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mad - 20 Jun 2007 03:51 GMT
I guess I am after some advice.
I am very keen to be with my husband as much as possible.
Unfortunately I am being pitied. That is how I feel. He will be with
me and if we have intercourse it aint very good. I feel like he is
scared of me. Am I being too aggressive and forward?. I try to back
off but I think he likes me wanting him which in turns gets  me going.
He will get me to the point of climax, wants to hurry up, he will
finish, then sleep. I feel so sad. I feel so ignored and rejected as
if I am not important.
I do what I can to make my self visually pleasurable to him and he
gets aroused but then he will say "I like your personality" When we
are making love I am trying to be sexy just with him. I want him to
say "You are sexy" like he used to (when I wasn't even trying!) Am I
trying too hard?
deja.blues - 20 Jun 2007 03:58 GMT
>I guess I am after some advice.
> I am very keen to be with my husband as much as possible.
> Unfortunately I am being pitied. That is how I feel. He will be with
> me and if we have intercourse it aint very good.

Try soc.sexuality.general.
Dog with two dicks - 20 Jun 2007 04:03 GMT
> >I guess I am after some advice.
> > I am very keen to be with my husband as much as possible.
> > Unfortunately I am being pitied. That is how I feel. He will be with
> > me and if we have intercourse it aint very good.
>
> Try soc.sexuality.general.

No don't follow that f.cker's advice. Please cross-post here as I am
interested to hear of your exploits to pleasure your husband.

DWTD
LarryG - 20 Jun 2007 07:22 GMT
> I guess I am after some advice.
> I am very keen to be with my husband as much as possible.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> say "You are sexy" like he used to (when I wasn't even trying!) Am I
> trying too hard?

No one on any newsgroup is going to be able to accurately read
your husband's mind.  These are the sort of questions best asked
directly of him rather than a net-full of strangers who know neither
of you.

Yet, from your stated dialog, it seems that you and your husband are
having some difficulty in keeping the same level of sexual interest as
you had in the past.  There are a number of possible causes for this,
and are usually best dealt with in conjunction with a professional
marriage / sex counselor.

One note of caution is due - guilt over adultery or extra-marital
romances can lead to similar estrangement between husband and
wife.  Even fantasies of such can be detrimental to a sound marriage.
Again, counseling is in order.

Best of luck,
Larry G.
LAMPS
www.loveandmarriageseminars.com
Vickie - 20 Jun 2007 16:03 GMT
> I guess I am after some advice.
> I am very keen to be with my husband as much as possible.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> say "You are sexy" like he used to (when I wasn't even trying!) Am I
> trying too hard?

I can't figure a few things out here.  How are you being pitied?  Why
would you think he is scared of you?  When he gets you to the point of
climax, does he take you over it?
Then there is the issues of how you feel about yourself.  About
feeling sexy still.

If you do not re-post to explain, I totally understand.  In any case,
it sounds like you need to have a sit down with your husband to get
this all off your chest and find out where he is coming from.

Vickie
S.D. - 20 Jun 2007 16:48 GMT
>> [14 quoted lines suppressed]
>
> I can't figure a few things out here.  How are you being pitied?  Why
> would you think he is scared of you?

Same questions I asked myself when reading.  I suspect she's got a bit
of aggressiveness in her which puts him off due a traditional nature or
excuse... NOT me though:)  I like sexually aggressive woman; wish it was
more common.

>In any case, it sounds like you need to have a sit down with your husband to get
> this all off your chest and find out where he is coming from.

Based on what she's written so far - don't think a sit down with him
will solve much for her issues; they are deep and time worn.  Besides,
something's happening with him, as well.
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Vickie - 20 Jun 2007 17:05 GMT
> >> [14 quoted lines suppressed]
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> excuse... NOT me though:)  I like sexually aggressive woman; wish it was
> more common.

I think you are not alone in that!!

> >In any case, it sounds like you need to have a sit down with your husband to get
> > this all off your chest and find out where he is coming from.
>
> Based on what she's written so far - don't think a sit down with him
> will solve much for her issues; they are deep and time worn.  Besides,
> something's happening with him, as well.

Hmmm. What to do then?  Maybe she can change it up a bit?  If she is
more passive, he will be more pleased?  But he needs to come around
also, because, well, that is what you would want to do to make your
partner satisfied also.

I also don't have any good advice on the rolling over and sleeping
afterwards.  I am not a cuddler after sex so if he rolled over at went
to sleep, I wouldn't have a problem with it, as long as he has a smile
on his face.  Usually we get up, and say things like, *That was really
good.*, and then laugh at how great we think we are in our sexual
abilities.

I really would like to help her out.  But I don't have a clear
picture, I guess.

Vickie
S.D. - 20 Jun 2007 17:14 GMT
> I really would like to help her out.  But I don't have a clear
> picture, I guess.

.. .Vic is offering up classes:) - how to, when to, how not to and how
and when to brag about ones prowess- LOL. ok, I'll sign up!
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Vickie - 20 Jun 2007 17:44 GMT
> > I really would like to help her out.  But I don't have a clear
> > picture, I guess.
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> --
> SD:)

LOL!

Take your seats.

1- Anything goes as long as it is fun and feels really, really good,
for one and all.

Class dismissed.

(I will be available anytime for follow-up questions, unless there is
a DO NOT DISTURB posted on my office door, or as I like to say - "If
the place is a-rockin', don't come a-knockin'!")

Vickie
S.D. - 21 Jun 2007 01:04 GMT
> "If the place is a-rockin', don't come a-knockin'!")

You're either living in a trailer or a car ... LOL  
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Vickie - 21 Jun 2007 01:29 GMT
> > "If the place is a-rockin', don't come a-knockin'!")
>
> You're either living in a trailer or a car ... LOL  
> --
> SD:)

It's a van, thank you very much.

V
Atalanta arctos - 21 Jun 2007 02:44 GMT
> > "If the place is a-rockin', don't come a-knockin'!")
>
> You're either living in a trailer or a car ... LOL
> --
> SD:)

Your post came up without the attending posts before it and my eyes
nearly popped out!  I read the whole thread,  and voila - a very
different meaning.

I do have to say that some men don't like initiatory/aggressive women
(initiatory being a mild form of the same thing as .... aggressive).
If this is the case and it doesn't matter to the girl that she can't
initiate - it's perfectly fine and normal (although, if the man is
aloof and simply avoidant - that's not good).

Sex problems are the most difficult to discuss in my world (hence I
appreciate Vickie's openess all the more - especially her ability to
discuss when it's unlikely that the OP will say much more).

A.
Vickie - 21 Jun 2007 03:14 GMT
> > > "If the place is a-rockin', don't come a-knockin'!")
>
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>
> A.

I hope she does post again.  Her name in blue over there on the tree
is mad, but she seems more sad to me.

I am still puzzled.  She wants him and is sexying up for him, makes
advances, he is not all that interested, but then she thinks he feels
sorry for her, so he makes love to her, quickly I think, then turns
over to sleep??
And in the midst of all this, he wants her wanting him and that is a
turn on for her also?
And she is trying her hardest to be sexy for him, because she is
doubting herself and his feelings for her?

That is my guess.  And I am probably way off base.

I wonder if she can liquor him up a bit, to find out what's up with
him?  No, that probably isn't a good idea.  Hmmm, still trying to come
up with a plan......

Vickie
thepixelfreak - 20 Jun 2007 17:38 GMT
>> Same questions I asked myself when reading.  I suspect she's got a bit
>> of aggressiveness in her which puts him off due a traditional nature or
>> excuse... NOT me though:)  I like sexually aggressive woman; wish it was
>> more common.
>
> I think you are not alone in that!!

Two thumbs up!!

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seo_ganesh@yahoo.com - 21 Jun 2007 15:10 GMT
> I also don't have any good advice on the rolling over and sleeping
> afterwards.  I am not a cuddler after sex so if he rolled over at went
> to sleep, I wouldn't have a problem with it, as long as he has a smile
> on his face.  Usually we get up, and say things like, *That was really
> good.*, and then laugh at how great we think we are in our sexual
> abilities.

Yes, this one is a very good advice. You should learn to say it was
nice.. I am sure that will help.. Keep thinking positive. The trick on
the trade in marriage is keeping positive all the time. It helps a
million.

LD
http://forums.familylobby.com
(Your True Family Discussions)
Atalanta arctos - 21 Jun 2007 02:40 GMT
> >> [14 quoted lines suppressed]
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> excuse... NOT me though:)  I like sexually aggressive woman; wish it was
> more common.

You're probably right about the "something puts him off" idea - but it
is not so likely to be "aggressiveness" (that's a certain group of men
- and maybe a certain generation - I'd be happy to discuss this more,
I really don't know).  But it's good for her to question what exactly
she means and what she thinks is off-putting.

> >In any case, it sounds like you need to have a sit down with your husband to get
> > this all off your chest and find out where he is coming from.
>
> Based on what she's written so far - don't think a sit down with him
> will solve much for her issues; they are deep and time worn.  Besides,
> something's happening with him, as well.

Very true - although some type of communication is probably in order
(menfolk in my world don't cotton well to "sit-downs" so some other
method of communication is sometimes necessary).

I think perhaps she's the type of person who is prone to self-doubt -
and for many people, self-doubt *really* creeps in, when sex is
involved.

A>
> --
> SD:)
Atalanta arctos - 21 Jun 2007 02:37 GMT
> > I guess I am after some advice.
> > I am very keen to be with my husband as much as possible.
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>
> Vickie

Cool post, Vickie.
Vickie - 21 Jun 2007 03:16 GMT
> > > I guess I am after some advice.
> > > I am very keen to be with my husband as much as possible.
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>
> - Show quoted text -

Thank ya.
V
JoeCCruz@gmail.com - 21 Jun 2007 00:45 GMT
> I guess I am after some advice.
> I am very keen to be with my husband as much as possible.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> say "You are sexy" like he used to (when I wasn't even trying!) Am I
> trying too hard?

It appears on the surface that it is no longer a challenge for him if
you are too aggressive.
To be fair though, he appears to be satisfied that he has the prize
and thus feels he does not have to be impressive.  Drink his milk and
close the frig.  Just my initial thoughts.  Good luck.
Vickie - 21 Jun 2007 01:27 GMT
> > I guess I am after some advice.
> > I am very keen to be with my husband as much as possible.
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> and thus feels he does not have to be impressive.  Drink his milk and
> close the frig.  Just my initial thoughts.  Good luck.

I understood everything but, what is drink his milk and close the
frig??

Vickie
JoeCCruz@gmail.com - 29 Jun 2007 22:18 GMT
> > > I guess I am after some advice.
> > > I am very keen to be with my husband as much as possible.
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -

Drink the milk and close the frig is a miss type.  But if I took it on
face value, it would mean, "accept what you got and move on with it".
Vickie - 29 Jun 2007 22:38 GMT
On Jun 29, 2:18 pm, JoeCC...@gmail.com wrote:

> > > > I guess I am after some advice.
> > > > I am very keen to be with my husband as much as possible.
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -

Okay.

For the most part she is backing off and I think moving in a good
direction.

Vickie
Stephanie - 21 Jun 2007 12:32 GMT
>I guess I am after some advice.
> I am very keen to be with my husband as much as possible.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> say "You are sexy" like he used to (when I wasn't even trying!) Am I
> trying too hard?

This is a tough one because there could be so many things going on. Normally
my advice is to speak honestly, openly and kindly about issues. But "dear
the sex isnt working for me" can go all sorts of places you don't want to
go, from performance anxiety to lord only knows what else.

Could you speak to him about some details along the journey rather go
directly to generalities about your sex life? Like honey I used to love it
when you told me I was sexy and approached me all ravenously. Or honey I
would like to spend a more leasurely time with lovemaking rather than just
having a rush to the orgasm (if I read that part right). What do you think,
dear?

I suppose you could approach it as I don't feel you find me as sexy as you
used to. Is there something less appealing going on? But then *you* are
pretty *out there.* What if he tells you something completely not on your
radar. You had better have your emotional armour ready!

I have actually been where you are, years ago. What I did was to distract
myself with other interests and let that driving issue become less important
in my mind. IIRC it allowed me to gain some perspective about life being
busy and stressful. We sort of wove back into a fun sex life later on.

I don't know if any of this helps. I wish you the best!
Dr Nancy's Sweetie - 21 Jun 2007 12:42 GMT
"mad <inakid.knittedsforkids@gmail.com>" wrote looking for some advice
about, it appears, fine-tuning her approach so as to improve
interactions between herself and her husband.  She writes:

> I feel like he is scared of me.  Am I being too aggressive and
> forward?  I try to back off but I think he likes me wanting him which
> in turns gets me going.

and

> I do what I can to make my self visually pleasurable to him and he
> gets aroused but then he will say "I like your personality"[.]

I obviously haven't been present at any such events, nor can I read
minds, but the following thuoght sparked into my head at reading the
reply written by "S.D. <sd@2muchspam.com>":

> I suspect she's got a bit of aggressiveness in her which puts him off
> due a traditional nature or excuse... NOT me though:) I like sexually
> aggressive woman; wish it was more common.

"Aggressive" behaviour usually suggests at least "pushy", and can go as
far as "threatening".  I don't think anybody really likes "pushy".

I was going to ask the poster to think about the difference between
"aggressive" and "assertive".  That got me as far as my thesaurus, which
also offered up "bold" and "brazen".  Then I Googled "assertive woman
aggressive" to see if a more thoughtful consideration of the balance has
been discussed, and turned up an actual book:

   _How to Be an Assertive (Not Aggressive) Woman in Life, in Love,
    and on the Job_

So I'm not the only one who sees a difference between the words.  I
haven't read the book, so can't recommend it, but it might bear looking
over.

*

It's not clear what the OP does to be "visually pleasurable", but
guessing about exactly what someone likes can be tricky.  I laughed when
I saw "Total Recall", and Arnold Schwarzenegger's character describes
his ideal woman as "athletic, demure, sleazy" -- but taken seriously, I
think everybody (male and female) wants their partners to be *both*
respectable *and* shameless, depending on context.

As regards not getting what you want, maybe you should try saying so
explicitly: "I want this".  See what answer you get.

Darren Provine ! kilroy@elvis.rowan.edu ! http://www.rowan.edu/~kilroy
"Unhappiness is not knowing what we want out of life and killing
ourselves to get it." -- Don Herold
 
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