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Erin - 10 Oct 2008 23:13 GMT
From reading on the net on personalities with
self-esteem quirks:

A person with low self-esteem or none, grows
up with an emptry sense of self.  Selfhood seems
to come from the outside; from acolytes, from
flatterers, from mirror images, from yes-men and
yes-women, from admirers, and from accomplishments
and rewards.  Socially, the self is sustained and
propped up through the support of enablers.
In the absence of these external support systems,
the personality with a weak ego or self-esteem and
knowledge, collapses.

It is a long journey to develop a healthy sense of
self, with the full range of emotions and ability to
be authentic without the clapping of the crowd.

My first step, in the hope that it helps:  I will stop
being an emotional enabler.   It was hard work
and misguided help, and it did me a lot of harm
possibly because it was not the right thing for
this type of personality.
DH may learn to be autonomous now.
Wonder what those therapists are doing. :-)

Erin
Erin - 11 Oct 2008 12:01 GMT
Step No. 2

Suggestibility and conversion:

A personality with low self-esteem can easily
be influenced by friends, peers, or cults into
thinking that their interests and beliefs are his/her interests as
well.
Isolation from family and once loved ones is a common
result.  A new "family" is created emotionally, which may
share any number of traits from creative to destructive
ones.  Often the friends influence the weakened person
into adopting beliefs and attitudes he never had before
"connecting" with them.  A "new man" to the astonishment
of those who have known him for a long time.

There is nothing I can do about that to help him.  My second step
is to rely on my relatives and friends who have shown
altruistic concern for my well-being since i was a young
girl.

Wonder how the therapists are doing. :-)

Erin
Erin - 12 Oct 2008 12:52 GMT
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I think there are biological stages through life
that everyone passes, and each one has psychological
and physical transformations.  A well-known example
is adolescence.   But there are others, both in men and
women, and i think hormones may play a big role.  I wish
I knew more about this stuff.  I'll do some searching.
Any knowledge, welcome.

Erin
Erin - 13 Oct 2008 19:54 GMT
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Step No. 3:

It is not up to me to resolve any conflicts DH
created with my family during his crisis.  He is
now an autonomous man and free to act as
he wants.

Erin
Erin - 14 Oct 2008 11:31 GMT
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Step No. 4:

I will try to give him no cause to my knowledge, to bring forth
complaints against me to his friends and co-workers.
This will protect me from any future disappointment.
I am striving for a cooperative and friendly relationship,
with no interference on his personal life.

Erin
Erin - 15 Oct 2008 14:02 GMT
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Step No. 5:

I have to learn how not to be jealous of other women in his life.
Any techniques anybody know of?  RSVP

Erin
Erin - 17 Oct 2008 14:11 GMT
STEP No. 7:

Self-awareness:

We are very happy together and he is very glad
to be back.  Much of the progress is due to my
realization that i have been a control-freak.  I
now understand that everyone is an individual
and i cannot nor should try to change him.  Much
of that effort has been a result of cultural and ethnic
expectations.   This change may make my family
unhappy, but he is who he is and has a right
to be such.  He may have misled us all a bit just
because he is so sensitive to offending people's
opinions.  Possibly, the therapists have helped
him with that.   But really, it has very little direct influence
on me, and i would rather he were free to be himself.

As for the jealousy part, that's my problem and
i think i will soon overcome it.  It is an unpleasant
feeling and makes you look like a loon.

So, things are looking up.

Erin
Erin - 18 Oct 2008 03:03 GMT
STEP  No.  8

Care for the mental health:

I am studying mental health care through the Net
(lessons in nursing, care, and patient support).
I am hoping this will give me knowledge and insight
on the proper way to interact with the clinically depressed.
It make the relationship more objective, while at
the same time, more imaginative of the other person's
inner struggles.   Medication persuasion is a tough
one for me, and for now i will leave it to his doctor
and therapist.

Erin
Erin - 18 Oct 2008 13:20 GMT
STEP no. 9:

Getting Advice: (the NET has saved my life in one case, and
is of great value to learning and research):

Wikedia has a good article on psychiatric nursing,

and for people who live with mentally "challenged"
partners or family members, this is a good practical
one:

http://www.mhagstl.org/PartnerIll.htm

Erin
CD - 18 Oct 2008 15:29 GMT
Erin <squiggle@sympatico.ca> wrote in news:7762b792-1d2d-407f-9dde-
731d58a6daf6@m74g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:

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have you noticed that you are the only one that responds to their own
message?

Signature

Best regards,

C.D.

Bill in Co - 18 Oct 2008 19:55 GMT
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But maybe it helps her.    I don't see it as a problem.  :-)
Erin - 18 Oct 2008 20:21 GMT
CD wrote:\
> have you noticed that you are the only one that responds to their own
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> C.D.

Yes, i know--- it's starting to look like a blogette here;
talking to yourself is a sure sign of lunacy.  So here it
is in writing - very good advice from NAMI.  My last
step to recovery and learning to cope.   Sorry for the
OT (marriage and mental health) rambling.  I am true net hound.
Thanks for reading.

STEP  no. 10:

(post above)----
"Welcome to
Mental Health America of Eastern Missouri

Good afternoon!
Saturday
October 18, 2008

......cut
Mental Health Links

16 Pointers to Help a Partner (and you) Live with Mental Illness

1.     The mental illness your partner suffers with is something that
is
happening to your entire family.  All are affected; it is nobody’s
fault.
It is not your partner’s fault; it is not your fault; it is not your
children’s fault.
IT IS NOBODY’S FAULT. It is an unfortunate illness.  It is NOT
automatic
grounds for divorce, any more than any other disability.

2.     You cannot fix your partner. There is nothing you can do to
make him/her
well, so don’t feel compelled to try. You don’t have all the answers.
All you can
do is be supportive and loving (in a profound sense), and handle the
everyday
details and practical issues of life for her/him that s/he cannot cope
with.

3.     All members of the family have a responsibility to cope with
the illness.
Escape is not a helpful way of dealing with the crisis.  You all need
each other.

4.     The ill partner must recognize and accept the illness, be
willing to receive
treatment, and if possible, learn to manage the illness. S/he must
cooperate with
his/her medical team.  S/he must take her/his  medications.  S/he must
learn to
recognize relapse symptoms.  If the ill partner is not willing to do
these things,
it may become impossible for the family to continue to support him/
her.
The family is not required to throw away their own lives for someone
who
refuses to cooperate.  There are limits, and they must be enforced
without feelings of guilt.

5.     Educate yourself concerning every aspect of the illness.
Education
brings compassion. Ignorance just encourages anger and fear.

6.     Grieve your loss.  It is a great loss. The grief process for
this
illness is identical to the grief process for the death of a
partner.
You need to allow yourself to experience the entire process of
grieving.

7.     Get help for yourself to cope with this incredible challenge,
either
from your own counseling sessions or a NAMI support group.
You can’t do it alone. With help, you can live life with gusto.
Don’t refuse to recognize your own need for help just because the
ill partner is getting most of the attention.  This illness is
happening
to your whole family.  You should not try to do it alone.

8.     Help your children understand the illness as much as their age
allows.  NO FAMILY SECRETS! Don’t deny them the opportunity to
learn about the illness, the unfair stigma attached to it, and to
develop
their own coping skills.  It can be an incredible learning opportunity
for
them.  If they need professional help to understand it and their own
feelings,
get it for them.

9.     Try to create a safe environment for the partner to express her/
himself
without feeling threatened, constrained or condemned.  S/he
desperately
needs a nurturing, safe place to express the incredible frustration s/
he is
feeling about her/his illness.

10.  You and your children need to share your feelings honestly and
openly.
They are suffering a loss also.  It’s okay to feel angry and
cheated.
At times you may feel embarrassed by the ill partner’s behavior.
Avoid trying to protect your partner by not discussing the problem
with family members or friends. Don’t require your children to
conspire
with you in a code of "Family Secrecy." Family secrets will isolate
you from others.
Humor and openness will help the entire family, including your
partner, accept the
illness for exactly what it is and reduce guilt for all family
members.  Remember that
small children, by their very nature, assume that they are
responsible for anything
in their environment that goes wrong.

11.  Never put yourself or your children in physical danger.  If you
sense
your partner is becoming dangerous, you should leave and call for
professional help.
You should never tolerate abuse of you or your children! Say NO and
mean it.
Trust your instincts and intuitions on this.

12.  Become your partner’s advocate with the medical professionals,
assertively
involved in treatment and medication. Don’t be afraid to go along to
appointments,
to call his/her psychiatrist if you suspect something isn’t right, or
to inform the
psychiatrist of the effects of the medication being prescribed.  If
the psychiatrist
won’t cooperate with you, demand a different one.  Stand your ground
assertively,
but try not to be a pain in the neck.  Treatment should involve the
entire family, so
find a professional who will work with the whole family.  You know
more about your
partner’s illness than anyone else.

13.  Coldly assess what your partner can and cannot handle, then
compensate
assertively.  Most people with severe mental illness cannot handle
money, some
household chores, time commitments, relatives or too much stress.  It
is not
uncommon for them to want to move all the time, searching for peace.
You
must not do things for your partner that s/he can do for her/himself.
Don’t rob
her/him of dignity.  Recognize the imperative need to create some
stability for
your family, financially and otherwise.  You will probably need to get
a job and
develop a career.

14.  Maintain your own identity.  Resist becoming consumed with his/
her illness.
Life goes on and you have an obligation to yourself and your children
to take
care of yourself and meet your own needs. We all must continue to
develop as
valuable human beings, so don’t play the martyr role and sacrifice
yourself.

15.   Always hope for healing.  The medications do work and new ones
are
being developed.  You may get your partner back whole some day.  If
nothing
else, the experience will broaden and deepen you in ways you never
imagined.
You can be a better person for it.  Or you can choose to let it
destroy you and
your family.  It is your choice.

16.  Keep in mind that bad things happen to almost anyone and you are
no
exception.  You have not been singled out for special persecution.
Trying to make good choices in life won’t protect you from
misfortune.
You haven’t been dumb to get yourself in this situation.
IT IS NOT YOUR FAULT. Life is not easy.  We have to take what we get
and make the
best of it.  “Bloom where you are planted.”

Principles of Support

·        We will see the individual first, not the illness.

·        We recognize that mental illnesses are brain disorders.

·        We aim for better coping skills.

·        We find strength in sharing experiences.

·        We reject stigma in ourselves and others.

·        We won’t judge anyone’s pain as less than our own.

·        We forgive ourselves and reject guilt.

·        We embrace humor as healthy.

·        We accept that we cannot resolve all problems.

·        We expect a better future in a realistic way.

·         We will never give up hope!

Thanks to NAMI of Missouri for reprint permission.
1-573-634-7727; 1-800-374-2138

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