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Family Forum / Parenting / Mothers / March 2007A Couple good chuckles...
One day, when a seamstress was sewing while sitting close to a river, her thimble fell into the river. When she cried out, the Lord appeared and asked, "My dear child, why are you crying?" The seamstress replied that her thimble had fallen into the water and that she needed it to help her husband in making a living for their family. The Lord dipped His hand into the water and pulled up a golden thimble set with pearls. "Is this your thimble?" the Lord asked. The seamstress replied, "No." The Lord again dipped into the river. He held out a silver thimble ringed with sapphires. Is this your thimble?" the Lord asked. Again, the seamstress replied, "No." The Lord reached down again and came up with a leather thimble. "Is this your thimble?" the Lord asked. The seamstress replied, "Yes." The Lord was pleased with the woman's honesty and gave her all three thimbles to keep, and the seamstress went home happy. Some years later, the seamstress was walking with her husband along the riverbank, and her husband fell into the river and disappeared under the water. When she cried out, the Lord again appeared and asked her, "Why are you crying?" Oh Lord, my husband has fallen into the river!" The Lord went down into the water and came up with George Clooney. Is this your husband?" the Lord asked. Yes," cried the seamstress. The Lord was furious. "You lied! That is an untruth!" The seamstress replied, "Oh, forgive me, my Lord It is a misunderstanding. You see, if I had said 'no' to George Clooney, you would have come up with Brad Pitt. Then if I said 'no' to him, you would have come up with my husband. Had I then said 'yes,' you would have given me all three. Lord, I'm not in the best of health and would not be able to take care of all three husbands, so THAT'S why I said 'yes' to George Clooney. And so the Lord let her keep him. The moral of this story is: Whenever a woman lies, it's for a good and honorable reason, and in the best interest of others. That's our story, and we're sticking to it. Signed, All Us Women ------------------------ >I planted some bird seed. A bird came up. Now I don't know what to > feed > it. > ***** > > I had amnesia once -- or twice. > ***** > > I went to San Francisco. I found someone's heart. Now what? > ***** > > Protons have mass? I didn't even know they were Catholic. > ***** > > All I ask is a chance to prove that money can't make me happy. > ***** > > If the world were a logical place, men would be the ones who ride > horses > sidesaddle. > ***** > > What is a "free" gift? Aren't all gifts free? > ***** > > They told me I was gullible and I believed them. > ***** > > Teach a child to be polite and courteous in the home and, when he > grows > up, > he'll never be able to merge his car onto the freeway. > ****** > > Experience is the thing you have left when everything else is gone > ***** > > One nice thing about egotists: they don't talk about other people. > ***** > > My weight is perfect for my height -- which varies. > ***** > I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not sure. > ***** > The cost of living hasn't affected its popularity. > ***** > How can there be self-help "groups"? > ***** > If swimming is so good for your figure, how do you explain whales? > ***** > Show me a man with both feet firmly on the ground, and I'll show > you a > man > who can't get his pants off. > ***** > > Is it me--or do buffalo wings taste like chicken? > The Lord went down into the water and came up with George > Clooney. > Is this your husband?" the Lord asked. > Yes," cried the seamstress. you know, i have no interest in George Clooney, or Brad Pitt, but if god wanted to give me Tom Cruise so i could beat some sense into him.... lee <hates those fake religion folks> >> The Lord went down into the water and came up with George >> Clooney. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > sense into him.... > lee <hates those fake religion folks> er, lee, an off the cuff remark, but rather judgemental when you think about it.... chris >>> The Lord went down into the water and came up with George >>> Clooney. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > er, lee, an off the cuff remark, but rather judgemental > when you think about it.... so? it was started as a joke. if these people don't get that, it's not my fault. my family has been victimized by the cult. i hold no goodwill. notice i don't capitalize god? there's a reason for that too. lee >>>> The Lord went down into the water and came up with George >>>> Clooney. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > notice i don't capitalize god? there's a reason for that too. > lee yeah, take your point started as a joke, yet who decides what is fake religion or not? > yet who decides > what is fake religion or not? well, most 'real' religions don't start as a bar bet... lee >> yet who decides >> what is fake religion or not? > > well, most 'real' religions don't start as a bar bet... >lee Do we really know some 'xtians' weren't sitting around drinking some home-made grog and decided to come up with Christianity? Nan >>> yet who decides >>> what is fake religion or not? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > drinking some home-made grog and decided to come up with > Christianity? are there any religions started by sailors? grog is watered down rum (actually it's water with rum in it because the alcohol helped keep the water from growing nasty bacteria at sea) & not something landlubbers would drink. besides it doesn't have enough alcohol to make one talk to god ;) however, i hedged a bit there & said "most". i suspect some splinter religions may very well have started, not as bar bets, but as alcohol or drug induced discussions with god or angels. i know that my brother was rewriting the bible according to his 'voices' at one point... if he was charming enough to collect followers, he too could start a religion. fortunately for the world, he's not :) lee >>> yet who decides >>> what is fake religion or not? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Nan Respectfully, perhaps this would be a better subject over on the alt.I.hate.Christians newsgroup instead of this mothers group? Or the header changed to OT so it can be filtered out easily? Thanks, Carolyne in TX, proud Christian for over 30 years. >>>> yet who decides >>>> what is fake religion or not? [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > mothers group? Or the header changed to OT so it can be > filtered out easily? i'm not bashing Christians, Caroline. i have almost no issues with Christians, unless they're in my face about it. but, to be completely honest, i don't like people in my face over any particular thing, be they Christian, or vegan or PETA or whatever. (& vegans & PETA terrorists are far far more annoying than 99.9% of any religious zealot <g>). i was brought up in a Christian church & have decided that it's not for me or my family. if it suits you, that's fine. however, i don't have much sympathy for people who believe in a bar bet cult "religion" thought up by a hack sci-fi writer... lee <Zenu loves me> whoops.. I almost reacted of "I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING" then I remembered there is another Caroline :) Caroline >>>>> yet who decides >>>>> what is fake religion or not? [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > writer... > lee <Zenu loves me> > whoops.. I almost reacted of "I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING" then I > remembered there is another Caroline :) i know a few Carolines, but there's lots more Jennifers... i think Hannahs & Caitlyns will be showing up as moms soon. why, if there are so *many* good girl names, do some names become so popular? i like Hannah (and Jennifer), but i wouldn't want my daughter (if i had one) to be one of 5 Hannahs in her class... i know it happens with boys too (there are 4 Jacobs in 12 boys in Boo's class), but there are fewer boy names (what with people using perfectly good boy names for thier girls) to start with. lee >> whoops.. I almost reacted of "I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING" then I >> remembered there is another Caroline :) [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > start with. > lee Yup in 15-20 years we will be over run with Makayla's and Haleys.. the only problem will be none of them will be spelled the same. Tori (With 2 kids not in the top 10.. Xavier is in the top 50-100 for the year he was born though) > Yup in 15-20 years we will be over run with Makayla's and > Haleys.. the only problem will be none of them will be > spelled the same. i have found 14 different spellings of Caitlyn so far. i collect names & the "unique spelling" fad is a pain in the butt for tracking... not to mention the difficulties the poor kids are going to have spelling their name for others for the rest of their life. > (With 2 kids not in the top 10.. Xavier is in the top > 50-100 for the year he was born though) blame Buffy ;) lee >> Yup in 15-20 years we will be over run with Makayla's and >> Haleys.. the only problem will be none of them will be [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > kids are going to have spelling their name for others for the > rest of their life. Wow 14? >> (With 2 kids not in the top 10.. Xavier is in the top >> 50-100 for the year he was born though) > > blame Buffy ;) > lee I would but Buffy Has Zander :P Xavier is actualy a popular name in the hispanic comunity so it is unlikely that he would be in school (if I sent him to public school) with another Xavier, at least in this area. Also there is Profesor Xavier of the X-men and Xavier Roberts the guy who is stamped on the butts of cabage patch dolls. Tori >>Yup in 15-20 years we will be over run with Makayla's and >>Haleys.. the only problem will be none of them will be >>spelled the same. > > i have found 14 different spellings of Caitlyn so far. How many pronunciations? Clisby > i collect names & the "unique spelling" fad is a pain in the > butt for tracking... not to mention the difficulties the poor [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > blame Buffy ;) > lee >>>Yup in 15-20 years we will be over run with Makayla's and >>>Haleys.. the only problem will be none of them will be [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > How many pronunciations? are there more than one? i've only seen them written out, so i don't know if there are different pronunciations. i have heard people pronounce the Mackayla, Mckaila, Makalyas differently, not that it helps any with how their particular variation is spelled... growing up i had a friend named Lois... pronounced the way it looks with one syllable, *not* Low-is. as a kid it never would have occured to me to pronounce it the 2 syllable way. lee > are there more than one? I have seen it pronounced Catlynn on tv but spelled Caitlin Tori > whoops.. I almost reacted of "I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING" then I > remembered there is another Caroline :) As long as everyone spells the person's name correctly, there is no confusion, since there is Caroline and Carolyne.  SignatureMo >>>> yet who decides >>>> what is fake religion or not? [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >Thanks, >Carolyne in TX, proud Christian for over 30 years. I don't see anyone bashing christians. Nan >>>>> yet who decides >>>>> what is fake religion or not? [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Nan Obviously. Therefore, my respectful request. :-) >> I don't see anyone bashing christians. >> >> Nan >> > Obviously. Therefore, my respectful request. :-) Knowing Nan I dont think she intended to bash anyone. And while the statement might "feel" bashing I would look at the poster. Nan is not one to bash for the sake of bashing. Now if say Latreen said something like that I might be offended. My knee jerk reaction was to be offended as well. Just so you know I am not picking on you. *hugs* Tori >>> I don't see anyone bashing christians. >>> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Tori Thanks for understanding! :-) I wouldn't call it 'bashing', but yes, as a Christian it is quite offensive, and really has no place on a moms group, IMO. <shrugs> >>>> I don't see anyone bashing christians. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > I wouldn't call it 'bashing', but yes, as a Christian it is quite > offensive, and really has no place on a moms group, IMO. <shrugs> AM is not a mom's group. Lots of people here aren't moms... Alt.mothers: everyone has one. SignatureMo >>>>> I don't see anyone bashing christians. >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Alt.mothers: everyone has one. Really? This is news to me. Seems like a group called alt.mothers would be about...mothers. :-) Silly me for making that assumption. >>>>>> I don't see anyone bashing christians. >>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > Really? This is news to me. Seems like a group called alt.mothers > would be about...mothers. :-) Silly me for making that assumption. Well, some of did not choose NOT to be moms, you know. SignatureMo >>>>>>> I don't see anyone bashing christians. >>>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Well, some of did not choose NOT to be moms, you know. Then shouldn't you be posting to alt.NOT.moms instead? ;-) Is there an FAQ for this group? Could someone point me to it? >>>>>>>> I don't see anyone bashing christians. >>>>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Then shouldn't you be posting to alt.NOT.moms instead? ;-) Wow...and that coming from a former primary. How nice that you think that it is a joking matter. From all the people in the world, I would have expected you to be the last person to make such a comment to a permanent primary, Carolyne. > Is there an FAQ for this group? Could someone point me to it? SignatureMo Caroline is a nasty little twat, Mo. Didn't you ever notice she fails to mention her towel-head husband. > >>>>>>>> I don't see anyone bashing christians. > >>>>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > > Is there an FAQ for this group? Could someone point me to it? >>>>>>>>> I don't see anyone bashing christians. >>>>>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > you to be the last person to make such a comment to a permanent primary, > Carolyne. I wasn't aware this is an infertility group??? Sorry, I actually misread the sentence in a hurry, thought it said, "some of us chose Not to be moms, you know", and I thought it was a child-free person writing. Sorry if I offended you, didn't mean to. {{{Hugs}}} >> Is there an FAQ for this group? Could someone point me to it? Still looking...still looking... >>>>>>>>>> I don't see anyone bashing christians. >>>>>>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > I wasn't aware this is an infertility group??? Who said it was? And even if it were, what do you mean by the comment? Any infertile person should remain in their own periphery, no crossing the borders? *Really* <rolls eyes>. BTW, *I* never brought up infertility, there are actually other medical reasons why people can't have children. Ever. Being forced into being childless is not exclusive to infertiles. > Sorry, I actually misread the sentence in a hurry, thought it said, > "some of us chose Not to be moms, you know", and I thought it was a > child-free person writing. Thanks for the compliment, sheesh. It's not as if this is the first time we have ever bumped into eachother in NGs Carolyne. I have never been anything other than civil to you, been sending you silent vibes for YEARS, and for the life of me I can't understand why you would make these hateful comments to me. How would *you* feel if you had been posting somewhere for YEARS and some newbie barges into the group stating that only people with more than just an only child should be posting there? Did that bite? Multiply it by two and then you have about the effect you created in me. BTW, the post you claim to have misread was the *third* hint on my part towards you. Clearly you read what you wanted to read in the other two posts as well. > Sorry if I offended you, didn't mean to. There's no *if* about it and given the background plus everything I am going through ATM, sorry, I'm just not in a forgiving mood. In the short time you have been here, there have been at least two occasions where you demanded your sensitivities be respected. Pity you don't show me that very same respect you demand from others. > {{{Hugs}}} > >>> Is there an FAQ for this group? Could someone point me to it? >> > Still looking...still looking... I'm sure it's out there somewhere, but as I have been here for years, I have no need for it. Neither do all the fathers posting here (they're not mothers either, you know), or the several other childless people in AM, I would imagine. AM is an open-minded group, we think outside the box, you should try it, it's very refreshing. And this Carolyne, is as civil a reply you're going to get from me at this time, having just been spat in the face and still trying to get that knife out of my back. It would perhaps have been a different story had you and I never bumped into other NGs before. I know your story, I have *no* reason to assume that you don't know mine. And given that fact your responses were unforgivable. SignatureMo >>>>>>>>>>> I don't see anyone bashing christians. >>>>>>>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >>> would have expected you to be the last person to make such a comment >>> to a permanent primary, Carolyne. Did you notice the smiley face thingie at the end? It was a joke. I told you I misread the sentence. Who are you? I don't have a syllabus with each and every posters' name and life history, so how could I know you are a permanent primary?? >> I wasn't aware this is an infertility group??? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > are actually other medical reasons why people can't have children. Ever. > Being forced into being childless is not exclusive to infertiles. You commented on your status and my former status as a primary infertile, so yes, you did bring up infertility. I don't know who you are, so I had no idea you are a permanent primary. I would NEVER wish that on my worst enemies. I am sorry for your lot in life. But *I* didn't cause it, so I don't think I deserve a lot of this bile aimed in my direction. Infertiles can post/lurk/whatever wherever they want. USENET has no limits, really. I never said anything about anyone not being able to post here, regardless of fertility status. Like I've said about eighty times, I thought this was a group about mothers, my mistake for reading the title as 'alt.mothers'. >> Sorry, I actually misread the sentence in a hurry, thought it said, >> "some of us chose Not to be moms, you know", and I thought it was a [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > just an only child should be posting there? Did that bite? Multiply it by > two and then you have about the effect you created in me. <whoosh> Don't have a clue what you are referring to here! I never said only certain people could post here, and I certainly never told you you can't post here, child or no child. I thought you were one of those rude childfree people who attacks people with children from your remarks (which I admit I misread). I apologized. What do you want, blood? I'm still trying to find the FAQ to determine what the guidelines are here. Not a mindreader, you know. BTW, the post you > claim to have misread was the *third* hint on my part towards you. Clearly > you read what you wanted to read in the other two posts as well. Who the heck are you?!? Secret Agent Woman?? What's up with 'hints'??? I have no idea who you are. There is no secret agenda for me to come here and personally attack you. Sheesh. >> Sorry if I offended you, didn't mean to. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > your sensitivities be respected. Pity you don't show me that very same > respect you demand from others. Sorry you are in a bad place right now. *I* didn't put you there though. "Demanded"?! Who do you think I am, the President or something? I have ~respectfully~ asked people who were criticizing religion if they might take the conversation somewhere else. Don't know what else you are referring to and don't have time to google to figure it out. But I don't stamp my foot in my posts and *demand* anything...<puzzled> I can't force or demand anyone to do anything on USENET. They can keep writing whatever they want after a polite request, I'm not a netkop. If such a thing happens, I just filter them out of the group, makes things more pleasant. >> {{{Hugs}}} >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > imagine. AM is an open-minded group, we think outside the box, you should > try it, it's very refreshing. Ah, the old left hand slap in the face! Refreshing! <rolls eyeballs right back> Anyone can post here if they want, even the lovely LaTreen. I'm not the moderator in charge, so what kind of power do you think I have? All I know is the name of the group. When I go to a scrapbooking group, I expect that the general conversations will be about scrapbooking. When I go to a Star Wars group, I expect the general conversations to me Star Wars related. When I came to this group, alt.mothers, I expected it to be mothers discussing a variety of issues, mostly things that occur on a daily basis, not necessarily all to do with child rearing...yet you say it's an anything goes, anyone can post group that really doesn't have anything to do with mothers--<???>-ooooookay. That's cool with me. > And this Carolyne, is as civil a reply you're going to get from me at this > time, having just been spat in the face and still trying to get that knife > out of my back. It would perhaps have been a different story had you and I > never bumped into other NGs before. I know your story, I have *no* reason to > assume that you don't know mine. And given that fact your responses were > unforgivable. Then by all means, killfile me. I'm doing the same for you, so I won't offend your 'secret identity' any further--I really don't have time for all the 'hush-hush, I'm sending out secret clues to let you know who I am" business. I am just going by the name of the group. alt.mothers. To me, that means it's a support group for 'mothers', or it would be called 'alt.whoeverwantstopost'. Not saying ANYONE under the sun can't post if they want to, that's fine. If it's an ANYTHING GOES group, that's fine too--I've asked for the FAQ several times to clarify what the purpose of this group is. Please don't assume that newbies who come along just automatically know EVERYTHING about a newsgroup, even when they've lurked for awhile, like I did. I suspect you are someone I've had to killfile before on the infertility groups for various reasons--if you think I came over here specifically to hurt your feelings, and that makes you feel better, by all means, go on feeling that way. I don't know you from Adam in this secret identity stuff. I made a simple mistake, ran into the study to check my groups on a break, misread a sentence and responded to it, you pointed out my HORRIBLE HORRIBLE error, I apologized for my UNFORGIVABLE offense (?!), and still you say I deliberately 'spat in your face'?!? You obviously have some issues to deal with concerning your losses, and I'm truly sorry for that. But "Mo", again, I don't have a clue who you are, don't plan on googling you since you don't want to tell, don't know your story in this persona, and sorry you are having a bad time and feel like all of it is MY fault. If it helps you feel better, I'm sure you'll keep feeling that way. Probably best if we stay out of each other's way then and just killfile each other. Take care, Carolyne in TX >>>>>>>>>>>> I don't see anyone bashing christians. >>>>>>>>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > Did you notice the smiley face thingie at the end? It was a joke. I have already expressed just why I feel it was not and is not a joke. Clearly you believe it is. > I > told you I misread the sentence. Who are you? I don't have a syllabus > with each and every posters' name and life history, so how could I > know you are a permanent primary?? Well, you were ready enough to make a lot of totally unfounded assumptions about me, why not try facts for a change. >>> I wasn't aware this is an infertility group??? >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > You commented on your status and my former status as a primary > infertile, so yes, you did bring up infertility. I can't help that your mother tongue is lacking clarity, pardon my language skills. However, I take it my English is way better than your Dutch, so I'll continue in a language you get. I did NOT mention infertility, you did. The mere fact that YOUR primary status was caused by infertility doesn't imply that everyone else's is. I can't help the fact that you automatically link primary to infertility. > I don't know who you > are, so I had no idea you are a permanent primary. I would NEVER wish > that on my worst enemies. I am sorry for your lot in life. But *I* > didn't cause it, so I don't think I deserve a lot of this bile aimed > in my direction. I didn't say you caused it, I responded to your behaviour. > Infertiles can post/lurk/whatever wherever they want. USENET has no > limits, really. I never said anything about anyone not being able to > post here, regardless of fertility status. Like I've said about eighty > times, I thought this was a group about mothers, my mistake for > reading the title as 'alt.mothers'. Way over the top. >>> Sorry, I actually misread the sentence in a hurry, thought it said, >>> "some of us chose Not to be moms, you know", and I thought it was a [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > <whoosh> > Don't have a clue what you are referring to here! I can't help that. > I never said only > certain people could post here, and I certainly never told you you > can't post here, child or no child. I suggest you go back and read just what you posted in response to me. You told me to go to another group. > I thought you were one of those > rude childfree people who attacks people with children from your > remarks (which I admit I misread). I apologized. What do you want, > blood? Really Carolyne, where does this drama come from? I asked you just *what* caused your rude comments towards me and you fail to answer this, you present nothing more than 'assumptions'. Where was I rude to you? Quote, Carolyne! What part of what I wrote made you respond to me assuming that I was a rude childfree person? Found your accusations, without that your apology is meaningless. No blood wanted, just truthfullness, honesty, sincerity, facts. > I'm still trying to find the FAQ to determine what the guidelines are > here. Not a mindreader, you know. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Who the heck are you?!? Secret Agent Woman?? What's up with 'hints'??? I gently tried to steer you in the right direction, I should have used a sledge hammer? > I have no idea who you are. There is no secret agenda for me to come > here and personally attack you. Sheesh. Sigh, where did I imply that? You followed Jolinda here, perhaps you might want to Google her first post in here. Interesting information in there. >>> Sorry if I offended you, didn't mean to. >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > though. > "Demanded"?! Ach gut, is het weer niet goed met mijn Engels? Antwoord dan lekker zelf in het Nederlands! FYI: I am NOT a native speaker of English, since you are so terribly upset about my language skills and throw a tantrum about every word I say, about apparently not using the exactly correct terminology in YOUR language, I suggest you respond in Dutch. > Who do you think I am, the President or something? I have > ~respectfully~ asked people who were criticizing religion if they > might take the conversation somewhere else. Don't know what else you > are referring to and don't have time to google to figure it out. But > I don't stamp my foot in my posts and *demand* anything...<puzzled> I didn't say you stamped your foot. > I can't force or demand anyone to > do anything on USENET. They can keep writing whatever they want after [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Anyone can post here if they want, even the lovely LaTreen. I'm not > the moderator in charge, so what kind of power do you think I have? None. And I never did think you had any power, don't flatter yourself. > All I know is the name of the group. When I go to a scrapbooking > group, I expect that the general conversations will be about [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > anyone can post group that really doesn't have anything to do with > mothers--<???>-ooooookay. That's cool with me. I tried to explain it to you gently, you responded with mockery, I tried to explain it to you again, you responded with hurtful insults, just who set the tone here? >> And this Carolyne, is as civil a reply you're going to get from me >> at this time, having just been spat in the face and still trying to [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > for all the 'hush-hush, I'm sending out secret clues to let you know > who I am" business. LOL, you're being absolutely ridiculous Carolyne, I have never posted under any nick other than Mo, nothing secretive about that, this whole complot theory is in your head, not in mine. > I am just going by the name of the group. > alt.mothers. To me, that means it's a support group for 'mothers', or it [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > come along just automatically know EVERYTHING about a newsgroup, even > when they've lurked for awhile, like I did. I didn't assume you knew everything, which is why I politely explained the nature of AM to you. You turned on the insults in response, based on your totally unfounded assumptions about me. > I suspect you are someone I've had to killfile before on the > infertility groups for various reasons-- If you did it was *after* you responded to my posts and no bad words were ever exchanged between us, until you turned on the insults in here. > if you think I came over here > specifically to hurt your feelings, Sigh, do you get something out of making all of this up? > and that makes you feel better, > by all means, go on feeling that way. I don't know you from Adam in > this secret identity stuff. There's no secret identity, just a Carolyne in Texas with a very bad memory, apparently. But if you don't know me from Adam, how come you assumed I was a childfree troll? If you don't know anything about me, you don't know *that* either. > I made a simple mistake, ran into the study to check my groups on a > break, misread a sentence and responded to it, you pointed out my > HORRIBLE HORRIBLE error, I apologized for my UNFORGIVABLE offense Ah, not liking my foreign language skills again. > (?!), and still you say I deliberately 'spat in your face'?!? You clearly don't get it. Any person who truly knows the heartache of being forced into childlessness would get it. > You obviously have some issues to deal with concerning your losses, > and I'm truly sorry for that. But "Mo", again, I don't have a clue who > you are, don't plan on googling you since you don't want to tell, It's in all my posts, it's not "Mo", it's Mo and it has always been. Stop trying to shove the blame for your poor memory towards me. > don't know your story in this persona, and sorry you are having a > bad time and feel like all of it is MY fault. I never said that, and the world does not evolve around you. I confronted you about your behaviour, nothing more. > If it helps you feel > better, I'm sure you'll keep feeling that way. Probably best if we > stay out of each other's way then and just killfile each other. I've seen a side of you I never thought I'd see, never expected this hateful bashing from you, coming out of nowhere, totally unfounded, just based on a figment of your imagination, assumptions and whatever. I was proud of you when you stuck up for Jolinda, that was the Carolyne I knew, not this. SignatureMo She told you Mo! She's got your number. > >>>>>>>>>>>> I don't see anyone bashing christians. > >>>>>>>>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 283 lines] > figment of your imagination, assumptions and whatever. I was proud of you > when you stuck up for Jolinda, that was the Carolyne I knew, not this. > Infertiles can post/lurk/whatever wherever they want. USENET has no > limits, really. I never said anything about anyone not being able to > post here, regardless of fertility status. Like I've said about eighty > times, I thought this was a group about mothers, my mistake for reading > the title as 'alt.mothers'. REALLY?!? Fret-freaks can post ANYWHERE? Can ANYONE post in the fert-freak groups?!?!? Should we find out? > >> Sorry, I actually misread the sentence in a hurry, thought it said, > >> "some of us chose Not to be moms, you know", and I thought it was a [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > childfree people who attacks people with children from your remarks > (which I admit I misread). I apologized. What do you want, blood? Blood, blood, BLOOD! Rude childfree people?? As opposed to rude, clueless breeders? Do you have a web page for your dead almost babies? > I'm still trying to find the FAQ to determine what the guidelines are > here. Not a mindreader, you know. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I have no idea who you are. There is no secret agenda for me to come > here and personally attack you. Sheesh. Secret Agent MOman... > >> Sorry if I offended you, didn't mean to. > > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > referring to and don't have time to google to figure it out. But I don't > stamp my foot in my posts and *demand* anything...<puzzled> What happened to Free Speech you Texan bimbo. Your Shrub bush didn't take away THAT amendment yet... > I can't force or demand anyone to > do anything on USENET. They can keep writing whatever they want after > a polite request, I'm not a netkop. If such a thing happens, I just > filter them out of the group, makes things more pleasant. I call BULLSHIT on this one. > >> {{{Hugs}}} > >> > >>>> Is there an FAQ for this group? Could someone point me to it? > >> Still looking...still looking... --------> FAQ You, Who'ddoyou. > > I'm sure it's out there somewhere, but as I have been here for years, I have > > no need for it. Neither do all the fathers posting here (they're not mothers [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Ah, the old left hand slap in the face! Refreshing! <rolls eyeballs > right back> We'd kick you in the a.s, but it's so big we fought over where to start. > Anyone can post here if they want, even the lovely LaTreen. I'm not the > moderator in charge, so what kind of power do you think I have? All I [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > it's an anything goes, anyone can post group that really doesn't have > anything to do with mothers--<???>-ooooookay. That's cool with me. I call BULLSHIT again. If it WAS ok, you wouldn't be rambling. > > And this Carolyne, is as civil a reply you're going to get from me at this > > time, having just been spat in the face and still trying to get that knife > > out of my back. It would perhaps have been a different story had you and I > > never bumped into other NGs before. I know your story, I have *no* reason to > > assume that you don't know mine. And given that fact your responses were > > unforgivable. SERIOUS drama from the big MOnster! Spat in the face and knife in the back. That Who'ddoher gets around! > Then by all means, killfile me. I'm doing the same for you, so I won't > offend your 'secret identity' any further--I really don't have time for > all the 'hush-hush, I'm sending out secret clues to let you know who I > am" business. I am just going by the name of the group. alt.mothers. > To me, that means it's a support group for 'mothers', or it would be > called 'alt.whoeverwantstopost'. DUH, then it would be alt.support.mothers HATE TO SAY IT but MOron is right - you DO have a problem understanding English. Did Georgie Bush cut out the funding for your skooling? >Not saying ANYONE under the sun can't > post if they want to, that's fine. BULLSHIT again. You set a new record for complaining about something you don't care about. >If it's an ANYTHING GOES group, > that's fine too--I've asked for the FAQ several times to clarify what > the purpose of this group is. Who was your slave last year? Do you still have Google in Texass? What results do you get??? >Please don't assume that newbies who come > along just automatically know EVERYTHING about a newsgroup, even when > they've lurked for awhile, like I did. You didn't lurk long enough. Go Away. > I suspect you are someone I've had to killfile before on the infertility > groups for various reasons--if you think I came over here specifically > to hurt your feelings, and that makes you feel better, by all means, go > on feeling that way. I don't know you from Adam in this secret identity > stuff. I thought you weren't psychic. > I made a simple mistake, ran into the study to check my groups on a > break, misread a sentence and responded to it, you pointed out my > HORRIBLE HORRIBLE error, I apologized for my UNFORGIVABLE offense (?!), > and still you say I deliberately 'spat in your face'?!? Break from what? You don't work - what do you need a break for? > You obviously have some issues to deal with concerning your losses, > and I'm truly sorry for that. OK Mrs. "I got 2 dead babies"... I don't believe you REALLY are sorry. You are MOcking us. >But "Mo", again, I don't have a clue who > you are, don't plan on googling you since you don't want to tell, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Take care, > Carolyne in TX Take care? Take a hike! Hi ho Mo, maybe you can get the hard-up guy that banged Jen to screw you. > >>>>>> I don't see anyone bashing christians. > >>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Well, some of did not choose NOT to be moms, you know. >>>> I don't see anyone bashing christians. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > quite offensive, and really has no place on a moms group, > IMO. <shrugs> ok, why is it offensive? seriously. is it xtians? because that's a really old way the christians referred to themselves when christianity was new & being christian was dangerous. i know some christians find it offensive, but i don't quite get why, considering it's history. lee > ok, why is it offensive? seriously. > is it xtians? because that's a really old way the christians [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > history. > lee "Do we really know some 'xtians' weren't sitting around drinking some home-made grog and decided to come up with Christianity?" I actualy GET the Xtian thing. Jeff and his parents get all offended and when I mention it was the Christians that started it they just act dumb. Anyway I dont offend long and I like both you and Nan enough to not stress out about it. Tori >> ok, why is it offensive? seriously. >> is it xtians? because that's a really old way the [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Anyway I dont offend long and I like both you and Nan > enough to not stress out about it. yeah, but that was what Nan said, not me. i'm not sorry about bashing Tom Cruise. he's an arrogant arse & he is being used (as are all the "celebrity" members) to lead people into forking over their money. lee > yeah, but that was what Nan said, not me. > i'm not sorry about bashing Tom Cruise. he's an arrogant arse > & he is being used (as are all the "celebrity" members) to > lead people into forking over their money. > lee Oh you can call Tom a wacko all you want. lol Tori >Anyway I dont offend long and I like both you and Nan enough to not stress >out about it. Tori, you have my sincerest apology. I'm not sure what I was thinking when I typed that post and I certainly put my foot in it! Nan > >Anyway I dont offend long and I like both you and Nan enough to not stress > >out about it. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Nan *Hugs* Like I told Caroline I dont think you intended to offend anyone. I know you better then that. Tori >> >Anyway I dont offend long and I like both you and Nan enough to not >stress [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >*Hugs* Like I told Caroline I dont think you intended to offend anyone. I >know you better then that. Thanks for being understanding :-) I have to watch my foot in mouth disease! Nan >>>>> I don't see anyone bashing christians. >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > history. > lee Partially, and the tone toward religion in general. I know the history, but I also know how it has been misused by Christian bashers too...however, I've been informed by MO that this really isn't a 'moms' group and anything goes, so y'all go ahead, I'll just killfile posts that bother me, no problem. :-) Carolyne in TX ...however, I've been informed by MO that this really >isn't a 'moms' group and anything goes, so y'all go ahead, I'll >just killfile posts that bother me, no problem. :-) Okay, this is a bit over the top. Mo has tried explaining to you that not only mothers post here. The description for this group is, "everybody has one". We have moms, dads, uncles, aunts, friends, a childfree nasty and my pet troll. Chill out already. Nan I told you these inferts are DRAMA QUEENS and that the fun would start! At least Whoddoher stopped yapping about her spoiled little brat. "Oh my, my, my - the world revolves around Mayo!" MAYO, MAYO, MAYO, Mayo.... And WHERE'S Jolinda?!? You friend done left you here alone Who'ddoyou! > ...however, I've been informed by MO that this really > >isn't a 'moms' group and anything goes, so y'all go ahead, I'll [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Nan >>> I don't see anyone bashing christians. >>> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >My knee jerk reaction was to be offended as well. Just so you know I am not >picking on you. Well, I apologize to both of you. I was arguing against lee's assertion that most religions were started as a joke, in a bar. Sorry I offended you guys :-( Nan >>>> I don't see anyone bashing christians. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Nan Bygones. :-) >>>> I don't see anyone bashing christians. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Sorry I offended you guys :-( I thought Lee was being sarcastic with that remark. I believe she was saying Christian Science was a bar bet... not all of Christianity. Tori >>>>> I don't see anyone bashing christians. >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > believe she was saying Christian Science was a bar bet... > not all of Christianity. not even the Christian Science folks... Mary Baker Eddy wasn't a drinker... & she would be appalled to be lumped with these folks. trust me, you guys do not want me to use the name of the "religion" because we'd be invaded by them. however, it has nothing to do with any christian religion. lee >>>> I don't see anyone bashing christians. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > lee's assertion that most religions were started as a joke, > in a bar. no, i said one particular "religion" was started as a bar joke by a hack sci-fi writer. i did NOT say anything about ANY christian religion. lee >>>>> I don't see anyone bashing christians. >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >christian religion. >lee Actually, you said 'most' in the same sentence. Nan > Actually, you said 'most' in the same sentence. when? after you brought in the grog? ;) lee >> Actually, you said 'most' in the same sentence. > > when? after you brought in the grog? ;) >lee LOL, I guess I could have read it wrong. Grog? I'd rather have a margarita ;-) Nan > LOL, I guess I could have read it wrong. Grog? I'd rather have a > margarita ;-) > > Nan mmmmmmmm margarita :) SignatureSarah You shouldn't talk such sh.t about Ron Hubbard and the Scientology religion like that. They could cure your retarded son, you know. > >>>> I don't see anyone bashing christians. > >>>> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > christian religion. > lee > You shouldn't talk such sh.t about Ron Hubbard and the > Scientology religion like that. oh of course not! now i see the error of my ways <snort> > They could cure your retarded son, you know. gee, if i *had* a retarded son, i'd still think they were full of sh.t... as a good catholic, i'd think you'd not think highly of them either. like i said a couple weeks ago LaTreen, your invective is boring. your schtick is old. you are simply a very boring old troll & therefore your opinions are worth less than the electrons you waste writing them. either contribute (& i know you can, i've seen you do it!) or just shut up. lee No, you're wrong. Nan is an ignorant and now blasphemous, twat. > >> I don't see anyone bashing christians. > >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Tori > No, you're wrong. > > Nan is an ignorant and now blasphemous, twat. Awww Havent we hugged you enough lately? Group hug with Treenie! Tori .. > lee <hates those fake religion folks> Maybe this is why you think I hate my neice in law... you seem to use the word pretty sparingly. Anni > .. >> lee <hates those fake religion folks> > > Maybe this is why you think I hate my neice in law... you > seem to use the word pretty sparingly. you're correct. i do use it sparingly. hate is reserved for those who deserve contempt, like the followers of L.Ron's joke. i also hate animal abusers (& PETA, because they are animal abusers) & child abusers. there are a lot of things i dislike, like willful stupidity, but they don't rise to the level of hate. it seems you have a lot of pent-up resentment of your niece- in-law. <shrug> lee > you're correct. i do use it sparingly. hate is reserved for > those who deserve contempt, like the followers of L.Ron's > joke. I meant you don't use it sparingly... my mistake... very wide brush... I might add this girl has real fur and as well she makes it fly sometimes! > i also hate animal abusers (& PETA, because they are animal > abusers) & child abusers. > there are a lot of things i dislike, like willful stupidity, > but they don't rise to the level of hate. > it seems you have a lot of pent-up resentment of your niece- > in-law. <shrug> Actually I just wised up and I don't fall for her stuff. My post was about sending my brother a present and asking for some ideas but I thought the supportive atmosphere here I could share my frustration with her? Don't expect it from you lee but I wonder sometimes why you seem to defend certain behavior? I have reached a level of exasperation with her since she came on the scene yes... resentful... wouldn't waste my time... she isn't worth it. A |
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