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Most Child Abuse/Child Murder is Committed by Women

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JMC - 23 Nov 2005 20:48 GMT
Most child abuse and parental murder of children is committed by
mothers, not fathers.

Source: U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Administration on
Children, Youth, and Families, Child Maltreatment 1997: Reports from the
States to the National Child Abuse and Neglect Data System (Washington
DC, :GPO, 1999). See:
http://www.acf.dhhs.gov/programs/cb/public...ncands97/s7.htm.

Child abuse perpetrators are 62.3% female.  Child fatality perpetrators
are 62.8% female. The mother/father ratio is actually greater than this,
because many of the male abusers counted are not the biological fathers
but instead step‑fathers, boyfriends, etc.

Source on murders of children by single parents: U.S. Department of
Health and Human Services, National Center on Child Abuse and Neglect,
Third National Incidence Study Of Child Abuse and Neglect: Final Report
Appendices (Washington D.C., U.S. Department of Health and Human
Services, National Center on Child Abuse and Neglect, 1997, pp.
A‑63‑A‑64.  The estimated total is 264 parental murders of children
committed by single custodial mothers and 11 by single custodial
fathers.  There are roughly five times as many single custodial mothers
as single custodial fathers.

Source: Warren Farrell, Father and Child Reunion: How to Bring the Dads
We Need to the Children We Love, Penguin Putnam Inc, 2001, pp 75-77.
John Ainsworth - 23 Nov 2005 20:54 GMT
> Most child abuse and parental murder of children is committed by
> mothers, not fathers.
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> DC, :GPO, 1999). See:
> http://www.acf.dhhs.gov/programs/cb/public...ncands97/s7.htm.

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> Child abuse perpetrators are 62.3% female.  Child fatality perpetrators
> are 62.8% female. The mother/father ratio is actually greater than this,
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> Source: Warren Farrell, Father and Child Reunion: How to Bring the Dads
> We Need to the Children We Love, Penguin Putnam Inc, 2001, pp 75-77.
JMC - 23 Nov 2005 21:01 GMT
This link works:

http://www.acf.dhhs.gov/programs/cb/publications/ncands97/s7.htm

>>Most child abuse and parental murder of children is committed by
>>mothers, not fathers.
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>>Source: Warren Farrell, Father and Child Reunion: How to Bring the Dads
>>We Need to the Children We Love, Penguin Putnam Inc, 2001, pp 75-77.
sharkfood - 24 Nov 2005 00:46 GMT
I dont know about that - but it seems that most of the divorces, most
family breakups, broken homes,  which could be concidered abuse in
itself, are caused by women.
JMC - 24 Nov 2005 05:43 GMT
> I dont know about that - but it seems that most of the divorces, most
> family breakups, broken homes,  which could be concidered abuse in
> itself, are caused by women.

You've got that right. Women are destroying society. It's time to get
them back in the kitchen (and bedroom) where they belong.
GGGNH - 24 Nov 2005 15:43 GMT
> > I dont know about that - but it seems that most of the divorces, most
> > family breakups, broken homes,  which could be concidered abuse in
> > itself, are caused by women.
>
> You've got that right. Women are destroying society. It's time to get
> them back in the kitchen (and bedroom) where they belong.

I wondered when this was going to show up. Go to or return to soc.men.
They eat this stuff up over there.

GGG

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sharkfood - 25 Nov 2005 00:48 GMT
> > > I dont know about that - but it seems that most of the divorces, most
> > > family breakups, broken homes,  which could be concidered abuse in
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>
> GGG

 It's not needed over there - that would be preaching to the choir.
here is where it's needed.
GGGNH - 25 Nov 2005 01:08 GMT
> > > > I dont know about that - but it seems that most of the divorces, most
> > > > family breakups, broken homes,  which could be concidered abuse in
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>   It's not needed over there - that would be preaching to the choir.
> here is where it's needed.

Explain why it is needed here, please, without resorting to your
opinion. Care to actually quote some sources, resources, and stats?

GGG

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Jajaloo - 28 Nov 2005 05:07 GMT
> > > > > I dont know about that - but it seems that most of the divorces, most
> > > > > family breakups, broken homes,  which could be concidered abuse in
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> Explain why it is needed here, please, without resorting to your
> opinion. Care to actually quote some sources, resources, and stats?

Where would you post a fact or figure about divorce if not in
alt.support.divorce?

It is common knowledge that 2/3's to 70% of all divorces are initiated by
women and the reason is usually not abuse. Check out

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/06/06
/LVGJ96V2G61.DTL

Also, check out

  http://www.marriagebuilders.com/graphic/mbi8111_leave.html

John
John Riggs - 25 Nov 2005 04:15 GMT
>> > > I dont know about that - but it seems that most of the divorces, most
>> > > family breakups, broken homes,  which could be concidered abuse in
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>  It's not needed over there - that would be preaching to the choir.
> here is where it's needed.

Nope, not needed or wanted here either. Sorry.
GGGNH - 25 Nov 2005 14:29 GMT
> >> > > I dont know about that - but it seems that most of the divorces, most
> >> > > family breakups, broken homes,  which could be concidered abuse in
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>
> Nope, not needed or wanted here either. Sorry.

What I don't understand is how they think they have to preach anything.
They really think they are going to convert all the men in this NG to
think their way? If so, they are mentally ill. Oh, wait they most likely
are.

As far as preaching to the choir, I think that analogy is very much
wrong. As a church goer, I can attest to the fact that often the members
of the choir are not in step with the pastor. Some are there because
they think they can sing so grand that everyone wants to hear them. They
are as off base as the pastor can be.

GGG

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sharkfood - 26 Nov 2005 05:03 GMT
> >> > > I dont know about that - but it seems that most of the divorces, most
> >> > > family breakups, broken homes,  which could be concidered abuse in
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>
> Nope, not needed or wanted here either. Sorry.

your worthless opinion isn't wanted.
S.M.Serba - 24 Nov 2005 14:17 GMT
>I dont know about that - but it seems that most of the divorces, most
> family breakups, broken homes,  which could be concidered abuse in
> itself, are caused by women.

Um, I would say that divorces are initiated by woman more than men. But that
doesn't mean that the men aren't contributing to the reasons for divorces.
jbrianchamberlin@yahoo.com - 24 Nov 2005 15:19 GMT
>>I dont know about that - but it seems that most of the divorces, most
>> family breakups, broken homes,  which could be concidered abuse in
>> itself, are caused by women.
>
>Um, I would say that divorces are initiated by woman more than men. But that
>doesn't mean that the men aren't contributing to the reasons for divorces.

How can divorce be considered child abuse? I think it's much more
complicated then that.  I would imagine if that is true, then many
marriages could also be considered abuse. No? If that's true, don't
both cancel out one another therby making the entire comment  a
useless one?

--Brian
Doug Anderson - 24 Nov 2005 15:24 GMT
> >I dont know about that - but it seems that most of the divorces, most
> > family breakups, broken homes,  which could be concidered abuse in
> > itself, are caused by women.
>
> Um, I would say that divorces are initiated by woman more than men. But that
> doesn't mean that the men aren't contributing to the reasons for divorces.

Yes.  I think in the US there are records indicating that women
initiate more divorces.  But of course this says nothing about which
partner _caused_ the divorce.
John Riggs - 24 Nov 2005 16:26 GMT
   Of course we're contributing to the divorce.....we married them.
Without question, the single most common cause of divorce is marriage. ;^)

>>I dont know about that - but it seems that most of the divorces, most
>> family breakups, broken homes,  which could be concidered abuse in
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> that doesn't mean that the men aren't contributing to the reasons for
> divorces.
 
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