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Lauri - 09 Jul 2008 22:41 GMT So how did your evaluation go? Well, I hope!
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Vickie - 09 Jul 2008 23:46 GMT > So how did your evaluation go? Well, I hope! I was so nervous. Filled out my paperwork real fast and sat near the window, contemplating my escape.
They took x-rays and led me to a station. The dental asst. told me to sit and wait, but I couldn't get in the chair just yet. When the doc came I blurted out my situation, moved to the chair, and didn't look at him. He ended up being real nice. Said I could keep the tooth with a root canal and crown. Gave me scrip for penicillin and told me to take the 800 mgs of motrin. He did ask if I wanted to be sedated and I said no. I just am not comfortable with the idea. He told me to take the Xanax before my appt on Fri. There was the option mentioned of getting an extraction, but I really didn't know what to do. I have never had a tooth extracted before, so I agreed to the root canal.
He told me he had had a patient before who ran out during many visits and it wasn't a problem. He told me I did good. :-) I felt like a jackass, but smiled and said next time should be better.
When I went to get my next appt., well, that is when some tears came, not sobbing or anything, just kind of felt a couple run down, you know? I just needed the release, I guess. I don't know why things have to be so damn hard for me. Makes me angry.
So, Friday.
Vickie
Bill in Co - 10 Jul 2008 00:28 GMT >> So how did your evaluation go? Well, I hope! > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > to > the root canal. I can't think of ANY reason why someone would want a tooth extraction over a root canal! Well, ok, there is one: I've heard that some on welfare or medicaid(??) might be able to get a tooth extraction "covered", but not a crown and root canal. Now if that isn't the stupidest thing, I don't know what is. (No, I guess it just comes down to what is cheapest, which is a piss poor "health care" management system for the impoverished).
> He told me he had had a patient before who ran out during many visits and > it > wasn't a problem. He told me I did good. :-) I felt like a jackass, but > smiled and said next time should be better. There ya go!
> When I went to get my next appt., well, that is when some tears came, not > sobbing or anything, just kind of felt a couple run down, you know? I [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Vickie Wishing you the best. And STOP thinking about it (worrying about it) ahead of time. "Worry is like a rocking chair; you rock and you rock and you go nowhere!"
Vickie - 10 Jul 2008 06:20 GMT >>> So how did your evaluation go? Well, I hope! >> [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > know what is. (No, I guess it just comes down to what is cheapest, which > is a piss poor "health care" management system for the impoverished). Perhaps the procedure doesn't take as long? Not sure.
>> He told me he had had a patient before who ran out during many visits and >> it [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Wishing you the best. Thanks Bill.
> And STOP thinking about it (worrying about it) ahead of time. > "Worry is like a rocking chair; you rock and you rock and you go nowhere!" Going to try to put it out of my mind. It has been a pretty painful week. I made the mistake of passing on the pain meds. I thought he might think I was some druggie. I should have taken it. Hopefully the antibiotics will work quickly and reduce the pain so the ibuprofin will be enough. Not looking like I will get much sleep tonight though. :-(
Vickie
Bill in Co - 10 Jul 2008 06:32 GMT >>>> So how did your evaluation go? Well, I hope! >>> [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Perhaps the procedure doesn't take as long? Not sure. And there is no expensive crown, either. After all, you're "just" removing the tooth.
>>> He told me he had had a patient before who ran out during many visits >>> and [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > Vickie I hope you can make it ok till Friday. I think that's the worst part. (Not that going to the dentist is high on my pleasure list, mind you. :-) But the peace of mind afterwards more than makes up for it, because the potential of losing teeth (or periodontal gum disease, etc), SUCKS.
And I always ask him what he is doing, anyways. (I tend to be inquistive that way, and it helps. Knowledge is power, and it's an educational experience, or can be, if you want).
Vickie - 10 Jul 2008 08:21 GMT >>>>> So how did your evaluation go? Well, I hope! >>>> [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > And there is no expensive crown, either. After all, you're "just" > removing the tooth. True. But when I asked what do you do after an extraction, like you just have a hole there, he mentioned implants. Now if root canal didn't scare me enough, implant sure as heck does. There is all sorts of stuff that goes into implants, as I was told by a friend. No thanks.
>>>> He told me he had had a patient before who ran out during many visits >>>> and [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > I hope you can make it ok till Friday. Me too.
> I think that's the worst part. > (Not that going to the dentist is high on my pleasure list, mind you. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > that way, and it helps. Knowledge is power, and it's an educational > experience, or can be, if you want). I might suggest that he tells me when a certain part is done, like, okay two out of four roots are gone, or something, that may help.
Vickie
Bill in Co - 10 Jul 2008 19:08 GMT >>>>>> So how did your evaluation go? Well, I hope! >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > True. But when I asked what do you do after an extraction, like you just > have a hole there, he mentioned implants. Yes, but I'm talking about the impoverished cases, where they don't get an implant! IOW, the tooth is extracted, and that's it! Pretty piss poor, but I bet it's the cheapest way, and I bet quite a few get it done, unfortunately (talking about the impoverished cases here)
> Now if root canal didn't scare me enough, implant sure as heck does. > There is all sorts of stuff that goes into implants, as I was told by a > friend. > No thanks. Right.
>>>>> He told me he had had a patient before who ran out during many visits >>>>> and it wasn't a problem. He told me I did good. :-) I felt like a [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > > Vickie Lauri - 10 Jul 2008 02:06 GMT >When I went to get my next appt., well, that is when some tears came, not >sobbing or anything, just kind of felt a couple run down, you know? I just >needed the release, I guess. I don't know why things have to be so damn >hard for me. Makes me angry. Hey, my previous dentist used to congratulate me when I *didn't* cry in the chair. I mean, almost every time I would start crying from the stress and the anticipation (and the actual work, of course).
This new guy is much better at getting me numb and after having had several pain-free experiences there, I've gone from horrible dread to simply kind of dreading it. Usually they have me so numb that half my face is dead till evening, but I don't care.
You've done the hardest part, which is to make yourself go. You can get through Friday. Take your Xanax and remember that you'll only be there an hour or so, then it'll all be over and you'll be pain free.
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Vickie - 10 Jul 2008 06:31 GMT >>When I went to get my next appt., well, that is when some tears came, not >>sobbing or anything, just kind of felt a couple run down, you know? I [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > in the chair. I mean, almost every time I would start crying from the > stress and the anticipation (and the actual work, of course). Wow. Amazing. I thought I was the only one who turned into a watering pot on such occassions. I mean, well, you know I don't wish the phobia/anxiety or stress on anyone, but hearing others have the same prob is comforting for me. Sad but true.
> This new guy is much better at getting me numb and after having had > several pain-free experiences there, I've gone from horrible dread to > simply kind of dreading it. Usually they have me so numb that half my > face is dead till evening, but I don't care. I won't care either. This doc said when an infection gets bad, you have trouble getting totally numb. So he was real specific about me taking my antibiotics.
> You've done the hardest part, which is to make yourself go. You can > get through Friday. Take your Xanax and remember that you'll only be > there an hour or so, then it'll all be over and you'll be pain free. Unfortunately he told me he can't use the "cool" machine. Said it would take too long. So, Fridays visit and then the crown visit after. But Lauri, pain free sounds so wonderful right now.
Vickie
Bill in Co - 10 Jul 2008 06:38 GMT >>> When I went to get my next appt., well, that is when some tears came, >>> not [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > trouble getting totally numb. So he was real specific about me taking my > antibiotics. You do realize that by waiting so long is probably why it got to this state?
Well, ok, let it be a lesson earned. So next time go in *at the FIRST sign of trouble*. And DON'T put it off! (If you do, you only compound the issue).
/end lecture, /off the pulpit :-)
Vickie - 10 Jul 2008 08:27 GMT >>>> When I went to get my next appt., well, that is when some tears came, >>>> not [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > You do realize that by waiting so long is probably why it got to this > state? He had a sign next to "the chair" that said, "Don't wait until it hurts." I pointed to it, and he said, "Yeah, well, you are far from the only one who has." Like I said, nice guy.
> Well, ok, let it be a lesson earned. So next time go in *at the FIRST > sign of trouble*. And DON'T put it off! (If you do, you only > compound the issue). > > /end lecture, > /off the pulpit :-) Yes sir. I will try to remember sir. Anything you say sir.
Vickie (hanging head... nope, can't do it... the blood rushes to my tooth and causes more pain, got to keep my head up)
Lauri - 10 Jul 2008 18:53 GMT >"Bill in Co" <surly_curmudgeon@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> You do realize that by waiting so long is probably why it got to this >> state? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >has." >Like I said, nice guy. And Bill is right about that--waiting only makes it worse. Us dental-phobes always hope that somehow it will just go away and quit hurting but of course it never does! The anti-biotics should really help clear things up before tomorrow, though, and it will be a huge relief to just have the pain GONE, even if you have to do the temporary crown thing.
After I had two teeth crumble off* , I decided to be more pro-active despite my fear and actually listened to the dentist and got the teeth crowned that he recommended. Lo and behold--I always thought that I just had teeth that were terribly hot and cold sensitive but guess what--it was my huge old fillings that were leaking and causing the problem. Once I got them crowned, all that sensitivity went away! So my dental fears were really self-perpetuating. The bonus is that the old metal fillings are gone, and I'm left with perfect-looking porcelain. Much prettier!
*Actually, it was only tiny pieces that broke off, but in your mouth it feels like a huge chunk of tooth is missing. It was very alarming to be chewing gum and all the sudden have a piece of grit in there that you realize is part of your TOOTH!
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Bill in Co - 10 Jul 2008 19:23 GMT >> "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudgeon@earthlink.net> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > dental-phobes always hope that somehow it will just go away and quit > hurting but of course it never does! Obviously! No offense, but how can anyone be so naive? (and here I thought I was naive)
> The anti-biotics should really > help clear things up before tomorrow, though, and it will be a huge > relief to just have the pain GONE, even if you have to do the > temporary crown thing. Yup.
> After I had two teeth crumble off* , I decided to be more pro-active > despite my fear and actually listened to the dentist and got the teeth > crowned that he recommended. Lo and behold--I always thought that I > just had teeth that were terribly hot and cold sensitive but guess > what--it was my huge old fillings that were leaking and causing the > problem. Exactly. The warning signs weren't there just for laughs.
> Once I got them crowned, all that sensitivity went away! So > my dental fears were really self-perpetuating. The bonus is that the [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > -- > Lauri in WA Well, in summary, if they can save the tooth, they'll try to keep it, but if the root has been infected they'll likely need to do a root canal first, before capping and crowning it.
Which at least still saves the tooth, but it is not quite as strong as a live healthy one. But it seems better than having a bunch of fillings!
(as I said, I like to interrogate the doctors (and most don't mind) - it's educational)
Vickie - 11 Jul 2008 02:06 GMT On Jul 10, 11:23 am, "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudg...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudg...@earthlink.net> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > No offense, but how can anyone be so naive? (and here I thought I was > naive) Hey sugar, there is nothing naive about it. Damn straight I know my teeth need work, but unless there is pain I can live with the non perfection.
But I tell ya, this pain sucks big cock. I am really going to do my best to keep on top of things.
Vickie
Bill in Co - 11 Jul 2008 02:21 GMT > On Jul 10, 11:23 am, "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudg...@earthlink.net> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > teeth need work, but unless there is pain I can live with the non > perfection. "non perfection", eh? :-)
Oh yeah??????? Then how about this....
Could you (generic) live with a potential tooth infection, which ends up killing its root? Or ... a potential tooth extraction? Or ... periodontal gum disease? Or ... implants and/or bridges? Or ... false teeth or dentures?
Bottom line: It most certainly IS naive. Q.E.D.
Next?
Vickie - 11 Jul 2008 02:33 GMT On Jul 10, 6:21 pm, "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudg...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > On Jul 10, 11:23 am, "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudg...@earthlink.net> > > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > "non perfection", eh? :-) What? Does my grammar suck? Am I making up words? Dude, I am on the heavy duty painkillers and finding it hard to think.
> Oh yeah??????? Then how about this.... > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Bottom line: It most certainly IS naive. > Q.E.D. I would rather call it, out of pain-out of mind, or wishful thinking.
> Next?- You're next-ing me? Man. Well, next I am going to go look at my tongue, it feels kind of fuzzy and big. :-p
Vickie
Bill in Co - 11 Jul 2008 03:01 GMT > On Jul 10, 6:21 pm, "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudg...@earthlink.net> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > What? Does my grammar suck? Am I making up words? > Dude, I am on the heavy duty painkillers and finding it hard to think. Sorry. :-(
>> Oh yeah??????? Then how about this.... >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > I would rather call it, out of pain-out of mind, or wishful thinking. Those are euphenisms.
>> Next? > > You're next-ing me? Man.
:-).
> Well, next I am going to go look at my tongue, it feels kind of fuzzy > and big. :-p > > Vickie I'm glad you're going in tomorrow. And not putting it off any longer. At least you're lucky enough that you'll be able to keep your tooth, and not need an extraction.
Vickie - 11 Jul 2008 01:56 GMT > >"Bill in Co" <surly_curmudg...@earthlink.net> wrote in message > >> You do realize that by waiting so long is probably why it got to this [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > to be chewing gum and all the sudden have a piece of grit in there > that you realize is part of your TOOTH! I so totally I know. It freaks ya way out. So I guess after tomorrow, I should get some of the other not so healthy ones done. But I ain't getting my one and only wisdom tooth pulled!
V
Bill in Co - 10 Jul 2008 19:09 GMT >>>>> When I went to get my next appt., well, that is when some tears came, >>>>> not [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > Yes sir. I will try to remember sir. Anything you say sir. There ya go! Now that's better, maam!
> Vickie (hanging head... nope, can't do it... the blood rushes to my tooth > and causes more pain, got to keep my head up) news - 10 Jul 2008 02:17 GMT >> So how did your evaluation go? Well, I hope! > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > comfortable with the idea. He told me to take the Xanax before my appt on > Fri. Bah bah bah bah, bah bah bah bah, I wanna be sedated! I like going to the dentist. It's an hour or so where I can just sit there and not have to do anything. No kids asking me for stuff, no work to do, just sit there and let my mind wander. So what if the dentist has his hands in my mouth!
Vickie - 10 Jul 2008 06:35 GMT >>> So how did your evaluation go? Well, I hope! >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > just sit there and let my mind wander. So what if the dentist has his > hands in my mouth! Sounds like heaven. NOT! V
Xorra - 10 Jul 2008 04:57 GMT > He told me he had had a patient before who ran out during many visits > and it wasn't a problem. He told me I did good. :-) I felt like a > jackass, but smiled and said next time should be better. It must be hard being a dentist. Everyone hates coming to you.
> When I went to get my next appt., well, that is when some tears came, > not sobbing or anything, just kind of felt a couple run down, you > know? I just needed the release, I guess. I don't know why things > have to be so damn hard for me. Makes me angry. I know how you feel there. It just seems like life should be fair, and it isn't. Why do some people have burdens that others don't? But then again, we often don't see each others burdens, so there is no telling what the next woman is dealing with.
I'm sure you will do great again on Friday. You may get scared, but you always seem to pull through it somehow.
Xorra
Bill in Co - 10 Jul 2008 05:07 GMT >> He told me he had had a patient before who ran out during many visits >> and it wasn't a problem. He told me I did good. :-) I felt like a [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Xorra Just try not to think about it ahead of time. Worry is pointless (at least I read that somewhere - probably on a poster at the train depot)
Vickie - 10 Jul 2008 06:56 GMT >> He told me he had had a patient before who ran out during many visits >> and it wasn't a problem. He told me I did good. :-) I felt like a [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > again, we often don't see each others burdens, so there is no telling what > the next woman is dealing with. Right. Just when you are in it, it seems so unbearably unfair.
> I'm sure you will do great again on Friday. You may get scared, but you > always seem to pull through it somehow. Thanks for the vote of confidence. :-)
Vickie
Stephanie - 10 Jul 2008 12:30 GMT >> So how did your evaluation go? Well, I hope! > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > know? I just needed the release, I guess. I don't know why things > have to be so damn hard for me. Makes me angry. I cry after every appointment. The tension has to go somewhere.I walk the long way back to the desk and if I am still teary when I get there, I just shrug.
> So, Friday. > > Vickie Vickie - 10 Jul 2008 13:35 GMT >>> So how did your evaluation go? Well, I hope! >> [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > long way back to the desk and if I am still teary when I get there, I just > shrug. Cool. I mean, not cool, but you know. If it happens, it happens then.
You think men wait until they get in their car and cry it out?
Vickie
Stephanie - 10 Jul 2008 15:07 GMT >>>> So how did your evaluation go? Well, I hope! >>> [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > Vickie My husband has no anxiety that I know of around docs and dentists. So I dont think he has that tension to release.
It actually does not bother me anymore to have this happen. It may seem weird to not care if people think I am a dork. But ... what impact does it make in my life if the receptionist at the denist office thinks it?
Bill in Co - 10 Jul 2008 19:17 GMT >>>>> So how did your evaluation go? Well, I hope! >>>> [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > dont > think he has that tension to release. Exactly. It's not much on the radar. (Other things might be, but not that one).
> It actually does not bother me anymore to have this happen. It may seem > weird to not care if people think I am a dork. But ... what impact does it > make in my life if the receptionist at the denist office thinks it? Honestly, I don't understand why some of you make such a big deal about this (the dentist thing). Sure it's not pleasureable, but it's nothing like (for example) going through chemotherapy and radiation treatments for cancer, is it? (rhetorical) Keep things in perspective.
(did I write that? - damn, it always comes back to bite me, in the end :-)
Stephanie - 10 Jul 2008 19:23 GMT >>>>>> So how did your evaluation go? Well, I hope! >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > radiation treatments for cancer, is it? (rhetorical) Keep things > in perspective. I can jump out of an airplane. Denstists scare me. Shoot me!
Which is my way of saying fear is not necessarily something you can rationally explain. I don't have any specific anxiety or panic issue, in general. Usually when I am freaking out there is a reasonable and identifiable reason. But for whatever reason, I get a belly ache whenever I make the appointments and then for the day leading up to it.
> (did I write that? - damn, it always comes back to bite me, in the > end :-) Lauri - 10 Jul 2008 19:42 GMT >I can jump out of an airplane. Denstists scare me. Shoot me! > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >identifiable reason. But for whatever reason, I get a belly ache whenever I >make the appointments and then for the day leading up to it. Dentists scare me for a very good reason: I've had many painful experiences there. We didn't go frequently when we were kids; back in the day, I don't think that regular checkups and cleanings were stressed like they are today. Anyway, my trips consisted of getting big awful fillings and never being completely numb, so you never knew when the jabbing, searing pain would come. Combine that with lying in such a vulnerable position and being "trapped"....it only takes 1 or 2 such experiences to make someone very afraid.
When my oldest son, J, was about 4 or so, I took him to a pediatric dentist. They needed to do a filling and he was a very busy, active little guy, so they gave me a mild sedative to give him before the appointment. Unfortunately, it made him a little MORE active. After a few minutes of trying to get him to settle down, the assistant came out to tell me they were having trouble, and then she said casually, "Do you mind if we restrain him?" I said, "You mean, tie him down???" They said yes. I said, "No! Go bring him to me immediately!" and we left.
My god. Talk about 3rd world tactics! I ended up taking him to my own dentist, who treated him firmly and respectfully as a little man, let him wear the headphones and play with the water squirter and he was FINE.
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Bill in Co - 10 Jul 2008 19:47 GMT >> I can jump out of an airplane. Denstists scare me. Shoot me! >> [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > -- > Lauri in WA You know, I can remember way back when, when all they could do was tie a string around your tooth with the other end tied to a door (which they slammed shut, and that extracted the tooth).
And the Titantic going down.
Vickie - 11 Jul 2008 02:09 GMT > On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:23:41 -0400, "Stephanie" > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > such a vulnerable position and being "trapped"....it only takes 1 or 2 > such experiences to make someone very afraid. Yep, it is the trapped thing for me.
> When my oldest son, J, was about 4 or so, I took him to a pediatric > dentist. They needed to do a filling and he was a very busy, active [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > FINE. > -- What a bunch of crap-heads. Talk about making a hard experience worse. Glad you went elsewhere.
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Bill in Co - 10 Jul 2008 19:42 GMT >>>>>>> So how did your evaluation go? Well, I hope! >>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > > I can jump out of an airplane. Because you are somewhat in control, maybe.
> Dentists scare me. Shoot me! Because you are not in control. Is this a control issue? :-)
> Which is my way of saying fear is not necessarily something you can > rationally explain. Maybe or maybe not. I'm not sure, but I'd like to believe there is one.
> I don't have any specific anxiety or panic issue, in > general. Usually when I am freaking out there is a reasonable and [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> (did I write that? - damn, it always comes back to bite me, in the >> end :-) Rog' - 10 Jul 2008 22:17 GMT > I can jump out of an airplane. Denstists scare me. Shoot me! My theory: Dentists are sadists who get off on inflicting pain. ...You swallowed a lot of blood?" "Oh, did that hurt?" ...Let me see if I can find another nerve to stab with this ice-pick.
Vickie - 11 Jul 2008 01:53 GMT > > I can jump out of an airplane. Denstists scare me. Shoot me! > > My theory: Dentists are sadists who get off on inflicting pain. > ...You swallowed a lot of blood?" "Oh, did that hurt?" ...Let > me see if I can find another nerve to stab with this ice-pick. omg V
Lauri - 11 Jul 2008 01:59 GMT >> I can jump out of an airplane. Denstists scare me. Shoot me! > >My theory: Dentists are sadists who get off on inflicting pain. >...You swallowed a lot of blood?" "Oh, did that hurt?" ...Let >me see if I can find another nerve to stab with this ice-pick. Not helping, Rog! Not helping! We want ickie-Vay to go to the entist-Day omorrow-tay, and she won't if you say stuff like this!
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Vickie - 11 Jul 2008 02:17 GMT > On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 17:17:38 -0400, "Rog'" > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > entist-Day omorrow-tay, and she won't if you say stuff like this! > -- Yeah, I think I will give Rog's posts a wide berth.
By the way, the pain is so freakin' harsh, I called the doc and asked for pain killers. So now I gots the vicodin. My head is swimming, my jaw is still sort of in pain, and I really hope I am making sense with my posts!
Vickie
Xorra - 11 Jul 2008 05:04 GMT >> On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 17:17:38 -0400, "Rog'" >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > jaw is still sort of in pain, and I really hope I am making sense with > my posts! omg, wow. Yeah, definitely ask what other ones need attention before you forget what it feels like to wait too long.
Xorra
dejablues - 11 Jul 2008 02:54 GMT >>> I can jump out of an airplane. Denstists scare me. Shoot me! >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Not helping, Rog! Not helping! We want ickie-Vay to go to the > entist-Day omorrow-tay, and she won't if you say stuff like this! Teeth are very interesting. I think dentists are people who just like teeth. You have to have a bit of engineer and artist in you to be a good dentist. I just read an article in Discover magazine about a 2000 year old Scythian mummy who had advanced periodontal disease complete with tooth loss and pitted jawbones. Problems with teeth have always plagued humans and we should be thankful for today's dental science.
I've been to horrible dentists and I've been to wonderful dentists. I know of dentists that smoke pot and some that play in punk rock bands. If you don't like the one you have, find another.
Vickie - 11 Jul 2008 02:07 GMT > >>>> So how did your evaluation go? Well, I hope! > [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > weird to not care if people think I am a dork. But ... what impact does it > make in my life if the receptionist at the denist office thinks it?- Hide quoted text - Yeah, it will be the least of my worries, really. V
Bill in Co - 10 Jul 2008 19:12 GMT >>>> So how did your evaluation go? Well, I hope! >>> [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > Vickie No. Men don't cry it out, they just tough it out. Geeesh. Guess you don't remember Gary Cooper, eh?
Rog' - 10 Jul 2008 19:19 GMT >> You think men wait until they get in their car and cry it out? Men tend to internalize these so-called "feelings." That's why we have more heart attacks. :-/
Vickie - 11 Jul 2008 02:13 GMT > >> You think men wait until they get in their car and cry it out? > > Men tend to internalize these so-called "feelings." > That's why we have more heart attacks. :-/ Not so sure about that. I was reading this heart disease thing at the pharmacy and I think women die from heart failure more than men. But then maybe you all have more attacks, but don't die from it?
Cancer was next on both lists.
And further down the line, one reason for death that was not on the women's list but on the men's was accidents. You guys a bunch of dare-devils or klutz?
V
Stephanie - 10 Jul 2008 19:24 GMT >>>>> So how did your evaluation go? Well, I hope! >>>> [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > No. Men don't cry it out, they just tough it out. Geeesh. > Guess you don't remember Gary Cooper, eh? My husband cries. Just not about the dentist. He gets upset by different things.
Bill in Co - 10 Jul 2008 19:43 GMT >>>>>> So how did your evaluation go? Well, I hope! >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > My husband cries. Just not about the dentist. He gets upset by different > things. Like? (Maybe we guys tend to get upset over similar things).
Vickie - 10 Jul 2008 00:12 GMT Hey Lauri, I forget if you are a software engineer. I am thinking you are and my husband sent this to me. Kind of long, but if you have a moment, I think it is way funny.
http://thewebsiteisdown.com/
Vickie
Lauri - 10 Jul 2008 02:03 GMT >Hey Lauri, I forget if you are a software engineer. I am thinking you are >and my husband sent this to me. >Kind of long, but if you have a moment, I think it is way funny. > >http://thewebsiteisdown.com/ LOL, that is funny! At first I thought that I wasn't going to be interested because of the Halo (or whatever it is that he's playing) but it turned out to be pretty entertaining!
I think I'll go re-arrange my desktop icons!
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Vickie - 10 Jul 2008 07:21 GMT >>Hey Lauri, I forget if you are a software engineer. I am thinking you are >>and my husband sent this to me. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > interested because of the Halo (or whatever it is that he's playing) > but it turned out to be pretty entertaining! I know! There are some slow moments, but when the guy comes on asking if he received the email not to reboot and he goes in to the admin system and erases said email, then the guy is like, "Oh, I wonder what happened to it?" that was so funny.
> I think I'll go re-arrange my desktop icons! He knew what order they were in! It cracks me up.
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Lauri - 10 Jul 2008 18:54 GMT >"Lauri" <laurinospam@nwidespam.netunspam> wrote in message
>> LOL, that is funny! At first I thought that I wasn't going to be >> interested because of the Halo (or whatever it is that he's playing) [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >email, then the guy is like, "Oh, I wonder what happened to it?" that was >so funny. What was funny to me was that it really reminds me of the way the engineers at work flip back and forth between screens, command lines, etc. Yeah, the deletion of the email was funny, as was the way that he phrased it when other users called in to shift the blame.
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YooperBoyka - 10 Jul 2008 16:50 GMT >> Hey Lauri, I forget if you are a software engineer. I am thinking >> you are and my husband sent this to me. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > LOL, that is funny! At first I thought that I wasn't going to be > interested because of the Halo (or whatever it is that he's playing) I want a codpiece like that one!
> but it turned out to be pretty entertaining! > > I think I'll go re-arrange my desktop icons!
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