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Advice wanted- Should I date this guy or not?

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kissoflily@gmail.com - 23 Jan 2007 20:49 GMT
Hello,
       I just started to date this guy who is 6 years older than I am.
I am 22. He is more into me at the moment, and if I decide to take this
to the next level, this will be my first relationship and his second.
The thing is he is more experienced than I am and just recently came
out of a relationship. So I'm not sure if he is ready for another one
so soon. he is a very nice, and smart guy, but I'm not sure if I want
to be constantly compared to his ex and that will be unfair to me and
exhausting, considering I'm still in school and all. I would not want
him to just put 60% into this when I would be putting 100%.
       So how can I be sure that he is not just looking for a fast
replacement, or serious about starting something new with me? Please
help.
       Lily.
Olivier - 23 Jan 2007 21:06 GMT
The question that I have is: do you think that you have the same
maturity level and can expect it to remain the case.

He is only 16. Unless he is extremely mature ( a sign of that may be
that he typically hangs out with older people ), I think it is gonna
hurt your relationship.

If he constantly compares you to his ex, that may indicate that he's
not into a relationship with you (that would fall into the "fast
replacement" category, and indicate that your relationship would
struggle).

Now my question is does he indeed constantly compares you to his ex? Or
is it just a fear of yours?

I don't know to which extend the "considering I'm still in school and
all" is relevant.

> Hello,
>         I just started to date this guy who is 6 years older than I am.
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> help.
>         Lily.
zorra - 23 Jan 2007 21:26 GMT
> The question that I have is: do you think that you have the same
> maturity level and can expect it to remain the case.
>
> He is only 16. Unless he is extremely mature ( a sign of that may be
> that he typically hangs out with older people ), I think it is gonna
> hurt your relationship.

I think you misread -- she's 22, he's 28.

>> Hello,
>>         I just started to date this guy who is 6 years older than I
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>> help.
>>         Lily.
Michael A. Ball - 23 Jan 2007 22:42 GMT
>        I just started to date this guy who is 6 years older than I am.
>I am 22..
>        So how can I be sure that he is not just looking for a fast
>replacement, or serious about starting something new with me? Please
>help.

You said, "He is more into me at the moment." Does "into" translate to
"interested in"? He is more into [interested in] you than into
[interested in] what/who else?

At 22, you don't have to be in a hurry, and you don't have to settle for
anyone who can't take it slowly. You didn't indicate that he is
pressuring you or trying to rush things, but you do seem reasonably
concerned.

Being six years your senior does mean that he has had opportunity for
more experiences; whether that has happened or not is difficult to know.
I've met people much younger than me who have experienced far more--some
good, some bad. By more experienced, do you mean he has had more
romances? That's reasonable.

Most of us don't like being compared to a former boy/girl, but when you
get right down to it, it shouldn't make any difference. We all make
comparisons, and I don't see any harm in that, unless we start expecting
the new person to be the former person.

Among us older people, we expect to be compared, but there are a few
ground rules, for example: we don't want to keep hearing about the
person who came before us--no matter how good that person was or how
much alike we are. We don't want to hear endless condemnation of that
person. After all, we might be in their shoes someday.

My point is that you shouldn't be too concerned about being compared. He
has had six more years than you to learn to be discrete. If he isn't
wise enough to keep his comparisons discrete, you'll know it, and know
that he probably should be replaced.

As for your question of how to "be sure...", Control the pace! If he
can't handle your pace, you'll have your answer.

________________________
Experience is something you don't get--until just after you need it.
Rog' - 23 Jan 2007 23:14 GMT
>     I just started to date this guy who is 6 years older than I am.
> I am 22. He is more into me at the moment, and if I decide to
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> So how can I be sure that he is not just looking for a fast
> replacement, or serious about starting something new with me?

Can you spell "rebound?" That's what I think you are for him.  It
is natural and inevitable that he will make some comparisons btw.
you and his last GF, but making you uncomfortable by verbalizing
this is, IMHO, an clear sign that he's not sufficiently detached and
perhaps, too needy or controlling.  I think that its too soon for him.

If you think that he has "potential" and want to give him a chance,
tell him that you need to slow things down. If he respects you, he'll
accept that. OTOH, if you prefer break it off and move on, tell him
that there's just too much on your plate to get involved.  =R=
kissoflily@gmail.com - 24 Jan 2007 03:43 GMT
Thanks for the follow ups guys
just to clarify, i do think this guy has a lot of potentials and our
interests do match.
no he has not compared me to his ex overtly, well, i don't know what
he's thinking of course. but the thing is he was with his last gf for
several years since they met in college, and i think what happened is
that she dumped him for some older richer man. So my worry not only
lies on whether if he's making comparisons, but specifically if he's
suspicous of my intentions, since he has a good job and some status
(i'm only a student right now). as far as pace is concerned, at first
he seemed quite needy,(we've been seeing each other for a bit over a
month and a half),  but now it cooled off a little and he seems to be
taking things my pace now.
by the way he behaved so far, i can tell he is obviously not just
trying to get into my pants.
so now i wonder what kind of questions i can ask him or what i can do
to make sure he is ready?

lily

> <kissofl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >     I just started to date this guy who is 6 years older than I am.
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> accept that. OTOH, if you prefer break it off and move on, tell him
> that there's just too much on your plate to get involved.  =R=
zorra - 24 Jan 2007 03:55 GMT
> so now i wonder what kind of questions i can ask him or what i can
> do
> to make sure he is ready?

You don't ask him questions, per se.  You date him.  You take things
as slowly as you want.  You understand that despite your best
intentions and his, that this might not work out for any number of
reasons.  And if as time goes on he does have trouble trusting you, or
he does seem stuck on his ex, it will come out.  There are not
questions you can ask up front to guarantee a perfect relationship.

Zorra
Bill in Co. - 24 Jan 2007 04:11 GMT
>> so now i wonder what kind of questions i can ask him or what i can
>> do
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>
> Zorra

Adding to that, there are NO "perfect relationships" (at least, given the
test of time, and in having real responsibilities - like a family)
zorra - 24 Jan 2007 04:26 GMT
>>> so now i wonder what kind of questions i can ask him or what i can
>>> do
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> given the
> test of time, and in having real responsibilities - like a family)

Yes, of course that's true too.

Zorra
Larry G. - 24 Jan 2007 04:57 GMT
> Thanks for the follow ups guys
> just to clarify, i do think this guy has a lot of potentials and our
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>
> lily

The really important questions right now are the ones you should
be asking *yourself* first, before worrying about asking someone
else.

1. What do you really want to accomplish with your life?
2. What kind of relationships will help you achieve these
goals?
3. Do you really know what makes YOU the way you are, and
become involved with the people in your life?

When you can answer these, then you may be ready to begin
seriously considering long term relationships.  Until then,
dating is fine, and fun.  But please, do not mislead those
who may be wanting a long term relationship if you are not
ready or willing to pursue it also.

The young man you refer to, may be looking for a long term
mate.  You have yet to complete your schooling.  You've
identified some potential trouble areas.  However, I would
like to add a few you may not have considered, or at least
didn't mention.

- Love is not sufficient to guarantee a good marriage.
- People often enter into relationships to resolve unfinished
business from their past, especially their childhood.
- In the early stages of love, thrill and fantasy dominate
your thoughts and actions.  This can be dangerous, although
you seem to have a level head on your shoulders.
- Do not let passion or sympathy result in an unwanted
pregnancy.  The entire course of your life can change as the
result of a moment's recklessness.

However, once you figure out what you want, and are ready for
a long term relationship, remember that you will have to work
with who/what is available.  It could be that this young man
is a good match for you and that if you let him slip by,
you may spend years wondering what would have happened if . . .

But if you aren't ready, just say so, and make sure that he
hears you.

Best of luck,
Larry G.

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Vulnero - 25 Jan 2007 00:24 GMT
On Jan 23, 9:43 pm, kissofl...@gmail.com wrote:
> Thanks for the follow ups guys
> just to clarify, i do think this guy has a lot of potentials and our
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> lily

So far it seems like you are mostly worried about what he might be
thinking (comparing you to his ex, or being suspicious of you).  I
think it's usually a waste of time and energy to worry about what
_might_ happen or what someone _might_ think.  If it is something that
really bothers you, go ahead and ask him about it.  You might find out,
for example, that he has been comparing you to his ex and that he
thinks you are way better than his ex.

If you think he might be suspicious of your intentions, then ask him
about it.  If it is something he is concerned about, then you can tell
him what your intentions are.

If you click with him, then my advice is to stop worrying about the
relationship, and put your energy into enjoying it.  Give it time to
grow, and see where it takes you.  In time you will come to know
whether he is a good match for you or not.  You don't need to figure
that out right now.
lily - 25 Jan 2007 00:36 GMT
haha,
that'd be great if he thinks i'm way better.
anyhow, he actually doesn't know this would be my first relationship, i
never talked about it yet.
but i'm much more cheerful now. i will definitely stop worrying and try
to enjoy it.
thanks .
lily

> On Jan 23, 9:43 pm, kissofl...@gmail.com wrote:
>
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> whether he is a good match for you or not.  You don't need to figure
> that out right now.- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -
DrLith - 26 Jan 2007 13:06 GMT
> haha,
> that'd be great if he thinks i'm way better.

Yeah, but if he doesn't think you're way better, why do you think the
relationship would, or should, last?
Rog' - 26 Jan 2007 13:23 GMT
> lily wrote:  haha, that'd be great if he thinks i'm way better.
> Yeah, but if he doesn't think you're way better, why do you
> think the relationship would, or should, last?

IMO, it doesn't matter whether or not someone is "way better"
or not, what matters is whether or not someone is better in the
specific areas in which he has the most need or desires.  For
example, I'd like to say that my current wife was way better in
looks or in bed than my ex.  Frankly, she's not.

But she's way better in common sense, loyalty, social skills,
helpfulness, and emotional stability.  We all have different
strengths and weaknesses, and what we bring to the table for
one person may or may not be what works best for them.
=R=
I've developed a new philosophy... I only dread one day at a time.
--- Charles Schulz (Charlie Brown in Peanuts)
Vulnero - 27 Jan 2007 18:05 GMT
> > haha,
> > that'd be great if he thinks i'm way better.Yeah, but if he doesn't think you're way better, why do you think the
> relationship would, or should, last?

At this point, I don't think it really matters that much how he
compares her to his ex.  They are just starting out, and they really
don't know each other very well.  The relationship may or may not
last, but I don't think anyone can predict that right now.  They
really need to get to know each other better.
Atalanta, O.G. - 25 Jan 2007 00:48 GMT
On Jan 23, 7:43 pm, kissofl...@gmail.com wrote:
> Thanks for the follow ups guys
> just to clarify, i do think this guy has a lot of potentials and our
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> so now i wonder what kind of questions i can ask him or what i can do
> to make sure he is ready?

Congratulations on being such an incredibly insightful young woman!

There are a bunch of questions you can mull over - both for yourself
and for him.  In fact, it would be interesting to think about what *he*
should be asking *you* right about now - and whether he is asking those
questions.  Guys, IME, sometimes lag in the "relationship question
asking" department.

If he's in love with you, as it seems (reading between the lines) and
you aren't actually smitten by him at this point in time, you may ask
yourself:

1.  Have I been in love before and how would I know if I was "in love"?
If you have never been in love, then you may not know what it feels
like.  Some people seem to be born knowing how it feels, others stumble
into it - and a lot of us just plain don't know.  But, it sounds to my
ear (I have two daughters about your age) that you are NOT in love with
him - yet.

2.  That last time you were in love (if you were) - was that really
love?   Do you want to do it the same way next time?

3.  Note that being the chased-after partner gives a person a certain
amount of power (which then must be used ethically and kindly) - but
it's almost never the case that two people equally pursue each other
with the same amount of zest.  Does it feel good (a little, maybe?) to
feel pursued - by an older guy, no less?

4.  I'm doubting you know what "needy" means at your age (simply not
enough life experience - I find out more and more, as I get older, that
there's always a person more "needy" than the one I thought was pretty
needy, and so on.)  Sounds like he fell for you, pursued you intensely,
realized the consequences of that (we don't always like to be herded
around by an excited boyfriend), and has responded.  That's GOOD
relationship material - you should certainly try to work on this
relationship, if only for practice.  Leaving this relationship now will
NOT get you the practice you're about to get - and even if someone's
heart hurts later (and someone's might), there are a bunch of reasons
to pursue *this* relationship much further - not the least of which is
that you've found a smart, adaptable, courteous, relatively unselfish
young man who is in love with you!

So how come you're not in love with him?  I think your analogy with his
ex-girlfriend (the Golddigger) comes from somewhere - and I don't think
you're a Golddigger, at all.  I think, instead, you might be feeling
that he's giving you Solid Gold Love and you're not giving that back.
That could be very true - and a real adult person (like this boyfriend
is trying to be) can DEAL with that - you can fall in love with him
slowly.  There's tons of movies on this, watch all of them (together -
but not sequentially...that would be too much of a good thing).

Are you really, after all, asking opinions about specific aspects of
your relationship (such as sexuality or finances)?

Do you think there are questions you could ask him that would make you
fall in love with him (if you're not)?

A.

> lily
>
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> > accept that. OTOH, if you prefer break it off and move on, tell him
> > that there's just too much on your plate to get involved.  =R=
 
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