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I just paid a guy $125.00 to flip a switch. Flip a goddamn, good for nothing, shitty, craptard, take it up the a.s, f-ing, gonna take a hammer to my head SWITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why couldn't someone notice this switch? Why couldn't the guy say, "Hey - no charge."? I am soooooooo pissed. GAAAAAAAAAAA! Vickie >I just paid a guy $125.00 to flip a switch. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Vickie Will it help any to know that I have done this too? Was this the red master boiler switch? I *almost* did it twice. At least you are in rotten company! > >I just paid a guy $125.00 to flip a switch. > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Will it help any to know that I have done this too? Was this the red master > boiler switch? I *almost* did it twice. Nope. TV switch thingy which is NOT the power switch. > At least you are in rotten company! Thank God. Yes, it helps very much. But I still want to kick myself, HARD. Vickie >>> I just paid a guy $125.00 to flip a switch. >> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > HARD. > Vickie The tv has a different switch? > >> "Vickie" <lilliputianbizz...@gmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > The tv has a different switch?- Hide quoted text - YES! How the hell should someone know that?????? Christsakes, dumbass thing! V > Nope. TV switch thingy which is NOT the power switch. Did you loose the picture as a result of pushing buttons you were unsure of on the remote, and called a repair guy?  SignatureSD:) "Intellectuals solve problems; geniuses prevent them.(A.E.)" My disclaimer: I can say, but can't make you see...(S.D.) On Jan 23, 4:20 pm, "S.D." <" \"S.D.\" <nospam"@nospamSD.com>> wrote: > > Nope. TV switch thingy which is NOT the power switch. > > Did you loose the picture as a result of pushing buttons you were unsure > of on the remote, and called a repair guy? > -- No. I am not sure what happened. Just went off, couldn't get nothing, not even the red light for off. DH and handyman guy down the street said call repair guy, that they didn't know what was wrong. So, I called. I'm thinking one of 2 things happened. My son was throwing a baseball around and he could have hit the switch or the 360 is close to it and someone could have bumped it while turning it on or off. I am betting it was my son and the damn baseball. But still man, why couldn't this repair guy just give me some slack here, you know? I mean really, SD, he was here for 15 mins. He had to unhook everything to get to the back of the TV. Now I got cables everywhere and have NO CLUE where any of them go! Vickie On Jan 23, 4:20 pm, "S.D." <" \"S.D.\" <nospam"@nospamSD.com>> wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:12:34 -0800 (PST), Vickie wrote: > > Nope. TV switch thingy which is NOT the power switch. > > Did you loose the picture as a result of pushing buttons you were unsure > of on the remote, and called a repair guy? > -- No. I am not sure what happened. Just went off, couldn't get nothing, not even the red light for off. DH and handyman guy down the street said call repair guy, that they didn't know what was wrong. So, I called. I'm thinking one of 2 things happened. My son was throwing a baseball around and he could have hit the switch or the 360 is close to it and someone could have bumped it while turning it on or off. I am betting it was my son and the damn baseball. But still man, why couldn't this repair guy just give me some slack here, you know? I mean really, SD, he was here for 15 mins. He had to unhook everything to get to the back of the TV. Now I got cables everywhere and have NO CLUE where any of them go! Was this a regular on/off switch, or a reset button? > On Jan 23, 4:20 pm, "S.D." <" \"S.D.\" <nospam"@nospamSD.com>> wrote: >> On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:12:34 -0800 (PST), Vickie wrote: [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Was this a regular on/off switch, or a reset button? Joy, if you would like to solve the quoting problem you have when responding to google groups posts, consider downloading and running freeware OE-QuoteFix. > On Jan 23, 4:20 pm, "S.D." <" \"S.D.\" <nospam"@nospamSD.com>> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Was this a regular on/off switch, or a reset button? On/Off? Like power, no. Reset I guess. What does a TV need a reset for? Vickie >> On Jan 23, 4:20 pm, "S.D." <" \"S.D.\" <nospam"@nospamSD.com>> wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Vickie For all the crap that is on there. On Jan 23, 10:21 pm, "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudg...@earthlink.net> wrote: > >> "Vickie" <lilliputianbizz...@gmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > For all the crap that is on there.- Hide quoted text - My crap? Or crap in general, like what is on the stations? Afraid a reset button can't take that stuff away. Vickie > On Jan 23, 10:21 pm, "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudg...@earthlink.net> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > My crap? Or crap in general, like what is on the stations? Exactly (the latter). > Afraid a reset button can't take that stuff away. Damn, that's too bad. On Jan 24, 1:38 pm, "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudg...@earthlink.net> wrote: > > On Jan 23, 10:21 pm, "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudg...@earthlink.net> > > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > >>>>> On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:12:34 -0800 (PST), Vickie wrote: > >>> Reset I guess. What does a TV need a reset for? > >> For all the crap that is on there.- Hide quoted text - > > My crap? Or crap in general, like what is on the stations? > Exactly (the latter). > > Afraid a reset button can't take that stuff away. > Damn, that's too bad.- Hide quoted text - "I find television very educating. Every time somebody turns on the set, I go into the other room and read a book." -Groucho Marx V > On Jan 24, 1:38 pm, "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudg...@earthlink.net> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > "I find television very educating. Every time somebody turns on the > set, I go into the other room and read a book." -Groucho Marx LOL! But still, who in heck needs HDTV, for what is generally there? Regular (LDTV), lol, TV is just fine. If you really want Hi def, go to an art gallery or museum, and see the real thing. Because it ain't there in a TV set. :-) On Jan 24, 4:04 pm, "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudg...@earthlink.net> wrote: > > On Jan 24, 1:38 pm, "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudg...@earthlink.net> > > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > If you really want Hi def, go to an art gallery or museum, and see the real > thing. Because it ain't there in a TV set. :-)- Hide quoted text - But if I buy a ticket and go to the game, you will say I am supporting the downfall of humanity, grasshopper! Vickie > On Jan 24, 4:04 pm, "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudg...@earthlink.net> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > Vickie I said art gallery and museum. NOT games!! HUGE difference. On Jan 24, 4:46 pm, "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudg...@earthlink.net> wrote: > > On Jan 24, 4:04 pm, "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudg...@earthlink.net> > > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > I said art gallery and museum. NOT games!! HUGE difference.- Hide quoted text - And that's why I need the HDTV, to watch the games! Vickie > What does a TV need a reset for? Resets are for infrared remote controls; recycle power, memory and satellite dish receivers need resets now and again. SignatureSD:) "Intellectuals solve problems; geniuses prevent them.(A.E.)" My disclaimer: I can say, but can't make you see...(S.D.) On Jan 24, 8:16 am, "S.D." <" \"S.D.\" <nospam"@nospamSD.com>> wrote: > > What does a TV need a reset for? > > Resets are for infrared remote controls; recycle power, memory and > satellite dish receivers need resets now and again. > -- Okay. I have no idea how our remote works. I assume infrared cause you got to point it in the vicinity of the box. I hate remotes. I mean I love what they do, but every-time you get a new piece of equipment you get a new remote and it throws everything off. Right now I have to look at the HD-dvd menu with the 360 controller. I really have to get one of those fancy new "everything" remotes AND laminate the instructions. Vickie > On Jan 24, 8:16 am, "S.D." <" \"S.D.\" <nospam"@nospamSD.com>> wrote: >>> What does a TV need a reset for? [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Vickie I have a Sony universal remote (programmable). It *really* simplies everything only needing ONE remote to control everything - once you get it set up. > I really have to get one of those fancy new "everything" remotes AND > laminate the instructions. those are great, I've been looking at them. But, you might want to set down before looking that the prices; progammiable ones can cost upwards of 400-600$ plus the cost to have a technician visit the house and program it... SignatureSD:) "Intellectuals solve problems; geniuses prevent them.(A.E.)" My disclaimer: I can say, but can't make you see...(S.D.) >> I really have to get one of those fancy new "everything" remotes AND >> laminate the instructions. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > of 400-600$ plus the cost to have a technician visit the house and > program it... ??? My programmable remote was under $50 (Sony). What are you talking about? A remote that controls the whole house, including all appliances? LOL. > A remote that controls the whole house, including all appliances? > LOL. Nope, it controls multiple units that might not be of the same make, and all their subfunctions. And, if you want, buy extra plug-in control units so other home functions can be added in including hm security system, among others. SignatureSD:) "Intellectuals solve problems; geniuses prevent them.(A.E.)" My disclaimer: I can say, but can't make you see...(S.D.) >> A remote that controls the whole house, including all appliances? >> LOL. > > Nope, it controls multiple units that might not be of the same make, and > all their subfunctions. My Sony does that. It cost a bit less than $50. Well, it controls most of the important subfunctions, but not all of them. I'm not sure any remote controls *all* subfunctions of *all* the various manufacturers components. > And, if you want, buy extra plug-in control > units so other home functions can be added in including hm security > system, among others. That mine doesn't do. On Jan 24, 4:00 pm, "S.D." <" \"S.D.\" <nospam"@nospamSD.com>> wrote: > > I really have to get one of those fancy new "everything" remotes AND > > laminate the instructions. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > program it... > -- The logitech kind? Or are you looking at Magnolia? Vickie > On Jan 24, 4:00 pm, "S.D." <" \"S.D.\" <nospam"@nospamSD.com>> wrote: >>> I really have to get one of those fancy new "everything" remotes AND [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Vickie You have magnolias over there? On Jan 24, 4:35 pm, "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudg...@earthlink.net> wrote: > > On Jan 24, 4:00 pm, "S.D." <" \"S.D.\" <nospam"@nospamSD.com>> wrote: > >>> I really have to get one of those fancy new "everything" remotes AND [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > You have magnolias over there? Yes, with enormous white blossoms that look like bows. Gorgeous. Vickie > Magnolia? those are flowers... :) SignatureSD:) "Intellectuals solve problems; geniuses prevent them.(A.E.)" My disclaimer: I can say, but can't make you see...(S.D.) On Jan 24, 4:45 pm, "S.D." <" \"S.D.\" <nospam"@nospamSD.com>> wrote: > > Magnolia? > > those are flowers... :) I was looking at logitech anyway. Vickie > But still man, why couldn't this repair guy just give me some slack > here, you know? I mean really, SD, he was here for 15 mins. He had > to unhook everything to get to the back of the TV. Now I got cables > everywhere and have NO CLUE where any of them go! That sounds like a nice job for your husband to take care of when he gets home! I feel your pain. A few months ago I had to get a repairman in to stop the water gushing out of our rooftop cooling system. He put up his ladder, shinnied up it, reached into the cistern,bent the arm of the floating ball and came down again, problem fixed. That 5 minutes cost us $120 and was well within my husband's considerable handyman talents. He was busy that week, though, and hadn't had enough time to at least check it out and in the meantime water was a-wastin'. However, the guy had to drive to our place and take that amount of time to make his mini-fix so we didn't expect him to do it at his own expense. The worst one of those wasteful expenses I remember was years ago when an old top loading washing machine refused to empty. It turned out a face cloth had slipped between the drum and the outside wall of the tank and clogged the drain. Another 5 minute financial ouchy! > > But still man, why couldn't this repair guy just give me some slack > > here, you know? I mean really, SD, he was here for 15 mins. He had [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > That sounds like a nice job for your husband to take care of when he gets > home! Yeah. He was pretty livid. After he cooled down he said he felt like less of a man, lol. (kidding of course) It was the cherry on the cake for him as he ended up already having 3 altercations in the city. I have been giving him a wide berth. > I feel your pain. A few months ago I had to get a repairman in to stop the > water gushing out of our rooftop cooling system. He put up his ladder, [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > However, the guy had to drive to our place and take that amount of time to > make his mini-fix so we didn't expect him to do it at his own expense. I really wouldn't have expected this guy to either. Cept I would think he could have driven over, yanked out cables, and flipped a switch for what?, $50.00? > The worst one of those wasteful expenses I remember was years ago when an > old top loading washing machine refused to empty. It turned out a face cloth > had slipped between the drum and the outside wall of the tank and clogged > the drain. Another 5 minute financial ouchy! Guess it happens to us all. And I appreciate hearing everyone else's "mistakes" too. Vickie >>> But still man, why couldn't this repair guy just give me some slack >>> here, you know? I mean really, SD, he was here for 15 mins. He had [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > think he could have driven over, yanked out cables, and flipped a > switch for what?, $50.00? I wouldn't have paid him until he plugged the cables back in! >> The worst one of those wasteful expenses I remember was years ago >> when an old top loading washing machine refused to empty. It turned [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Vickie > >>> But still man, why couldn't this repair guy just give me some slack > >>> here, you know? I mean really, SD, he was here for 15 mins. He had [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > I wouldn't have paid him until he plugged the cables back in! Well, I kind of asked but it didn't get me anywhere. I then just assumed he was TV guy not Cable guy. Vickie [...] >>> I really wouldn't have expected this guy to either. Cept I would >>> think he could have driven over, yanked out cables, and flipped a [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Well, I kind of asked but it didn't get me anywhere. I then just > assumed he was TV guy not Cable guy. Besides, if it's like here you'd have been paying him for the quarter hour on top of the callout fee (and optional parts) and he'd have charge you a gazillion dollars for the time he took to put them back, plus probably done it wrong anyway. On Jan 23, 4:20 pm, "S.D." <" \"S.D.\" <nospam"@nospamSD.com>> wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:12:34 -0800 (PST), Vickie wrote: > > Nope. TV switch thingy which is NOT the power switch. > > Did you loose the picture as a result of pushing buttons you were unsure > of on the remote, and called a repair guy? > -- No. I am not sure what happened. Just went off, couldn't get nothing, not even the red light for off. DH and handyman guy down the street said call repair guy, that they didn't know what was wrong. So, I called. I'm thinking one of 2 things happened. My son was throwing a baseball around and he could have hit the switch or the 360 is close to it and someone could have bumped it while turning it on or off. I am betting it was my son and the damn baseball. But still man, why couldn't this repair guy just give me some slack here, you know? I mean really, SD, he was here for 15 mins. He had to unhook everything to get to the back of the TV. Now I got cables everywhere and have NO CLUE where any of them go! Vickie Vickie, for that kinda money, he should have atleast put the wires and cables back the way they were! EB. FWIW, when I moved back to the USA from Germany and I put my stereo in for voltage conversion. I didn't know there was a little pin setting inside the casing that did it. Yeah, I had to take the tape deck apart, but how was I to know that? Got charged 75 bucks. I bet the guys at the store got a good laugh about that. EB > "Vickie" <lilliputianbizz...@gmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Yeah, I had to take the tape deck apart, but how was I to know that? Got > charged 75 bucks. I bet the guys at the store got a good laugh about that. I was carrying on a bit, you know, kinda talking to myself, mumbling, "stupid stupid stupid", so this repair guy probably enjoyed the show as well. Ah well....just glad you guys share in the moments with me. Vickie Just went off, couldn't get nothing, not even the red light for off. DH and handyman guy down the street said call repair guy, that they didn't know what was wrong. So, I called. >I'm thinking one of 2 things happened. My son was throwing a baseball around and he could have hit the switch or the 360 is close to it and someone could have bumped it while turning it on or off. I am betting it was my son and the damn baseball. But still man, why couldn't this repair guy just give me some slack here, you know? I mean really, SD, he was here for 15 mins. He had to unhook everything to get to the back of the TV. Now I got cables everywhere and have NO CLUE where any of them go! >Vickie Did you read the manual? RTFM > Just went off, couldn't get > nothing, not even the red light for off. DH and handyman guy down the [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Did you read the manual? RTFM I couldn't find it. We have a drawer with stacks of manuals, couldn't find it. Guess I had better go through it, organize it. What the heck is RTFM? really 'tupid f-ing mistake? V >> Just went off, couldn't get >> nothing, not even the red light for off. DH and handyman guy down the [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > find it. Guess I had better go through it, organize it. > What the heck is RTFM? really 'tupid f-ing mistake? Read The F-ing Manual I can never find the ones I need when I need them either. :-( Zorra > >> "Vickie" <lilliputianbizz...@gmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Read The F-ing Manual Ha. Close enough, eh? > I can never find the ones I need when I need them either. :-( Yeah, pisser that. Vickie >>>> "Vickie" <lilliputianbizz...@gmail.com> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > Yeah, pisser that. Okay, this one I can help with! After years of wasting time searching for instruction booklets when I needed them one day I gathered them all up from the odd places they were hidden around the house and put them in a display book. Most of ours are slim enough to fit into A4 sized plastic sleeves (you use different paper sizes, I think), but you could do something similar with some sort of expanding file satchel or a drop file in a filing cabinet. Since then, every time I've bought an appliance I've added the instruction manual with the receipt and any warranties to that file. I started adding from the back of the sleeves so the most recently purchased items are always in front. I can thank Shinypenny-Jen for the idea. (All credit where it's due!) > Okay, this one I can help with! After years of wasting time searching for > instruction booklets when I needed them one day I gathered them all up from [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > I can thank Shinypenny-Jen for the idea. (All credit where it's due!) I should've read farther! Yep, this is a great system. Now you just have to take it one step farther, put in a sheet that lists phone numbers for repair shops and other emergency numbers.... and add an extra set of housekeys (those are always handy and I don't know about you, but always getting lost around here!). jen >> Okay, this one I can help with! After years of wasting time >> searching for instruction booklets when I needed them one day I [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > are always handy and I don't know about you, but always getting lost > around here!). A list is a good idea, we mostly rely on the the magnets stuck all over our fridge. I do keep the invoices for any repairs in the same folder with the receipts and instruction books, though, so I know who did the last lot of work on something. The keys we have covered in their own special place! >> I can never find the ones I need when I need them either. :-( > >Yeah, pisser that. I've been able to find manuals for my vacuum cleaner, weed-whacker, and lawnmower all online so that's worth a try next time you're looking for a manual and can't find it. SignatureLauri in WA > Read The F-ing Manual > > I can never find the ones I need when I need them either. :-( I solved this problem last year!! We used to stash all the manuals in the back of our file cabinet, in a big unruly mess. Because we were doing a home exchange with another family, I pulled out all the manuals, went through them and discarded those for which we no longer owned the appliance, then put the current ones inside plastic sleeves. The kind of sleeves that have three holes for placing in a binder. So now all my instruction manuals are nicely organized in a 3-ring binder!!! This binder includes everything anyone would want to know if they were staying at our house, including emergency phone numbers, neighbor's numbers, bus routes, maps, take-out menus, extra house keys.... all in one place! I think it's a worthwhile exercise to go through even if you never intend to do a home exchange. So nice to have all that info handy in one place. Actually the whole exercise of seeing our house the way a stranger might see it was a good one... helped me re-organize so household items were more intuitively stored. jen >> Read The F-ing Manual >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > for placing in a binder. So now all my instruction manuals are nicely > organized in a 3-ring binder!!! I actually created a file drawer, and organized them all into categories -- electronics, lawn equipment, appliances, toys, etc. But things don't always make it in, or if they get pulled out, they don't always make it back. That's the trouble with the best organization method in the world -- you still have to follow it!!!! Zorra > This binder includes everything anyone would want to know if they were > staying at our house, including emergency phone numbers, neighbor's [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > jen >>> Read The F-ing Manual >>> [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] >> >> jen I throw my manuals away. Then when I need them, I find them on the company website. >>>> Read The F-ing Manual >>>> [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > I throw my manuals away. Then when I need them, I find them on the > company website. Not a bad idea either. That's what I ended up doing when I couldn't find the one for the camera. Zorra >> Read The F-ing Manual >> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >might see it was a good one... helped me re-organize so household >items were more intuitively stored. Thanks for all this useful info, Jen. I'm in major home and home office reorg mode, and I went out this afternoon and bought a couple of binders and plastic casings. Preparing now to sit down in the middle of the floor amidst the piles of appliance, computer hardware & software, and other guides and start filing them away!!! Barb >>> Read The F-ing Manual >>> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > middle of the floor amidst the piles of appliance, computer hardware & > software, and other guides and start filing them away!!! Enjoy! I wish I could summon up some of that reorg energy, myself, and tackle the black hole that is our bedroom wardrobe! I get part way with the hanging and floor spaces but the upper shelves are jammed with a mixture of clutter and the thought of pulling it all down and then having to sort through it and probably end up putting most of it back defeats me! Besides, I'll need to use a ladder and I'm not good with ladders. Or step stools or anything esle that involves me climbing more than a foot off the floor. >>>> Read The F-ing Manual >>>> [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] >stools or anything esle that involves me climbing more than a foot off the >floor. There are certain times of the year that are better for this kind of activity than others. If it was mid-summer here, I can guarantee you I'd not be in home organizing mode ;-) It's been about -8 C here today, so a good day to stay inside and get stuff done. The other thing I'm trying to do is not see the whole of something that needs doing but try to break it into separate, discrete parts and do one thing at a time. This is a huge challenge for me, but I find that when I keep at it, I do make slow progress! Barb >>>> Read The F-ing Manual >>>> [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > stools or anything esle that involves me climbing more than a foot off the > floor. Please release me, let me go! For you don't love me anymore! www.flylady.com. If you dont know what is on the shelves then you don't need it. Throw it. Just my opinion. >> I wish I could summon up some of that reorg energy, myself, and >> tackle the black hole that is our bedroom wardrobe! I get part way [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> step stools or anything esle that involves me climbing more than a >> foot off the floor. > Please release me, let me go! For you don't love me anymore! > www.flylady.com. > > If you dont know what is on the shelves then you don't need it. Throw > it. > Just my opinion. It's good advice. Unfortunately, I do know what's on the shelves and that we do need to keep about 90% of it. The problem is more in the way it's currently so disorganised that we can't easily get to specific items when we need to. I have a friend who will come to our houses and "fung" - as in feng shui - people's cupboards for them but she's ruthless and I am far too owned by my stuff to let her near it! I did learn to zone clean from FlyLady, though! > But still man, why couldn't this repair guy just give me some slack > here, you know? I mean really, SD, he was here for 15 mins. He had > to unhook everything to get to the back of the TV. Now I got cables > everywhere and have NO CLUE where any of them go! I understand your feelings; but have to say if a handiman did what you wanted for quick fix visits, he'd never make any $$$. It takes time, maybe vehicle wear and gas, to bring experience to your door for a quick fix... Furthermore, you're not the only one that happens to. If he gets 3-5 calls like that a day, look how much time, knowledge and money he's thrown away making such problems go away for NOTHING. I have a very complex big screen system tied into living rm audio surround sound, satellite, multiple screens in other rooms, with a VCR, CD player and Tevo tied in; that system is also connected to a muliti-speaker system in ceilings of 4 other rooms...cables up the gazoo... :) and 5 remotes. After loosing a picture, I've spent as much as $100 for a quick visit after the wrong button was hit on the remote and my wife couldn't tell me what she'd done. I couldn't figure out what she'd done either; so I had to call someone that could - that costs. SignatureSD:) "Intellectuals solve problems; geniuses prevent them.(A.E.)" My disclaimer: I can say, but can't make you see...(S.D.) >> But still man, why couldn't this repair guy just give me some slack >> here, you know? I mean really, SD, he was here for 15 mins. He had [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > gets 3-5 calls like that a day, look how much time, knowledge and money > he's thrown away making such problems go away for NOTHING. agreed. Most people have no idea how much it all really costs. It's not just "flip a switch" - it's probably 2 hours out of the guy's day (when all is said and done, figuring scheduling jobs - he probably blocked out at least an hour for her - time spent making the appointment, invoicing, etc) Not to mention that he knew which switch to flip - maybe someone else would work cheaper, but would take 4 hours to finally figure it out. So that knowledge is worth something. $125 to have a repair person come to your house for *anything* is a bargain. Although he really should have hooked the cables back up. I don't understand why he didn't. Unless it was custom equipment, perhaps??? > "S.D. >" <" \"S.D.\" <nospam"@nospamSD.com> wrote in messagenews:14o7qz07utgm9.lnvei3hhz0y6.dlg@40tude.net... > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > $125 to have a repair person come to your house for *anything* is a bargain. If you say so, then I am ok with it. > Although he really should have hooked the cables back up. I don't understand > why he didn't. Unless it was custom equipment, perhaps??? No. Just the typical stuff: sound system, dvd/vcr, digital cable box, x-box 360.....that's it I think. He did mention something about stuff not being labeled, but like I told Steph, maybe he doesn't know anything about cables. Vickie On Jan 24, 8:13 am, "S.D." <" \"S.D.\" <nospam"@nospamSD.com>> wrote: > > But still man, why couldn't this repair guy just give me some slack > > here, you know? I mean really, SD, he was here for 15 mins. He had [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > gets 3-5 calls like that a day, look how much time, knowledge and money > he's thrown away making such problems go away for NOTHING. Yeah. Just two different feelings came out. The one where 3 adults looked and could not find a stupid switch and the money. If this is the going price for a home visit from a tv doc, okay then. But I wasn't sure. Like with the plumbers. They are always negotiating price and stuff, so I am always in the dark about what should cost what. Time and convenience does cost.......but a switch, man, just galls me. Last night my husband asked me to turn on the hall light. I told him it would cost $125.00. Okay letting go now. Vickie If this is the going price for a home visit from a tv doc, okay then. But I wasn't sure. Like with the plumbers. They are always negotiating price and stuff, so I am always in the dark about what should cost what. Time and convenience does cost.......but a switch, man, just galls me. ----------------- Tell me, who's the fool on this one... A few years back, my wife "sold" her car ('97 Altima) to one of her sons and recently agreed to fix a few things (he can't afford to). The mechanic called a few minutes ago and ran off a litany of problems totalling ~$2,500. "You're funny," I told him. "Now, tell me them the 3-4 things that /have/ to be done to keep it running for 6 months." We settled on about $1,250... about what the feds are talking about giving us as a tax rebate. <sigh> > If this is the going price for a home visit from a tv doc, okay then. > But I wasn't sure. Like with the plumbers. They are always [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > it running for 6 months." We settled on about $1,250... about > what the feds are talking about giving us as a tax rebate. <sigh> Rog', I have these fond hopes that once my children are out of their tertiary schooling (which will be subsided to some minor extent by their parents but not paid for fully) they will be paying for this sort of things out of their own earnings. Please tell me I'm not being naive!! > Tell me, who's the fool on this one... > A few years back, my wife "sold" her car ('97 Altima) to one of [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > it running for 6 months." We settled on about $1,250... about > what the feds are talking about giving us as a tax rebate. <sigh> I wonder, do you think more men get ripped off or women? I think it's the women. Or maybe you men have a better way of covering up your ignorance? Mechanic: Your huggle-buggle-bob needs to be replaced asap. Could destroy the plankety-plapper and run you off a deserted road in the middle of the night. It costs 1000.00. Woman: Wow that's a lot, ummm, ummm, yeah okay, thanks. Mechanic: Your huggle-buggle-bob needs to be replaced asap. Man: Oh yeah? Can't I get that part for half that and it includes a new plankety-plapper. Either way, that's too steep. Pull my other leg while your at it. Mechanic: Well that's the going rate, but we could put a mub-duba- club in, and it would run fine and cost around 600.00. Man: Yep. That's sounds about right. Vickie >> Tell me, who's the fool on this one... >> A few years back, my wife "sold" her car ('97 Altima) to one of [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > I wonder, do you think more men get ripped off or women? Probably women - for most of the mechanical things. For other things, not sure. > I think it's the women. Or maybe you men have a better way of > covering up your ignorance? [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Vickie I wonder, do you think more men get ripped off or women? I think it's the women. Or maybe you men have a better way of covering up your ignorance? ... ----------- My wife, like you, would say, "Well, if it needs to be done..." She's easily talked into stuff by slick salesmen. OTOH, I'd say, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." My wife calls me a "tight-a.s" but recognizes its value. She'll often say, "You'll need to talk to my DH about this." I've known my regular mechanic for nearly 20 years (through both our divorces). I know he won't rip me off, but I also know that he likes to fix not only the stuff that's "broke," but also everything that's "on its way out," and I need to question him carefully about that -- the radiatior, the struts, the driver-side axle -- can't that wait? > Time and convenience does cost.......but a switch, man, just galls > me. > Last night my husband asked me to turn on the hall light. I told him > it would cost $125.00. > Okay letting go now. ROTFL!!! Zorra > > Time and convenience does cost.......but a switch, man, just galls > > me. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > ROTFL!!! Glad you liked that. :-) You know - us SAHM's could earn an awesome living for all the switches we flip, day in and day out. Vickie > Time and convenience does cost.......but a switch, man, just galls > me. Same here, reason we have a maid and gardner... wifey and I would rather being doing other more enjoyable activities:) I have the solution,,, learn how the system operates so that won't happen again .. OR get to know the guy better by offering him favors; see if he bits LOL, and he'd better hope you don't.... LOL SignatureSD:) "Intellectuals solve problems; geniuses prevent them.(A.E.)" My disclaimer: I can say, but can't make you see...(S.D.) On Jan 24, 4:05 pm, "S.D." <" \"S.D.\" <nospam"@nospamSD.com>> wrote: > > Time and convenience does cost.......but a switch, man, just galls > > me. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > know the guy better by offering him favors; see if he bits LOL, and he'd > better hope you don't.... LOL It won't, will not, ever, happen again. Favors? Like party favors? Those little candy almonds and such? lol Vickie > It won't, will not, ever, happen again. :( > Favors? Like party favors? Those little candy almonds and such? lol This rain is a drag... I am thinking more of party flavors --- yummy SignatureSD:) "Intellectuals solve problems; geniuses prevent them.(A.E.)" My disclaimer: I can say, but can't make you see...(S.D.) > Nope. TV switch thingy which is NOT the power switch. Now, if you are like me, stick a note next to this switch reminding you what to do next time. > > Nope. TV switch thingy which is NOT the power switch. > > Now, if you are like me, stick a note next to this switch reminding you > what to do next time. Good idea. V > I just paid a guy $125.00 to flip a switch. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Vickie Was he a lawyer? Which switch was it? On Jan 23, 3:59 pm, "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudg...@earthlink.net> wrote: > > I just paid a guy $125.00 to flip a switch. > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Was he a lawyer? > Which switch was it? Some dumbass switch, a little tiny thing, on the side of the huge, gigantor damn tv. It has a dash like negative sign, which I guess means negative-nothing- no picture-nada, and a o sign which NOW I KNOW means o for ON. What the hell man? Is it some kind of reset thing? Why the hell do you need this? There is a Power switch so......wtf? $125 bucks, Bill! $125 BUCKS! damn Vickie > On Jan 23, 3:59 pm, "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudg...@earthlink.net> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Vickie Oh gimme a break. You must be out of touch with the real world. Any lawyer makes that on answering just ONE email, or ONE 15 minute phone call. On Jan 23, 9:52 pm, "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudg...@earthlink.net> wrote: > > On Jan 23, 3:59 pm, "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudg...@earthlink.net> > > wrote: > Oh gimme a break. You must be out of touch with the real world. Any > lawyer makes that on answering just ONE email, or ONE 15 minute phone call.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Don't some lawyers give out free advice? Hmm, maybe I am thinking of something else. Vickie > On Jan 23, 9:52 pm, "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudg...@earthlink.net> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Vickie Well sure! They give out a "free consulation", and then the next visit is $300 an hour, $75 for each 15 minute phone call, $75 for each email, and about x thousand for a "retainer". BFD!! On Jan 24, 1:31 pm, "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudg...@earthlink.net> wrote: > > On Jan 23, 9:52 pm, "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudg...@earthlink.net> > > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > $300 an hour, $75 for each 15 minute phone call, $75 for each email, and > about x thousand for a "retainer". BFD!!- Hide quoted text - Never had a lawyer so I don't know what the going rate is. OMG! LOLOL I mean never needed,... you know what I mean. V On Jan 23, 3:59 pm, "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudg...@earthlink.net> wrote: > Vickie wrote: > > I just paid a guy $125.00 to flip a switch. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Was he a lawyer? > Which switch was it? Some dumbass switch, a little tiny thing, on the side of the huge, gigantor damn tv. It has a dash like negative sign, which I guess means negative-nothing- no picture-nada, and a o sign which NOW I KNOW means o for ON. What the hell man? Is it some kind of reset thing? Why the hell do you need this? There is a Power switch so......wtf? $125 bucks, Bill! $125 BUCKS! damn Vickie I went to Big Box Store today to redeem a gift card (I got myself an mp3 player) and DS10 and I got sidetracked by the "home theater" display. We sat down in front of an $8000.00 TV with a $400.00 remote and went all "ooooh and ahhh", and I thought of you and your gigantor-a.s TV! > On Jan 23, 3:59 pm, "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudg...@earthlink.net> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > down in front of an $8000.00 TV with a $400.00 remote and went all "ooooh > and ahhh", and I thought of you and your gigantor-a.s TV! An $8000 TV??? Is that "where we are", now??? What a sad commentary ..... on our society. And "civilization". >> On Jan 23, 3:59 pm, "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudg...@earthlink.net> >> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > An $8000 TV??? Is that "where we are", now??? > What a sad commentary ..... on our society. And "civilization". If I had that TV, I'd never stop watching it. It'd be like crack. Our newest TV is the same age as our oldest son - 18! And it still works fine. >>> On Jan 23, 3:59 pm, "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudg...@earthlink.net> >>> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > Our newest TV is the same age as our oldest son - 18! > And it still works fine. And about the same age as my car - which is also working just fine. :-) > On Jan 23, 3:59 pm, "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudg...@earthlink.net> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > down in front of an $8000.00 TV with a $400.00 remote and went all "ooooh > and ahhh", and I thought of you and your gigantor-a.s TV!- Hide quoted text - Just make sure you locate the RESET SWITCH if you plan on purchasing it. V > On Jan 23, 3:59 pm, "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudg...@earthlink.net> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > negative-nothing- no picture-nada, and a o sign which NOW I KNOW means o for > ON. This has been confusing me....when a switch has O and I, isn't O off? And I on? Like 1 and 0? bits? Am I just nuts? Zorra > What the hell man? Is it some kind of reset thing? Why the hell do > you need this? There is a Power switch so......wtf? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > and went all "ooooh and ahhh", and I thought of you and your > gigantor-a.s TV! > > On Jan 23, 3:59 pm, "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudg...@earthlink.net> > > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > This has been confusing me....when a switch has O and I, isn't O off? And I on? > Like 1 and 0? bits? Am I just nuts? No, Z. You are not nuts. You are right. It is O for off and dash for on. I just went and looked..... Could I get anything else wrong??? Vickie > Why couldn't someone notice this switch? after all that, "what? switch. SignatureSD:) "Intellectuals solve problems; geniuses prevent them.(A.E.)" My disclaimer: I can say, but can't make you see...(S.D.) On Jan 23, 4:11 pm, "S.D." <" \"S.D.\" <nospam"@nospamSD.com>> wrote: > > Why couldn't someone notice this switch? > > after all that, "what? switch. > -- A teeny tiny stupid switch on the side of our GIANT HDTV. V > On Jan 23, 4:11 pm, "S.D." <" \"S.D.\" <nospam"@nospamSD.com>> wrote: >>> Why couldn't someone notice this switch? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > A teeny tiny stupid switch on the side of our GIANT HDTV. > V HDTV???? What is HDTV???? Some Nieman Marcus thing? > HDTV???? What is HDTV???? thought you were a EE or sorts? High Defination TV. Don't tell me youz so far out in the boonies:) and been there for so long, you've lost touch with the rest of the world around youz.... :) SignatureSD:) "Intellectuals solve problems; geniuses prevent them.(A.E.)" My disclaimer: I can say, but can't make you see...(S.D.) >> HDTV???? What is HDTV????????????? > > thought you were a EE or sorts? High Defination TV. Don't tell me youz > so far out in the boonies:) and been there for so long, you've lost > touch with the rest of the world around youz.... :) I ain't keepin up with any of that newage crapola, ya hear? Besides which, there is precious little "content" (and I use that word very loosely) on TV that really needs HD. I'm sure the masses don't care if they see Springer on HD or LD - it's all the same bullshit. > I'm sure the masses don't care if they see > Springer on HD or LD - it's all the same bullshit. Ah contraire my friend, JS guests are the spitting images of those with their noses pressed up against the expensive HDTV while their bills go unpaid, seeking effect. SignatureSD:) "Intellectuals solve problems; geniuses prevent them.(A.E.)" My disclaimer: I can say, but can't make you see...(S.D.) >I just paid a guy $125.00 to flip a switch. > Flip a goddamn, good for nothing, shitty, craptard, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Why couldn't the guy say, "Hey - no charge."? > I am soooooooo pissed. ------------ Consider it your gift to the American economy. ------------- Reminds me of the time I took my car to the mechanic 'cuz the power windows stopped working. "Did you press the window-lock button," he asked? "The what?" Reminds me of the time I took apart a shower valve thing without shutting off the water supply. We bailed water for an hour until the city water people arrived. Reminds me of the time I tried to fix my stove without cutting power supply. Burned out wiring -- $150.00 .... >> I just paid a guy $125.00 to flip a switch. >> Flip a goddamn, good for nothing, shitty, craptard, [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > cutting power supply. Burned out wiring -- $150.00 > .... Oooh, I forgot our most recent electrical snowballing expense of a few months ago! We put some new cupboards and a benchtop in an area adjacent to our kitchen and my husband moved a power point up the wall to clear the new cupboard. He blew a fuse when testing it but couldn't get it going again and only that one power point was affected, it was on a circuit all of its own. We called the electrician who found one mislabelled and unchecked fuse <thinks dark thoughts at husband> was burnt out. He fixed that for under $70 so that was all well and good, if embarrassing. However, it seemed a good opportunity to get the 50 year old fuse box replaced and put safety circuit breakers on the light fitting circuits as well rather than only on the heavy duty power points so we proceeded with that work. Several hundred dollars later we feel safer but distinctly poorer. Added to that, my husband was between contracts at the time and so money was tight. >> Reminds me of the time I tried to fix my stove without >> cutting power supply. Burned out wiring -- $150.00 > Oooh, I forgot our most recent electrical snowballing expense > of a few months ago! ... He blew a fuse when testing it but > couldn't get it going again... the electrician who found one > mislabelled and unchecked fuse... fixed that for under $70 However, it > seemed a good opportunity to get the 50 year old > fuse box replaced and put safety circuit breakers... <snip> -------------------- That could well save you from a burned-downed house down the road. Money wisely-spent, IMHO. ... As opposed to spending a ton of money to fix a 15 year old AC system that we ended up replacing, anyway. >>> Reminds me of the time I tried to fix my stove without >>> cutting power supply. Burned out wiring -- $150.00 [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > That could well save you from a burned-downed house > down the road. Money wisely-spent, IMHO. Yes, it more the timing of it than anything else that was annoying and the stupid way it came about in the first place. > ... As opposed to spending a ton of money to fix a 15 year > old AC system that we ended up replacing, anyway. It's always hard to decide what to do with those expensive pieces of equipment, i.e. to risk throwing good money after bad or a major but essentially unnecessary expense. I've tossed a few things that were out of warranty such as a broken microwave oven rather than pay a callout or inspection fee for someone to give me the bad news that it wasn't worth fixing but I've also wasted my money to get that confirmation a time or two. That's been on washing machines and fridges, mostly. >It's always hard to decide what to do with those expensive pieces of >equipment, i.e. to risk throwing good money after bad or a major but [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >fixing but I've also wasted my money to get that confirmation a time or two. >That's been on washing machines and fridges, mostly. I'm struggling with this right now. Do I pay to have a 4.5 year old washing machine fixed, or just buy a new one? It still works, just makes a terrible racket as it's stopping spinning. (No, it's not off balance...it's the braking mechanism). I've researched and am pretty sure I know what parts to buy, but I'm just not brave enough to dismantle my washer. So for now we just listen to it making a racket every time we do a load! SignatureLauri in WA >> It's always hard to decide what to do with those expensive pieces of >> equipment, i.e. to risk throwing good money after bad or a major but [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > dismantle my washer. So for now we just listen to it making a racket > every time we do a load! Heheheh I dismantled a brand new washing machine once. I foolishly washed an old sheepskin rug in it and the damn thing disintegrated and clogged the works and pipes. I dismantled the machine, cleaned it all out, put it back together and crossed my fingers that I wouldn't have to mention my utter stupidity to my husband. Phew...it worked fine and I did confess but it's much easier to do that when you've already fixed the problem! Depending on how complicated it is, I reckon you probably can't do too much damage. I wouldn't mess with any electronic controls, myself, though. We've fixed our dishwasher a couple of times by buying the parts and fitting them ourselves but they weren't major parts of the mechanism. On the other hand, I think I've killed three washing machines from overwork, to date, and have paid someone to tell me death was imminent without hope of remission. > Do I pay to have a 4.5 year old washing machine fixed, or just buy a > new one? It still works, just makes a terrible racket[.] Our dishwasher made a horrific, undiagnosed noise all the time. I ordered the repair manual from the manufacturer, and it had clear instructions on taking it apart complete with excellent pictures. Nancy & I took it apart. I would read the instruction, point at the thing I was about to unscrew, and see if she agreed that I had correctly understood the instructions. If she did, we went ahead; otherwise, we discussed it until we agreed what was meant. I had some empty egg cartons to put the screws and such in, and I numbered the bins as I put things in (so as to be sure I got them in the right order when we were putting it back together). ANYWAY, we took about 47 screws out, and the lower washer arm, and the filter, and a couple housings, and got down to the built-in garbage disposal -- where I found a small piece of one of those plastic tabs that holds bread bags closed. It was stuck in the garbage disposal, and when the cutter came around it would go "click". The cutter spins at a few hundred/thousand RPM, thus the horrid racket. We reassembled the dishwasher, following the "point at the picture and the part and reach agreement that this goes there" method, and it has worked fine since. Total time required was about half an hour. If you decide to fix it, get a repair manual, ensure you have someone to do sanity checks before you follow a step that may not be as plain as you think, and be sure to turn off the power and the water first. If you're not good with tools, or you're not sure you can get the power turned off, probably best not to fool with it. Electricity kills people, instantly and with no advance warning. Don't do anything that involves monkeying with the electricity unless you know exactly what you are doing. If you decide not to do it yourself, you might want to consult an article that ran a year or so ago in "Consumer Reports", about getting things fixed vs replacing them. They had some sort of a decision-making chart with questions about how old it was, what kind of thing it is, how much it costs to replace, and other such considerations. Darren Provine ! kilroy@elvis.rowan.edu ! http://www.rowan.edu/~kilroy "And all this science, I don't understand. It's just my job five days a week." -- Elton John and Bernie Taupin, "Rocket Man" (William Shatner's amazing performance is on YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvQwXOCKNLY> Must be seen to be believed. Really.) >> Do I pay to have a 4.5 year old washing machine fixed, or just buy a >> new one? It still works, just makes a terrible racket[.] <snip good advice about fixing stuff and screws and egg cartons> >If you decide not to do it yourself, you might want to consult an >article that ran a year or so ago in "Consumer Reports", about getting >things fixed vs replacing them. They had some sort of a decision-making >chart with questions about how old it was, what kind of thing it is, >how much it costs to replace, and other such considerations. Thanks, Darren! I still may tackle it because it bothers me to just dump something in the landfill without at least attempting to fix it. I fixed my lawnmower last summer (which you may know because I boast endlessly about it), so it's not like I *can't*....I just fear getting the thing torn apart and then realizing I don' t have the fancy $200 wrench needed to get it back together, or that the part in question weighs 70 lbs, or something like that. SignatureLauri in WA > I just fear getting the thing torn apart and then realizing I don't > have the fancy $200 wrench needed to get it back together, or > that the part in question weighs 70 lbs, or something like that. Sometimes, you know you can do the project, and will one day, but just aren't in any hurry, 'cuz you remember dropping a 4'x8' piece of T1-11 on your big toe from the last time. :-/ >> I just fear getting the thing torn apart and then realizing I don't >> have the fancy $200 wrench needed to get it back together, or [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >but just aren't in any hurry, 'cuz you remember dropping a 4'x8' >piece of T1-11 on your big toe from the last time. :-/ LOL, well, that doesn't sound fun! Once I bought the sockets and got into the lawnmower project, it was kind of fun. I actually felt like a bit of a stud (if a girl can feel like a stud!) when I was all dirty and replacing sparkplugs and stuff. So I'd probably feel OK once I got into fixing the washer, too. Maybe I just need to think about it a little longer. SignatureLauri in WA |
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