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Teri - 26 Feb 2007 22:11 GMT
and probably not what anyone is even thinking.  My 6yo has always been a
'picky' eater ... (if you google - this has been a hot topic for me before)
and also somewhat of a control freak. So - the foods he likes are very
'typical' kid foods: pizza, chicken, grilled cheese, yogurt, scrambled eggs,
fruit (with the occasional odd food like grapefruits and fried calamari). In
an effort to lessen the 'food' fighting and to avoid the push-pull thing,
I've been pretty content to give him chicken (nuggets, tenders, fingers,
cutlets) as the primary meal - usually accompanied by fruit and/or other
stuff with the hopes that he will, in fact, get bored. And it's happening.
So, we've talked about him 'trying' new foods ... i've made it very clear I
don't expect or want him to eat foods that don't taste good to him, he can
try very small amounts until he decides it's ok, he can spit out whatever he
tries and finds distasteful... whatever.  He has recently explained that he
is 'afraid it will taste bad' and is having a hard time getting over the
'fear' of eating something 'icky'.  Additionally, he is also reluctant to
learn how to play a 'new' game - like yahtzee or monopoly  - again,
explaining that he is 'afraid' of not knowing what to do (we've explained
and shown how we can play as a team to start - we're all learning - 8yo bro
is learning at the same time etc) or of losing.  Basic insecurities, iykwim.
How can I help / encourage him ... without pushing him so that his drive to
control all kicks in and he becomes utterly resistant to all?  Thanks.
Teri
Mermaid - 26 Feb 2007 23:41 GMT
> and probably not what anyone is even thinking.  My 6yo has always been a
> 'picky' eater ... (if you google - this has been a hot topic for me before)
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> control all kicks in and he becomes utterly resistant to all?  Thanks.
> Teri

My neice was a fearful child and I went to school with a fearful child
in her early years anyhow.  BOth have grown into wonderful balanced
adults in their own right.  Neither are big at taking risks but that
isn't really a problem since they have found their lives in good order.
I think your son will find his way if you give him some parameters.
Maybe his friends will model some behaviors for him as he gets older?

My dd is 6 and she isn't big at taking risks or eating a huge variety
now that I think of it so it may be the age?  Give it time.

Anni
Marc - 27 Feb 2007 02:10 GMT
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"Teri"
> and probably not what anyone is even thinking.  My 6yo has always been a
> 'picky' eater ... (if you google - this has been a hot topic for me
> before)
yup

> and also somewhat of a control freak. So - the foods he likes are very
> 'typical' kid foods: pizza, chicken, grilled cheese, yogurt, scrambled
> eggs, fruit (with the occasional odd food like grapefruits and fried
> calamari). In
yup, vegetables but no fruit in our case.

> an effort to lessen the 'food' fighting and to avoid the push-pull thing,
yup

> I've been pretty content to give him chicken (nuggets, tenders, fingers,
> cutlets) as the primary meal - usually accompanied by fruit and/or other
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> pushing him so that his drive to control all kicks in and he becomes
> utterly resistant to all?  Thanks.

Marc
Nina Pretty Ballerina - 27 Feb 2007 11:57 GMT
> and probably not what anyone is even thinking.  My 6yo has always been a
> 'picky' eater ... (if you google - this has been a hot topic for me
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> all kicks in and he becomes utterly resistant to all?  Thanks.
> Teri

my 6 yo eats anything, so i dont know what to say, but he is similar in othr
ways.

something that they did at school last year when learing about healthy
eating, was they had to try 6 new healthy foods and write them down.  Maybe
if he had something from some other source othr than you encouraging him to
try he might?

other than that, dont worry, my brother would only eat vegemite sandwiches
as a kid and now he eats all sorts of thigns!  my mother cant believe it is
the same kid (he is 34 now)

chris
Teri - 27 Feb 2007 12:07 GMT
>> and probably not what anyone is even thinking.  My 6yo has always been a
>> 'picky' eater ... (if you google - this has been a hot topic for me
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
>
> chris

The truth is that I'm not worried about he eats - in general - he does ok...
sometimes it's inconvenient when we're out or visiting - but he's also
learning that if he does't eat what's served when we're at  a guests house,
he's not permitted to ask them to make him something else ... he eats what's
served or not. I just think it's a bigger part of teaching him to step
outside his comfort zone .... I think that's where I would like to
concentrate my efforts a little.....
Teri
Ericka Kammerer - 27 Feb 2007 14:34 GMT
> The truth is that I'm not worried about he eats - in general - he does ok...
> sometimes it's inconvenient when we're out or visiting - but he's also
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> outside his comfort zone .... I think that's where I would like to
> concentrate my efforts a little.....

    It's a big challenge.  He will start stepping outside
his comfort zone more when he has more experience to tell him
that when he does it, it's not such a huge deal (even if he
"fails").  The problem is that it becomes a chicken-and-egg
sort of problem.  The more time that goes by without him
trying something, the more he becomes entrenched in avoiding
the possibility of discomfort.
    He has to have consistent little successes.  By
"successes," I don't mean that he's fabulous at everything
he tries (which is a common misconception).  It means that
he tries things, and sometimes he does well or enjoys it
and sometimes he doesn't, but in either case he realizes
that it's not the end of the world.  He needs to learn that
he can handle discomfort.
    At the same time, kids are too smart not to realize
that all challenges are not created equal.  Some things are
more important to try, and some are less important.  Some
things you have to do whether you like them or not, and
other things just don't really matter.  You're likely to
get a lot of resistance if you just start insisting on
doing things that obviously don't really matter.  You can
have some discussions about learning to try new things,
and how you'd like to help him experiment a bit trying
things that aren't a big deal so that he can feel more
comfortable trying new things when he doesn't have a choice.
    For example, it really doesn't matter in the
grand scheme of things whether he plays a new board game
or not.  Nothing bad is going to happen in his life if
he never plays Parcheesi.  However, you can talk to him
about trying new games as a way to try something new
among friends where it doesn't matter if he's really good
at it right away.  (And watch the dynamic with big brother--
is he motivated by fear of being "less than" his bigger,
more competent brother?)  Model lots of coping with
"failure" yourself.  Does he see others in the family
try and fail, or is he surrounded by people who appear to
him to be good at everything they do?

Best wishes,
Ericka
toto - 27 Feb 2007 21:40 GMT
>The truth is that I'm not worried about he eats - in general - he does ok...
>sometimes it's inconvenient when we're out or visiting - but he's also
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>concentrate my efforts a little.....
>Teri

This one is hard, but you can try some of these strategies:

Have him set a goal for himself and meet it.  Start small at first.

Make mistakes yourself and comment on them.  *Oh, dear, I added that
incorrectly. I will have to try again.*  

Set up some chores for him that you know he can succeed at.

Get him into a sport like Karate.

If he has something he is really interested in, have him research it
and become the *family expert* on the topic.  Let him teach you and
his siblings all about it.

Tell family and friends about his accomplishments when he can overhear
you, but be careful to be realistic in this.

Leave encouraging notes for him (in his lunchbox)

Model and encourage positive self-talk.  

Good things to say to your kids

  1. You really worked hard. (Be specific)
  2. We all make mistakes. (Maybe pointing out some you have made.
  3. Thanks for helping. (Be specific)
  4. I think you can be trusted to handle this!
  5. You’re right. (about....)
  6. I love you.
  7. Great try.  (point out the parts that he succeeded at too)
  8. How thoughtful. (Be specific)
  9. You figured that out.  (Be specific)
10. I have faith in you.
 

--
Dorothy

There is no sound, no cry in all the world
that can be heard unless someone listens ..

The Outer Limits
kiticat - 27 Feb 2007 13:44 GMT
> and probably not what anyone is even thinking.  My 6yo has always been a
> 'picky' eater ... (if you google - this has been a hot topic for me before)
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> control all kicks in and he becomes utterly resistant to all?  Thanks.
> Teri

Have you tried focusing on the things he would like to achieve? Perhaps
you and he could work on a list of things he wishes he were brave enough
to try. Then when he achieves a target you could make him up a
certificate on the computer that can be displayed for all to see how
brave he was.
Its a thought anyhow.

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Teri - 27 Feb 2007 13:46 GMT
>> and probably not what anyone is even thinking.  My 6yo has always been a
>> 'picky' eater ... (if you google - this has been a hot topic for me
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> on the computer that can be displayed for all to see how brave he was.
> Its a thought anyhow.

And a good thought, too!  I will see if making a list and the idea of a
bravery certificate or something will motivate him.  In general.... he can't
be bribed - but he does delight in the feeling of accomplishment, so maybe I
will play up that aspect!
Teri
 
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