Wearing Wedding Rings
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mattinro - 24 Mar 2006 22:44 GMT I am wondering how people feel about wearing their wedding rings. I have never taken mine off since I put it on the day I got married. My wife seems to only wear it when we are going out together or when we are going to be with my family. She knows it bothers me when she doesn't wear it. She will go out with girlfriends dancing, to work, etc. not wearing them. but she will wear another ring I gave her on the opposite hand...? whats you take?
Jess - 24 Mar 2006 22:30 GMT >I am wondering how people feel about wearing their wedding rings. I wear both of mine, when they fit. But that's me, not your wife. :)
Jess
Handsome Jeremy - 24 Mar 2006 22:55 GMT >I am wondering how people feel about wearing their wedding rings. I > have never taken mine off since I put it on the day I got married. My [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > etc. not wearing them. but she will wear another ring I gave her on the > opposite hand...? whats you take? Come on now. You're either a troll or really really really really really really naive. WTF do you think it means when your wife doesn't wear it when she goes out? Think about the message that sends to the world. Next you'll be asking our opinion on your wife coming home with strange hickies and having used condoms in her purse.
DJL - 28 Apr 2006 20:11 GMT I don't wear a wedding ring - my wife would like me to though - and the reason is that more ladies are interested in me if I'm not married! I never lie though - and all ladies ask if I am married. Hasn't put many off sleeping with me. I probabaly would not hit on a married lady thoough - which is silly 'cos some of them are dead hot. Feel better now? She takes her ring off whe she goes out to give aclear message that at the very least she's up for attention and flirting1 DJL
> >I am wondering how people feel about wearing their wedding rings. I > > have never taken mine off since I put it on the day I got married. My [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > be asking our opinion on your wife coming home with strange hickies and > having used condoms in her purse. Ellie - 24 Mar 2006 23:07 GMT > I am wondering how people feel about wearing their wedding rings. I > have never taken mine off since I put it on the day I got married. My [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > etc. not wearing them. but she will wear another ring I gave her on the > opposite hand...? whats you take? My husband has never worn his ring after the wedding. He doesn't like anything on his fingers. But if bothered me he would get over his dislike without a second thought.
DrLith - 24 Mar 2006 23:11 GMT > I am wondering how people feel about wearing their wedding rings. I > have never taken mine off since I put it on the day I got married. My [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > etc. not wearing them. but she will wear another ring I gave her on the > opposite hand...? whats you take? Do you want to know how I feel about wearing my wedding ring, or how I feel about your wife not wearing hers, or how your wife feels about not wearing hers? 'Cause they're not the same questions, you know.
Ellie - 24 Mar 2006 23:12 GMT >> I am wondering how people feel about wearing their wedding rings. I >> have never taken mine off since I put it on the day I got married. My [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > feel about your wife not wearing hers, or how your wife feels about not > wearing hers? 'Cause they're not the same questions, you know. You just pick one of those questions and answer it - like I did!
DrLith - 25 Mar 2006 00:44 GMT >>> I am wondering how people feel about wearing their wedding rings. I >>> have never taken mine off since I put it on the day I got married. My [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > You just pick one of those questions and answer it - like I did! Well, my favorite of the three is "how I feel about wearing my wedding ring," 'cause the answer is "happy and proud"!
Tai - 25 Mar 2006 00:52 GMT >>>> I am wondering how people feel about wearing their wedding rings. I >>>> have never taken mine off since I put it on the day I got married. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Well, my favorite of the three is "how I feel about wearing my wedding > ring," 'cause the answer is "happy and proud"! Well, suuuure.... yours is still bright and perfect - the shine hasn't worn off yet...
Tai (running fast and scared......)
DrLith - 25 Mar 2006 01:06 GMT > Tai > (running fast and scared......) "My husband bought me a mood ring the other day. When I'm in a good mood, it turns green. When I'm in a bad mood, it leaves a big red mark on his forehead!"
Jess - 25 Mar 2006 01:05 GMT > "My husband bought me a mood ring the other day. When I'm in a good mood, > it turns green. When I'm in a bad mood, it leaves a big red mark on his > forehead!" *giggling*
...
*full blown laughter*
Jess
Tai - 25 Mar 2006 03:29 GMT >> Tai >> (running fast and scared......) > > "My husband bought me a mood ring the other day. When I'm in a good > mood, it turns green. When I'm in a bad mood, it leaves a big red mark > on his forehead!" hehehehehehe
You're wicked. :))
Tai
Kitty - 25 Mar 2006 03:59 GMT >> I am wondering how people feel about wearing their wedding rings. I >> have never taken mine off since I put it on the day I got married. My [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >feel about your wife not wearing hers, or how your wife feels about not >wearing hers? 'Cause they're not the same questions, you know. Being that matt already knows their relationship has serious issues, I wonder why this particular detail is important.
Jack C Lipton - 25 Mar 2006 15:13 GMT > Being that matt already knows their relationship > has serious issues, I wonder why this particular > detail is important. IMHO it's a diagnostic of *his* emotional state *because* it is important to him; apparently he is *at least* as insecure about "belonging" as I have been, so, when his wife doesn't wear the ring, it's *his* over-sensitivity to signs of rejection that causes his reaction.
So, really, he's co-dependant and has to deal, at some point, with his own identity, before worrying too greatly about the marriage.
That being said, I'd suspect she has a hair up her a.s over how clingy and omnipresent he tries to be...
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Ellie - 24 Mar 2006 23:14 GMT > I am wondering how people feel about wearing their wedding rings. I > have never taken mine off since I put it on the day I got married. My [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > etc. not wearing them. but she will wear another ring I gave her on the > opposite hand...? whats you take? By the way have you asked her why she doesn't wear it? What does she say? Does she like the ring?
Tai - 24 Mar 2006 23:47 GMT > I am wondering how people feel about wearing their wedding rings. I > have never taken mine off since I put it on the day I got married. My [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > etc. not wearing them. but she will wear another ring I gave her on > the opposite hand...? whats you take? I think you should ask her what the significance of her ring-wearing habit is. Perhaps they don't fit as well as they used to.
When my children were little I didn't wear my wedding or engagement rings at all for several years. My hands were constantly in water and I was concerned about scratching them so I stopped putting them on. I still don't wear them in the house and take my shoes, rings and watch off 3 seconds after walking in the door.
Occasionally I forget to put my rings on before going out but after a brief flash of panic over their whereabouts I forget all about them. On the other hand my husband hasn't taken his own wedding ring off for more than a few seconds, ever. I haven't worn my wedding ring at all for nearly 10 years because my husband gave me an eternity ring for our 15th wedding anniversary and and I literally can't stand wearing more than two rings on my finger. Something had to go.
Rings aren't what make me feel married. Do you think your wife feels married?
Tai
DrLith - 25 Mar 2006 01:06 GMT > I still don't wear them > in the house and take my shoes, rings and watch off 3 seconds after walking > in the door. > > Occasionally I forget to put my rings on before going out but after a brief > flash of panic over their whereabouts I forget all about them. I am so thoroughly bad about forgetting and losing things, especially jewelry, that I am seriously frightened to take off my wedding/engagement rings. Fortunately, I feel very comfortable wearing it--the only problem is I do sometimes wind up with it on at times when I really should have tucked it away--like painting or gardening or around on rocks. It's already a little dinged up!
My husband sometimes has to take it off at work. There's one guy he works with who just keeps it on a chain, and has for umpteen-odd decades, so that there's a groove worn in it from the chain. I'll admit, I like the fact that DH chooses to wear it visibly on his finger whenever possible!
Michael A. Ball - 26 Mar 2006 22:46 GMT >... >Rings aren't what make me feel married. Do you think your wife feels >married? Ooooooooh, that's a great question! I vote the answer is "no." :-(
A ring doesn't make me feel married, either. At least, it is not the only thing that makes me feel married. Although my wife ran away ten years ago, I still wear my wedding ring.
I suspect the OP considers her ring the last line of defense, perhaps for himself and/or their marriage. He probably thinks she will remain faithful, as long as she wears the ring. LOL. Maybe he'll read this and discover that wearing a ring doesn't guarantee fidelity, any more than the absence of a ring guarantees infidelity.
Some trees are ever green.
WhansaMi - 24 Mar 2006 23:55 GMT > I am wondering how people feel about wearing their wedding rings. I wear my wedding ring to work, because I have to wear a watch there, and as long as I have to wear jewelry and be uncomfortable, I might as well.
The moment I come home, off it (and the watch, and any earrings) comes. I don't wear it on weekends.
DH, OTOH, not only always wears his wedding ring, but the necklace I gave him when we first got together.
Different strokes.
Sheila
Jack C Lipton - 25 Mar 2006 00:04 GMT Speaking of ring-wearing, given my long list of insecurities, the ring provided me reassurance and so I've never been motivated to take it off, and, when off, I got uncomfortable, as if I am naked or otherwise adrift. (Yeah, that's a whole set of interesting symptoms, eh?)
At the same time my wife was rather more casual about her ring which bothered me-- but, then, the reassurance of belonging wasn't something she needed at the same level that I did, so the symbolism varied.
So mattinro's problem is in himself, not his wife, though I can see that it would not be too unreasonable to have a discussion about it.
There are a fair number of reasons to pull off the ring-- electrical and mechanical work, as a for instance-- but a lot depends upon how one feels when not wearing it.
How/s *that* for not answering the question?
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Nina - 25 Mar 2006 00:05 GMT >I am wondering how people feel about wearing their wedding rings. I >have never taken mine off since I put it on the day I got married. My [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >etc. not wearing them. but she will wear another ring I gave her on the >opposite hand...? whats you take? As other people have said, it's a matter of preference, and you really ought to just ask her.
I used to wear my wedding ring ALL the time, but I am really hard on rings, and I knocked the stone out a couple of times. When things went sour with the marriage... well before the divorce... I stopped wearing my ring at all. And I got out of the habit of wearing any rings.
These days I wear the ring that will be my wedding ring but is currently my engagement ring... I've never liked wearing two rings... but it's an adjustment, even though this is much more like a man's band, a thick gold band with a tiny diamond in it, designed so that I can't so easily knock out the stone.
Women's rings tend to be fussy and easily damaged, and a lot of people take them off. Men's rings tend to be smooth bands, less annoying and likely to catch on things, and most men who wear them at all tend to wear them all the time.
I should add that my fiancé loathes jewelry, and although he will have a ring for the ceremony, I really expect that he'll almost never wear it. Which is fine.
Kitty - 25 Mar 2006 03:57 GMT >I am wondering how people feel about wearing their wedding rings. I >have never taken mine off since I put it on the day I got married. My [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >etc. not wearing them. but she will wear another ring I gave her on the >opposite hand...? whats you take? That it's just another symptom of your relationship not going well
Stephanie - 25 Mar 2006 16:12 GMT >I am wondering how people feel about wearing their wedding rings. I > have never taken mine off since I put it on the day I got married. My [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > etc. not wearing them. but she will wear another ring I gave her on the > opposite hand...? whats you take? DH rarely wears his ring. It used to bug me. But then, we've taken apart 2 different sink traps to recover it after it was teetering on the edge of the sink while washing hands. It used to bug me. But it does not anymore. Our marriage is not rings and symbols for us. I wonder about one thing. When you make posts, you post about objective things. BUt you never mention your wife's response to your concerns. Do you tell/ask her about them?
Jack C Lipton - 25 Mar 2006 17:37 GMT > Marriage is not rings and symbols for us. Well, symbols are more important to those (like me) who've used them as a means to prop ourselves up emotionally.
When one has issues w/ rejection and are over-sensitive (to the point of looking for trivial things symbolizing rejection from our partner, all due to having weak self esteem) the ring is one of the possible focal points of "am I wanted?" "is my partner proud to be attached to me?" and so on. The problem is not whether one's partner is wearing their ring but what it ends up meaning to *us*.
The point is that the OP (mattinro) needs to deal with his own emotional vulnerability and figure out how to be more comfortable with who *he* is.
> I wonder about one thing. When you make posts, > you post about objective things. Realize that he posts things "objectively" but which are actually quite *subjective*. Meanings only come through when there's an emotional context-- which is what subjectivity is about.
> BUt you never > mention your wife's response to your concerns. > Do you tell/ask her about them? Some folks are too damnably afraid to deal with confrontation, perhaps because they don't want to expose their own vulnerabilities.
The OP in this thread sounds a lot like I would have some years ago-- trying to generalize "rules" where it's all variable and ambiguous.
(shakes head) So far from where I was but it seems I've barely moved towards an achievable goal.
Metrics in emotional growth are wonderful but it'd be nice if they were just a little bit less elastic and subject to relativity.
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Kitty - 26 Mar 2006 01:44 GMT >> Marriage is not rings and symbols for us. > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >and figure out how to be more comfortable >with who *he* is. But Matt is not in a good relationship, it has a lot of conflict and turmoil. Feeling insecure in that kind of a relationship is not necessarily a dysfunction. His reading that the ring may signify something may not be right in the relationship is no surprise, or something overblown in his head. His relationship *is* in trouble.
It's not like everything is just hunky dory, and all of a sudden he notices she's not wearing a ring and starts wondering if the relationship is in trouble, and needs reassurance to alleviate fears that may not be realistic.
mattinro - 27 Mar 2006 14:53 GMT > Well, symbols are more important to those > (like me) who've used them as a means to > prop ourselves up emotionally. I agree it is a symbol. Why would we even have to give each other the rings if it wasn't a symbol. I mean look at the way society pumps the "RING". it has been ingrained that it is something women charish.
> When one has issues w/ rejection and are > over-sensitive (to the point of looking for [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > partner is wearing their ring but what it > ends up meaning to *us*. I totally agree with Jack on the rejection and oversensitivity. I my be trivializing this but unfortunatley I have not other choice. I am looking at everything with a fine tooth comb, trying to figure out what the %#$& is going on. It has been over 8 months since she has shown any physical affection towards me, so you start to wonder and second guess things.
> The point is that the OP (mattinro) needs > to deal with his own emotional vulnerability > and figure out how to be more comfortable > with who *he* is. Yes I feel very vulnerable right now. I have been told by the person who said she wanted to spend the rest of her life with me that she hasn't been happy for a long time, she didn't think that she would be in the place she is at this age. She has told he she "HATES" me and isn't in love with me. Then she turns around and says that she does love me and she doesn't hate me. It is all over the board.
Not knowing what she feels about the relationship and getting a consistant feeling from her make me feel vulnerable about the realationship.
Yes, I am learning more and more about myself, after quiting POT (clean now for 1.8 years) and learning more about DW and the way she is. As my therapist said as I was leaving her office the last time I went - "Good luck"
> > I wonder about one thing. When you make posts, > > you post about objective things. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > would have some years ago-- trying to generalize > "rules" where it's all variable and ambiguous. Yes I gues I am generalizing things, trying to put them into context of what is a normal reaction to things. I know "NORMAL" could be anything, but when you come to this board you get a lot of different responses and you hopefully take the critizm and the praises and learn something from them.
> (shakes head) So far from where I was but it > seems I've barely moved towards an achievable [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > it'd be nice if they were just a little bit > less elastic and subject to relativity.
> -- > Jack C Lipton | cupasoup at pele dot cx | http://www.asstr.org/~CupaSoup/ > "HMOs: saving money one DOA at a time." - me Casey - 26 Mar 2006 23:05 GMT mattinro said
> She will go out with girlfriends dancing, to work, > etc. not wearing them. but she will wear another ring I gave her on the > opposite hand...? whats you take? As others have said, wearing a ring is no guarantee of anything.
However, I would wonder if she is trying to appear to be single while out with the "girls". If so, then you have a real problem and her habit of not wearing the ring is just a clue as to what is going on.
It's not about the ring - it's about what her intentions are.
Casey
mattinro - 27 Mar 2006 14:36 GMT That is what I am wondering about. I know that I am feelinginsecure about a lot of things in my relationship. It is obvious that it is in trouble. DW in the past says she has gotten a rash on that finger before. I know that having a ring on or off doesn't prove anything about the fidelity of a marriage. I just wonder about her motives on when and when not she wears it. I guess I brought it up here to get peoples opinions on their motives of wearing or noit wearing theirs.
I would bring it up to her, but that would just be like throwing more fuel on the fire.
Casey - 28 Mar 2006 05:48 GMT mattinro said
> That is what I am wondering about. I know that I am feelinginsecure > about a lot of things in my relationship. It is obvious that it is in [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > when and when not she wears it. I guess I brought it up here to get > peoples opinions on their motives of wearing or noit wearing theirs. I think you have a valid concern about the motive. I speak from my personal experience - somehow my ex lost the stone out of her traditional-looking wedding ring. When I took her to the store to replace the stone, she decided she wanted another ring instead - she said she wanted one that "didn't look so much like a wedding ring".
The alarm bells went off ... but like an idiot, I ignored them.
> I would bring it up to her, but that would just be like throwing more > fuel on the fire. Well, sometimes you have to risk a small burn to avoid being engulfed in a firestorm later.
Casey
AllYou! - 27 Mar 2006 15:24 GMT >I am wondering how people feel about wearing their wedding rings. I > have never taken mine off since I put it on the day I got married. My [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > the > opposite hand...? whats you take? Aren't you the one who had an affair with another? I'm not sure, but isn't that the case? If so, I think you need to suck it up.
As to the larger issue, to me, the point of getting married instead of simply living together is to proclaim your mutual commitment to the entire world. Wearing a ring is similar to that. So IMO, if someone wants to get married, but doesn't want to wear a ring, then what they're after is the best of both worlds. They want to proclaim their commitment to the world when it suits them, and they want their partner to make that proclamation to the world, but when there are little slices of time when they'd rather not be as obvious (e.g., a night out on the town, work, etc....) then they take the ring off.
mattinro - 27 Mar 2006 15:38 GMT > >I am wondering how people feel about wearing their wedding rings. I > > have never taken mine off since I put it on the day I got married. My [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Aren't you the one who had an affair with another? I'm not sure, but > isn't that the case? If so, I think you need to suck it up. Never had an affair.
> As to the larger issue, to me, the point of getting married instead of > simply living together is to proclaim your mutual commitment to the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > of time when they'd rather not be as obvious (e.g., a night out on the > town, work, etc....) then they take the ring off. I agree, I have never taken my ring off as to that commitment that you speak of. It is to the same point that we exchanged them in the first place. IF I knew that it wasn't a big deal to wear them then I would have spent the money to even buy them. I would have been more self centered and spent the money on myself.
AllYou! - 27 Mar 2006 16:39 GMT >> >I am wondering how people feel about wearing their wedding rings. I >> > have never taken mine off since I put it on the day I got married. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Never had an affair. My recollection was wrong. You're the guy who said that the only reason he got fired was for surfing porn at work and that you're a great husband, and that the only reason your DW has issues with you is because she can't get by the fact that you got fired.
>> As to the larger issue, to me, the point of getting married instead >> of [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > have spent the money to even buy them. I would have been more self > centered and spent the money on myself. You guys have major issues and it's very difficult to get to the truth. In the first series of exchanges we had several months ago, you claimed that going to the therapist was all about fixing HER issues and never acknowledged any of yours except for the porn surfing *mistake*.
I'd say that she's very dissatisfied with your marriage, and that she's wishing she was single. She may not be to the point of being able to verbalize that to you, but not wearing a ring and wanting to go out on a regular basis to dance clubs and some of the other stuff you've posted are the tell tale signs that she's not happy with being married to you, and is either sub-consciously (or even consciously) seeking something else.
My advise to you is that you'd better get a handle on why she feels this way, and it better be soon.
As to the little game she played with you, yes, it was a trap game. She's trying to avoid taking responsibility for her own actions, and she resents that you didn't let her off the hook. Shame on her, but that's only the tip of the ice berg. You need to ask yourself why SHE is unhappy with you. Now why you'd be unhappy with you, but why SHE is unhappy with you. The more you resist the answer to that question, the tougher it'll be to fix what's wrong. YOU might believe that you're a great husband, but that's irrelevant.
mattinro - 01 Apr 2006 14:09 GMT OK, so now I have been watching DW ring wearing habits. When she is with me in a social setting she will switch and put her big anniversary ring back on her ring finger. We went the other night to the kids open house. ON the way she didn't have it on her finger. then when we were walking around the kids svhoool i noitced it made it to her ring finger.
Last night she worked. Before work she went to a neighboorhoods house for a spa/foot cream party, where they sell foot creams. LIke thoe cablde party/ pampered chef parties. Anyway she left with it on her correct finger, where she had been whereing it all day. This morning after coming home from work, at the hospital. It wasn't on her ring finger. Earlier this week she had on several rings, one the anniversary ring,not on ring finger, and her Dads old class ring not on ring finger.
So she wears rings all the time just not on her ring finger.....??????? If I bring this up to her it will immediaetly cause a fight. her saying you "don''t trust me ..." ow can I bring this topic up?
Jack C Lipton - 01 Apr 2006 15:03 GMT > So she wears rings all the time just not > on her ring finger.....??????? Or on-and-off; like in a social setting to show you off.
BTW, did you know that folks who work in hospitals usually don't wear their rings? IIRC is has to do w/ gloving (constantly replaced, for instance) and it's *bad* to have a ring snag a glove. Add to that the skin *under* the ring which must be kept clean. It's about "infection control".
Once you get into those kinds of habits I could see how wearing *any* rings on a regular basis would be problematic-- all because you would not want to forget how you have to deal with work.
> If I bring this up to her it will > immediaetly cause a fight. her saying > you "don''t trust me ..." ow can I > bring this topic up? Start with "I still get to feeling very insecure-- yes, I know it's *my* problem, but it makes me paranoid-- so, hon, I pay more attention than usual to your ring wearing habits. Now I understand that your job influences these habits, but could you please explain it to me, too?"
Realize that your hypersensitivity to whether she's wearing a ring or not is *YOUR* problem, not hers, and that it is *YOU* that is over-reacting to what looks like a show of disloyalty.
I found my wife's ring-wearing habits hard to fathom (I try not to remove my own because it is an emotional crutch; this emotional myopia made it harder for me to believe she didn't feel the same about *her* rings) but it turned out that with her weight and water issues that there were times it was downright painful for her to even TRY to put it on... and painful to *keep* one on, too.
It took work (and a couple of "ah-ha!" moments) for me to outgrow this mistake in my perceptions.
First step: "Not everyone else feels the same way about an object that you do."
Trying to understand how another feels about their ring, for instance, may not be *easy* but being open to learning how another persons emotions work isn't a bad idea.
You won't learn anything from people who only tell you the things you want to hear.
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mattinro - 01 Apr 2006 17:31 GMT > BTW, did you know that folks who work in > hospitals usually don't wear their rings? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > kept clean. It's about "infection > control". DW works making beds and cleaning rooms, nothing to do with patients. She has said in the past referrring to her "divorced friend", "I have been looking for a Hot Dr. but havent seen any..."... for divorced friend... another weird statment. It is just weird how one night she comes home with it on the ring finger then the next not. She doesn't wear it more than she does on her ring finger. I notice if we go to my parents/family she puts on all of her rings. It only seems to be when she is with me in a social setting with other couples.
I know it is my problem as far as dealing with it. If I bring it up she will of course say that I don't trust her, that the ring isn't wait keeps us together... But why is it I feel the way I do, is it becuase she has shut me out for almost 9 months from any intamacy? maybe... becuase myself esteem has been shot to hell because she says I am not living up to her standard of what a husband should be.... so many variables that weigh into this. I do know that even mentioning this will cause a fight.
Jess - 01 Apr 2006 17:46 GMT > DW works making beds and cleaning rooms, nothing to do with patients. Where do the patients sleep, if not in beds? I can tell you from up front and personal experience that those beds get *nasty*, and yes, you have to glove up. Wedding bands are ok, rings with stones typically are not because they can snag a glove-yes, even just "changing sheets." When I did a round of clinicals, it was facility policy that rings with protruding stones had to go on a short chain around our necks and under our scrubs.
> I know it is my problem as far as dealing with it. If I bring it up she > will of course say that I don't trust her, that the ring isn't wait [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > variables that weigh into this. I do know that even mentioning this > will cause a fight. I think her rings are something visible you can point to and say "I'm secure because I don't see you wearing your rings and that makes me nervous that maybe you're taking those rings off because you don't feel as committed to our marriage anymore." I don't think it's her wearing the rings themselves that's making you twitch.
Jess
Jack C Lipton - 01 Apr 2006 20:20 GMT > DW works making beds and cleaning rooms, > nothing to do with patients. And everything to do with infection control.
If you don't think the housekeeping staff are even MORE paranoid about gloving than most of the others...
(shakes head)
Realize that stripping the sheets from a patient's bed is *not* a pleasant task, even if they look clean!
(snorts)
Matt, my wife is in the hospital, likely for another week to 10 days, and I do pay attention to a lot of the "systems" that are in place. Additionally, I have *worked* in health-care, primarily in IT gigs, the key of these on a bedside charting system, which was placed WHERE the patients are, so I'm more aware of the paranoia needed in this field.
Even subacute care is pretty demanding of close attention to infection control.
I don't think you'd be happy if she wore her ring and brought home MRSA.
I'm paranoid, all right? And I spent a lot of time being paranoid about the WRONG things. I suggest, if possible, that you look for a therapist who likes "cognitive behavioral therapy" so that you start looking at your *own* context and stop to figure out *why* you have the emotional reactions you're having.
I'll tell you right here and right now that this alone did the most for me in getting what passes for a mind on a more even keel... even though, as a sailor, I really like it when the boat leans.
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Mary_Gordon@tvo.org - 01 Apr 2006 19:50 GMT Its hard for me to fathom someone not wearing their wedding ring - because it isn't "just" a ring. For most of us from varying faiths, the wedding ring, particularly the one the woman wears, is part of the actual wedding ceremony and its a powerful symbol of enduring love and faithfulness - and a visual daily reminder to ME of my vows, as well as a cue to others that I am indeed a married woman (i.e. not available to be hit upon).
Once you are married, I can see the engagement ring being optional - I wear my mother in law's now that she is gone - my own engagement ring got lost several years ago. I mostly wear it because its pretty, but its also a nice reminder of my place in the chain of family and the power of marriage from generation to generation. My wedding ring stays put on my finger. If I had to do something where I had to take it off, which has happened...like when we were tiling a kitchen and I had grout all over my hands - I wear it on a chain around my neck.
My grandmother died after 57 years of marriage, and after she died, my grandfather wore her wedding ring on a chain around his neck. Its not just a piece of jewellry. Its a meaningful symbol. At least - it certainly is to me, and members of my family.
M. (18 years into the great adventure)
WhansaMi - 01 Apr 2006 19:55 GMT > Its hard for me to fathom someone not wearing their wedding ring - > because it isn't "just" a ring. For most of us from varying faiths, the [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > M. > (18 years into the great adventure) I don't attach great meaning to "things". I don't have many things that I would run back into a burning building for... as a matter of fact, I can't think of a single thing that I would run back into a burning building for. I don't keep momentos, I don't do pictures. I really like my rings, but would not be seriously upset if I lost them. I mean.... they can be replaced.
OTOH, I take my marriage very seriously. So, while I appreciate that, for you and for some others, wedding rings may be very, very meaningful, I would caution you about drawing the conclusion that because others do not find wedding bands meaningful, it reflects *anything* about how they feel about their marriage.
Sheila
shinypenny - 04 Apr 2006 02:44 GMT > > Its hard for me to fathom someone not wearing their wedding ring - > > because it isn't "just" a ring. For most of us from varying faiths, the [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > Sheila Missed this thread! I agree with Sheila and Ellie.
DH never takes his ring off. Part of that is sentimentalism; part of it is pure convenience and the fact he has big knuckles, and a very large part is because he's notorious for misplacing his car keys and wallet - in the house. He doesn't believe in jewelry boxes like I do!
I take my rings off every night - it's a set and you can't wear one without the other, but I also took my engagement ring off every night too. For one thing, it's uncomfortable to have it on - like wearing a bra to bed. For another, it's loose on my finger and I can't sleep with it on because I keep thinking it'll fall off in the night. I have contemplated getting it resized, but the reality is that I'm premenopausal and my ring size changes daily. Once you resize downward, it's difficult to resize back upward.
And on principle I don't like to shower or wash dishes with it because it gets all scuzzy or I worry about it washing down the drain, which for me would be absolutely horrible because my ring is *not* replaceable! It's a family heirloom, unlike Shiela I do get attached to some objects esp heirlooms, so I am verrrry careful not to loose it. So what happens is that I barely wear it while at home - but then again I don't wear any jewelry at home or to bed either. In fact, I'm also considering not even taking it on our honeymoon, for fear I'll lose it in the ocean.
Because I'm apt to take it on and off, the other day i went out and forgot to put it on because I was in a rush. I realized it belatedly, and then spent the whole day feeling like my finger was naked. But it wasn't because I was worried some guy might take that as meaning I was single or that I felt somehow less married! It was more like how I'd feel if I ran out of the house wearing a dress or suit with house slippers. I felt underdressed!
I think if you're *that* concerned about having some permanent outward sign on your body that you're married, then you should go and get your finger tattooed. I don't worry about the outward signs because inside I know I'm married.
As for the OP, if his DW doesn't want to appear married, it's simple enough to switch her ring from one had to the other. Lots of women wear right-hand rings these days. And at any rate, most guys at a bar aren't going to give two figs if a woman is wearing a ring or not - they'll still approach her. Some will think she's an easier/safer target if she appears unhappily married, or married but cruising for a no-commitment fling.
If she's routinely not wearing it out with her friends, but wears it outside the house at other times, my guess is either:
1) She's trying to make a statement to her DH she's unhappy with her marriage and already one foot out the door - but note, that is not *quite* the same as sending single signals to men (which she can just as easily do by switching the ring to the other hand). Since she's wearing it at other times, it does seem to me like a huge cry for attention from her hubby more than anything else.
2) She doesn't like the ring.
jen
Ellie - 04 Apr 2006 01:06 GMT > Its hard for me to fathom someone not wearing their wedding ring - > because it isn't "just" a ring. For most of us from varying faiths, the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > a cue to others that I am indeed a married woman (i.e. not available to > be hit upon). Though you seem to be talking about yourself (and even used uppercase ME!), I hear a generalized meaning in that paragraph that I sure don't agree with. Yes, for *some* people a wedding ring is more than a ring, and they assign a lot of meaning to it. For others it is, in fact, "just" a ring, and totally independent from their marriage. As for "particularly the one the woman wears", well, I so don't agree with any difference between the sexes when it comes to the *meaning* of wedding ring. Of course more women than men like jewelry and perhaps enjoy wearing them, but there is no more meaning for a woman than a man in my view.
To me, enduring love and faithfulness have no connections with rings, and though I love my wedding and engagement rings and wear them all the time, they don't remind me of much other than looking beautiful on my hand!
AllYou! - 03 Apr 2006 14:01 GMT > OK, so now I have been watching DW ring wearing habits. When she is > with me in a social setting she will switch and put her big [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > saying > you "don''t trust me ..." ow can I bring this topic up? Why are you so fixated on this one issue? You're wasting your energies. You're trying to treat the symptom instead of the disease.
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