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Family Forum / Parenting / Parenting / August 2005Rosalie B- an 'unusual condiction'
The fact that in your eyes I have an unusual condiction is not reason to be dismissive of it. I and people like me have the right to have out condiction treated with respect. THe problem comes becuause society at large is not understanding enought. Actually I think its pretty offensive to say that I have an unusaul condiction, it bit like you are putting it on to me, saying I'm unusual and its my problem. If your children and grandchildren were said to have an unusual condiction I wonder how your would like that. For kids like me school was child abuse. That what it was. Take pride in your difference, and work to overcome it instead of sitting back and whining that you are mistreated and taking offense at everyone who disagrees with you. >The fact that in your eyes I have an unusual condiction is not reason >to be dismissive of it. I and people like me have the right to have out [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >condiction, it bit like you are putting it on to me, saying I'm unusual >and its my problem. This is tough love. Not letting someone slip into the trough of self-pity. >If your children and grandchildren were said to have an unusual >condiction I wonder how your would like that. I wouldn't like it, but I would do all in my power to see that they had appropriate help. >For kids like me school was child abuse. That what it was. So what are you doing about that? Whining to the newsgroups and feeling sorry for yourself isn't helping is it? Take a lesson from someone like Christopher Reeves who did all that he could to help himself and help others who might also have the same injury or problem. grandma Rosalie oh f.ck you stupied bitch, what you whining is the hurt and damage I fee and I know that other kids are going through the same thing. That tough love approach is just bollocks. The fact i was mistreated and its still happening to people like me and its wrong and what are you doing to stop it. How I feel is how I feel. I thing everyone has times when they feel down and the stop feeling sorry foryourself bullshit just makes it worst.As you are not in my shoes you can't make a judgment. The fact is I need support and help and am not getting it. My problems come from how i have been treated over the years and that is true of many people with dyspraix. It like people who have sexuall abused, it stays with them. you are probaly are not aware but about 60 % of youth offenders are dyslexic / dysrpaxic etc. They are there becaue they have not had the support they need, drift into crime and drugs. You mention about whining to the newsgroup but it the people in this newgroup, who should be doing something about the problems people with dyspraixa face. What are you doing for people with dyspraxia? Proably nothing and you probably don't even see why you should. If I'm not getting the help then society as a whole has to take resposibility. >You mention about whining to the newsgroup but it the people >in this newgroup, who should be doing something about the >problems people with dyspraixa face. Why should the people in this newsgroup particularly be doing something about *your* problems or the problems of any other person with dyspraxia. You have to realize that some of us have other problems. Atm, I am dealing with my dgd who is in speech therapy because he is not talking at all. My dil and her sister are partially deaf. What are you doing to help people who cannot hear? He may be verbally dyspraxic. If he is, we will be working through therapy and other means to help him be the best that he can be. >What are you doing for people with dyspraxia? Proably nothing and you >probably don't even see why you should. You haven't a clue what Rosalie is or is not doing in real life to help others. But please remember that dyspraxia is not the only problem in the world and others have other priorities. If you want to help, then try a real life group that deals with the specific problem that you have. http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/dyspraxia/dyspraxia.htm Most of the teachers I know work hard to make sure that all their students get help. There are currently lots of books out to help with different ideas on how children who learn differently can achieve a great deal. The Out of Sync Child and The Out of Sync Child Has Fun by Carol Stock Kranowitz are good books to reccommend to teachers and parents if they are working with kids who have this kind of disability. >If I'm not getting the help then society as a whole has to take >resposibility. How old are you currently? There are organizations that help people now. You just need to find one. You will not find it on a newsgroup where parents are discussing the day to day issues they have with raising children. I would suggest that you post to alt.support.dyspraxia if it is on your newsserver, although that group appears not to have much traffic. You can try alt.support.dyslexia as well as there seem to be more real people around there and the disabilities are somewhat related. -- Dorothy There is no sound, no cry in all the world that can be heard unless someone listens .. The Outer Limits > Why should the people in this newsgroup particularly be doing > something about *your* problems or the problems of any other [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > will be working through therapy and other means to help him be > the best that he can be. I will answer your points. First of all my comment F... .... was uncalled for and I apologise for that. I have, and do spent a lot of time doing voluntary work with disabled people such as mentally handicapped (now called learning disability),the homeless, and raising money generally to help people. So I don't just think about my self. I think the point I was making is that sometimes I find it helpful to talk about how I feel. Generally I am quite undetanding with people when they talk about thier problems. In real life people often do by the way but I have come to realise that I also need to talk about mine. Someone saying stop winging, well sometimes I need to wing. Most of the time I don't but sometimes it helps to let of steam. II think there needs to be more awarness of the condiction and I think people should, show understanding and tolerance. Someone may say why should I show understanding and tolerance, to which I guess there is not answer.> >> > > You haven't a clue what Rosalie is or is not doing in real life to > help others. But please remember that dyspraxia is not the only > problem in the world and others have other priorities. If you want > to help, then try a real life group that deals with the specific > problem that you have. I agree that I do not have a clue what Rosalie is doing in the real world. I also agree that dyspraxia is not the only problem in the world but as I said i have been involved in various charities. However my life is as important to me as anybody else so for me it is a priority. The reason why i feel more should be done is because many people have not had thier dyspraxia picked up at school and are going through life, drifitng from job to job, suffering mental torture,leading to mental health problems, depression, anger, some drift into drugs, crime. I have never taken drugs mysefl or got into crime because that just makes things worst in the long run and becasue I am would not want to. The thing is because you cannot see someone is dyspraxic people often don't undersand it and misinterpret peoples behavoiour which can lead to people being isolated and marginalised. > > There are organizations that help > people now. You just need to find one. You will not find it > on a newsgroup where parents are discussing the day to day > issues they have with raising children. Yes, but I can raise the awarness on a site like this. There are probably parents on this site with children who have problmes like dyspraxia etc and maybe raising awarness will mean their childrens dyspraixia will get picked up sooner rather than later. > I would suggest that you post to alt.support.dyspraxia if it is > on your newsserver, although that group appears not to have [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > The Outer Limits <snip> >Someone saying stop winging, well sometimes I need to wing. Most of the >time I don't but sometimes it helps to let of steam. Usually we label these posts [Rant} or something similar so that people can respond with sympathy. <snip> >I agree that I do not have a clue what Rosalie is doing in the real >world. I also agree that dyspraxia is not the only problem in the world [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >dyspraxia etc and maybe raising awarness will mean their childrens >dyspraixia will get picked up sooner rather than later. If you wanted to raise awareness here, you went about it the wrong way - first by ranting about how badly you were treated (which you were, but it was a bit off putting and might have resulted in our thinking you were a troll) and second by going over the top and suggesting that children don't need sports (or by implication physical activity), when what you really wanted to say (I'm guessing) is that over competitive coaches were not appropriate for most children who were learning a sport. Very few parents here would agree that sports were across the board bad for children. But most of us would be sympathetic to your problems if you had done less attacking and more informing. grandma Rosalie oh f.ck you stupied bitch, what you whining is the hurt and damage I fee and I know that other kids are going through the same thing. That tough love approach is just bollocks. The fact i was mistreated and its still happening to people like me and its wrong and what are you doing to stop it. How I feel is how I feel. I thing everyone has times when they feel down and the stop feeling sorry foryourself bullshit just makes it worst.As you are not in my shoes you can't make a judgment. The fact is I need support and help and am not getting it. My problems come from how i have been treated over the years and that is true of many people with dyspraix. It like people who have sexuall abused, it stays with them. you are probaly are not aware but about 60 % of youth offenders are dyslexic / dysrpaxic etc. They are there becaue they have not had the support they need, drift into crime and drugs. You mention about whining to the newsgroup but it the people in this newgroup, who should be doing something about the problems people with dyspraixa face. What are you doing for people with dyspraxia? Proably nothing and you probably don't even see why you should. If I'm not getting the help then society as a whole has to take resposibility. Scott, I posted that I have essentially the same condition. And that for ME school PE wasn't abusive and that physical activities were part of the overall package which helps me to function better. In fact, the LAST thing you need with a deficit in coordination/motor skills planning is for the muscles to be out of physical condition as well, because then it takes MORE work to get them to behave. Your program was deficient. Period. That doesn't mean that all, or even most schools are. In the USA, in a public school, you would have qualified for an IEP to meet your needs, and it would have included PE.  SignatureDonna DeVore Metler Orff Music Specialist/Band/Choir Mother to Angel Brian Anthony 1/1/2002, 22 weeks, severe PE/HELLP And Allison Joy, 11/25/04 (35 weeks, PIH, Pre-term labor) I glad that you had good experiences at school and seemed to get the help you needed. But I have meet a lot of people with dyspraxia both in person and over email. A common theme, appears to be that people are not getting the help they need and many teachers thing it is an excuss. In the end i can only go on my experienc and I would like to thing that schools have changed but still seems to be the case that people are being written off. I glad that you had good experiences at school and seemed to get the help you needed. But I have meet a lot of people with dyspraxia both in person and over email. A common theme, appears to be that people are not getting the help they need and many teachers thing it is an excuss. In the end i can only go on my experienc and I would like to thing that schools have changed but still seems to be the case that people are being written off. |
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