Dh will be away for 5 working days. Professional (financial) office
attire expected when on location with a client. He will be with one
superior/manager from his office for the week, and I believe a partner
shows his face for a meet-and-greet one of the days. For daytime work
attire, I was planning:
1 grey pinstripe 2pc suit
1 navy blazer
1 grey dress pants
1 tan dress pants
5 shirts white/blue
5 ties (this seems excessive???)
5 pr. dress socks (believe me, can't get two wearings out of those...)
5 each underwear and undershirts
dress shoes and belt
pajamas
misc casual clothes for going out to eat after work with co-worker
(jeans, khakis, knit shirts, sweater, casual shoes and belt)
misc toiletries and personal items
Dh seems to think he wants two suits, either instead of or in addition
to jacket/pants, I'm not clear exactly. They're driving up Sunday
evening, will be there M-F and drive home Fri evening, so no baggage
restrictions as far as checked luggage as on a flight, but I can't see a
reason to overpack either, as they will also have laptop bags and file
cases.
Anyway, this is the first business trip with this job and I'd appreciate
guidance from those of you who deal with this kind of thing regularly. I
looked around online for checklists of types and quantities of clothes
to pack for business trips of varying lengths, but couldn't really find
anything helpful.
And for those of you concerned about this being my responsibility and
not his, A) he is truly hopeless and clueless when it comes to anything
having to do with clothing or fabric of any type and 2)they are in
overtime season with 50-60 hour weeks *and* dh is in school 2 nights a
week (exams, presentations, study group meetings, library time etc.) All
he does right now is work, school, eat, and occasionally sleep. I'm home
full time and *I* consider it my job and my part of the bargain in the
family plan for his career advancement to get him out the door feeling
confident that he looks appropriate and presentable.
Thanks for any tips,
-Karen-
MsLiz - 27 Jan 2006 22:59 GMT
> Dh will be away for 5 working days. Professional (financial) office
> attire expected when on location with a client. He will be with one
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> Thanks for any tips,
> -Karen-
I'm far from a fasion maven and not exactly an expert on how to pack
(for fun or work); my suggestion is to visit alt.support.fashion or
find some group that deals with this issue specifically. I take
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much stuff everywhere I go and act as
if I'm going somewhere, where there are no stores within a 1,000 mile
radius.
Good luck though :-)
Oh, one tip I do have! If he ends up traveling regularly.....buy one
of those overnight bags that holds all of the toiletries and buy
everything that he uses and just keep that bag packed and ready to go
at all times. This has saved my husband (who is missing the part of
the brain that tells him that he needs toothbrush/paste, deoderant,
etc.) tons of time. He just grabs the bag. When I'm feeling
particularly nice, I'll check the bag and make sure it's stocked. And
be careful about spillage type things (cologne). Ineveitably, it will
spill on something silk.
Ericka Kammerer - 27 Jan 2006 23:00 GMT
> Dh will be away for 5 working days. Professional (financial) office
> attire expected when on location with a client. He will be with one
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> Dh seems to think he wants two suits, either instead of or in addition
> to jacket/pants, I'm not clear exactly.
I don't think it's a terribly big deal. One suit
plus two pants/blazer is likely sufficient under normal
circumstances, and in case of disaster, most hotels offer
drycleaning services. I agree five ties is a bit much.
Surely he can get some reuse out of the ties (and again,
if he needs to have one cleaned while there it's not the
end of the earth). But, if he wants two suits that's
fine too. Does he think that the dress pants and blazer
aren't sufficiently dressy for the situation? That
could be true in some situations, in which case he's
probably the best judge of that.
Hardcore travellers could go with less and do
some washing while they're gone, but especially given
that he's driving, there's no need to constrain the
packing that much.
Best wishes,
Ericka
Penny Gaines - 27 Jan 2006 23:12 GMT
> 1 grey pinstripe 2pc suit
> 1 navy blazer
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> 5 each underwear and undershirts
> dress shoes and belt
Dh's reaction was that the shirts should be different enough
from each other that it is clear he is not wearing the same
one more then once. Then he wouldn't need 5 ties - but if
the shirts are very similar, then he does need five ties.

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-L. - 27 Jan 2006 23:55 GMT
> Dh will be away for 5 working days. Professional (financial) office
> attire expected when on location with a client. He will be with one
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> 1 navy blazer
> 1 grey dress pants
I'd ditch these. He can wear the suit pants without the jacket.
> 1 tan dress pants
> 5 shirts white/blue
> 5 ties (this seems excessive???)
Yes - 3 is plenty
> 5 pr. dress socks (believe me, can't get two wearings out of those...)
We always pack 2 extra.
> 5 each underwear and undershirts
Also, pack extra underpants
> dress shoes and belt
>
> pajamas
Ditch these unless he uis sharing a room - he can sleep in shorts and
t-shirt.
> misc casual clothes for going out to eat after work with co-worker
> (jeans, khakis, knit shirts, sweater, casual shoes and belt)
One pair of jeans and one khakis is enough - he can probably wear the
casual shirts more than once.
> misc toiletries and personal items
>
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> reason to overpack either, as they will also have laptop bags and file
> cases.
Seems a bit excessive to me. My DH would generally bring one suit, an
extra pair of dress pants, 3 ties, 1 jeans, 1 casual pants, 3 casual
shirts, 3 dress shirts, extra t-shirts, and underclothes/accessorties
as above. He's not in sales though so wouldn't need the extra dress
jacket. He wears dress shirts more than once, with T-shirts under
them.
Don't forget asprin, a safelty pin, first-aid kit and any prescription
meds, and cell-phone charger.
-L.
Welches - 28 Jan 2006 12:03 GMT
> Dh will be away for 5 working days. Professional (financial) office attire
> expected when on location with a client. He will be with one
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>
> misc toiletries and personal items
Couldn't help but laugh. Dh (who hates formal wear) would pack.
1 pair of formal trousers probably beige in colour
5 shirts in blue/green/white patterns
1 tie (which he wouldn't wear except if he had to)
1 blazer if he was going to somewhere he might have to wear it (like the
officers mess if army area)
1 t-shirt
pyjamas (if reminded by me-actually a bit unfair but you know whar I mean)
underwear-1 change for each day
He's probably wear to travel in
1 pair of informal (but smart enough as a spare if something happened)
trousers (probably navy blue)
1 t-shirt
He might put in swimwear if going to a hotel with a pool, and shorts if it
was really hot.
Debbie
Rose Garten - 28 Jan 2006 16:23 GMT
DH says if he wants the second suit pack the the @$^$^&^ suit. Sorry
hubby isn't very diplomatic when it comes to giving advice. LOL If he
has two suits and wants them then pack them. I would also skip the grey
pants and put in another color since he has a grey suit already. Five
ties seem like a lot to me but I would pack extra underwear and socks.
Since this is the first trip it is better to make a good first
impression. Though most people would give leeway to a traveling
businessman (and he won't be seeing the same people daily), you don't
want he looking unkempt by the end of the week.
Dh says I always overpack but he usually ends up saying boy I wished I
brought.....and I pull it out.
> Dh will be away for 5 working days. Professional (financial) office
> attire expected when on location with a client. He will be with one
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> 5 each underwear and undershirts
> dress shoes and belt
Catherine Woodgold - 29 Jan 2006 22:11 GMT
> DH says if he wants the second suit pack the the @$^$^&^ suit. Sorry
> hubby isn't very diplomatic when it comes to giving advice.
I agree with Rose, except please pretend
I'm writing this with a gentle tone. If he's driving, he doesn't have
to be able to carry it all at once, does he? (Or does he?
Maybe he doesn't want to look weak and will lift it
all at once and strain his back??) So, pack the
2 suits and also the pants and stuff you were
thinking of. Why are the blazers you're packing a
different colour from the pants you're packing?
5 ties -- sure, why not? Then he can wear whichever
one he feels like, or have some choice if someone
criticizes one of his ties. I'd go with at least 6 pairs
of socks. What if he happens to take a shower in
the middle of the day one of the days for some reason?
Maybe some cotton socks too in case he feels like
going jogging or even for a walk or something.
After he's been on a few trips, you and he will have
a better idea of what he needs. This time, just
pack plenty of everything. That's my suggestion.
When he comes home you can ask him what he actually
wore, and then you'll know for next time.
darth_breather@yahoo.com - 29 Jan 2006 03:26 GMT
> Dh will be away for 5 working days. Professional (financial) office
> attire expected when on location with a client. He will be with one
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> Thanks for any tips,
> -Karen-
Your packing list seems fine.
I'd recommend 2 suits if he wants 2 suits. Blazer and slacks is a more
casual look, and if his work requires suits, it's better to have them.
If he's working in the same office all the 5 days, he might not want to
wear the same suit every day. And if coffee spills on one, then a
back-up is nice to have. I don't see why he'd need two pairs of slacks
and a blazer, then. Unless he will go out in the evening to someplace
where it's not suit-formal but not jeans-casual.
I'd say 5 ties is better, depending on how obvious the ties are.
Anyway, if you're packing 3, you might as well pack 5. If he does this
regularly, a tie-pack will save the ties from getting crushed.
5 pairs of socks are essential, along with the underwear etc. I often
pack an extra of each (shirts/ socks/ underwear) in case the trip gets
extended unexpectedly. My formula is one of everything for each
trip-day, plus one spare.
He may also want two night-suits (and a robe, depending on where he's
staying - some hotels provide them),
Overcoat, depending on weather.
Umbrella or rain gear?
If it's going to be wet weather, an extra pair of shoes, in case the
first pair gets soaked. (Yes, it's happened to me courtesy a large
puddle in London.)
No harm in overpacking somewhat since he's driving.
Some of the extra stuff just buys peace of mind.
DB
dkhedmo - 30 Jan 2006 03:22 GMT
Thanks for the input, everyone. Dh is off and arrived at the hotel
already. I did add the extra suit, which was a good idea in case of food
accidents (to which dh is prone) or an unexpected extra day, which is a
good thing to plan for. I also kept both the pants for the blazer - some
suggested dropping the gray pants because the gray suit pants were too
similar, but the gray suit is charcoal with pinstripe and the pants are
a plain light gray, so more variety, especially as they might go out for
a nice meal or two wearing jackets and ties, maybe with the client or
partner.
I went with the five ties, again because of food mishaps or extra days,
and also because of the one bit of advice about different looking shirts
and ties so as to not appear to be wearing the same outfit all week.
Also, the place they are going is quite rural, believe it or not, and
the hotel is a bit more of a mom-and-pop operation (apparently the
proprietors were changing the baby's diaper behind the desk when dh
arrived) than a proper "hotel" with concierge and dry cleaning type
services available.
I added an extra dress shirt in case of mishaps or extra day, as well as
an extra set of underclothes/socks. Casual wear for after work, one pair
each jeans and khakis, two knit shirts and a v-neck sweater to go over a
dress shirt without tie. Also decided to go ahead with one set of pjs,
as again, mom-and-pop shop, afraid they might crank down the heat at
night with the prices this winter, and also so dh can relax and be cozy
as he will be studying at night in the hotel room. Also a set of long
johns and warm lined pants and snow boots as this rural area is the
snowiest and coldest in the state. Also packed extra set of dress shoes
and belt in case of one being soaked, and adds more variety.
A toiletries bag was already assembled, just boosted it a bit with
extras for the full week and fresh meds and vits. Someone mentioned a
tie case for packing, seems like an item I should look into.
It could definitely have been cut back a bit, but as others said, since
they're driving and it's the first trip, better all bases covered than
to be without something. And the superior he's traveling with stressed
more than once that "professional" attire is expected, to the point dh
wondered did someone this guy traveled with in the past embarrass him by
his wardrobe.
When all was said and done, all the clothes fit in one suit bag and a
rolling carry-on size suitcase with room to spare, except for the snow
boots and dress topcoat. Otherwise he had a backpack with his personal
laptop and schoolbooks and for the job a file case and laptop bag. Too
much if they were flying, but at least in the ballpark of what it looked
like the other guy had.
For those who are curious, dh is an accountant and they are doing an
audit at a manufacturing commpany. The place is in the boondocks, but
office attire as they would wear to the office is expected.
Thanks again, everyone, I knew I could get some good advice here!
-Karen-
darth_breather@yahoo.com - 30 Jan 2006 08:19 GMT
> Also decided to go ahead with one set of pjs,
The other reason for PJs when travelling is that you might have to
leave your room unexpectedly or have someone come in. Getting ice or
soda or snacks from a vending machine. Fire alarm when you're asleep
(Yep, been there, walked down five floors). Room service. Colleague
knocks on your door with "I saw your light was on and I just had a
brilliant idea..."
Oh, and for next time:
A small flashlight. The keychain type is fine. Power outages in an
unfamiliar room can be disconcerting.
Spare reading glasses or any glasses, if he uses them. Nothing mucks up
a work-day more than losing your reading ability when you can't get to
a store to replace the thing.
Depending, of course, on how boonie these docks, such basic meds as
aspirin and pseudephedrin and imodium. Some of this should just live in
the travel kit.
Good luck on his trip
DB
-L. - 31 Jan 2006 08:38 GMT
> Thanks for the input, everyone. Dh is off and arrived at the hotel
> already.
Please report back about how much stuff he actually used. I'd be
interested as I think this is total overkill (no offense) and I just
want to see how efficient my DH actually is compared to other guys.
-L.
Chookie - 31 Jan 2006 07:35 GMT
> Anyway, this is the first business trip with this job and I'd appreciate
> guidance from those of you who deal with this kind of thing regularly.
<snip>
> And for those of you concerned about this being my responsibility and
> not his, A) he is truly hopeless and clueless when it comes to anything
> having to do with clothing or fabric of any type and 2)they are in
> overtime season with 50-60 hour weeks *and* dh is in school 2 nights a
> week (exams, presentations, study group meetings, library time etc.)
If your DH is like that, you might find that he has only WORN one outfit for
the entire length of the trip, or that he wore casual clothes to the formal
dinner...

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