2004 19:46 GMT
> Thanks for the great feedback!  I totally agree with the starting them out
> on big people food sooner comment!  I am a first time mom that doesn't seem
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>
> Amy

I frankly wouldn't worry at all, unless it's an expense issue or
something.

There's enough variety that he'll get his nutritional needs met. The
jars are small and easy to handle, he can start feeding himself. And
one of these days, he'll demand a taste of whatever is on your plate.
I doubt very much he'll want to stay on baby food forever. But if you
let him make the decision -- and treat it as no big deal at all -- you
won't get stressed and neither will he.

OTOH, if he reaches college age and he's still eating baby-food out of
jars, it'll save him from all the junk food floating around...
(I've know teenage girls who eat baby-food because it's convenient
portions that can be eaten on the run at any time of day, and it
usually doesn't need refrigeration.)

Rupa
Amy - 08 Jul 2004 22:31 GMT
> OTOH, if he reaches college age and he's still eating baby-food out of
> jars, it'll save him from all the junk food floating around...

My dad keeps joking around that he'll be the only one in his class that has
to crawl to school (obviously, we are not walking yet) and have baby jar
food for lunch!

Amy
Tracey - 09 Jul 2004 03:43 GMT
> Hi.  My son is 12 mo. old now and I am having an extremely hard time
> switching him over to big boy food.  He ONLY wants baby food in jars.

Sounds like my boy.  He's 16 months old and loves some jar foods...he won't
eat any vegetables or meat unless they are pureed.  Give him a jar and he'll
eat several of them, but put a diced up veggie or meat in front of him and
he won't eat a single bite of it.  Sigh.
eggs - 09 Jul 2004 04:45 GMT
> > Hi.  My son is 12 mo. old now and I am having an extremely hard time
> > switching him over to big boy food.  He ONLY wants baby food in jars.
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> eat several of them, but put a diced up veggie or meat in front of him and
> he won't eat a single bite of it.  Sigh.

I think this is the right way to go.  I don't think it really matters if
they actually eat the meat and veg that you put in front of them - as
long as they have some to poke around and stuff at the time that the
rest of the family is eating dinner.  I always put a little bit of
everything out for my babies and find that they will eventually put it
in their mouths (like everything else!) and give it a bit of a lick.  I
never made a big deal out of whether they ate it or not.  I wasted a
*lot* of food, but now that they are a preschooler & a toddler they both
have a go at just about any food that is put in front of them and are
very wide ranging eaters.

eggs.
Tracey - 09 Jul 2004 05:02 GMT
.  Give him a jar and
> he'll
> > eat several of them, but put a diced up veggie or meat in front of him
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> long as they have some to poke around and stuff at the time that the
> rest of the family is eating dinner.

Yup, this is what I do...he pokes around at the diced up stuff on the tray,
and in between he feeds himself pureed food with a spoon, and I feed him
some with another spoon.  This way I know that he is getting some nutritious
food and he's still learning about the other stuff and eventually (I hope)
he'll eat that.
Tracey
Tori M. - 09 Jul 2004 05:06 GMT
> I think this is the right way to go.  I don't think it really matters if
> they actually eat the meat and veg that you put in front of them - as
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>
> eggs.

I tried to get my daughter to eat a wide variety of things.. I am REALLY
picky and I try to at least make an effort to eat things that I dont like in
front of her so she will not get turned off by certain foods.  Hey who ever
died from not liking Jello or Candy bars (on my wont eat list) How do I
encourage her to try new foods?  It is still fairly easy since she just has
to see me eating it, though it still does not work for peaches or pears, and
she will at least lick it. How often do you have a child try something
before you give up?  Am I going to be saying to her "I know you like
peaches, It is all you ate as a baby' like my mom does now and then about me
not like cranberry sauce now;)

Tori
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hobbes - 09 Jul 2004 19:37 GMT
How often do you have a child try something
> before you give up?  Am I going to be saying to her "I know you like
> peaches, It is all you ate as a baby' like my mom does now and then about me
> not like cranberry sauce now;)

I read somewhere that it can take up to *15* exposures to a new food before
a child will decide they will eat it. Seems true, based on my experience.
Plus if you look at it that way, it's easier to be willing to offer little
bits of everything without being stressed about whether your child actually
eats it. My strategy is to always offer something I know my kids like, and
then put little bits of other stuff on their plates and just leave them to
it. With our 3 year old, sometimes we do a little extra encouraging to get
him to eat something he's not currently interested in, but we try to not
push or make it a battle (we had wonderful results the one time we jumped up
and down clapping every time he took a bite of broccoli).

But I also think it's important to let children decide that they don't care
for foods, not holding past preferences over them. I used to eat bologna as
a child, and that's one thing I'm determined never to eat again. I don't
like mayonnaise anymore either. I don't consider myself a picky eater
because of those preferences. But then, since kids change so much, I never
necessarily think that because DS decides he doesn't like cheese this week,
he'll never eat it again. Chances are, he'll love it in a month.

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Nikki - 09 Jul 2004 19:47 GMT
> How often do you have a child try something before you give up?

I don't know.  I put veggies on Luke's plate every day from the time he was
8 months old and it took him until he was three before he'd eat any ;-)  He
ate a piece under the table when grammy fed him like a dog <eye roll>.  A
month after that he decided he'd scream like a banchy if a veggie was on his
plate or in his food.  He'll nibble at corn on the cob just for the fun
factor though, lol.

Admittedly I didn't offer Hunter fruit *every* day but he wouldn't eat any
until he was 4.  He still doesn't eat much but loves watermelon and will eat
apples.

Luke ate lots of jarred baby food fruit but never made the switch to real
fruit.

Who can figure them out!  I buy vitamins and try not to worry about it :-/

--
Nikki
Al Bell - 11 Jul 2004 05:39 GMT
>Hi.  My son is 12 mo. old now and I am having an extremely hard time
>switching him over to big boy food.  He ONLY wants baby food in jars.  He'll
>eat crackers and peas, but that's about it.  He screams hysterically when I

- Keep in mind that every human adult you know was a baby and did weird
baby things, and most of them are now reasonably normal about stuff like
eating adult food. I wouldn't stress over the baby food issue at all,
especially if your son eats a wide variety of baby food.

- What does he think about Gerber Stage 2 and toddler foods?

- What happens if you blend regular food and put it in a baby food jar
before giving it to him?

- What does he think about yogurt, juice bar juice drinks and other
drinkable adult foods?
Amy - 12 Jul 2004 00:29 GMT
So after a few days of trying out several suggestions, my 12 mo. old will
now eat just about anything that is solid enough to pick up.  He doesn't
want it if it comes off a spoon or fork.  I guess this is an improvement
from not wanting any big people food at all!  This is definitely a work in
progress.  Thanks for all of you suggestions and positive feedback!

Amy

> >Hi.  My son is 12 mo. old now and I am having an extremely hard time
> >switching him over to big boy food.  He ONLY wants baby food in jars.  He'll
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> - What does he think about yogurt, juice bar juice drinks and other
> drinkable adult foods?
jenn - 12 Jul 2004 00:53 GMT
> So after a few days of trying out several suggestions, my 12 mo. old will
> now eat just about anything that is solid enough to pick up.  He doesn't
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>
> Amy

just remember that almost all 'crises' in child rearing sort of go away
with time and reasonable behavior on the parent's part -- lots of things
that you think will just be a giant problem forever just disappear

>>>Hi.  My son is 12 mo. old now and I am having an extremely hard time
>>>switching him over to big boy food.  He ONLY wants baby food in jars.
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>>- What does he think about yogurt, juice bar juice drinks and other
>>drinkable adult foods?
 
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