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Marriage - the dumbest thing a man can do

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No Marriage - 09 May 2006 08:14 GMT
It's like cutting off your own balls and feeding them
to your cat.

Marriage is controlled by evil feminazis to turn men
into slaves and if they try to fight back, they'll
be financially castrated for life.

Intelligent men don't marry. Intelligent men read
soc.men and alt.misogyny and they know
that marriage MUST BE AVOIDED like
the plague.

And men who don't listen to the warnings,
they are losers and don't deserve any pity.

And don't forget :

All women are EVIL, nice women do not
exist.
dejablues - 09 May 2006 23:42 GMT
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> It's like cutting off your own balls and feeding them
> to your cat.
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> All women are EVIL, nice women do not
> exist.
Hyerdahl - 09 May 2006 23:48 GMT
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> > All women are EVIL, nice women do not
> > exist.

Here's the thing, blues....you will always have the blues because you
look at the glass as half empty, and empty it is because without a
wife, bitter boys like you can't have families.  That works for all of
us.  win-win
dejablues - 10 May 2006 00:52 GMT
> Here's the thing, blues....you will always have the blues because you
> look at the glass as half empty, and empty it is because without a
> wife, bitter boys like you can't have families.  That works for all of
> us.  win-win

um....I was in a mood and and decided to simply repost that "no
marriage"crap with the headers and without comment to bypass his x-no
archive. Cowards who x-no archive piss me off.
I've been happily married to the same great man for almost 19 years and am
raising three well-adjusted sons. No bitter boys here.
lukne - 10 May 2006 04:02 GMT
> X-No-Archive:yes
>
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> All women are EVIL, nice women do not
> exist.

Sweet!  Then don't get married.  No one will really care if you remain
a bachelor.
Jude Alexander - 15 Aug 2008 23:19 GMT
>> X-No-Archive:yes
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> Sweet!  Then don't get married.  No one will really care if you remain
> a bachelor.

What woman, who actually cares about herself in any positive manner, would
want him?
Kitty - 10 May 2006 05:29 GMT
> X-No-Archive:yes
>
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> All women are EVIL, nice women do not
> exist.

MARRY ME!
[sado-maso-khitty]
ackfugue - 10 May 2006 16:50 GMT
I think marriage works for some people, but I think that it fails to
work for the majority of people these days because, face it, there is a
lot of competition between men and women these days.  I will say this
much: women definetely look better doing it. hehehe. It sure makes me a
lot more anxious to wake up and go to work in the morning.
I'm not married, myself, and never have been. To me, it just looks too
scary and too chancy.  Even if you are happily married, I think that
people basically change through time, and certain things they didn't
find annoying before, suddenly become very annoying.  So, people
inevitably become annoyed by eachother by various traits. Maybe it
could be the way that they chew their food, or drink their coffee, or
how they snore, or how they do tasks.
>From a personal view, I don't want to feel I have to rely on someone
else for the choices in life.  When you get married, everything you do
has to be shared by both people.

I love the movie, Fight Club. I learned a lot of truth from that movie.
A quote I like is:

"We're a generation of men raised by women. I'm wondering if another
women is the answer we really need."

There's a lot of truth in that, especially since I was raised by a
single mom.
Hyerdahl - 10 May 2006 18:25 GMT
> I think marriage works for some people, but I think that it fails to
> work for the majority of people these days because, face it, there is a
> lot of competition between men and women these days.

[It isn't competition that causes marriages to fail;  rather, it's how
folks react to competition.  :-)  Insecure people will always begrude a
spouse their own success.]

I will say this much: women definetely look better doing it. hehehe.
It sure makes me a
> lot more anxious to wake up and go to work in the morning.
> I'm not married, myself, and never have been. To me, it just looks too
> scary and too chancy.

Well, marriage isn't the be-all-end-all when it comes to developing
good relationships, and the high divorce rate isn't encouraging.

Even if you are happily married, I think that people basically change
through time, and certain things they didn't find annoying before,
suddenly become very annoying.  So, people inevitably become annoyed by
eachother by various traits. Maybe it
> could be the way that they chew their food, or drink their coffee, or
> how they snore, or how they do tasks. >From a personal view, I don't want to feel I have to rely on someone> else for the choices in life.  When you get married, everything you do> has to be shared by both people.

Sure.  And I think being single works for many people.  Of course, it's
kind of nice having someone with whom to share, and it's nice to have
another person be a 'witness' to your life.  There are also issues of
intimacy and caring that you can't get without pair bonding, so when
you refuse to go down one road, you have to take the loss there.  And
that's A-ok because you have more choices on the road you have taken
that you could not otherwise take if you were married.

> I love the movie, Fight Club. I learned a lot of truth from that movie.
> A quote I like is:
>
> "We're a generation of men raised by women. I'm wondering if another
> women is the answer we really need."

That's just another way to blame women for the men who abandoned their
own kids.  Women aren't buying that particular snake oil.  But,
remaining single is still a valid choice.  And today, women are also
choosing the single life, over putting up with a man who might not
value them, equally.   Both are ok.

> There's a lot of truth in that, especially since I was raised by a
> single mom.

Why don't you stop looking foolish and go buy your own sacrificing
single mom a mother's day gift.   Perhaps you should blame your
abandoning dad, eh?
ackfugue - 11 May 2006 17:55 GMT
>That's just another way to blame women for the men who abandoned their
>own kids.  Women aren't buying that particular snake oil.  But,
>remaining single is still a valid choice.  And today, women are also
>choosing the single life, over putting up with a man who might not
>value them, equally.   Both are ok.

>Why don't you stop looking foolish and go buy your own sacrificing
>single mom a mother's day gift.   Perhaps you should blame your
>abandoning dad, eh?

I blame that SOB everyday, especially since he sent not one dime of
child support, ever. Of course, my mother did nothing about it.  Even
though it might not have been much, every little bit helps.  Where in
my response to the post did I blame her for anything? What I am saying
is that circumstances out of my control led me to be raised solely by a
single mother.  When I was 8 or 9 years old, I had a best friend that
lived down the street from me.  My best friend lived in an actual
family household with a father, a mother, a sister and a brother.
Suddenly, my mother and his father started dating behind his wife's
back.  His wife found out about it, and all hell broke loose, but he
still dated my mother anyway, and still lived at home.  Because of
their affair, I lost my best friend, and also became the butt of jokes
around the neighborhood, including the boy who was my best friend.  It
did a lot of emotional damage to me and my friend. What was especially
hard was getting on the school bus and the boy who used to be my best
friend now sat somewhere else.  That's a kind of drama that no kid
should have to go through. In other words: my mother didn't care what
it did to me, she was selfish and only thought of herself, sneaking
around with some wife's husband.
What is really f*cked up is that to this day my mother and he are still
DATING, after 27 years, and he STILL lives at home with his wife.  My
mother and he didn't just date, they have always had a sexual
relationship.  Now what kind of example does a mother set her for only
son by doing that sh.t?

You weren't there, so what do you know? I have reasons for feeling the
way I do.  Let's just say that I don't despise women, just harbor a
kind of animosity when I see women who sh.t all over men and blame them
for their predicaments.  They made the choices as well.  It takes two
people to make a baby.  What really pisses me off are all these young
girls having babies and not even being married, and then crying and
bitching about it when the man doesn't pay up.  I don't feel SORRY FOR
THEM!
Hyerdahl - 11 May 2006 19:14 GMT
> >That's just another way to blame women for the men who abandoned their
> >own kids.  Women aren't buying that particular snake oil.  But,
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> >single mom a mother's day gift.   Perhaps you should blame your
> >abandoning dad, eh?

I didn't have an abandoning dad, which is why I am the way I am today.
:-)  In fact, I was raised by a right wing couple.  :-)
>
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> it did to me, she was selfish and only thought of herself, sneaking
> around with some wife's husband.

Of course that is selfish.  No doubt about it.  Of course, your mother
was still single, whereas that man committed adultry, no?

> What is really f*cked up is that to this day my mother and he are still
> DATING, after 27 years, and he STILL lives at home with his wife.  My
> mother and he didn't just date, they have always had a sexual
> relationship.  Now what kind of example does a mother set her for only
> son by doing that sh.t?

A much better one than the mother who stayed and put up with it I
suspect.  :-)
After all, she's entitled to a better life, no?

> You weren't there, so what do you know?

Does that mean that I'm not entitled to an opinion?  Then why did you
ask for one?

I have reasons for feeling the> way I do.  Let's just say that I don't
despise women, just harbor a kind of animosity when I see women who
sh.t all over men and blame them
> for their predicaments.

Then you are pretending that a man who commits adultry is somehow not
as culpable as a single woman who has an affair.  You blame your mom
and that's ok, but I see more than one person here at fault for
providing bad role modeling.  :-)

They made the choices as well.  It takes two> people to make a baby.
What really pisses me off are all these young  girls having babies and
not even being married, and then crying and> bitching about it when the
man doesn't pay up.  I don't feel SORRY FOR> THEM!

I don't care who you feel sorry for and who you don't, but at least
you've recognized that it takes TWO to make a baby, and there is
responsibility in that.  I guess that's a start.
ackfugue - 12 May 2006 18:19 GMT
>Does that mean that I'm not entitled to an opinion?  Then why did you
>ask for one?

Sure you're entitled to your opinion! Just a friendly debate, is all.
All I was saying is that it's hard to really get someone else to
understand why I feel the way I feel if they weren't there to see it.
In other words: it's hard to really relay those emotions completely.
I'm surely not proud of the way I feel sometimes. As I get older, I
gradually put away those feelings of animosity, and I am happy to say
that they are dissipating, but once in a while they do pop up. That's
when I take some deep breaths and realize that other women are not
responsible for my problems.  I have had a hard time staying in
relationships, even though I am completely attracted to women.  It's
certainly not because I am controlling, but it's because I have some
kind of fear about women.  I'm always scared of getting hurt, or that
I'm not pleasing them. It's really difficult to say. I've went to
counseling about it, but I've been more or less trying to overcome it
on my own and learn to just relax.  I hope that one day I will recover
completely.  Until that time, I think I would be a bad candidate for
marriage, obviously.

>Then you are pretending that a man who commits adultry is somehow not
>as culpable as a single woman who has an affair.  You blame your mom
>and that's ok, but I see more than one person here at fault for
>providing bad role modeling.  :-)

And I have already thought about it from that angle. But, you see, he
wasn't responsible for me, she was.  So, really, it was up to HER to
make the choice of what was better for me. The fact that she has let
this affair linger on with him for all these years, to me, doesn't
benefit her at all. It only testifies to her lack of ethics and
amplifies a lack of respect for herself, as well as me (when I was a
child). I remember crying all the time when they were first together.
They would go somewhere, and take me with them, I suppose to get me
used to it, but I didn't.  After so long, however, I had to accept it
to it, but that doesn't mean I agreed with it.  I was hurt very deeply
by it.  I can't fully explain why, but I think it was because I felt my
mother was being taken away from me, and also because I lost my best
friend and I somehow felt betrayed.  That kind of thing you never
forget.  Though my animosity, as I said, has dissipated over the years,
it doesn't leave me completely.  I think he was a real bastard, of
course!   Of course I blame him as well, but moreso her because she was
the one reponsible for ME when it comes down to it. I thought that was
very selfish of her.  She saw how much it was hurting me, yet she
continued to have the affair.
Hyerdahl - 13 May 2006 06:07 GMT
>  Sure you're entitled to your opinion! Just a friendly debate, is all.
> All I was saying is that it's hard to really get someone else to
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> completely.  Until that time, I think I would be a bad candidate for
> marriage, obviously.

That sounds like you have a plan,  so that seems a good thing.

> >Then you are pretending that a man who commits adultry is somehow not
> >as culpable as a single woman who has an affair.  You blame your mom
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> wasn't responsible for me, she was.  So, really, it was up to HER to
> make the choice of what was better for me.

Did you know that studies show that men cheat more than women?    Yes,
I know that doesn't help you with your personal situation but there it
is anyway.

The fact that she has let> this affair linger on with him for all
these years, to me, doesn't
> benefit her at all. It only testifies to her lack of ethics and
> amplifies a lack of respect for herself, as well as me (when I was a
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> very selfish of her.  She saw how much it was hurting me, yet she
> continued to have the affair.

Well, good parents don't do that to their kids.  But what was your
father doing while all this was going on?  Was he a saint?
ackfugue - 13 May 2006 16:47 GMT
>But what was your
>father doing while all this was going on?  Was he a saint?

I have no idea because after their divorce when I was barely a year
old, he hardly stayed in touch. I saw him maybe once every 5 years up
until I was 14. After that, he never kept it in touch.  But don't
worry, I have more dislike/hate for him that I do anyone in the world.
Hyerdahl - 13 May 2006 17:13 GMT
> >But what was your
> >father doing while all this was going on?  Was he a saint?
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> until I was 14. After that, he never kept it in touch.  But don't
> worry, I have more dislike/hate for him that I do anyone in the world.

I'm not (for a minute) suggesting that what your mother did was right,
but rather, that paternal abandonment does more harm to children than
mothers who stay.  And, in the end, it does no eartly good to hate your
parents.  Better to light a candle than to curse the darkness.
RonW - 12 May 2006 14:34 GMT
<All women are EVIL, nice women do not
exist. >

People who tend to lose alot at any game usually have that sour grapes
mentality you are showing. I suppose it's their (your) way of making
yourself feel better.

Telling yourself there aren't any nice women out there I guess is one
way to take away the motivation to try and find one.  And since there
aren't any nice women worth looking for, then obviously marriage would
be a waste of your time as well.

Well, I will tell you that there are nice women out there - however,
you have to work at finding them because they aren't going to drop into
your lap.  

Marriage is a worthwhile experience.  

RW
Ian - 13 May 2006 16:57 GMT
> Intelligent men don't marry. Intelligent men read
> soc.men and alt.misogyny and they know
> that marriage MUST BE AVOIDED like
> the plague.

Quite. There's no way I'm ever going to marry. There's enough porn on
the internet to keep me going. Intelligent women don't marry either.
Tai - 14 May 2006 08:45 GMT
>> Intelligent men don't marry. Intelligent men read
>> soc.men and alt.misogyny and they know
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> Quite. There's no way I'm ever going to marry. There's enough porn on
> the internet to keep me going. Intelligent women don't marry either.

Good idea. You wouldn't want to get too close to a woman, they're nasty
sticky creatures and you might catch girl germs.

Tai
Jude Alexander - 15 Aug 2008 23:18 GMT
> X-No-Archive:yes
>
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> All women are EVIL, nice women do not
> exist.

Funny, but that's EXACTLY what most men did to women for HISTORY!  LOL  They
took ALL power away from them in ruling, decision making and made them
baby-making, husband coddling, uneducated children.  Marriage was us men's
invention to make sure that OUR property was passed on to OUR sons.  DUH

But reason, logic & facts never gets very far with emotional stunted people
like you.

Having said all that, I don't claim that there aren't vicious women out
there.  That deserves yet another DUH

Grow up.  There are evil men and women and, otoh, there are decent men and
women, and some of us are struggling in between.
Blue - 16 Aug 2008 00:37 GMT
>> X-No-Archive:yes
>>
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>> All women are EVIL, nice women do not
>> exist.

---Poorly written troll---noone of the grace of goat sex---

Common law far worse.

If no children is your choice, then either get snipped or go invisible
offering little in prospects. She needs to not want you around and
that is your choice (be a little selfish in the right areas rather
then abusive, some women have a preference for abuse but none can play
second fiddle).

If you believe there's no good women out there, you're wrong. Most of
the mens' movement was started and is maintained by women (often seems
that way). Media fights to keep the good stuff away from public
consumption because it means losing the most predictable and reliable
demographic, business has ever known.

The reasons why, is the utter failure of our judges and the abuse
industry/lobby and special interest groups that arose from the ashes..
Sean_MacCloud@yahoo.com - 16 Aug 2008 01:04 GMT
> Funny, but that's EXACTLY what most men did to women for HISTORY!  LOL  They
> took ALL power away from them in ruling, decision making and made them
> baby-making, husband coddling, uneducated children.  Marriage was us men's
> invention to make sure that OUR property was passed on to OUR sons.  

This gets into "evolution" itself. It is not an arbitrary creation of
patriarchy. Ie we don't come from an equal place made unequal by men
"giving" property to sons etc.

Male deer are not in conspiracy to keep female deer from growing
antlers. And male humans are not in conspiracy to keep females from
fighting over stuff and land.

I'm too fatigued to repeatedly explain it all to creatures impervious
to reason anyway.

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And this is some digging up of the dead... Last post: May 2006.

And female humans are children by and large.
Jude Alexander - 16 Aug 2008 01:26 GMT
On Aug 15, 6:18 pm, "Jude Alexander" <A ca...@thebayou.wet> wrote:
> "No Marriage" <nomarri...@marriageistheworkofSATAN.org> wrote in message
>
> news:e3pfe8$394$1@emma.aioe.org...

> Funny, but that's EXACTLY what most men did to women for HISTORY! LOL They
> took ALL power away from them in ruling, decision making and made them
> baby-making, husband coddling, uneducated children. Marriage was us men's
> invention to make sure that OUR property was passed on to OUR sons.

This gets into "evolution" itself. It is not an arbitrary creation of
patriarchy. Ie we don't come from an equal place made unequal by men
"giving" property to sons etc.

Male deer are not in conspiracy to keep female deer from growing
antlers. And male humans are not in conspiracy to keep females from
fighting over stuff and land.

I'm too fatigued to repeatedly explain it all to creatures impervious
to reason anyway.

We have BRAINS, dumbass!  We don't go into heat, a.shole.  What do ANTLERS
have to do with DECISIONS made by men to use their greater strength to their
advantage?  DUH.  Whose the dummie here??? LOL

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And this is some digging up of the dead... Last post: May 2006.

And female humans are children by and large.

Oh, how sexist of you, twat...
Sean_MacCloud@yahoo.com - 16 Aug 2008 03:12 GMT
> <Sean_MacCl...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
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> I'm too fatigued to repeatedly explain it all to creatures impervious
> to reason anyway.

> We have BRAINS, dumbass!  We don't go into heat, a.shole.  What do ANTLERS
> have to do with DECISIONS made by men to use their greater strength to their
> advantage?  DUH.  Whose the dummie here??? LOL

Idiot.

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Behold your informed democracy.

As said "I'm too fatigued to repeatedly explain it all to creatures
impervious to reason anyway."
Jude Alexander - 16 Aug 2008 16:31 GMT
On Aug 15, 8:26 pm, "Jude Alexander" <A ca...@thebayou.wet> wrote:
> <Sean_MacCl...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
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> I'm too fatigued to repeatedly explain it all to creatures impervious
> to reason anyway.

> We have BRAINS, dumbass! We don't go into heat, a.shole. What do ANTLERS
> have to do with DECISIONS made by men to use their greater strength to
> their
> advantage? DUH. Whose the dummie here??? LOL

Idiot.

Behold YOUR uninformed stupidity!  lol

We're animals, yes, and, to a certain extent, we can be compared to them.
However, anybody with half an education knows that there's a point that a
comparison is no longer viable.  May I add..... DUH

----------
Behold your informed democracy.

As said "I'm too fatigued to repeatedly explain it all to creatures
impervious to reason anyway."
Ben - 19 Aug 2008 11:40 GMT
> <Sean_MacCl...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
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> As said "I'm too fatigued to repeatedly explain it all to creatures
> impervious to reason anyway

And you resurrected a two year old thread why?
Jude Alexander - 19 Aug 2008 14:43 GMT
On Aug 16, 11:31 am, "Jude Alexander" <A ca...@thebayou.wet> wrote:
> <Sean_MacCl...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
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> As said "I'm too fatigued to repeatedly explain it all to creatures
> impervious to reason anyway

And you resurrected a two year old thread why?

And you're responding to the same... why?
Ben - 19 Aug 2008 17:12 GMT
> On Aug 16, 11:31 am, "Jude Alexander" <A ca...@thebayou.wet> wrote:
>
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>
> And you're responding to the same... why?

Hmmm...could it have something to do with the fact that I'm not the
one replying to a two year old thread?  Maybe?
Jude Alexander - 19 Aug 2008 22:06 GMT
On Aug 19, 9:43 am, "Jude Alexander" <A ca...@thebayou.wet> wrote:
> "Ben" <ArGe...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
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>
> And you're responding to the same... why?

Hmmm...could it have something to do with the fact that I'm not the
one replying to a two year old thread?  Maybe?

And your point is.... :)
Ben - 20 Aug 2008 15:47 GMT
> On Aug 19, 9:43 am, "Jude Alexander" <A ca...@thebayou.wet> wrote:
>
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>
> And your point is.... :)-

I wasn't really looking to make a point, unless you consider my
curiousity as to why you were bringing a two year old thread back a
point in and of itself.  Clearly, something prompted you to do this
and I was wondering what it was.
Jude Alexander - 21 Aug 2008 13:24 GMT
On Aug 19, 5:06 pm, "Jude Alexander" <A ca...@thebayou.wet> wrote:
> "Ben" <ArGe...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
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>
> And your point is.... :)-

I wasn't really looking to make a point, unless you consider my
curiousity as to why you were bringing a two year old thread back a
point in and of itself.  Clearly, something prompted you to do this
and I was wondering what it was.

Because I wanted to.  Enough already?
Ben - 21 Aug 2008 15:44 GMT
> On Aug 19, 5:06 pm, "Jude Alexander" <A ca...@thebayou.wet> wrote:
>
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>
> Because I wanted to.

OIC, trolling.

> Enough already?

Depends--I'm game if you are.
Jude Alexander - 21 Aug 2008 19:55 GMT
This is the response you deserve....

If you can't get it, (if I have to explain)  it's a blank post.
Ben - 21 Aug 2008 23:39 GMT
> This is the response you deserve....
>
> If you can't get it, (if I have to explain)  it's a blank post.

It's been a blank post since August 15th.  You're somewhat slow.
Jude Alexander - 22 Aug 2008 02:22 GMT
 
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