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don - 03 May 2007 17:31 GMT
My wife is a professional in the health sciences who elected to stay
at home with our children for seven years (three were born) . At first
I supported this, but for the last year or so I felt that she was
wasting her professional training by staying at home and that my one
salary was starting to be insufficient. I was evdiently quite grumpy
about it.  I eventually found her a job opening, which she applied for
and was hired.

Now that she is away every day with very long hours and that I have do
the pick-ups and make all meals, I find that my sexual/romantic
interest in her has soared (my interest is not always reciprocated,
especially on weekdays).

Are feelings like mine normal?
La Mer - 03 May 2007 18:13 GMT
> My wife is a professional in the health sciences who elected to stay
> at home with our children for seven years (three were born) . At first
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Are feelings like mine normal?

I'm trying to figure out if you're happy that she's at work or not.
Are you asking if being more sexually arroused now that she's less
available, is normal?  I'm curious is she wanted to go back to work
and if she's happy (or happier) now that she's working outside of the
home.  Your comment about having to do the pick-ups and make all
meals.....how are you finding that?  Are you glad that she went back
to work or not?
don - 03 May 2007 18:47 GMT
> > Mywifeis a professional in the health sciences who elected to stay
> > at home with our children for seven years (three were born) . At first
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> meals.....how are you finding that?  Are you glad that she went back
> to work or not?

I was happy for her at first, then I saw how tired she is at he end
of each day, and I have concerns.
Her feelings seem to be mixed. She likes the stimulation, but she
finds working in a hospital setting very stressful.
I find the child-duties somewhat tiring, but seem to have an easier
time of it than her.  My hope is that after a few months, it will
become easier for both of us (she will know her job better, maybe we
will get some extra help at home).  Then mayb
don - 03 May 2007 18:49 GMT
> > Mywifeis a professional in the health sciences who elected to stay
> > at home with our children for seven years (three were born) . At first
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> meals.....how are you finding that?  Are you glad that she went back
> to work or not?

Mixed feelings for her (pro: stimulation of job; con: stress, fatigue)
and I (pro: happy for her and extra income; con: feel sorry for her)
At the end of the day, I am left with more energy than her (even with
the child duties).
La Mer - 03 May 2007 19:00 GMT
> > > Mywifeis a professional in the health sciences who elected to stay
> > > at home with our children for seven years (three were born) . At first
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>
> - Show quoted text -

Okay, so she likes her job but is more stressed out and tried.  You're
happy that she likes the stimulation of the job and you like the
income but you feel sorry for her.  You feel sorry that she's stressed
and tired?  Uhhhh, what did you expect?  At the end of the day, you're
left with more energy than your wife "even with child duties," and I'm
wondering exactly what you're getting at here.  How many hours do you
each work outside of the home each day?  How do you split up housework
and childcare?  How old are your children and how much energy do they
require?

I still don't get a sense of what you're really looking for here.  Do
you feel unrewarded for taking on more child duties?  Are you
concerned that something is wrong with your wife?  Do you feel that
she is not adjusting in the way that you had imagined?  Do you wonder
if either situation (her working at home or not at home) will make you
happy?  Was she happier while she was at home?   It's hard to suggest
anything because your posts seem to have something missing.   I could
be way off, but it seems to me like you're beating around the bush and
not coming out with what is really troubling you.  I hear implications
and some covert messages....maybe a tiny bit of passive aggressive
comments.  I hope I'm wrong for everyone's sake.
AllYou! - 03 May 2007 19:14 GMT
> My wife is a professional in the health sciences who elected to stay
> at home with our children for seven years (three were born) . At
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> Are feelings like mine normal?

I can't really pinpoint it, but here are a couple of things I find
interesting:

"I was evidently quite grumpy"
Surely YOU know if you were grumpy about it.

"I eventually found her a job opening"
Is that because she refused to look for one herself, or because she
was incapable?

I just have a feeling that you have a hard time being honest with
yourself, perhaps to conceal some sort of controlling behavior that
you have.  Maybe that's why your wife's interest has waned, and why
that waning interest causes you to "want" her more.

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don - 03 May 2007 19:42 GMT
> > Mywifeis a professional in the health sciences who elected to stay
> > at home with our children for seven years (three were born) . At
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> that my remarks are that of an ignorant layperson, and no one should
> ever base their decisions upon them under any circumstances.

I found her the openingjob because I have very good job search and
Internet skills.  My wife said for about a year that she wanted to go
back to work,  but did not zealously look for a job (probably
intimidated after being away from the workplace for so long).

I did make a promise to her (and to myself) that I would make the
sacrifices necessary for her to be able to do this job, which is
actually a one-year position.
michaela - 06 May 2007 22:21 GMT
>>> Mywifeis a professional in the health sciences who elected to stay
>>> at home with our children for seven years (three were born) . At
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
> back to work,  but did not zealously look for a job (probably
> intimidated after being away from the workplace for so long).

And you found it necessary to mention that /you/ were the one to find
her the job because...?

- Michaela

> I did make a promise to her (and to myself) that I would make the
> sacrifices necessary for her to be able to do this job, which is
> actually a one-year position.

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don - 09 May 2007 20:59 GMT
> >>> Mywifeis a professional in the health sciences who elected to stay
> >>> at home with our children for seven years (three were born) . At
[quoted text clipped - 49 lines]
>
> --

I found her a job because I felt that she was no longer enjoying being
at home, that she has a high level of skills (health care) to offer,
and because it would help our bottom line at home.
michaela - 09 May 2007 21:56 GMT
>>>>> Mywifeis a professional in the health sciences who elected to stay
>>>>> at home with our children for seven years (three were born) . At
>>>>> first
>>>>> I supported this, but for the last year or so I felt that she was
>>>>> wasting her professional training by staying at home and that my
>>>>> one salary was starting to be insufficient. I was evdiently
quite
>>>>> grumpy about it.  I eventually found her ajobopening, which she
>>>>> applied for
[quoted text clipped - 39 lines]
> at home, that she has a high level of skills (health care) to offer,
> and because it would help our bottom line at home.

Reread my question if you care to.

- Michaela
S.D. - 09 May 2007 22:58 GMT
>I felt that she was wasting her professional training by staying at home
>and that my one salary was starting to be insufficient.

You felt....  you're talking about her self-esteem, time and skills -
what did she feel?

> I found her the openingjob because I have very good job search and
> Internet skills.

Your action here was wrong.  She's an adult, you enabled her.  The
better question might be - for her benefit or yours?

>My wife said for about a year that she wanted to go
> back to work,  but did not zealously look for a job (probably
> intimidated after being away from the workplace for so long).

>Now that she is away every day with very long hours and that I have do
>the pick-ups and make all meals, I find that my sexual/romantic
>interest in her has soared (my interest is not always reciprocated,
>especially on weekdays).

I suspect there's more to her not being motivated then you're aware of.
Also, you might ask yourself two deeper questions ...
"Why? do you jump in where you don't belong"
"Why? do you sound as though you're looking to take responsibility when
it's not yours to take".  

>Are feelings like mine normal?

Sadly, probably more common then you know; normal leads to other
questions.
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zorra - 10 May 2007 06:34 GMT
>>I felt that she was wasting her professional training by staying at
>>home
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Your action here was wrong.  She's an adult, you enabled her.  The
> better question might be - for her benefit or yours?

The action was not necessarily wrong, depending on his answer to your
first question.  People get all kinds of help in job searches, whether
it's from the campus career office, employment agencies, networking,
nepotism and so forth.  If she wanted to work, then I see nothing
wrong with him helping.

Zorra
S.D. - 11 May 2007 19:08 GMT
> Zorra

Re-read the OP
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zorra - 11 May 2007 20:04 GMT
>> Zorra
>
> Re-read the OP

First, please don't snip so much that I have to go back and re-read my
post to know what the heck you are talking about.  Second, in the OP,
he seemed to imply that he found her the job because he wanted her to
work, and I'd agree that is something that needs negotiation rather
than a dictatorial, "I found you a job, now you will take it."  But I
don't see it wrong to "enable" someone by conducting an internet job
search for them.

Zorra
Bill in Co. - 11 May 2007 20:11 GMT
>>> Zorra
>>
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>
> Zorra

Better yet, don't snip at all, and preserve the context.
zorra - 11 May 2007 20:16 GMT
>>>> Zorra
>>>
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>
> Better yet, don't snip at all, and preserve the context.

:-P  Not snipping works okay until you have two non-snippers posting
back and forth to each other.  Ack!!!!

Zorra
Bill in Co. - 11 May 2007 20:24 GMT
>>>>> Zorra
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> Zorra

Well, Michaela and I had that going on for quite a spell, and it even
reached 100KB!      (that was before she reached .... saturation    :-)
Jerim79 - 11 May 2007 16:38 GMT
> My wife is a professional in the health sciences who elected to stay
> at home with our children for seven years (three were born) . At first
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Are feelings like mine normal?

Yes, you are more attracted to her in that way because you have been
relieved of some stress as far as the money goes. Similar thing
happened with my wife and I. When we got married, my wife was working.
After a few months, she lost her job. I had to support us both on my
inadequate salary for two years. I lost romantic feelings, because I
felt that she wasn't sharing the burden and plus all the stress was on
my to keep the money coming in. I coaxed her back into school, she got
a nursing license, and now that she is working the money issues have
disappeared. I do find her more attractive. I think mentally our brain
uses attractiveness as a way to gauge a "partner." If a partner isn't
living up to their responsibility, it is normal to not find them as
attractive. Of course, your wife was taking care of the kids, however
seven years is a long time. I think a few months after child birth is
normal to have off, but then you got to get back in the workforce. It
is all about feeling like a "team." You subconsciously felt that your
wife had abandoned your team and left you high and dry. Now that she
is back on board, you find her more attractive.
Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe - 13 May 2007 04:12 GMT
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> I think a few months after child birth is
> normal to have off, but then you got to get back in the workforce. It
> is all about feeling like a "team." You subconsciously felt that your
> wife had abandoned your team and left you high and dry. Now that she
> is back on board, you find her more attractive.

Really?  You find that one parent staying home to care for the
children that *both* parents "worked" together to create constitutes
"abandon[ing] your team?"

I really thought it was all a matter of each couple working together
to determine priorities, then working together to meet those
priorities.  You seem to be saying that the children should NOT be as
high a priority as should be a career outside the home.

Kitten
Tai - 13 May 2007 07:37 GMT
> <snipped>
>> I think a few months after child birth is
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> priorities.  You seem to be saying that the children should NOT be as
> high a priority as should be a career outside the home.

He does doesn't he? I wonder if Jerim actually has any children.

Jerim, many people have very strong feelings about who they want to care for
their infants and young children and in some families no one other than the
parents or grandparents look after pre-school children. Also, working
together as team work doesn't mean both spouses have to fulfil identical
roles within their family.

Tai
Jerim79 - 16 May 2007 16:34 GMT
On May 12, 10:12 pm, Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe
<st_brigids_gate_f...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> <snipped>
>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Kitten

If a couple agrees that one parent should stay home longer, I have not
problem with that. But that is not what happened in this case,
obviously. Since the OP had an issue with his wife staying at home and
not working, obviously he had never okayed it. My point was that they
needed to work together as a group. The OP seems to have felt that his
wife went off and made an arbitrary decision to stop working without
consulting him. If two people are living a nice lifestyle that
requires both to be working and one of them quits working regardless
of the reason, the other one is going to feel abandoned. One person
now has to maintain the lifestyle that requires two people. It
wouldn't be fair for the male spouse to do it either, now would it?
You have to think of the "family" and not just the child. What is best
for "the family" is the key concern.
Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe - 16 May 2007 17:29 GMT
> On May 12, 10:12 pm, Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe
> <st_brigids_gate_f...@yahoo.com> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
> You have to think of the "family" and not just the child. What is best
> for "the family" is the key concern.

First off, what you've written here is completely different from what
you wrote initially.  I've intentionally left your original comments
up above so that you can look back and see the differences in the two
posts.

Secondly, the OP stated that he initially *supported* his wife staying
home with the kids, and then *he* decided she needed to go back to
work, not that they both decided together that they needed to re-
evaluate:

"My wife is a professional in the health sciences who elected to stay
at home with our children for seven years (three were born) . At
first
I supported this, but for the last year or so I felt that she was
wasting her professional training by staying at home and that my one
salary was starting to be insufficient. I was evdiently quite grumpy
about it.  I eventually found her a job opening, which she applied
for
and was hired."

Far different than what it seems you recall.

Kitten
don - 29 May 2007 20:20 GMT
On May 16, 12:29 pm, Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe
<st_brigids_gate_f...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On May 12, 10:12 pm, Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe
> > <st_brigids_gate_f...@yahoo.com> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 54 lines]
>
> Kitten

Upon further reflection, I think I can explain my increased sexual
interest
(please don't castigate me for being shallow):

1) scarcity: I see my wife less, so I value my time with her more
2) appearance: she pays more attention (and has more resources to
devote) to her appearance now that she is working outside the home.
3) intelligence: the job she does requires a high intelligence, so I
now always think what a smart wife I have, and that stimulates my
interest.  When she was at home I did not htink about it so much.
 
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