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my wifes attitude....

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nando - 26 Jan 2007 23:29 GMT
Hello,

I believe marriage is one of the most amazing things one can experience. Good
or bad, we learn more about life, and the things that make life beautiful. I
have been married for 1 1/2 years. My wife, is GREAT, she has a daughter, and
raised her practically herself. Her ex was very bossy with her, had complete
control of her. She never got to do anything, like visit her friends, visit
her family. Years later, she finally got out of it. I met her about a year
and half after she left her ex. Like in all relationship, at first it was
amazing, and we fell in love very deep. I told her, one day you will be my
wife. 3 years later we got married. Which brings me to this point. She has
this "thing" about her that drive me nuts. She has such a bad attitude all
the time. I'm one of those husbands, who helps around the house. We both have
careers, and I don't expect her to cook all the time, or to clean always. We
share this 50/50. I spoil her like no one has ever has. And her daughter I
see her as my own, which I love very much too. My wife thinks that im trying
to control her, to boss her around. Example. she decides to go out with her
friends, which im fine with, but if I ask her, how come she doesn't let me
know, or ask me if im ok with it, she says, I don't need your permission to
go out. I tell her, Im not saying that, but you should let me know what your
plans are. The arguments get really ugly sometimes, and I don't want to fight
with her. So a lot of the times I just don't say anything to avoid a conflict,
even though inside I am very mad.....   any advice ???

thanks
Tai - 27 Jan 2007 00:02 GMT
> Hello,
>
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> times I just don't say anything to avoid a conflict, even though
> inside I am very mad.....   any advice ???

It sounds like your wife has gone to the opposite extreme with you after
feeling so stifled and controlled in her first marriage. You two would
probably benefit from some counselling on aligning both your sets of
expectations about what, after all, should be a matter of common courtesy.

If it helps, it would not occur to me to take off without mentioning it to
my husband and giving him an estimate of when I'll be back - or to ensure a
spontaneous plan doesn't inconvenience him. I also phone him if I'm going to
be late so he doesn't worry.

Good luck.

Tai
nando - 27 Jan 2007 00:11 GMT
thanks Tai......

I have brought up couselling a few times, I will try again....

>> Hello,
>>
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>Tai
Nina - 27 Jan 2007 00:14 GMT
>thanks Tai......
>
>I have brought up couselling a few times, I will try again....

I think you have to.  It's easy to understand why she's this way, but
it's just as wrong as the opposite way.  When you live with someone
else, you have to do things of basic courtesy... letting them know
what's going on with you, sharing your plans, making joint decisions.
That's not about control; it's about having a combined life.  Somehow,
she has to see that sharing is not the same thing as giving up
control... but I think it may take a third party to do that.
nando - 27 Jan 2007 00:20 GMT
Thanks Nina..
its really hard to talk to her about this. She says, "thats in my head". ...

>>thanks Tai......
>>
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>she has to see that sharing is not the same thing as giving up
>control... but I think it may take a third party to do that.
Nina - 27 Jan 2007 00:37 GMT
>Thanks Nina..
>its really hard to talk to her about this. She says, "thats in my head". ...

That's why I think that a third party might be able to address it a
little better.

For whatever it's worth, "it's all in your head" means one of a few
things to me... sometimes something IS all in your head, but a lot of
the time, it's that the other person doesn't want to deal with his or
her behavior, so s/he turns it back on you.  I think that the right
answer (or one of them) is, maybe it's all in my head but it's
something I care a lot about; can we work on this together?

I also think that Tai had a good suggestion, if all else fails.  It's
manipulative, but it at least gives you the ability to say, see, look,
it's really inconsiderate when someone does this.  (Playing with fire,
though...)
nando - 27 Jan 2007 01:00 GMT
mmmm.... but see...the LEAST thing i want to do is to blow this thing even
more.... on the other hand, it IS bringging me to my last nerve...

>>Thanks Nina..
>>its really hard to talk to her about this. She says, "thats in my head". ...
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>it's really inconsiderate when someone does this.  (Playing with fire,
>though...)
Nina - 27 Jan 2007 01:01 GMT
>mmmm.... but see...the LEAST thing i want to do is to blow this thing even
>more.... on the other hand, it IS bringging me to my last nerve...

Then, bottom line, you need to either figure out a way to deal with it
or a way to let it go.
Tai - 27 Jan 2007 00:30 GMT
> thanks Tai......
>
> I have brought up couselling a few times, I will try again....

Yes, do. Go to counselling on your own if she won't go with you and try to
remain calm about the whole business.

I hestitate to suggest this but how do you think she'd react if you didn't
turn up when and where she expected you to a couple of times? I don't tihnk
you should do it in a confrontational or 'I'll show you!' way but just to
illustrate how unpleasant it is to be treated like a piece of furniture
rather than an important part of one's spouse's life. A counsellor would
probably have some good approaches for you to try to *gently* work out new
habits.

Tai

>>> Hello,
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>> Tai
S.D. - 27 Jan 2007 01:51 GMT
> So a lot of the times I just don't say anything to avoid a conflict,
> even though inside I am very mad.....   any advice ???

Yes...  Quit pussy footing around with her... It's clear she's
apparently lost site of what you've brought to her life that's good.

Your options are limited.  She's can either go it alone with your help
by understanding there's two of you and respecting each other is
mandatory.  Try counseling; but if I were to guess, she likely rejects
that avenue.   Your last option is to walk away for awhile.

QUIT SPOILING HER...  By the way, you have to be man enough to stand
your ground, otherwise, you're just fostering her bad behavior by
keeping quite; and in that case, her behavior is not likely to change.
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Leo - 27 Jan 2007 07:01 GMT
>> So a lot of the times I just don't say anything to avoid a conflict,
>> even though inside I am very mad.....   any advice ???
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> your ground, otherwise, you're just fostering her bad behavior by
> keeping quite; and in that case, her behavior is not likely to change.

From the description it seems that from her previous marriage she's
done with "man enough".   How about being human enough to realize that
the pendulum was swung so far in one direction that now that it's been
released you need to get out of the way and be patient while it settles
down.  If you try to stop it abruptly it's going to have a lot of force
behind it.

The more compassion you can have for her past experiences, the less
anger you'll experience when your expectations aren't met.  The more
compassion and the less anger you have for her, the more she'll be
likely to offer the same to you.  Emotions and mannerisms are very
contagious.

Don't argue with her.  Tell her calmly and sincerely that you want her
to have her freedom, and that you feel easier when you know what's up.
Then leave it, allow her to give it to you on her own without taking it.
S.D. - 27 Jan 2007 16:09 GMT
> Don't argue with her

I agree with the importance of compassion and your above statement.
However, compassionate men and women often struggle because they seldom
know when enough is enough.
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nando - 29 Jan 2007 18:43 GMT
thanks....  i DO spiol her alot... my friends have told me this before...

>> So a lot of the times I just don't say anything to avoid a conflict,
>> even though inside I am very mad.....   any advice ???
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>your ground, otherwise, you're just fostering her bad behavior by
>keeping quite; and in that case, her behavior is not likely to change.
Jerry Falwell - 27 Jan 2007 20:35 GMT
Dump the bitch !!!!!!

>Hello,
>
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>thanks
sudheer_bvrit@yahoo.co.in - 29 Jan 2007 20:17 GMT
HI THIS THE PROBLEME WICH R FACED BY ALL THE HUSBAND;S  I THINK U R
VERY UN HAPPY WITH UR  WIFE'S BEHAVIOUR  I THINK THAT UR WIFE
MISUNDERSTANDS UTHAT U HAVE AFIRE WITH ANOTHER PERSON
SO U SHOULD CAREFUL AND  MOVE FRIEDLY WITH HER
 
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