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Jane - 25 Jul 2007 23:06 GMT
I have had this glooming gray cloud over me the past few months and I
cannot figure it out.  It is as if something is missing in my life.
The big questions is what?  I live the good life.  I have 4 really
good kids, a loving husband, a good marriage, a great career.  I live
is a nice house in a nice neighborhood.  I have a good mix of play and
work.  My extended family life is great, my work and social life is
great too.  So, why am I so glume?  I am a very upbeat person, usually
happy.  Is there something I am just not doing right?
Vickie - 25 Jul 2007 23:34 GMT
> I have had this glooming gray cloud over me the past few months and I
> cannot figure it out.  It is as if something is missing in my life.
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> great too.  So, why am I so glume?  I am a very upbeat person, usually
> happy.  Is there something I am just not doing right?

Don't know your age.  Could be hormones.  Could be depression.
Everything seems like it is going good.  When you think back at what
goals you might have set for yourself, do you feel like you are
working towards or have achieved them?  Maybe you need to re-look at
them.

Or you didn't go to prom.

Vickie
Jane - 25 Jul 2007 23:43 GMT
> Don't know your age.

I am only 31.
Nina - 25 Jul 2007 23:50 GMT
>> Don't know your age.
>
>I am only 31.

Seriously, Vickie's right that some sort of medical evaluation for
depression would be a good idea.  It's not a bad place to start... not
a bad thing to at least try to rule out.  What you describe... nothing
really wrong but gloom, etc., sound like textbook depression, at least
in some ways.
Tai - 26 Jul 2007 03:32 GMT
>> Don't know your age.
>
> I am only 31.

Well, you've packed quite a lot of childbearing and rearing into you life up
until now. How old's your youngest child? I can remember a point when I was
finally able to stop and catch my breath and realise there were other things
I wanted to do now that I had (a little more) time.

I'll add my voice to those posters who've suggested you take yourself off to
your doctor to be assessed. Get a full physical exam and have your iron,
thyroid etc. checked, and have yourself assessed for depression, as well.
Rog' - 26 Jul 2007 01:22 GMT
>I have had this glooming gray cloud over me the past few months
> and I cannot figure it out.  It is as if something is missing in my life.
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> upbeat person, usually happy.  Is there something I am just not
> doing right?

Even at 31, you may be suffering from a mild form of depression.
Please see a doc.  Depression is not something that you can make
go away on your own.  Even if meds are not for you, you should
at least let a doc do a screening and give you the options.  BTDT.
=R=
Elisa - 26 Jul 2007 02:25 GMT
>I have had this glooming gray cloud over me the past few months and I
> cannot figure it out.  It is as if something is missing in my life.
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> great too.  So, why am I so glume?  I am a very upbeat person, usually
> happy.  Is there something I am just not doing right?

I think it will pass.  Hang in there and just recognize that you are going
to feel this way for a while and it is totally normal and it will pass in
time.  My 40's are a lot more"content" than my 30's.  Exercise and nature
tend to make me feel better, but maybe it's something else for you.  If it
becomes severe or is affecting your life adversely, meds may be the answer
as others have offered.

Elisa
Vickie - 26 Jul 2007 02:30 GMT
> >I have had this glooming gray cloud over me the past few months and I
> > cannot figure it out.  It is as if something is missing in my life.
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>
> Elisa

Not just meds, maybe therapy, if your symptoms do not subside.
V
John Heath - 26 Jul 2007 04:35 GMT
> I have had this glooming gray cloud over me the past few months and I
> cannot figure it out.  It is as if something is missing in my life.
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> great too.  So, why am I so glume?  I am a very upbeat person, usually
> happy.  Is there something I am just not doing right?

I'd check out hormones, thyroid etc like the others have suggested.
Maybe your life has just become a little humdrum and routine, are
there things you've stopped doing that used to light your fire?

If that's all it is, I think a great idea is to check out a thrid
world country. My wife and I are going through some stressful moments
at the moment. We had our honeymoon in India and it helps me to think
that life could be a lot worse. As you say, you live the good life, so
maybe the problem is you're becoming a bit blase about the positive
things in your life. Maybe you just don't have the time to appreciate
them - you've got young kids and a career, after all.
LarryG - 26 Jul 2007 07:06 GMT
> I have had this glooming gray cloud over me the past few months and I
> cannot figure it out.  It is as if something is missing in my life.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> great too.  So, why am I so glume?  I am a very upbeat person, usually
> happy.  Is there something I am just not doing right?

Wow!  What an interesting problem to have.

There are so many possible answers.  Having read the other seven (so
far) responses, I would suggest that "depression" is more of an
effect, than a cause in your situation.  Identifying and correcting
the root cause(s) of your melancholy is always more interesting than
simply naming the condition, or treating the symptoms.

Here are a few possibilities, which *may* fit your situation:

1. You are in denial about some aspect of your life that isn't
wonderful, or that may take away the blessings you've identified.

2. You found success too early, with too little effort, and are now
feeling bored and unchallenged.

3. You have reached the point at which your childhood role-modeling
ends, and you are no longer sure how to act, what to do and how to
behave.

4. You have achieved what others told you that you should want.
Having done so, you are reevaluating your life and finding it less
satisfying than you had imagined it would be.

5. You have lived a life of reason and caution.  It has shielded you
from pain and upset, and allowed you to fulfill someone's (possibly
not your own) goals.  Deep inside, you hunger for passion, drama, and
risk.

These may seem frivolous, but remember that at the peak of his life,
Alexander the Great wept, because there were no more worlds left to
conquer.  Too much success, too early, too easily gained can portend
disaster.

If you are looking for advice, I would suggest that you seek out a
psycho-therapist (not a psychiatrist) or possibly a minister, to help
you figure out exactly what the problem is, before you do something
that silly or stupid, that ends up hurting everyone.

Good luck,
Larry G.
Jane - 27 Jul 2007 16:13 GMT
WOW!  Thank you all for your input and advice.

I am not a person who wants to start popping pills.  Maybe I am naive,
or I don't know what I am.... but the thought of starting to take
medication for depression at my age, that just seems not good.
Depression doesn't run in my family, but I guess that isn't always the
reason for depression.  I just really don't want to start something
like that and then be stuck on it.  I guess I just really want to find
a way to fix it myself.  Any thoughts?

I really enjoyed Larry G's post, and I have been thinking a lot about
some of his suggestions.

My oldest child is 10, my youngest is 3.  A part of me has wondered if
maybe some of my glume is just moving onto this next step of my
life.... a life with kids being able to take better care of themselves
and not needing mom so much.  It is true, a lot of my efforts have
been put into my kids.  I still spend most of my time doing things
with and for them, but not as much in the past.  Is that just part of
life.... letting the kids grow up and settling into more of a quiet
life.

I do hunger for drama and risk.  I think I have done that a lot in my
life.  Being a mom, student, working on my career.... I have been sooo
busy, mostly overloaded most of my life.  Things are quieting down
now.  My life has become a ritual, a very daily routine, and I miss
all the excitement.  Maybe I am just adjusting to a more calm, less
active, less stressful time.  Lately, I have been thinking that I
might go stir crazy when I retire.  I know that is a long way off, so
many I will have time to adjust when that comes around.  Any thoughts
on that?

I read a post not long ago about Sexual Peak.  I wonder if that is a
large part of my reasoning for being down.  My husband it great, but
man, I could really use a little more excitement in the bedroom.  Or
maybe I am just making excuses and trying to find some excitement
somewhere.  I guess I just can't figure out why I am not content.  I
think most women in my situation would be, but I just want more.  What
is my problem?
urf - 27 Jul 2007 16:34 GMT
The female equivalent to the male "mid life event"?

Buy a red sports car. :)

Life is a passage. We often feel sad leaving a part of the
of a journey behind us. Often the opposite is true. We look
forward to the next part.

Gray hair, changes in your own body and the changes of
your life are the reality. It is hard to believe that anyone would
"look forward" to those realities. Yet I can assure you that what
is to come can be the best part of the entire journey.

> WOW!  Thank you all for your input and advice.
>
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> think most women in my situation would be, but I just want more.  What
> is my problem?
Rog' - 27 Jul 2007 17:09 GMT
> WOW!  Thank you all for your input and advice.
> I am not a person who wants to start popping pills.  Maybe
> I am naive, or I don't know what I am.... but the thought of
> starting to take medication for depression at my age, that
> just seems not good.

Seeing a doc to be screened for possible causes does not
mean popping pills, its merely a smart thing to do to rule out
a need for medical treatment and consider your options.  It
may be that you can wait-it-out and it will pass, but IMHO,
your reluctance to seek treatment may be symtomatic and
prolong your malaise.

I will tell you that I did anti-depressants 2x in my life, once
in my early 40's when the proverbial mid-life crisis hit me
hard, and the next seven years later, during a divorce. Both
were situational, that is acute episodes, and I was extremely
thankful that this medication helped me to function normally.

 =R=
Vickie - 27 Jul 2007 17:39 GMT
> > WOW!  Thank you all for your input and advice.
> > I am not a person who wants to start popping pills.  Maybe
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> your reluctance to seek treatment may be symtomatic and
> prolong your malaise.

Yes.

> I will tell you that I did anti-depressants 2x in my life, once
> in my early 40's when the proverbial mid-life crisis hit me
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>
>   =R=

Good post.
Vickie
shinypenny - 27 Jul 2007 17:22 GMT
> WOW!  Thank you all for your input and advice.
>
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> think most women in my situation would be, but I just want more.  What
> is my problem?

You spent the first part of your life doing what you were told to do,
going to school, etc. Then you spent the next part of your life doing
what you had to do - diapering babies, wiping noses, building a career
and a home. That chapter is starting to close, as your kids become
more independent. What's next? The next phase is the most exciting
phase! It's when you get to do what you WANT to do!!!!

The trouble is, you're not sure what you want to do! That's why the
thought of retiring seems to be one long endless yawn. You hunger for
drama and risk... that is your heart searching to find what it wants.

Try making a list of things you want to do before you die. For
example, high on my list is traveling and seeing the world. I put that
off for so long, while I did my "had-to-do's." I'm in my 40s now and
I'm not putting it off any longer. The kids are also the perfect age
to travel with us - which makes it even more fun, to see the world
through their eyes. I also wanted to live in a city - so I bought a
house that is on the city line - close enough that I can get my fix of
city life, but still in an area that has good schools and is family-
friendly.  I'd also like to maybe run a marathon someday, it's not too
late. I really enjoy running - it's on my "want" list. There's a lot
of things on that list, that's just a few of them.

Everyone's list is different. Do you want to own and run your own
company? Become an artist or a musician? See the seven wonders of the
world? Go sky-diving? Learn a new sport? What is on your wanna-do
list?

A lot of people don't get to this point until their 40s or beyond...
for some of us, it just comes sooner. I was about your age when it hit
me, so I can totally relate to what you are going through!!  I'm
turning 42 soon and my kids are now 13 and 14. I look back on the last
5-7 years or so and I'm amazed at how I've shaped my life to do more
and more of what I want to do. You can successfully add in a bit of
things that you want to do, while still balancing it with what you
have to do. Retirement will be a lot of fun - it'll be similar to how
we're living now, only I won't have to work. I may do volunteer work
just for fun though. Probably similar to the work I do now, because I
am doing what I love and not just working because I have to. But even
if I got hit by a bus tomorrow, I can say that I really enjoyed this
time in my life and wasn't just waiting around for the future.

So go ahead - create and live the life that you want! The first step
is to dream. Dream big, then put a plan in place to make it happen.

jen
Bill in Co. - 27 Jul 2007 22:16 GMT
>> WOW!  Thank you all for your input and advice.
>>
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> world? Go sky-diving? Learn a new sport? What is on your wanna-do
> list?

??    No, no, no, no, and no.
Emma Anne - 27 Jul 2007 17:55 GMT
> I am not a person who wants to start popping pills.

Unlike the rest of us, who are *thrilled* at the idea of psychotropic
meds.
Jane - 27 Jul 2007 18:50 GMT
laugh... Emma, that was funny!

I really appreciate all these thoughts.  Keep them coming!

I like the idea of making a list.  There are a lot of things I want to
do.  I better get it all in while I am still young.

I also like the idea of buying a nice red sports car!!!

I am headed to Vegas this weekend with my sister.  I have always
wanted to see Blue Man Group, so here we go!  Any other suggestions?
shinypenny - 27 Jul 2007 19:01 GMT
> laugh... Emma, that was funny!
>
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> I am headed to Vegas this weekend with my sister.  I have always
> wanted to see Blue Man Group, so here we go!  Any other suggestions?

Oh, you'll love BMG. They're awesome!

Next week we're seeing two concerts, Squeeze & Cheap Trick, and Bryan
Adams & George Thorogood. All reminders of my teen years!

jen
Vickie - 27 Jul 2007 19:39 GMT
> > laugh... Emma, that was funny!
>
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>
> jen

So lucky!  I adore Squeeze.  Goodbye girl- my favorite.  Saw them in a
show a long time ago.  Incredible!  If you haven't seen them perform
you will be thrilled.  Cheap Trick is fab too.  Haven't seen them
perform though.

Vickie (truly envious!)
Tracey - 27 Jul 2007 20:06 GMT
>>laugh... Emma, that was funny!
>>
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>
> jen

We recently went to see Huey Lewis and the News (who I saw when they
were a bar band touring the midwest, before getting big) and had
planned on seeing Asia in August but they cancelled. :(

Tracey
shinypenny - 27 Jul 2007 20:13 GMT
> >>laugh... Emma, that was funny!
>
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> were a bar band touring the midwest, before getting big) and had
> planned on seeing Asia in August but they cancelled. :(

Oh, I'd love to see Huey. Not so sure about Asia though. I love this
time of year, there's always at least one concert around for us 40-
somethings to enjoy. Police is also touring here... but we saw Sting
in concert two years back, it was just okay, so we're skipping this
one. Plus the tickets are outrageously expensive.

jen
Rog' - 27 Jul 2007 20:36 GMT
> I love this time of year, there's always at least one concert around
> for us 40-somethings to enjoy. Police is also touring here... but we
> saw Sting in concert two years back, it was just okay, so we're
> skipping this one. Plus the tickets are outrageously expensive.

I call it Geezer-Rock.  In the last few years, we saw Fleetwood
Mac, Simon+Garfunkel, Elton John, Celine Dion and Cher.  My
musical taste seems to have stopped dead in the 80's.
shinypenny - 27 Jul 2007 21:31 GMT
> > I love this time of year, there's always at least one concert around
> > for us 40-somethings to enjoy. Police is also touring here... but we
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Mac, Simon+Garfunkel, Elton John, Celine Dion and Cher.  My
> musical taste seems to have stopped dead in the 80's.

Elton John... that would be a must-see for me!!! Simon&Garfunkel I've
already seen a few times... huge Paul Simon fan.

Last year we saw Rick Springfield... that was a total hoot. Not that
he was a favorite of mine when I was younger or anything (although I
do remember him on GH)... we got free tickets so we went. And my
goodness I've never seen a more conceited man!! He was so full of
himself, it was hysterical to watch. At one point he jumped into the
audience and started walking around, and he stopped right in front of
me and played for awhile, I got to touch him, he was that close.

I didn't *want* to touch him (he was all sweaty and frankly he is sooo
not my type), but there were all these women hanging on to his legs,
so DH took my hands and pushed me forward - telling me later it was
just so I could say I had touched someone famous!!!

He doesn't like to admit it, but DH is such a celebrity whore. I am
his perfect "wingman" because he can use me as his excuse to ask for a
signature "make it out to my wife." But it's really him who is the
total whore here. :-)

Okay, I guess I should admit this celebrity-collecting hobby of his is
actually kinda fun, and I've come to get a kick out of it too. It
"counts" if you get to touch, shake hands, meet, talk to, get a photo
with, or get a signature of someone famous. We've been collecting for
years now.... I think our first celebrity collected was that guy
Richard from Survivor. Or he was one of the first. Ran into him at a
show. I didn't even know who he was, until his fans started crowding
around him. He was on a date. This was before he went to prison.

We had our picture taken with Joan Collins last year. Now that one was
a fluke sighting... we were walking down a back alley in Toronto and
there was this limo with a handful of people waiting around, so we
stood and waited for a minute with them, no clue who we were
waitingon. A back door opened, and out she came. We just happened to
be at the right place at the right time, like Forest Gump.Very nice
lady, still quite attractive, and very hard to believe she's as old as
she is.

It can be anyone famous though, not just actors and muscians... nobel
prize winners, famous scientists (easy to collect in DH's line of
work), politicians all work too. Famous and infamous.. the infamous
are often the most fun, of course. :-)

jen
Vickie - 27 Jul 2007 23:19 GMT
> > > I love this time of year, there's always at least one concert around
> > > for us 40-somethings to enjoy. Police is also touring here... but we
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>
> jen

I have been to so many shows.  Friends and I would go just hang out in
SF and see impromptu shows when we didn't have the money.  The smaller
venues were always better.

Met a few artists too, just by happen-stance though.  We once were
walking down a street in the city and a U2 concert got out.  The guys
got out of their car and into a hotel we were walking by.  Nice
guys.

I was crazy for The Police.  Never got to see them.  Stuart Copeland
was my idol.  I would crank by drum heads so tight just to match his
sound.  Major talent in that band.

Here is a total embarrassing thing, but I would love to see Journey in
concert.  Although I don't think the lead singer is with them anymore
and his voice was so distinct it would probably be a let down.  I have
been listening to Stone in Love constantly, great summer song.

Vickie
Rog' - 28 Jul 2007 01:33 GMT
>>He doesn't like to admit it, but DH is such a celebrity whore.
>>I am his perfect "wingman" because he can use me as his
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>> it too. It "counts" if you get to touch, shake hands, meet, talk
>>to, get a photo with, or get a signature of someone famous....
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I got somthin'... Does it count if you are related to someone
who Jimmy Buffet threw up on in a hotel elevator?

What if you hung out for a day on the set of a made-for-TV
movie ("Clover") and watched a foxy Elizabeth McGovern
shoot a few scenes... and she had once been in a movie with
Kevin Bacon ("She's Having a Baby, 1988")?
shinypenny - 28 Jul 2007 03:10 GMT
> I got somthin'... Does it count if you are related to someone
> who Jimmy Buffet threw up on in a hotel elevator?
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> shoot a few scenes... and she had once been in a movie with
> Kevin Bacon ("She's Having a Baby, 1988")?

Oooh... those totally count. :-)

jen
Tai - 28 Jul 2007 03:37 GMT
>>> He doesn't like to admit it, but DH is such a celebrity whore.
>>> I am his perfect "wingman" because he can use me as his
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> I got somthin'... Does it count if you are related to someone
> who Jimmy Buffet threw up on in a hotel elevator?

Only if he gave your relative some shares in his company by way of an
apology.
Rog' - 28 Jul 2007 05:46 GMT
>> Rog':  Does it count if you are related to someone
>> who Jimmy Buffet threw up on in a hotel elevator?
> Only if he gave your relative some shares in his company
> by way of an apology.

Ahhh, Tai... I think you may be confusing Warren Buffett
and Jimmy Buffett.  Warren runs Berkshire Hathaway and
is a multi-millionaire (I'd love a share in that company).

Jimmy's company, OTOH, was the Coral Reefer Band.
He's a singer-songwriter.  You may have heard, "Its Five
O'Clock Somewhere," an oldie, "Come Monday," or
"Margaritaville" (may have caused the elevator incident).
Doug Anderson - 28 Jul 2007 05:46 GMT
> >> Rog':  Does it count if you are related to someone
> >> who Jimmy Buffet threw up on in a hotel elevator?
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> O'Clock Somewhere," an oldie, "Come Monday," or
> "Margaritaville" (may have caused the elevator incident).

Come on, Rog!  Maybe Tai really wants some shares in Margaritaville
Records!

(I think the company still exists, though I have no idea if it is
publicly traded - probably not.)

And you're forgetting Warren Buffet's hit single: "The Hedges Around
You"  (yes, that really is a song).
Rog' - 28 Jul 2007 06:36 GMT
>> Ahhh, Tai... I think you may be confusing Warren Buffett
>> and Jimmy Buffett.  Warren runs Berkshire Hathaway and
>> is a multi-millionaire (I'd love a share in that company).
>> Jimmy's company, OTOH, was the Coral Reefer Band.

> Come on, Rog!  Maybe Tai really wants some shares in
> Margaritaville Records!
> (I think the company still exists, though I have no idea if it is
> publicly traded - probably not.)
> And you're forgetting Warren Buffet's hit single: "The Hedges
> Around You"  (yes, that really is a song).

Yes it is.  But let's not forget, Jimmy's chain of Margaritaville
Cafes, nor his concert-crowd favorite: "Why Don't We Get
and Screw."  :-)
Tai - 28 Jul 2007 08:00 GMT
>>>> Rog':  Does it count if you are related to someone
>>>> who Jimmy Buffet threw up on in a hotel elevator?
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> Come on, Rog!  Maybe Tai really wants some shares in Margaritaville
> Records!

Damn, I should have read this first... ;)

> (I think the company still exists, though I have no idea if it is
> publicly traded - probably not.)
>
> And you're forgetting Warren Buffet's hit single: "The Hedges Around
> You"  (yes, that really is a song).
Tai - 28 Jul 2007 08:00 GMT
>>> Rog':  Does it count if you are related to someone
>>> who Jimmy Buffet threw up on in a hotel elevator?
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> and Jimmy Buffett.  Warren runs Berkshire Hathaway and
> is a multi-millionaire (I'd love a share in that company).

You're quite right, so I am!

> Jimmy's company, OTOH, was the Coral Reefer Band.
> He's a singer-songwriter.  You may have heard, "Its Five
> O'Clock Somewhere," an oldie, "Come Monday," or
> "Margaritaville" (may have caused the elevator incident).

LOL

Yes, I do know those songs, but didn't know the songwriter. Thanks.
Emma Anne - 28 Jul 2007 19:54 GMT
> (I'd love a share in that company)

Wow, yeah.  Isn't one share in the hundreds of thousands now?
shinypenny - 28 Jul 2007 03:09 GMT
> Here is a total embarrassing thing, but I would love to see Journey in
> concert.  Although I don't think the lead singer is with them anymore
> and his voice was so distinct it would probably be a let down.  I have
> been listening to Stone in Love constantly, great summer song.

I saw Journey in 1982, with the Rolling Stones. George Thorogood
opened up for the show, and they really stole the show, better than
Journey *and* even the Stones!

.... memories...

This is why we're seeing Thorogood this month! I recall they were just
so awesome in concert, wayyyy back when. DH is dubious about it.
Hopefully they are still just as good!

jen
Bill in Co. - 27 Jul 2007 22:18 GMT
>> I love this time of year, there's always at least one concert around
>> for us 40-somethings to enjoy. Police is also touring here... but we
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> Mac, Simon+Garfunkel, Elton John, Celine Dion and Cher.  My
> musical taste seems to have stopped dead in the 80's.

Sigh.    Another newager....
Bill in Co. - 27 Jul 2007 22:17 GMT
>> laugh... Emma, that was funny!
>>
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>
> Next week we're seeing two concerts, Squeeze & Cheap Trick,

Cheap Trick?   You newager, you!!
Emma Anne - 28 Jul 2007 01:12 GMT
> I like the idea of making a list.  There are a lot of things I want to
> do.  I better get it all in while I am still young.

Nah. I am having a better and better time as I get older.
Bill in Co. - 28 Jul 2007 02:56 GMT
>> I like the idea of making a list.  There are a lot of things I want to
>> do.  I better get it all in while I am still young.
>
> Nah. I am having a better and better time as I get older.

Oh hells bells, you ain't old yet!!
Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe - 28 Jul 2007 17:37 GMT
> >> I like the idea of making a list.  There are a lot of things I want to
> >> do.  I better get it all in while I am still young.
> >
> > Nah. I am having a better and better time as I get older.
>
> Oh hells bells,

Hey, that's MY line!  :-p~~~

Kitten
trying to work out of a depression
Bill in Co. - 28 Jul 2007 19:53 GMT
>>>> I like the idea of making a list.  There are a lot of things I want to
>>>> do.  I better get it all in while I am still young.
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>
> Hey, that's MY line!  :-p~~~

LOL.   So you can join this Nouveau Age, and just sue me!     (And that will
be $75 for this email exchange, thank you very much (just send it to my
legal firm).

> Kitten
> trying to work out of a depression

I probably can't help you on that one.    Well, maybe...     Sometimes those
in the forest can be a good resource, too.
shinypenny - 28 Jul 2007 03:12 GMT
> > I like the idea of making a list.  There are a lot of things I want to
> > do.  I better get it all in while I am still young.
>
> Nah. I am having a better and better time as I get older.

Exactly! When you are older:

- you have more freedom
- you typically have more money
- you have less insecurity and an attitude of live for the day instead
of tomorrow

jen
urf - 28 Jul 2007 16:18 GMT
You also have assorted aches and pains that you never
knew existed. The alternative is not good though.

>> > I like the idea of making a list.  There are a lot of things I want to
>> > do.  I better get it all in while I am still young.
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>
> jen
Tai - 28 Jul 2007 03:25 GMT
> laugh... Emma, that was funny!
>
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> I am headed to Vegas this weekend with my sister.  I have always
> wanted to see Blue Man Group, so here we go!  Any other suggestions?

Think about going back to school, for fun or for eventual profit?
Bill in Co. - 27 Jul 2007 22:15 GMT
>> I am not a person who wants to start popping pills.
>
> Unlike the rest of us, who are *thrilled* at the idea of psychotropic
> meds.

If you send over the right kinda pill, I could get thrilled, I think.    At
least for a little while, anyways.
Tai - 28 Jul 2007 03:23 GMT
>>> I am not a person who wants to start popping pills.
>>
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> If you send over the right kinda pill, I could get thrilled, I think.
> At least for a little while, anyways.

You should try fishing, Bill! The *real* kind with real worms... ;)
Bill in Co. - 28 Jul 2007 03:25 GMT
>>>> I am not a person who wants to start popping pills.
>>>
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>
> You should try fishing, Bill! The *real* kind with real worms... ;)

Aw, shucks.     But I like fantasyland.
Mia - 27 Jul 2007 23:15 GMT
Medically, you might suffer from hypothyroidism, underactive thyroid,
which manifests itself in different ways and can occur at any age.
Over 60 % of the cases are said to go undiagnosed but we women suffer
from it twice as often as men do. Check out a website to see a list of
symptoms, and whether they apply to you.

If you don't think it's a medical problem, I suggest you make an
appointment with a psychologist. You might be so busy that you don't
get enough time for yourself to pinpoint what it is - spending some
time at a counselor's office may cause something to surface from
unconscious (or unexplored) levels...

I personally believe that I'm only as happy as I let myself be. Yes,
bad things happen but I use them as stepping stones. As far as good
things go, I don't expect exterior events/people to stimulate me
("Make me happy!"); I find happiness within myself. And every now and
then, if I feel down/unhappy, I allow myself feel that way. Do you?

I hope it's just a temporary rut. In the meantime, have a Kleenex
moment when you feel like it. Good luck and keep us posted! :)
S.D. - 27 Jul 2007 17:53 GMT
> Is there something I am just not doing right?

Maybe, just maybe - there's a part of you inside your head that
interjects thoughts like; you're living a life that really isn't what
makes your boat float.

Course, there's always the possibility of depression and should be
evaluated... but, I am not sure that's so - because you said "I am a
very upbeat person, usually happy", you describe your life as being
generally happy.  Was one of your 4 children born recently?  Maybe your
body is changing somehow.  Could be your just feeling depressed; you can
feel that you know.  Then again, might be some feeling in you from
another time (childhood), surfacing now.  

As for "clinical depression", it has no reasoning; but, it usually
doesn't happen abruptly.  It's a debilitating process usually brought
about by various types of stress, that shows ongoing signs over time; to
the point in some, of keeping them from doing what is required of them
daily.  
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