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How to deal after a loved one dies

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Tumbleweed - 24 Mar 2008 17:57 GMT
I saved this topic until after the holiday, but my GF passed on Friday
nite. She's been my life for the last 2+ years, and was the best thing to
have happened to me in a very long time.
   She had gone into the hospital in the 12th for a fairly simple hernia
operation, and never came out. Things were botched, complications set in,
and the bottom line is that she was brain dead by Thursday nite. Friday
evening we disconnected her from life support.
   To say it was rough watching her pass is an understatement. I was the
only real dad her kids knew, and the only grandfather her grandchildren ever
really had either. Everyone who even knew her adored her and her sunny
personality, and quick wit. We had been joined at the hip from the day we
met, seldom ever doing anything without the other. I already miss her
terribly, and can barely make a moment without breaking down.
   Obviously you all know the thoughts and emotions that go along with
this, but it doesn't make it any easier. I also have a mess to clean up,
getting her things packed up and put away, sorting through everything with
her children, and making preparations for her funeral. I will likely stop by
the funeral home and see her today, and try not to break down, as I have to
express to the directors how many people will likely be coming from around
the country. Friends and relatives of hers and mine are all coming, and as
you all know, this wasn't an expected death, so things are happening pretty
quick (Rog, where are ya when I need ya?), and I have a mess of paperwork to
go through with her children as well. You have to love bureaucracy.

   -- John
YooperBoyka - 24 Mar 2008 18:14 GMT
>    I saved this topic until after the holiday, but my GF passed on Friday
> nite. She's been my life for the last 2+ years, and was the best thing to
> have happened to me in a very long time.

Ah sh.t John,...I'm so sorry.
Prayers for you and yours here.
Tumbleweed - 24 Mar 2008 18:35 GMT
>>    I saved this topic until after the holiday, but my GF passed on Friday
>> nite. She's been my life for the last 2+ years, and was the best thing to
>> have happened to me in a very long time.
>
> Ah sh.t John,...I'm so sorry.
> Prayers for you and yours here.

   Thanks, CJ. I knew you would appreciate my situation.

   She had some health issues that precluded our being able to get married.
She didn't want to saddle me with that burden, but she always said she
considered us married regardless. It's sad that others may not share her
feelings on it.

   I'm still sorting papers, notes, clothes, knick knacks, and other
things. It will hurt to let them go, but I feel it is appropriate that
certain things go with her children, and I will certainly hold on to some
things for myself. She was my life for the last 2+ years, and she had my
heart. I can't express how painful it is, but I'm sure you understand.
Vickie - 24 Mar 2008 18:22 GMT
>     I saved this topic until after the holiday, but my GF passed on Friday
> nite. She's been my life for the last 2+ years, and was the best thing to
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> quick (Rog, where are ya when I need ya?), and I have a mess of paperwork to
> go through with her children as well. You have to love bureaucracy.

Sorry for your loss.

It always happens that one person has to put their grief on hold to
get things done.  Hopefully you have some responsible people you can
get help from for the minor things that need to be accomplished.
Although some would rather deal with those things to keep their
emotions under control.

When you need to let go and cry it out for a bit, take the time for
it.  It is going to happen no matter what, part of the healing.

If you are religious it can help to remember you will see her again
someday.  That helps me when I am in the thick of it.

Best,
Vickie
Tumbleweed - 24 Mar 2008 18:37 GMT
On Mar 24, 8:57 am, "Tumbleweed" <the.tumblew...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I saved this topic until after the holiday, but my GF passed on Friday
> nite. She's been my life for the last 2+ years, and was the best thing to
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> to
> go through with her children as well. You have to love bureaucracy.

Sorry for your loss.

It always happens that one person has to put their grief on hold to
get things done.  Hopefully you have some responsible people you can
get help from for the minor things that need to be accomplished.
Although some would rather deal with those things to keep their
emotions under control.

When you need to let go and cry it out for a bit, take the time for
it.  It is going to happen no matter what, part of the healing.

If you are religious it can help to remember you will see her again
someday.  That helps me when I am in the thick of it.

Best,
Vickie

   Not very religious, but the priest and I administered last rites before
we disconnected her. I think her son took a small offense at that, but it
wasn't his call to make. As a catholic I'd have been derelict not to have
done so, and I think he didn't know his mom as well as he thought he did.
She was very precious to me.
Tracey - 24 Mar 2008 19:09 GMT
>     Not very religious, but the priest and I administered last rites before
> we disconnected her. I think her son took a small offense at that, but it
> wasn't his call to make. As a catholic I'd have been derelict not to have
> done so, and I think he didn't know his mom as well as he thought he did.
> She was very precious to me.

So sorry for your loss. It amazes me at the offenses that people take at
times like that or the weirdness that people try to inflict on the grievers.

Reminds me of the matriarch of a large family where I grew up. Their   
religion (an offshoot of the Amish) forbade doctors but many of the
younger generation didn't follow their parents' beliefs anymore or
did some but not others. Anyway, 'the mother' of one of the families
was very old (in her mid to late 90's) and everyone knew it. In the
last week or so of her life, a doctor came out to see her and the
rest of the 'old line' of their church were appalled. Someone told
her that they couldn't believe she allowed a doctor to treat her.
She told them 'It made my children feel better.'

I'll be thinking of you.

Tracey
shinypenny - 24 Mar 2008 18:25 GMT
>     I saved this topic until after the holiday, but my GF passed on Friday
> nite. She's been my life for the last 2+ years, and was the best thing to
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>
>     -- John

What a tragedy. My heart goes out to you.

jen
Tumbleweed - 24 Mar 2008 18:38 GMT
On Mar 24, 12:57 pm, "Tumbleweed" <the.tumblew...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I saved this topic until after the holiday, but my GF passed on Friday
> nite. She's been my life for the last 2+ years, and was the best thing to
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>
> -- John

What a tragedy. My heart goes out to you.

jen

   Thank you, Jen
drlith - 24 Mar 2008 18:35 GMT
My deepest sympathies for your loss, John. Rather than wax all eloquent,
I'll just say, that sucks. What needs to be done will get done,
according to everyone's capacities to get things done, and that's all
you can do. Perhaps somewhat unfortunately, getting through this is
going to be a marathon, and not a sprint.
Tumbleweed - 24 Mar 2008 23:28 GMT
> My deepest sympathies for your loss, John. Rather than wax all eloquent,
> I'll just say, that sucks. What needs to be done will get done, according
> to everyone's capacities to get things done, and that's all you can do.
> Perhaps somewhat unfortunately, getting through this is going to be a
> marathon, and not a sprint.

   Thank you. I am just trying to get the kids through it. I am pretty much
a father to them as well. Their own father is close by, but he has nothing
to do with them, for the most part, but he is their father. It's me they
come to with their problems, and that's okay.
Stephanie - 24 Mar 2008 18:42 GMT
>    I saved this topic until after the holiday, but my GF passed on
> Friday nite. She's been my life for the last 2+ years, and was the
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>
>    -- John

I am very sorry for your loss. There are simply no words...
Doug Anderson - 24 Mar 2008 18:57 GMT
>     I saved this topic until after the holiday, but my GF passed on Friday
> nite. She's been my life for the last 2+ years, and was the best thing to
> have happened to me in a very long time.

I'm very, very sorry.  I can't imagine how to deal with this.  

I guess I hope to be lucky enough _not_ to have to deal with it.

Let friends help.  Be with friends when that seems good, and be alone
when that seems like what you need.
Tumbleweed - 24 Mar 2008 23:34 GMT
>>     I saved this topic until after the holiday, but my GF passed on
>> Friday
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Let friends help.  Be with friends when that seems good, and be alone
> when that seems like what you need.

   Thank you. I will do that.
zorra - 24 Mar 2008 19:11 GMT
My mom's friend just died in a similar way.  It's very hard when they go in
seeming healthy and don't come out.  I'm so very sorry for your loss.

Zorra
ML. - 24 Mar 2008 21:59 GMT
I'm sorry, John.
If i can be of any support, you know my number.

>    I saved this topic until after the holiday, but my GF passed on Friday
>nite. She's been my life for the last 2+ years, and was the best thing to
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
>    -- John
Tumbleweed - 24 Mar 2008 23:54 GMT
Actually, ML, I lost your number when a former roommate threw a temper
tantrum and started destroying things....my phone was one of them, along
with my laptop, dishes ..... I had him summarily removed via police assist.

> I'm sorry, John.
> If i can be of any support, you know my number.
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>>
>>    -- John
Bill in Co - 24 Mar 2008 22:07 GMT
Sorry to hear that, John.    That is really unfortunate.    :-(
And I'm still a bit surprised that a hernia operation would actually go this
way, especially in today's world.     :-(

>    I saved this topic until after the holiday, but my GF passed on Friday
> nite. She's been my life for the last 2+ years, and was the best thing to
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>
>    -- John
saulgoode - 24 Mar 2008 22:11 GMT
>     I saved this topic until after the holiday, but my GF passed on Friday
> nite. She's been my life for the last 2+ years, and was the best thing to
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
>     -- John

Sorry man. This sucks in so many ways, I'm at an absolute blank for
words... I'll borrow Yoop's and add prayers for you and yours, too.

- Saul
Tumbleweed - 24 Mar 2008 23:35 GMT
On Mar 24, 11:57 am, "Tumbleweed" <the.tumblew...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I saved this topic until after the holiday, but my GF passed on Friday
> nite. She's been my life for the last 2+ years, and was the best thing to
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>
> -- John

Sorry man. This sucks in so many ways, I'm at an absolute blank for
words... I'll borrow Yoop's and add prayers for you and yours, too.

- Saul

       Thank you
Tai - 24 Mar 2008 22:16 GMT
>    I saved this topic until after the holiday, but my GF passed on
> Friday nite. She's been my life for the last 2+ years, and was the
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>    support. To say it was rough watching her pass is an
> understatement.

I'm very sorry, John. That's just so unfair.

I'd like to recommend this book to you, "Death and Dying", which I read when
my father was in his final illness and which was kindly suggested to me a
couple of days ago by someone who thought it might help me now.

http://www.growthhouse.org/books/kubler1.htm

Like your girlfriend my husband's father went into hospital late last week
for a fairly simple operation, although it was problematic because he is
elderly and his heart is failing. He contracted septicaemia from a staph
infection and while they were able to cure that it was not before his
kidneys were irretrievably damaged. Right now he has been moved to a hospice
and made comfortable but there is only palliative care left for him.

It's very different to your situation as the partner, of course, but I
wanted to tell you that I am having trouble dealing with my anger over why
my FIL was put through the operation in the first place and the sense that
precious time of *his* has been stolen from him when he had so little left
anyway, and to a lesser extent stolen from us, even though we have lived in
different countries for many years and see each other only a few times each
year.

I think you will be having those sorts of thoughts in a much more intense
form with your grief and I wish for you strength and peace as you work
through your loss.
Tumbleweed - 24 Mar 2008 23:52 GMT
>>    I saved this topic until after the holiday, but my GF passed on
>> Friday nite. She's been my life for the last 2+ years, and was the
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
> form with your grief and I wish for you strength and peace as you work
> through your loss.

   Thank you. I can truly understand your anger.
Joy - 24 Mar 2008 23:08 GMT
>    I saved this topic until after the holiday, but my GF passed on Friday
> nite. She's been my life for the last 2+ years, and was the best thing to
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> mess of paperwork to go through with her children as well. You have to
> love bureaucracy.

I'm terribly sorry to hear of your loss.  I'll be thinking about you and
yours.
Tumbleweed - 24 Mar 2008 23:54 GMT
>>    I saved this topic until after the holiday, but my GF passed on Friday
>> nite. She's been my life for the last 2+ years, and was the best thing to
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> I'm terribly sorry to hear of your loss.  I'll be thinking about you and
> yours.

Thank you
news - 25 Mar 2008 03:37 GMT
>>    I saved this topic until after the holiday, but my GF passed on Friday
>> nite. She's been my life for the last 2+ years, and was the best thing to
>> have happened to me in a very long time.
>>    To say it was rough watching her pass is an understatement. I was the
>> only real dad her kids knew, and the only grandfather her grandchildren
>> ever really had either.

Just two years.
You packed a lot into just two years, kids, grandkids.
All Summer in a Day.
Tumbleweed - 25 Mar 2008 06:23 GMT
>>>    I saved this topic until after the holiday, but my GF passed on
>>> Friday nite. She's been my life for the last 2+ years, and was the best
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> You packed a lot into just two years, kids, grandkids.
> All Summer in a Day.

   I'm fast, but I'm not easy.

   Yes, we did. We lived.
Barb D. - 24 Mar 2008 23:21 GMT
>    I saved this topic until after the holiday, but my GF passed on Friday
>nite. She's been my life for the last 2+ years, and was the best thing to
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>quick (Rog, where are ya when I need ya?), and I have a mess of paperwork to
>go through with her children as well. You have to love bureaucracy.

I'm so sorry, John.  I hope you're able to maintain a strong presence
in her kids' and grandkids' lives.  I still have such a relationship
with my stepmother 5 years after my dad's death.

Barb
Tumbleweed - 24 Mar 2008 23:56 GMT
>>    I saved this topic until after the holiday, but my GF passed on Friday
>>nite. She's been my life for the last 2+ years, and was the best thing to
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
>
> Barb

   The kids say they aren't going to run away, but time will tell.
Typically families will only maintain contact for a couple of months or so.
If they do continue to keep the relationship, I will be pleasantly surprised
and blessed.
Rog' - 25 Mar 2008 00:43 GMT
>    I saved this topic until after the holiday, but my GF passed
> on Friday nite. She's been my life for the last 2+ years, and was
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> dead by Thursday nite. Friday evening we disconnected her
> from life support.

Damn.  All I can say is:
I'm sorry for you loss, John.  You have my utmost condolences.
You need to let the grief flow, as it will, for however long it takes.
She is at peace now, but the loved-ones who she left behind will
have to face their heartache and carry on.  Given the other grief
that you've had to face in your life, for this to happen is so unfair.
It's as if you came into her life and became imbedded with her
family to help them with this task.  Maybe the message here is
that, in the bigger picture of lives, none of that of that other stuff
really matters.   ... Take care, and hang in there....
= Roger=
Tumbleweed - 25 Mar 2008 06:21 GMT
>>    I saved this topic until after the holiday, but my GF passed
>> on Friday nite. She's been my life for the last 2+ years, and was
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> really matters.   ... Take care, and hang in there....
> = Roger=

   Thanks, Rog. Her daughters and in-laws all said I gave her two years she
didn't have.
She was my sickly child when I met her, and within a month I had her active
and getting healthy.
For a highly respected hospital to screw up so badly, it's unconscionable.
She was in excellent health,
save her one health issue, and I had that under control and her numbers were
excellent.
   It was the doctor deviating from standard procedure that caused this,
and they further complicated it by failing, for seven hours, to
let any of us know her condition had changed. There are reasons she insisted
I make decisions regarding her health care.
She knew I'd be looking over their shoulder, keeping them under close
observation until she was ready to come home.
   My only regret is that I wasn't already there waiting for her to be
released. I had talked to her at 10 AM that morning, and she was to be
released
at noon, after she had eaten. Knowing I'd done this twice before and they
changed her release time, I held off until she called to let me know for
certain. Well, noon came and went, and I figured they changed the time
again, so I waited until 2:30 PM to call and see what the plan was. This
time the nurse answered the phone and said "Debra can't come to the phone
right now". That was all that was said ...maybe she was in the restroom, I
don't know. Next call I got was close to midnite. Her son called to tell me
she was comatose and in ICU. No one had contacted her kids until 8 PM, and
since I was to be the first and primary contact for these things, they
assumed I had already been called. Her son got concerned when I didn't show
up, so he called to see where I was ..... I was getting ready for bed (I
thought). Her funeral will be Saturday
   THAT was the beginning of the longest 5 days of my life. I can't let
this go unchallenged. I haven't got it to take care of her funeral expenses,
and neither do her children (her youngest had set up a memorial fund for her
at the bank).
   In the words of her primary care physician at the hospital, "This should
not have happened". If the children don't take up the challenge I will. I
will make some calls tomorrow and start setting the pace.
GGGNH - 25 Mar 2008 22:14 GMT
>     I saved this topic until after the holiday, but my GF passed on Friday
> nite. She's been my life for the last 2+ years, and was the best thing to
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
>     -- John

There is little I can say John.  I'll include you and her family in my
prayers and thoughts.  It has to be rough for you.  Seeing what I saw in
your followup posts, you had a strong relationship going and she was a
great person.  That always makes it rough.  But, you know you'll make it
through and I know you'll offer her family your support, despite what
you are going through.

GGG
 
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